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Another Sandy Hook Inconsistency - Caught on local talk radio

 
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The key issue here is that Adam Lanza is not guilty.

It is a damn shame that there will be no trial, because I'd be fascinated in seeing how a prosecutor would argue that a twenty-year old with a documented sensory disorder could kill 20 children and 6 adults, wounding only two, in under three minutes.

That kind of kill/wound ratio implies professional skill, especially in the small time frame that authorities tell us it all took place in. Then again, there's the other version of events where the police take their sweet time to arrive. That, itself, requires an explanation. As with everything in the case, it is all contradictory and none of it makes any sense.

For hours, it was reported that the rifle had been left in the car and that only the handguns were found with Lanza.

How could this be a "mistake"? Police took hours to notice that there was a third much longer and larger weapon near Lanza? This beggars belief.

They only changed the story and said that the rifle was found near him when the chief medical examiner revealed that the wounds were caused by rifle fire.

Then the spokesman for the Connecticut State Police announced on CNN that no weapons had been found outside of the school. Then a video surfaced confirming the earlier version and showing them REMOVING THE RIFLE FROM THE CAR.

Adam Lanza would have had no opportunity to deposit the rifle in the trunk of the car after the massacre. This contradiction is where the entire official narrative falls apart.

He couldn't have done it, but the second suspect - the "man in the woods" - he could have. He was, in fact, in that area shortly before fleeing into the forest.

He's the one who placed the rifle in the car. He's the only one who could have. From this, we can conclude that it was he who perpetrated the massacre. From what we've heard, no one remembers two assailants simultaneously firing inside the school. There was one assailant and one patsy.

Lanza wanted to "join the Marines" or "some other branch of the military." This was reported today. He was quiet, and there were no public records for him since 2009. His sketchy past was marked with the Asperger's diagnosis, this making him the ideal patsy. That his mother was a gun enthusiast who owned weapons made things that much better.

He most likely made contact with someone on the computer who ensured him that his dreams could be made to come true. This person arranged to meet him, being that his mother was out of town. They developed a 'friendship' with him and gained his trust. Likely, they were someone who knew exactly how to talk to everyone, and were well-educated in psychology.

On the morning of December 14th, Nancy Lanza returned from her trip. She met her son and his new "friend" - something that was not supposed to happen. She was supposed to remember her son as he was: a strange, eccentric "loner".

This problem was quickly rectified. Lanza told his mother that this was some kind of a recruiter, and that his military aspirations were finally going to be fulfilled. His "friend" told him that they were to drive to Sandy Hook Elementary. Perhaps he was told that he was going to participate in a drill. Perhaps he was told that they were going to speak to children about the military, or engage in "toys for tots" activity. Lanza wouldn't have questioned it. He finally had direction in his life, and it was the direction he had dreamed of.

Before they left, the "recruiter" tells him that he has to go over something with his mother. Lanza, of course, has no objections. I think you can guess what happened next. The "recruiter" murdered Nancy, and this was necessary because her unexpected return made her a witness to the "recruiter". It was further beneficial to the perpetrators because it connected Lanza directly to the massacre, and laid groundwork for some fraudulent "motive".

While inside his home, he also destroyed the hard drive of Lanza's computer. This was also necessary, as it contained evidence of his contact with the young man.

Lanza had been told to wear black clothing and military fatigues. He was likely told that this was what "recruits" had to wear. The "recruiter" wore a dark jacket and camo pants. He knew that once he killed Lanza, he could masquerade as him. Since he was wearing a mask, the eyewitnesses would have to rely entirely on the clothing of the perpetrator.

The doors to Sandy Hook Elementary School are locked during the day. To enter, one must be "buzzed" in by the principal after appearing before the surveillance system. Two men with black clothing and military fatigues weren't going to be allowed an easy entrance.

Either the "recruiter" shot their way through, as is now reported, or they were "buzzed" in under false pretenses, as earlier reports suggest. Perhaps the "recruiter" had set up an "event" of some sort with the principal beforehand. Either way, the principal, who "buzzed" them in, was a key witness to the existence of the "recruiter". Like Nancy Lanza, he had to be eliminated.

Soon after they entered the building, a confused, afraid Adam was murdered by the "recruiter". His mother's pistols, which had been taken by the "recruiter", were planted on his person.

The masked "recruiter" then carried out the mass murder of the students and killed the principal "execution-style," as we are now told. He had to die because of what he saw on the school's surveillance system.

After carrying out the murders, the "recruiter" escaped the rear of the school and was reported to be outside after depositing the rifle into the trunk of Lanza's car. He was hoping to blend in with others who were escaping, though his clothes gave him away and officers apprehended him.

At this point, the "recruiter" fled into the woods. He didn't know what to do, and was acting entirely on instinct. How had everything gone so wildly wrong?

He was arrested and laid out on the ground. His hands were cuffed and he was led out of the woods, before the parents. He was scared, and becoming paranoid. What if he had been manipulated? What if his handlers were planning to "patsy" him, as well? He turned to the parents and looked them in the eyes before saying: "I didn't do it."

It was all he could think to do before he was taken into a police car and questioned. Who knows what he told them? Who knows what happened to them? Perhaps an order came from federal officials to the Connecticut State Police, or perhaps a "mole" within the police pulled some strings.

We can't really speculate from this point on. However, what is undeniable is that justice hasn't been served. It has been callously violated. The truth remains untold.
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sometimes small children who experience trauma will focus on things that dont really seem to fit the trauma, ie..a terrible car accident that kills Mum and Dad and the rest of the family , may not be the focus of the moment rather that the scratch on the knee is the main focus ...for a while, it is a defence mechanism.

Children involved in this terrible event may be more worried about xmas than dead siblings or class mates etc.
That does change, but in the heat of the moment, that may be what we are looking at.

Also sometimes when adults go through trauma, they want to laugh or have sex...cant be helped...its trauma !
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The key issue here is that Adam Lanza is not guilty.

It is a damn shame that there will be no trial, because I'd be fascinated in seeing how a prosecutor would argue that a twenty-year old with a documented sensory disorder could kill 20 children and 6 adults, wounding only two, in under three minutes.

That kind of kill/wound ratio implies professional skill, especially in the small time frame that authorities tell us it all took place in. Then again, there's the other version of events where the police take their sweet time to arrive. That, itself, requires an explanation. As with everything in the case, it is all contradictory and none of it makes any sense.

For hours, it was reported that the rifle had been left in the car and that only the handguns were found with Lanza.

How could this be a "mistake"? Police took hours to notice that there was a third much longer and larger weapon near Lanza? This beggars belief.

They only changed the story and said that the rifle was found near him when the chief medical examiner revealed that the wounds were caused by rifle fire.

Then the spokesman for the Connecticut State Police announced on CNN that no weapons had been found outside of the school. Then a video surfaced confirming the earlier version and showing them REMOVING THE RIFLE FROM THE CAR.

Adam Lanza would have had no opportunity to deposit the rifle in the trunk of the car after the massacre. This contradiction is where the entire official narrative falls apart.

He couldn't have done it, but the second suspect - the "man in the woods" - he could have. He was, in fact, in that area shortly before fleeing into the forest.

He's the one who placed the rifle in the car. He's the only one who could have. From this, we can conclude that it was he who perpetrated the massacre. From what we've heard, no one remembers two assailants simultaneously firing inside the school. There was one assailant and one patsy.

Lanza wanted to "join the Marines" or "some other branch of the military." This was reported today. He was quiet, and there were no public records for him since 2009. His sketchy past was marked with the Asperger's diagnosis, this making him the ideal patsy. That his mother was a gun enthusiast who owned weapons made things that much better.

He most likely made contact with someone on the computer who ensured him that his dreams could be made to come true. This person arranged to meet him, being that his mother was out of town. They developed a 'friendship' with him and gained his trust. Likely, they were someone who knew exactly how to talk to everyone, and were well-educated in psychology.

On the morning of December 14th, Nancy Lanza returned from her trip. She met her son and his new "friend" - something that was not supposed to happen. She was supposed to remember her son as he was: a strange, eccentric "loner".

This problem was quickly rectified. Lanza told his mother that this was some kind of a recruiter, and that his military aspirations were finally going to be fulfilled. His "friend" told him that they were to drive to Sandy Hook Elementary. Perhaps he was told that he was going to participate in a drill. Perhaps he was told that they were going to speak to children about the military, or engage in "toys for tots" activity. Lanza wouldn't have questioned it. He finally had direction in his life, and it was the direction he had dreamed of.

Before they left, the "recruiter" tells him that he has to go over something with his mother. Lanza, of course, has no objections. I think you can guess what happened next. The "recruiter" murdered Nancy, and this was necessary because her unexpected return made her a witness to the "recruiter". It was further beneficial to the perpetrators because it connected Lanza directly to the massacre, and laid groundwork for some fraudulent "motive".

While inside his home, he also destroyed the hard drive of Lanza's computer. This was also necessary, as it contained evidence of his contact with the young man.

Lanza had been told to wear black clothing and military fatigues. He was likely told that this was what "recruits" had to wear. The "recruiter" wore a dark jacket and camo pants. He knew that once he killed Lanza, he could masquerade as him. Since he was wearing a mask, the eyewitnesses would have to rely entirely on the clothing of the perpetrator.

The doors to Sandy Hook Elementary School are locked during the day. To enter, one must be "buzzed" in by the principal after appearing before the surveillance system. Two men with black clothing and military fatigues weren't going to be allowed an easy entrance.

Either the "recruiter" shot their way through, as is now reported, or they were "buzzed" in under false pretenses, as earlier reports suggest. Perhaps the "recruiter" had set up an "event" of some sort with the principal beforehand. Either way, the principal, who "buzzed" them in, was a key witness to the existence of the "recruiter". Like Nancy Lanza, he had to be eliminated.

Soon after they entered the building, a confused, afraid Adam was murdered by the "recruiter". His mother's pistols, which had been taken by the "recruiter", were planted on his person.

The masked "recruiter" then carried out the mass murder of the students and killed the principal "execution-style," as we are now told. He had to die because of what he saw on the school's surveillance system.

After carrying out the murders, the "recruiter" escaped the rear of the school and was reported to be outside after depositing the rifle into the trunk of Lanza's car. He was hoping to blend in with others who were escaping, though his clothes gave him away and officers apprehended him.

At this point, the "recruiter" fled into the woods. He didn't know what to do, and was acting entirely on instinct. How had everything gone so wildly wrong?

He was arrested and laid out on the ground. His hands were cuffed and he was led out of the woods, before the parents. He was scared, and becoming paranoid. What if he had been manipulated? What if his handlers were planning to "patsy" him, as well? He turned to the parents and looked them in the eyes before saying: "I didn't do it."

It was all he could think to do before he was taken into a police car and questioned. Who knows what he told them? Who knows what happened to them? Perhaps an order came from federal officials to the Connecticut State Police, or perhaps a "mole" within the police pulled some strings.

We can't really speculate from this point on. However, what is undeniable is that justice hasn't been served. It has been callously violated. The truth remains untold.
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You present an interesting scenario. Your main point is correct: the official story is a mess.
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It was another teacher who had her students locked in a storage room and wouldn't open the door until the policeman slid his badge under the door.
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Hmmmm...neat trick. I predict the next school shooter will bring a badge and some candy.
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The loud gunfire conversation is going nowhere because^^this guy doesn't get the point. It's not that their ears hurt, it's that they wouldn't have been able to hear the alleged conversation between the shooter and Soto. Do you understand yet???
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


I fully understand. I'm just not some idiot that believes you. You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

It's amazing to me that so many fucknuts, like you, think they are experts on everything. What are your qualifications to make the claims you're making? Are you a medical expert? And ear doctor? What qualifies YOU, to know the state of the victims physical state, hearing capabilities, or anything else?

Tell us. Give us a reason to take what you say, as anything but speculation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4284531


Here's the point I brought up originally in this thread: there are conflicting claims as to what happened with the seven surviving kids from Ms. Soto's class. were they hiding in the closet till police arrived, as the media reported; or did they flee the classroom to safety as others have said? Do you know?
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O



No, I don't know.

But I am not interested in hearsay, which I caught you on. When I see a poster here, that interjects hearsay in their arguments...like you did, I am suspect. I'm a truther, through and through. If you're genuine, and are tryi g to get to the bottom of this, then do so with facts and not your uneducated opinions.

Shit like this is detrimental to the truth.

I agree, something is foul with this incident. But the amount of speculation and factless accusations that are flying around here is sickening.

I do apologize for being harsh, but if we are serious about truth, then we should be compiling and weighing facts.

No?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4284531


Which one of you ignorant fuck nuts were there? If one of you were there, did you see a dead kid? A psychotropic, medicated 20 year old supposedly took out 26 people with a rifle that was in his trunk, he drove there and got through security where he would have had to be "buzzed" in with or with out a bulge....

I saw a laughing, smiling "Robbie Parker" give a statement that sounded like an Obama speech and a Medical examiner that sounded like a drugged up flunky with absolutely no spine to answer direct questions and had the demeanor of a Domino's pizza delivery professional!!!!!

Jesus Titty Fucking Christ you people are stupid!!!!

This thing is a fucking hoax from start to goddamned finish.

Period.


granny Wake the fuck up!!!!
I can explain shit to you all day but, I can't understand it for ya!!!!
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I fully understand. I'm just not some idiot that believes you. You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

It's amazing to me that so many fucknuts, like you, think they are experts on everything. What are your qualifications to make the claims you're making? Are you a medical expert? And ear doctor? What qualifies YOU, to know the state of the victims physical state, hearing capabilities, or anything else?

Tell us. Give us a reason to take what you say, as anything but speculation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4284531


Here's the point I brought up originally in this thread: there are conflicting claims as to what happened with the seven surviving kids from Ms. Soto's class. were they hiding in the closet till police arrived, as the media reported; or did they flee the classroom to safety as others have said? Do you know?
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O



No, I don't know.

But I am not interested in hearsay, which I caught you on. When I see a poster here, that interjects hearsay in their arguments...like you did, I am suspect. I'm a truther, through and through. If you're genuine, and are tryi g to get to the bottom of this, then do so with facts and not your uneducated opinions.

Shit like this is detrimental to the truth.

I agree, something is foul with this incident. But the amount of speculation and factless accusations that are flying around here is sickening.

I do apologize for being harsh, but if we are serious about truth, then we should be compiling and weighing facts.

No?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4284531


Which one of you ignorant fuck nuts were there? If one of you were there, did you see a dead kid? A psychotropic, medicated 20 year old supposedly took out 26 people with a rifle that was in his trunk, he drove there and got through security where he would have had to be "buzzed" in with or with out a bulge....

I saw a laughing, smiling "Robbie Parker" give a statement that sounded like an Obama speech and a Medical examiner that sounded like a drugged up flunky with absolutely no spine to answer direct questions and had the demeanor of a Domino's pizza delivery professional!!!!!

Jesus Titty Fucking Christ you people are stupid!!!!

This thing is a fucking hoax from start to goddamned finish.

Period.


granny Wake the fuck up!!!!
 Quoting: Leviticus


Yes it's either a hoax or a false flag. It didn't go down the way we were told.
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The key issue here is that Adam Lanza is not guilty.

It is a damn shame that there will be no trial, because I'd be fascinated in seeing how a prosecutor would argue that a twenty-year old with a documented sensory disorder could kill 20 children and 6 adults, wounding only two, in under three minutes.

That kind of kill/wound ratio implies professional skill, especially in the small time frame that authorities tell us it all took place in. Then again, there's the other version of events where the police take their sweet time to arrive. That, itself, requires an explanation. As with everything in the case, it is all contradictory and none of it makes any sense.

For hours, it was reported that the rifle had been left in the car and that only the handguns were found with Lanza.

How could this be a "mistake"? Police took hours to notice that there was a third much longer and larger weapon near Lanza? This beggars belief.

They only changed the story and said that the rifle was found near him when the chief medical examiner revealed that the wounds were caused by rifle fire.

Then the spokesman for the Connecticut State Police announced on CNN that no weapons had been found outside of the school. Then a video surfaced confirming the earlier version and showing them REMOVING THE RIFLE FROM THE CAR.

Adam Lanza would have had no opportunity to deposit the rifle in the trunk of the car after the massacre. This contradiction is where the entire official narrative falls apart.

He couldn't have done it, but the second suspect - the "man in the woods" - he could have. He was, in fact, in that area shortly before fleeing into the forest.

He's the one who placed the rifle in the car. He's the only one who could have. From this, we can conclude that it was he who perpetrated the massacre. From what we've heard, no one remembers two assailants simultaneously firing inside the school. There was one assailant and one patsy.

Lanza wanted to "join the Marines" or "some other branch of the military." This was reported today. He was quiet, and there were no public records for him since 2009. His sketchy past was marked with the Asperger's diagnosis, this making him the ideal patsy. That his mother was a gun enthusiast who owned weapons made things that much better.

He most likely made contact with someone on the computer who ensured him that his dreams could be made to come true. This person arranged to meet him, being that his mother was out of town. They developed a 'friendship' with him and gained his trust. Likely, they were someone who knew exactly how to talk to everyone, and were well-educated in psychology.

On the morning of December 14th, Nancy Lanza returned from her trip. She met her son and his new "friend" - something that was not supposed to happen. She was supposed to remember her son as he was: a strange, eccentric "loner".

This problem was quickly rectified. Lanza told his mother that this was some kind of a recruiter, and that his military aspirations were finally going to be fulfilled. His "friend" told him that they were to drive to Sandy Hook Elementary. Perhaps he was told that he was going to participate in a drill. Perhaps he was told that they were going to speak to children about the military, or engage in "toys for tots" activity. Lanza wouldn't have questioned it. He finally had direction in his life, and it was the direction he had dreamed of.

Before they left, the "recruiter" tells him that he has to go over something with his mother. Lanza, of course, has no objections. I think you can guess what happened next. The "recruiter" murdered Nancy, and this was necessary because her unexpected return made her a witness to the "recruiter". It was further beneficial to the perpetrators because it connected Lanza directly to the massacre, and laid groundwork for some fraudulent "motive".

While inside his home, he also destroyed the hard drive of Lanza's computer. This was also necessary, as it contained evidence of his contact with the young man.

Lanza had been told to wear black clothing and military fatigues. He was likely told that this was what "recruits" had to wear. The "recruiter" wore a dark jacket and camo pants. He knew that once he killed Lanza, he could masquerade as him. Since he was wearing a mask, the eyewitnesses would have to rely entirely on the clothing of the perpetrator.

The doors to Sandy Hook Elementary School are locked during the day. To enter, one must be "buzzed" in by the principal after appearing before the surveillance system. Two men with black clothing and military fatigues weren't going to be allowed an easy entrance.

Either the "recruiter" shot their way through, as is now reported, or they were "buzzed" in under false pretenses, as earlier reports suggest. Perhaps the "recruiter" had set up an "event" of some sort with the principal beforehand. Either way, the principal, who "buzzed" them in, was a key witness to the existence of the "recruiter". Like Nancy Lanza, he had to be eliminated.

Soon after they entered the building, a confused, afraid Adam was murdered by the "recruiter". His mother's pistols, which had been taken by the "recruiter", were planted on his person.

The masked "recruiter" then carried out the mass murder of the students and killed the principal "execution-style," as we are now told. He had to die because of what he saw on the school's surveillance system.

After carrying out the murders, the "recruiter" escaped the rear of the school and was reported to be outside after depositing the rifle into the trunk of Lanza's car. He was hoping to blend in with others who were escaping, though his clothes gave him away and officers apprehended him.

At this point, the "recruiter" fled into the woods. He didn't know what to do, and was acting entirely on instinct. How had everything gone so wildly wrong?

He was arrested and laid out on the ground. His hands were cuffed and he was led out of the woods, before the parents. He was scared, and becoming paranoid. What if he had been manipulated? What if his handlers were planning to "patsy" him, as well? He turned to the parents and looked them in the eyes before saying: "I didn't do it."

It was all he could think to do before he was taken into a police car and questioned. Who knows what he told them? Who knows what happened to them? Perhaps an order came from federal officials to the Connecticut State Police, or perhaps a "mole" within the police pulled some strings.

We can't really speculate from this point on. However, what is undeniable is that justice hasn't been served. It has been callously violated. The truth remains untold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


You present an interesting scenario. Your main point is correct: the official story is a mess.
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


For every contradiction, there must be an explanation. I started with the fact that the rifle had been left in the car, and tried to work it out from there.
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There was a short clip of the cops removing the weapon from the trunk but it looked like a shotgun. But for all we know they could have already removed other weapons previously from the trunk (put there by other shooters?) that wasn't on the vid.

Also I'm wondering if any weapons were found in woods or elsewhere that we aren't being told about that would indicate more than one shooter.

Several news accounts have said that over 300 casings were found. I wonder if they'll do the forensics to see if all were fired from the same bushmaster?

We'll probably never know the truth on this whole thing. The stories change every day. It makes me sick to think that these children may never get justice for their murders. So sad.
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someone dressed as a cop shot the kids only way you could earn the trust and get so many victims together in one spot
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The whole thing stinks to high heaven!
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can you get your witty bitty mind around the fact that both things happened OP?

Get off the conspiracy BS you freak.
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I fully understand. I'm just not some idiot that believes you. You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

It's amazing to me that so many fucknuts, like you, think they are experts on everything. What are your qualifications to make the claims you're making? Are you a medical expert? And ear doctor? What qualifies YOU, to know the state of the victims physical state, hearing capabilities, or anything else?

Tell us. Give us a reason to take what you say, as anything but speculation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4284531


Here's the point I brought up originally in this thread: there are conflicting claims as to what happened with the seven surviving kids from Ms. Soto's class. were they hiding in the closet till police arrived, as the media reported; or did they flee the classroom to safety as others have said? Do you know?
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O



No, I don't know.

But I am not interested in hearsay, which I caught you on. When I see a poster here, that interjects hearsay in their arguments...like you did, I am suspect. I'm a truther, through and through. If you're genuine, and are tryi g to get to the bottom of this, then do so with facts and not your uneducated opinions.

Shit like this is detrimental to the truth.

I agree, something is foul with this incident. But the amount of speculation and factless accusations that are flying around here is sickening.

I do apologize for being harsh, but if we are serious about truth, then we should be compiling and weighing facts.

No?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4284531


Which one of you ignorant fuck nuts were there? If one of you were there, did you see a dead kid? A psychotropic, medicated 20 year old supposedly took out 26 people with a rifle that was in his trunk, he drove there and got through security where he would have had to be "buzzed" in with or with out a bulge....

I saw a laughing, smiling "Robbie Parker" give a statement that sounded like an Obama speech and a Medical examiner that sounded like a drugged up flunky with absolutely no spine to answer direct questions and had the demeanor of a Domino's pizza delivery professional!!!!!

Jesus Titty Fucking Christ you people are stupid!!!!

This thing is a fucking hoax from start to goddamned finish.

Period.


granny Wake the fuck up!!!!
 Quoting: Leviticus


yeah, we ALWAYS listen to people who write "Jesus Titty Fucking Christ." Do you know you have an afterlife and that you will be judged for both your written and spoken words? Remember that on your deathbed.
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yeah. this shit makes no sense

how the fuck did they manage to clean up the school up so quickly?

saw the video of the medical officer - i couldnt believe it

this is WTF from top to bottom



shills, you KNOW, not all of us are hardcore conspiracy 'nuts' that society should fear, as one of you insinuated, haha. nooo, youre not using shilling 101? really?


youre pathetic, and youre useless at shilling
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I live in Connecticut, and was listening to the Jim Vicevich show today on WTIC Hartford. The last caller of the day was a guy named Steve, who claimed his granddaughter was a first grade student in Ms. Soto's class when the shooting occured. According to the caller, his granddaughter witnessed the murder of Soto and several classmates, then escaped with the other unharmed children by running out of the room when the shooter reloaded. He was specific about recounting these details, though the point of his call was to push for more mental profiling, or "nut control" as he termed it.

Now if his story is legit, it absolutely conflicts with the official narrative, which says that the surviving students from Ms. Soto's class stayed hidden in the closet (or bathroom?) until found by the police. See the Hartford Courant link below:
[link to www.courant.com]

So, either the caller is a crackpot, and he didn't really sound like one, or the official story is, shall we say, flawed. Incidently, the host failed to acknowledge the inconsistency.
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You do know about hearsay and the telephone game, right?
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can you get your witty bitty mind around the fact that both things happened OP?

Get off the conspiracy BS you freak.
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How could both things happen? How could the seven survivors from Ms. soto's class be both in the closet hiding, and escaping out the classroom? It can't be both, so which is it?
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I live in Connecticut, and was listening to the Jim Vicevich show today on WTIC Hartford. The last caller of the day was a guy named Steve, who claimed his granddaughter was a first grade student in Ms. Soto's class when the shooting occured. According to the caller, his granddaughter witnessed the murder of Soto and several classmates, then escaped with the other unharmed children by running out of the room when the shooter reloaded. He was specific about recounting these details, though the point of his call was to push for more mental profiling, or "nut control" as he termed it.

Now if his story is legit, it absolutely conflicts with the official narrative, which says that the surviving students from Ms. Soto's class stayed hidden in the closet (or bathroom?) until found by the police. See the Hartford Courant link below:
[link to www.courant.com]

So, either the caller is a crackpot, and he didn't really sound like one, or the official story is, shall we say, flawed. Incidently, the host failed to acknowledge the inconsistency.
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You do know about hearsay and the telephone game, right?
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The whole case is heresay. Who actually saw anything? That's my point. The media and the public lap up whatever nonsense comes from "official sources" with a spoon. It's getting old.

What's the telephone game? Are you saying the radio caller was a phony? If so, that's kinda telling in itself. Similar to the shills that pose as real people in here.tounge
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can you get your witty bitty mind around the fact that both things happened OP?

Get off the conspiracy BS you freak.
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How could both things happen? How could the seven survivors from Ms. soto's class be both in the closet hiding, and escaping out the classroom? It can't be both, so which is it?
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


The numbers dont add up!!!

As in the video posted 2 above it cant be at least if you consider the officials story.

Adam Lanza couldnt do it anyway. No kids escaped. And if then they couldnt escape the kilelrs who killed adam lanza as shown here:
Thread: End the life of Adam! Police scanner catches death sentence. Sandy hook drill. PIN!!!
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Some of you are really stupid with your overreaching - your mistake is to ASSUME that what goes for you, goes for everyone else.

Not all classes are the same size, this varies by school district and even by state! My daughter's 1st grade class was about 15 students and my son's Pre-K class right now is 5 little boys only. They both had both a teacher and a teacher's aide or 2.

Also, all of our schools have 1-2 armed police officers on the premises; this was true even in my high school in the mid to late 90s. I don't live in the hard streets of Houston but in the safe and more affluent suburbs.

Lastly, it doesn't matter what the fuck happened or who's behind it. I am as full of questions as anyone else but in the end,nothing changes the fact that all those families are mourning the loss of their young children. All those mothers will never feel their babies arms wrap around their necks. They'll never hear those tiny voices say "I love you mommy" and those little beds will forever remain empty. THAT is the sad bottom line and what we should be examining and allowing it to inspire us to bring upon change, starting with our own children.
Occam's Razor, morans!
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Some of you are really stupid with your overreaching - your mistake is to ASSUME that what goes for you, goes for everyone else.

Not all classes are the same size, this varies by school district and even by state! My daughter's 1st grade class was about 15 students and my son's Pre-K class right now is 5 little boys only. They both had both a teacher and a teacher's aide or 2.

Also, all of our schools have 1-2 armed police officers on the premises; this was true even in my high school in the mid to late 90s. I don't live in the hard streets of Houston but in the safe and more affluent suburbs.

Lastly, it doesn't matter what the fuck happened or who's behind it. I am as full of questions as anyone else but in the end,nothing changes the fact that all those families are mourning the loss of their young children. All those mothers will never feel their babies arms wrap around their necks. They'll never hear those tiny voices say "I love you mommy" and those little beds will forever remain empty. THAT is the sad bottom line and what we should be examining and allowing it to inspire us to bring upon change, starting with our own children.
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I hope that when you say people are stupidly overreaching, you are not referring to the specific, legitimate, and relevant point I brought up in this post. Go back to the top, if necessary, to review the points I made.

It matters a great deal to me what happened and who or what is really behind this. This is my community.
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someone dressed as a cop shot the kids only way you could earn the trust and get so many victims together in one spot
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Interesting point.
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Re: Another Sandy Hook Inconsistency - Caught on local talk radio
I live in Connecticut, and was listening to the Jim Vicevich show today on WTIC Hartford. The last caller of the day was a guy named Steve, who claimed his granddaughter was a first grade student in Ms. Soto's class when the shooting occured. According to the caller, his granddaughter witnessed the murder of Soto and several classmates, then escaped with the other unharmed children by running out of the room when the shooter reloaded. He was specific about recounting these details, though the point of his call was to push for more mental profiling, or "nut control" as he termed it.

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LINK?

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Re: Another Sandy Hook Inconsistency - Caught on local talk radio
I live in Connecticut, and was listening to the Jim Vicevich show today on WTIC Hartford. The last caller of the day was a guy named Steve, who claimed his granddaughter was a first grade student in Ms. Soto's class when the shooting occured. According to the caller, his granddaughter witnessed the murder of Soto and several classmates, then escaped with the other unharmed children by running out of the room when the shooter reloaded. He was specific about recounting these details, though the point of his call was to push for more mental profiling, or "nut control" as he termed it.

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LINK?

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Here's the link, but, surprise! Nothing form Thursday's show, the show in question.
[link to connecticut.cbslocal.com]

See my updated thread:
Thread: UPDATE: Sandy Hook Inconsistencies Abound - Survivors from Ms. Soto's class - Censored by WTIC radio

I'm trying to put all my info there now. I'm trying to keep up with as many Sandy Hook threads as I can, while focusing on this particular aspect of it: the fate of the surviving children from Soto's class.
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Maybe part of the confusion is because the witnesses are majority young children.
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This particular point I'm making has nothing to do with the testimony of young children. Either the survivors from Ms. Soto's class were found in the closet, as a law enforcement source told the press; or, they ran out of the school and ended up at the stuffed animal guy's house. Has it been reported if the kids at the stuffed animal guy's house were from Ms. Soto's class? If so, why was it reported earlier that the cop found them hiding in the closet? It is not a minor detail in an event as serious as this.
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There could be 3 groups, 1 that ran out and got shot, one group that stayed until the cops found them, and one in between that ran out after the gunman had left the room and ran to the old man's house. That would make up a more regular size class.
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Maybe part of the confusion is because the witnesses are majority young children.
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This particular point I'm making has nothing to do with the testimony of young children. Either the survivors from Ms. Soto's class were found in the closet, as a law enforcement source told the press; or, they ran out of the school and ended up at the stuffed animal guy's house. Has it been reported if the kids at the stuffed animal guy's house were from Ms. Soto's class? If so, why was it reported earlier that the cop found them hiding in the closet? It is not a minor detail in an event as serious as this.
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There could be 3 groups, 1 that ran out and got shot, one group that stayed until the cops found them, and one in between that ran out after the gunman had left the room and ran to the old man's house. That would make up a more regular size class.
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If that's the case, that still doesn't match the Courant story. Note how that article mentions the seven "remaining" children were found in the closet by the cop after the shooting. So according to that Courant story, there weren't three groups.
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Lanza next arrived at teacher Victoria Soto's classroom. Soto is believed to have hidden her 6- and 7-year old students in a classroom closet. When Lanza demanded to know where the children were, Soto tried to divert him to the other end of the school by saying that her students were in the auditorium.

But six of Soto's students tried to flee. Lanza shot them, Soto and another teacher who was in the room. Later, in their search for survivors, police found the remaining seven of Soto's students still hiding in the closet. They told the police what had happened.

[link to www.courant.com]
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Yes you are citing the Courant article, which hasn't been corrected. This guy on the radio today sounded genuine, and said his granddaughter was one of the survivors from Ms. Soto's class, which, according to the official story, were all found in the closet by the cops. but he's saying she ran out. Get it? The radio call-in guy's story doesn't match the official story. So was he a fraud? As I say, he didn't sound like it. I don't know if the broadcast can be found online now, but it took place today on WTIC at 11:55AM or so.
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Two Boys and four girls from Ms Soto's class saw her killed and escaped. They were later found by an older gentleman who had been out to breakfast and came home to find them sitting in a semicircle on his front lawn.

When he asked what they were doing there (he had not heard about the event) they told him they could not go back to school because they had not teacher. They could not go back to school because the teacher was dead.
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Now this is getting strange because I just read another report somewhere that these kids were taken to the fire station, but the older man said (in another report) that they stayed at his house until the parents came and got them
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someone dressed as a cop shot the kids only way you could earn the trust and get so many victims together in one spot
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or a nun?
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Re: Another Sandy Hook Inconsistency - Caught on local talk radio
I live in Connecticut, and was listening to the Jim Vicevich show today on WTIC Hartford. The last caller of the day was a guy named Steve, who claimed his granddaughter was a first grade student in Ms. Soto's class when the shooting occured. According to the caller, his granddaughter witnessed the murder of Soto and several classmates, then escaped with the other unharmed children by running out of the room when the shooter reloaded. He was specific about recounting these details, though the point of his call was to push for more mental profiling, or "nut control" as he termed it.

Now if his story is legit, it absolutely conflicts with the official narrative, which says that the surviving students from Ms. Soto's class stayed hidden in the closet (or bathroom?) until found by the police. See the Hartford Courant link below:
[link to www.courant.com]

So, either the caller is a crackpot, and he didn't really sound like one, or the official story is, shall we say, flawed. Incidently, the host failed to acknowledge the inconsistency.
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


Wonder how much the caller got paid to make up that story? They really must be making the dough in CT hand-over-fist!

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It seems like there is two official stories here, unless the original account of the cop finding the kids in the closet has been corrected. "Crazy Uncle Gene" has been in the media relentlessley telling his story of 6 kids from Ms. Soto's class that escaped telling him "our teacher is dead".
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Re: Another Sandy Hook Inconsistency - Caught on local talk radio
Maybe part of the confusion is because the witnesses are majority young children.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29412599


This particular point I'm making has nothing to do with the testimony of young children. Either the survivors from Ms. Soto's class were found in the closet, as a law enforcement source told the press; or, they ran out of the school and ended up at the stuffed animal guy's house. Has it been reported if the kids at the stuffed animal guy's house were from Ms. Soto's class? If so, why was it reported earlier that the cop found them hiding in the closet? It is not a minor detail in an event as serious as this.
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


There could be 3 groups, 1 that ran out and got shot, one group that stayed until the cops found them, and one in between that ran out after the gunman had left the room and ran to the old man's house. That would make up a more regular size class.
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Old Rosen was lying and making up stuff so he could be on teevee.

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