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I can prove Adam Lanza did not shoot those kids in that school.

 
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[link to www.examiner.com]

The assault rifle was in the trunk...why did the story change?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


"If the AR-15 remained in the car, as reported by federal and State authorities, it could not have been used as the murder weapon. If the firearm found in the car was not a Bushmaster AR-15 we must consider that this assault rifle, allegedly owned by Lanza’s mother, was never at the crime scene."
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Incorrect. That was reported by the media. The police had not yet said anything about it.

The media was saying things were confirmed before they even had one police announcement.
 Quoting: mikebo2


So, the media reported something for hours for absolutely no reason? Don't you realize they're being scapegoated here?

Why didn't the police contradict them until the chief medical examiner showed that the rifle caused most of the wounds?

And why did Lt. J. Paul Vance say that no weapons were recovered outside of the school when the fact is that a video has surfaced clearly showing a .223 Bushmaster being removed from the trunk of the car by police?

QUESTION: There were reports that there were other guns other than the ones found in the school. Are those reports accurate?

VANCE: No, that’s not accurate. The weaponry that was recovered by our investigators recovered in close proximity of the deceased.


[link to transcripts.cnn.com]

Of course, then they made up a story about a "second rifle" that had, for some reason, not been mentioned up until that point. And remember, that would still contradict Vance's statement that no weapons were found outside of the school.

The fact of the matter is that the .223 Bushmaster that was recovered from the car was the only one that was involved in this case. It was the one that was used to kill the students.

The fact that it was found in the car establishes that Lanza couldn't have committed this crime. He was killed by the second suspect before the massacre began. The second suspect fled the rear of the school and into the woods. He was apprehended and has since disappeared.

Don't know why everyone is so willing to accept an argument that no prosecutor would want to have to make. Which is, of course, the story about a twenty-year-old with documented sensory sensitivity killing 26 people and wounding only two in under three minutes before "committing suicide" despite bringing both a mask and a bullet-proof vest. And a car.
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Same results I'm finding, TxHeat.

The other thing I'm finding is that the man they found in the woods seems to have disappeared off the radar. They also said that Adam was wearing a mask. How the hell did he get in if he was wearing a mask?

There had to be two shooters. 100 rounds from a 9mm in under 3 mins? He had to be one hell of an experienced gunman. I mean, we're talking Grammaton Cleric experienced and that's a fucking movie.
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thats exactly what i was thinking,you cant shoot 20 stationary targets in that short of a period...
to shoot so cold blooded and precise it has to be proffessional
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The gun issues has been beat to death by conspiracists who won't let it go. They seem to pick and choose what INCORRECT info they decide to glom on to.
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Adam Lanza had another gun in his trunk, one that he never took inside. There is live video of the police finding that gun in his trunk the evening of the shooting(it was NOT an AR). The video was from a helicopter, was a tight shot, and showed the gun clearly
 Quoting: JennOfArc


YOU need to get YOUR information straight!!

The Live video you refer to of the police finding the gun [it is definately a shotgun!] in the trunk does indeed appear to be filmed at night...which makes EVEN LESS SENSE!!!

This all went down shortly after 9:30am!!

Now follow closely here...keep up with me...

sure, maybe they did find a shotgun in the trunk of the car later that night...maybe they forgot to check the trunk earlier that morning when they searched it...went back after dark and searched the trunk and found the black shotgun reported found in the car that morning.

Ok, they found a shotgun, in the trunk, later that evening after it got dark. I'm not going to argue with you, I saw the video and it was clearly dark out.

Are you still with me so far? This is going to blow your little "incorrect info" brain Jenn...

Listen to the raw police recordings from that morning.



go to the 5.02 mark and you will hear an officer say "(92) we got one suspect down"

Now, if you listen to the audio from the start and follow this officer, he and other officers have just chased the "camo pants guy" into the woods behind the school and now has him in custody.

*note* at this point "someone" is in communication with these officers but their transmissions are scrambled throughout.

Then, at 5.09, you hear another of these same officers also report "Clear. We have a suspect down."

About 40 seconds later, at 5.55, an out-of-breath officer, having just chased down "camo pants" through the woods and taking him in to custody reports "E5?, Be advised we have multiple weapons, including long rifles AND SHOTGUN."

This is OUTSIDE of the school IN THE WOODS and the weapons reported were found while taking "camo pants guy" into custody.

*note* officers report chasing TWO suspects and refer the "They" when speaking, but only "camo pants" comes out of the woods in handcuffs.

Soooo, it would appear that TWO SHOTGUNS have been reported BY OFFICERS. One reported found that morning immediately after the shootings, out in the woods. And one later that evening, after dark, in the trunk of the car.

Listen to the audio..."multiple weapons...long rifles...AND SHOTGUN"

All verifiable...

Get YOUR story straight before you go jumping other people...

rockon
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Hmmm...your condescending tone and style seems familiar to me....

All verifiable you say? Verifiable because you found a youtube soundbite of police scanner traffic. Funny how YOUR video somehow makes your argument VERIFIED while others posting video are met with "THAT's FAKE video!" "That video was shown on TV as part of the stage show!" "LMAO LOOK AT THE ACTORS", "LMAO, those are reptilian actors on tape!"...and so forth and so on.

I'm no longer going to even try to continue some sort of discourse on the subject. It's clear that there is nothing that can be said, no fact that can be presented, that cannot be met with some sort of retort to debunk it as being shillary. "They're actors", "the videotape is fake","it never happened, nobody is even dead","aliens did it", "it's an illuminati sacrifice to the devil", Tony Hawk is the actor playing Emilie Robertsons dad" etc etc etc.

It's exhausting trying to debate against someone whose brain is so hardwired into finding conspiracy in nothing, and selectively answering questions. Voldemort was behind it! You're just a shill if you think otherwise!!!!

I didn't jump on anyone, and I'm certainly not the only one pointing out that inconsistencies are being woven into elaborate conspiracies.

If you truly think that this thread has proven that Adam Lanza didn't shoot anyone, I won't try to convince you otherwise anymore.

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"A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene"

wait there was a reports of a second man. What?
Where is that second man now.
gone.
 Quoting: Txheat


this shit where they wont' let the public ever see the footage of all these fucking security cameras, that are supposedly there for our safety.

If they are there for us, why can't the public ever view them? Every single security cam seems to some sort of government classified secret.

I say confiscate the guns of all police who refuse to show you the security cam footage.
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Chris Manfredonia is the guy in the woods.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30382607

 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


That Chris Manfredonia story is still suspicious. If he was supposed to be in the school with his daughter, why they heck did they find him in the woods?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25368284


[link to www.youtube.com]

Someone with screen name Sheila alien has done a lot of investigative work on this and produced that video. This Manfredonia guy was mentioned as being caught by by police and he said he was there to help out in classroom of his child. Why he ran into the woods nobody knows. Much speculation in comments.

But if you read thru additional postings in the comments section (there are over 600 of them but it isn't that far down in the listings)you'll see that she plays more of the police calls tape and the cops also caught someone named Christopher A. Rodia who according to Sheila and to search engines (I looked) has an arrest & conviction record for sex with kids and several theft charges. Note: there are 2 different people with that same name in the area.
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btw...my guess is that those 2 guys weren't suppose to get caught...they were allowed to "disappear" and the shotgun was "found" later that evening, after dark.

You see...when the shooters arrived at the school and found the recently installed security system barring their way, forcing them to cause a ruckus shooting their way in, they lost considerable "first responder delay time" [yea you guys missed that one on the map]

Without the additional time, they had to change up weapons and use the AR (remember, it jammed in Portland and they didnt get their body count) instead of the pistols that were planned to be the murder weapons so they could still maintain their egress window and "get the job done this time."

The problem appears to be logistical in nature. The cleaners enlisted to put the weapons where they were suppose to be, apparently didnt get the memo on the change in weapons used, and simply put the AR they'd brought along "just in case" (multiple weapons, including long rifles and shotgun) in the car with the shotgun, when the AR should have gone in the school next to the shooter (dont look. close your eyes, you can't see the bodies while we figure out how to fix this fuckup) and get everybody back on the same page.

Cut!!!
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The gun issues has been beat to death by conspiracists who won't let it go. They seem to pick and choose what INCORRECT info they decide to glom on to.
...
Adam Lanza had another gun in his trunk, one that he never took inside. There is live video of the police finding that gun in his trunk the evening of the shooting(it was NOT an AR). The video was from a helicopter, was a tight shot, and showed the gun clearly
 Quoting: JennOfArc


YOU need to get YOUR information straight!!

The Live video you refer to of the police finding the gun [it is definately a shotgun!] in the trunk does indeed appear to be filmed at night...which makes EVEN LESS SENSE!!!

This all went down shortly after 9:30am!!

Now follow closely here...keep up with me...

sure, maybe they did find a shotgun in the trunk of the car later that night...maybe they forgot to check the trunk earlier that morning when they searched it...went back after dark and searched the trunk and found the black shotgun reported found in the car that morning.

Ok, they found a shotgun, in the trunk, later that evening after it got dark. I'm not going to argue with you, I saw the video and it was clearly dark out.

Are you still with me so far? This is going to blow your little "incorrect info" brain Jenn...

Listen to the raw police recordings from that morning.



go to the 5.02 mark and you will hear an officer say "(92) we got one suspect down"

Now, if you listen to the audio from the start and follow this officer, he and other officers have just chased the "camo pants guy" into the woods behind the school and now has him in custody.

*note* at this point "someone" is in communication with these officers but their transmissions are scrambled throughout.

Then, at 5.09, you hear another of these same officers also report "Clear. We have a suspect down."

About 40 seconds later, at 5.55, an out-of-breath officer, having just chased down "camo pants" through the woods and taking him in to custody reports "E5?, Be advised we have multiple weapons, including long rifles AND SHOTGUN."

This is OUTSIDE of the school IN THE WOODS and the weapons reported were found while taking "camo pants guy" into custody.

*note* officers report chasing TWO suspects and refer the "They" when speaking, but only "camo pants" comes out of the woods in handcuffs.

Soooo, it would appear that TWO SHOTGUNS have been reported BY OFFICERS. One reported found that morning immediately after the shootings, out in the woods. And one later that evening, after dark, in the trunk of the car.

Listen to the audio..."multiple weapons...long rifles...AND SHOTGUN"

All verifiable...

Get YOUR story straight before you go jumping other people...

rockon
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you have it all right.

and dont forget at nearly the same time(as these were the first responders) 6 kids were escaping with a bus driver to the weired guy living nearby.

another kid reported a guy pinned down in the firehouse.

the manfredonia story is bs. a guy with camo behind the school..no way.

then the nurse who hid in the closet with a secretary for 4 hours.

the story about the guns changed when the medical examiner told a long gun was used. its one of the parts in his press conference where he clearly struggles.

the no mention of any other arrests made and the clear denying by lt. vance and no follow up by any official shows its a cover up.
Thread: Sandy Hook -> Cover up is official.

and finally we have clearly actors involved
Thread: Another pair of actors in Sandy hoax exposed. 100% BUSTED! (Page 11)
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Re: I can prove Adam Lanza did not shoot those kids in that school.
Hmmm...your condescending tone and style seems familiar to me...
 Quoting: JennOfArc


Hmm...I thought I was agreeing with you that the shotgun was in fact found in the trunk of the car later that night.

Your statement ignores the fact that it was first reported found at another place and time, by first responders.

Unless, perhaps, you are disputing the validity of the scanner audio from that morning, irregardless of the media provider used. hmmm?
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The gun issues has been beat to death by conspiracists who won't let it go. They seem to pick and choose what INCORRECT info they decide to glom on to.
...
Adam Lanza had another gun in his trunk, one that he never took inside. There is live video of the police finding that gun in his trunk the evening of the shooting(it was NOT an AR). The video was from a helicopter, was a tight shot, and showed the gun clearly
 Quoting: JennOfArc


YOU need to get YOUR information straight!!

The Live video you refer to of the police finding the gun [it is definately a shotgun!] in the trunk does indeed appear to be filmed at night...which makes EVEN LESS SENSE!!!

This all went down shortly after 9:30am!!

Now follow closely here...keep up with me...

sure, maybe they did find a shotgun in the trunk of the car later that night...maybe they forgot to check the trunk earlier that morning when they searched it...went back after dark and searched the trunk and found the black shotgun reported found in the car that morning.

Ok, they found a shotgun, in the trunk, later that evening after it got dark. I'm not going to argue with you, I saw the video and it was clearly dark out.

Are you still with me so far? This is going to blow your little "incorrect info" brain Jenn...

Listen to the raw police recordings from that morning.



go to the 5.02 mark and you will hear an officer say "(92) we got one suspect down"

Now, if you listen to the audio from the start and follow this officer, he and other officers have just chased the "camo pants guy" into the woods behind the school and now has him in custody.

*note* at this point "someone" is in communication with these officers but their transmissions are scrambled throughout.

Then, at 5.09, you hear another of these same officers also report "Clear. We have a suspect down."

About 40 seconds later, at 5.55, an out-of-breath officer, having just chased down "camo pants" through the woods and taking him in to custody reports "E5?, Be advised we have multiple weapons, including long rifles AND SHOTGUN."

This is OUTSIDE of the school IN THE WOODS and the weapons reported were found while taking "camo pants guy" into custody.

*note* officers report chasing TWO suspects and refer the "They" when speaking, but only "camo pants" comes out of the woods in handcuffs.

Soooo, it would appear that TWO SHOTGUNS have been reported BY OFFICERS. One reported found that morning immediately after the shootings, out in the woods. And one later that evening, after dark, in the trunk of the car.

Listen to the audio..."multiple weapons...long rifles...AND SHOTGUN"

All verifiable...

Get YOUR story straight before you go jumping other people...

rockon
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 Quoting: BUSTED! 30514106


4:47

They mention a rifle and shotgun....

Wasn't one found in the trunk of a car after the fact...
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At the live press briefing, I watched the officer giving the press briefing announce that a rifle was found in the back of,what was assumed to be, Lanza's car. So, yes, the police did make that announcement, it is not an incorrect statement.

[link to www.examiner.com]

The assault rifle was in the trunk...why did the story change?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


"If the AR-15 remained in the car, as reported by federal and State authorities, it could not have been used as the murder weapon. If the firearm found in the car was not a Bushmaster AR-15 we must consider that this assault rifle, allegedly owned by Lanza’s mother, was never at the crime scene."
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Incorrect. That was reported by the media. The police had not yet said anything about it.

The media was saying things were confirmed before they even had one police announcement.
 Quoting: mikebo2


[link to www.examiner.com]

The assault rifle was in the trunk...why did the story change?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


"If the AR-15 remained in the car, as reported by federal and State authorities, it could not have been used as the murder weapon. If the firearm found in the car was not a Bushmaster AR-15 we must consider that this assault rifle, allegedly owned by Lanza’s mother, was never at the crime scene."
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Incorrect. That was reported by the media. The police had not yet said anything about it.

The media was saying things were confirmed before they even had one police announcement.
 Quoting: mikebo2
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I have a good question, Why would a person who is in a gun free zone where a bulletproof vest? Especially if he was going to kill himself later??? Why would he have worn a mask? Crimes like this usually are a cry for attention, so why would he have his face covered? There are no mention of how many clips were found or what capacity of the clips that would of had to be there. When i searched for Adam Lanza's real address nothing came up. Why does the medical examiner say uhh so many times? He actually laughs when trying to recall memories of the prior day when the shooting took place. It is obvious this is a false flag from yours truly to advance Agenda 21.

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