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Another Sandy Hook Inconsistency - Caught on local talk radio

 
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Maybe th last thing they were worried about was their fucking ears.

Good lord man....
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Obviously you haven't been around much gunfire.
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Wtf are you talking about fool?

I'm a small arms expert.

Expert pistol and rifle...trained by the us government.

I've even had a ciws go off 20 yards away from me while wearing no ear protection. Talk about loud...
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I've been inside a classrom sized room where just one gunshot was fired--a .38--my ears hurt/rang for minutes--if dozens of rifle shots were fired, with hard block walls and wood doors and no carpeting, the sound bouncing--those kids should have been half-deaf and holding their hurting ears--I didn't see any of that in the reunited with parents pics, at all
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Maybe th last thing they were worried about was their fucking ears.

Good lord man....
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Forest....trees.
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Okay, your 6 years old...you just witnessed most of your classmates mowed down by a crazy fuck. He shot your little friends 3-11 times each, turning them into bloody fucking hamburger.

Now, by a fucking miracle, you are reunited with your parents. In complete and total shock...mentally fucked for the rest of your life...

...but your ears hurt?

Forest for the trees nothing.

You idiot.
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Go ahead asshole--shoot your puny 9mm in the room you are sitting in now, with absorbent drapes rugs furniture--and tell me how irrelevant the ear pain and disorientation from being in a closed room with dozens of rifle shots is.
Some of those tiny ears should have been bleeding...
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Maybe th last thing they were worried about was their fucking ears.

Good lord man....
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Forest....trees.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


Okay, your 6 years old...you just witnessed most of your classmates mowed down by a crazy fuck. He shot your little friends 3-11 times each, turning them into bloody fucking hamburger.

Now, by a fucking miracle, you are reunited with your parents. In complete and total shock...mentally fucked for the rest of your life...

...but your ears hurt?

Forest for the trees nothing.

You idiot.
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Go ahead asshole--shoot your puny 9mm in the room you are sitting in now, with absorbent drapes rugs furniture--and tell me how irrelevant the ear pain and disorientation from being in a closed room with dozens of rifle shots is.
Some of those tiny ears should have been bleeding...
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See post above yours..

I know weapons, and loud weapons.


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What first grade class has only 13 kids, a teacher, and an aide?
Did a certain group get the word(on the QT) to stay home that day, like a certain group did on 9/11?
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THIS.
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I've been inside a classrom sized room where just one gunshot was fired--a .38--my ears hurt/rang for minutes--if dozens of rifle shots were fired, with hard block walls and wood doors and no carpeting, the sound bouncing--those kids should have been half-deaf and holding their hurting ears--I didn't see any of that in the reunited with parents pics, at all
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Maybe th last thing they were worried about was their fucking ears.

Good lord man....
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To the guy who said the above: that's not the point. The point is, they wouldn't have been able to hear the gunman asking 'where are the kids' and Soto's alleged reply, 'at the other end of the building.' They're feeding us a fairy tale again and this time it's so obvious.
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Yes, have read that others in that town including the police who were overrun with road set-ups already, as they became first responders or should have been, were told to get lost because the state police were there within minutes or seconds before the local police.

Many people in their town are now questioning all facts of the incident. Those who lost their children of course mourn and are easily swayed, perhaps they need to get attys. at this point and start asking the major questions.

I think the town is naming this as a false flag themselves and they were used and murdered. Sad but true. They simply do not want to become targets for stating how they feel.
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THIS.
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I've been inside a classrom sized room where just one gunshot was fired--a .38--my ears hurt/rang for minutes--if dozens of rifle shots were fired, with hard block walls and wood doors and no carpeting, the sound bouncing--those kids should have been half-deaf and holding their hurting ears--I didn't see any of that in the reunited with parents pics, at all
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Maybe th last thing they were worried about was their fucking ears.

Good lord man....
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To the guy who said the above: that's not the point. The point is, they wouldn't have been able to hear the gunman asking 'where are the kids' and Soto's alleged reply, 'at the other end of the building.' They're feeding us a fairy tale again and this time it's so obvious.
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Well, like I said...I have been aurally raped by a ciws at close range. The loudest thing I've ever experienced. So loud, I literally pissed myself a bit and thought I was dying. I could still hear moments after that. I have fired m60s, m14's but mostly m2's. I know loud, and I know weapons.

I too, believe there are things amiss with this false flag. But lite kids in fact died....call it discernment. One day, you will regret what you are saying.
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Yes, have read that others in that town including the police who were overrun with road set-ups already, as they became first responders or should have been, were told to get lost because the state police were there within minutes or seconds before the local police.

Many people in their town are now questioning all facts of the incident. Those who lost their children of course mourn and are easily swayed, perhaps they need to get attys. at this point and start asking the major questions.

I think the town is naming this as a false flag themselves and they were used and murdered. Sad but true. They simply do not want to become targets for stating how they feel.
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How long can we let the forces of evil get away with all this? If we can catch them in the act here, then people will begin to look at everything: all the scams, phony wars, lies upon lies upon lies. They can be exposed on this one.
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THIS.
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I've been inside a classrom sized room where just one gunshot was fired--a .38--my ears hurt/rang for minutes--if dozens of rifle shots were fired, with hard block walls and wood doors and no carpeting, the sound bouncing--those kids should have been half-deaf and holding their hurting ears--I didn't see any of that in the reunited with parents pics, at all
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Maybe th last thing they were worried about was their fucking ears.

Good lord man....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4284531

To the guy who said the above: that's not the point. The point is, they wouldn't have been able to hear the gunman asking 'where are the kids' and Soto's alleged reply, 'at the other end of the building.' They're feeding us a fairy tale again and this time it's so obvious.
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My point exactly--those tender ears would not be hearing anything but ringing, not conversation outside the closet.
There is a reason people wear ear cups at shooting ranges..so they can hear the rest of the day something other than ringing.
The only way anyone could be quoting the supposedly heroic Ms. Soto, whose original(now down the memory hole) RIP Victoria Soto FB page was created on December 10, would be if they had surveillance cams with quality audio, that recorded.
Not a mention by the cops of that, nor, surprizingly, no query as to where the surveillance video from the brand new $500000 security system is. Surely there is video at the front entrance that would show Lanza kicking or shooting his way through the glass panel beside the door. But shooting your way into a school, rather than being buzzed in by the principal who supposedly recognized you, as the son of a teacher, as was reported by the NY Times, no less, the morning of the event, would maybe kinda alert the entire wing that something bad--gunshots--was happening and the intruder-defense plan would go into effect immediately until the all-clear was sounded.
The principal herself was quoted by the Bee as saying there were more shots than she could count, that went on and on--in an interview before the site was secured--later retracted and the interview attributed to some other female, unnamed, "not the principal"
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Forest....trees.
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Okay, your 6 years old...you just witnessed most of your classmates mowed down by a crazy fuck. He shot your little friends 3-11 times each, turning them into bloody fucking hamburger.

Now, by a fucking miracle, you are reunited with your parents. In complete and total shock...mentally fucked for the rest of your life...

...but your ears hurt?

Forest for the trees nothing.

You idiot.
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Go ahead asshole--shoot your puny 9mm in the room you are sitting in now, with absorbent drapes rugs furniture--and tell me how irrelevant the ear pain and disorientation from being in a closed room with dozens of rifle shots is.
Some of those tiny ears should have been bleeding...
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See post above yours..

I know weapons, and loud weapons.


Next...
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do you have the thin skull and tender ears and sound sensibilities of a six year old?
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Okay, your 6 years old...you just witnessed most of your classmates mowed down by a crazy fuck. He shot your little friends 3-11 times each, turning them into bloody fucking hamburger.

Now, by a fucking miracle, you are reunited with your parents. In complete and total shock...mentally fucked for the rest of your life...

...but your ears hurt?

Forest for the trees nothing.

You idiot.
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Go ahead asshole--shoot your puny 9mm in the room you are sitting in now, with absorbent drapes rugs furniture--and tell me how irrelevant the ear pain and disorientation from being in a closed room with dozens of rifle shots is.
Some of those tiny ears should have been bleeding...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29757732



See post above yours..

I know weapons, and loud weapons.


Next...
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do you have the thin skull and tender ears and sound sensibilities of a six year old?
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Their ears wouldn't be bleeding...sorry.

And no, I didn't have the ears of a 6 year old. But, I also didn't watch my classmates get brutally gunned down.

Somehow, I think even if their ears were damaged, they would just be grateful to be out of there and with their families....hurting ears and all.

Really, try to put yourself in that situation, as much as you possibly can of course.
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Go ahead asshole--shoot your puny 9mm in the room you are sitting in now, with absorbent drapes rugs furniture--and tell me how irrelevant the ear pain and disorientation from being in a closed room with dozens of rifle shots is.
Some of those tiny ears should have been bleeding...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29757732



See post above yours..

I know weapons, and loud weapons.


Next...
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do you have the thin skull and tender ears and sound sensibilities of a six year old?
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Their ears wouldn't be bleeding...sorry.

And no, I didn't have the ears of a 6 year old. But, I also didn't watch my classmates get brutally gunned down.

Somehow, I think even if their ears were damaged, they would just be grateful to be out of there and with their families....hurting ears and all.

Really, try to put yourself in that situation, as much as you possibly can of course.
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The loud gunfire conversation is going nowhere because^^this guy doesn't get the point. It's not that their ears hurt, it's that they wouldn't have been able to hear the alleged conversation between the shooter and Soto. Do you understand yet???
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See post above yours..

I know weapons, and loud weapons.


Next...
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do you have the thin skull and tender ears and sound sensibilities of a six year old?
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Their ears wouldn't be bleeding...sorry.

And no, I didn't have the ears of a 6 year old. But, I also didn't watch my classmates get brutally gunned down.

Somehow, I think even if their ears were damaged, they would just be grateful to be out of there and with their families....hurting ears and all.

Really, try to put yourself in that situation, as much as you possibly can of course.
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The loud gunfire conversation is going nowhere because^^this guy doesn't get the point. It's not that their ears hurt, it's that they wouldn't have been able to hear the alleged conversation between the shooter and Soto. Do you understand yet???
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I fully understand. I'm just not some idiot that believes you. You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

It's amazing to me that so many fucknuts, like you, think they are experts on everything. What are your qualifications to make the claims you're making? Are you a medical expert? And ear doctor? What qualifies YOU, to know the state of the victims physical state, hearing capabilities, or anything else?

Tell us. Give us a reason to take what you say, as anything but speculation.
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See post above yours..

I know weapons, and loud weapons.


Next...
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do you have the thin skull and tender ears and sound sensibilities of a six year old?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29757732


Their ears wouldn't be bleeding...sorry.

And no, I didn't have the ears of a 6 year old. But, I also didn't watch my classmates get brutally gunned down.

Somehow, I think even if their ears were damaged, they would just be grateful to be out of there and with their families....hurting ears and all.

Really, try to put yourself in that situation, as much as you possibly can of course.
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The loud gunfire conversation is going nowhere because^^this guy doesn't get the point. It's not that their ears hurt, it's that they wouldn't have been able to hear the alleged conversation between the shooter and Soto. Do you understand yet???
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He told you he's a military guy, used to taking orders, being told what to believe, say, do, and brown-nose ass licking--that's how promotion works--so he doesn't want to understand that the loud gunfire in closed room made the delicate kiddees unable to hear anything for a good while--unlike the tough-guy soldier like him who can stand next to a muzzle-blast and tough it out.
Probably collecting a disability check for hearing loss...

>>>Firecrackers, gunshots, or other explosions create powerful sound waves. These can rupture your eardrum or damage the inner ear. This is called acoustic trauma. The result can be immediate and may result in permanent damage and hearing loss.
[link to www.webmd.com]
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do you have the thin skull and tender ears and sound sensibilities of a six year old?
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Their ears wouldn't be bleeding...sorry.

And no, I didn't have the ears of a 6 year old. But, I also didn't watch my classmates get brutally gunned down.

Somehow, I think even if their ears were damaged, they would just be grateful to be out of there and with their families....hurting ears and all.

Really, try to put yourself in that situation, as much as you possibly can of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4284531


The loud gunfire conversation is going nowhere because^^this guy doesn't get the point. It's not that their ears hurt, it's that they wouldn't have been able to hear the alleged conversation between the shooter and Soto. Do you understand yet???
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


I fully understand. I'm just not some idiot that believes you. You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

It's amazing to me that so many fucknuts, like you, think they are experts on everything. What are your qualifications to make the claims you're making? Are you a medical expert? And ear doctor? What qualifies YOU, to know the state of the victims physical state, hearing capabilities, or anything else?

Tell us. Give us a reason to take what you say, as anything but speculation.
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Here's the point I brought up originally in this thread: there are conflicting claims as to what happened with the seven surviving kids from Ms. Soto's class. were they hiding in the closet till police arrived, as the media reported; or did they flee the classroom to safety as others have said? Do you know?
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do you have the thin skull and tender ears and sound sensibilities of a six year old?
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Their ears wouldn't be bleeding...sorry.

And no, I didn't have the ears of a 6 year old. But, I also didn't watch my classmates get brutally gunned down.

Somehow, I think even if their ears were damaged, they would just be grateful to be out of there and with their families....hurting ears and all.

Really, try to put yourself in that situation, as much as you possibly can of course.
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The loud gunfire conversation is going nowhere because^^this guy doesn't get the point. It's not that their ears hurt, it's that they wouldn't have been able to hear the alleged conversation between the shooter and Soto. Do you understand yet???
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


I fully understand. I'm just not some idiot that believes you. You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

It's amazing to me that so many fucknuts, like you, think they are experts on everything. What are your qualifications to make the claims you're making? Are you a medical expert? And ear doctor? What qualifies YOU, to know the state of the victims physical state, hearing capabilities, or anything else?

Tell us. Give us a reason to take what you say, as anything but speculation.
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The entire scenario/story is nothing but speculation--you have seen no bodies, no blood, no still pics or video from the scene, only the oft-changed story, details "revised" as required by new indisputable claims
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Their ears wouldn't be bleeding...sorry.

And no, I didn't have the ears of a 6 year old. But, I also didn't watch my classmates get brutally gunned down.

Somehow, I think even if their ears were damaged, they would just be grateful to be out of there and with their families....hurting ears and all.

Really, try to put yourself in that situation, as much as you possibly can of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4284531


The loud gunfire conversation is going nowhere because^^this guy doesn't get the point. It's not that their ears hurt, it's that they wouldn't have been able to hear the alleged conversation between the shooter and Soto. Do you understand yet???
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


I fully understand. I'm just not some idiot that believes you. You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

It's amazing to me that so many fucknuts, like you, think they are experts on everything. What are your qualifications to make the claims you're making? Are you a medical expert? And ear doctor? What qualifies YOU, to know the state of the victims physical state, hearing capabilities, or anything else?

Tell us. Give us a reason to take what you say, as anything but speculation.
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Here's the point I brought up originally in this thread: there are conflicting claims as to what happened with the seven surviving kids from Ms. Soto's class. were they hiding in the closet till police arrived, as the media reported; or did they flee the classroom to safety as others have said? Do you know?
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No, I don't know.

But I am not interested in hearsay, which I caught you on. When I see a poster here, that interjects hearsay in their arguments...like you did, I am suspect. I'm a truther, through and through. If you're genuine, and are tryi g to get to the bottom of this, then do so with facts and not your uneducated opinions.

Shit like this is detrimental to the truth.

I agree, something is foul with this incident. But the amount of speculation and factless accusations that are flying around here is sickening.

I do apologize for being harsh, but if we are serious about truth, then we should be compiling and weighing facts.

No?
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Lanza next arrived at teacher Victoria Soto's classroom. Soto is believed to have hidden her 6- and 7-year old students in a classroom closet. When Lanza demanded to know where the children were, Soto tried to divert him to the other end of the school by saying that her students were in the auditorium.

But six of Soto's students tried to flee. Lanza shot them, Soto and another teacher who was in the room. Later, in their search for survivors, police found the remaining seven of Soto's students still hiding in the closet. They told the police what had happened.

[link to www.courant.com]
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Yes you are citing the Courant article, which hasn't been corrected. This guy on the radio today sounded genuine, and said his granddaughter was one of the survivors from Ms. Soto's class, which, according to the official story, were all found in the closet by the cops. but he's saying she ran out. Get it? The radio call-in guy's story doesn't match the official story. So was he a fraud? As I say, he didn't sound like it. I don't know if the broadcast can be found online now, but it took place today on WTIC at 11:55AM or so.
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Two Boys and four girls from Ms Soto's class saw her killed and escaped. They were later found by an older gentleman who had been out to breakfast and came home to find them sitting in a semicircle on his front lawn.

When he asked what they were doing there (he had not heard about the event) they told him they could not go back to school because they had not teacher. They could not go back to school because the teacher was dead.
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The loud gunfire conversation is going nowhere because^^this guy doesn't get the point. It's not that their ears hurt, it's that they wouldn't have been able to hear the alleged conversation between the shooter and Soto. Do you understand yet???
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


I fully understand. I'm just not some idiot that believes you. You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

It's amazing to me that so many fucknuts, like you, think they are experts on everything. What are your qualifications to make the claims you're making? Are you a medical expert? And ear doctor? What qualifies YOU, to know the state of the victims physical state, hearing capabilities, or anything else?

Tell us. Give us a reason to take what you say, as anything but speculation.
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Here's the point I brought up originally in this thread: there are conflicting claims as to what happened with the seven surviving kids from Ms. Soto's class. were they hiding in the closet till police arrived, as the media reported; or did they flee the classroom to safety as others have said? Do you know?
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No, I don't know.

But I am not interested in hearsay, which I caught you on. When I see a poster here, that interjects hearsay in their arguments...like you did, I am suspect. I'm a truther, through and through. If you're genuine, and are tryi g to get to the bottom of this, then do so with facts and not your uneducated opinions.

Shit like this is detrimental to the truth.

I agree, something is foul with this incident. But the amount of speculation and factless accusations that are flying around here is sickening.

I do apologize for being harsh, but if we are serious about truth, then we should be compiling and weighing facts.

No?
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So, which version of the story is facts--which is more than claims--did you see body bags rolled out--emts covered in blood--the ME with a drop of blood on him--pics of the bulletholes in the walls--did they patch them to reopen school Tuesday, and wiped away all the bloody slime and the rotting meat dead human smell so quickly?
It is all heresay. No primary source evidence has been presented. Just several variants of the socalled facts repeated ad nauseum, always ending with "Why would anyone need a semiauto rifle that holds 30 bullets?"
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Alright OP, reading back through the thread, it wasn't you who started the hearing aspect.

My issue is with the poster who did.
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The loud gunfire conversation is going nowhere because^^this guy doesn't get the point. It's not that their ears hurt, it's that they wouldn't have been able to hear the alleged conversation between the shooter and Soto. Do you understand yet???
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


I fully understand. I'm just not some idiot that believes you. You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

It's amazing to me that so many fucknuts, like you, think they are experts on everything. What are your qualifications to make the claims you're making? Are you a medical expert? And ear doctor? What qualifies YOU, to know the state of the victims physical state, hearing capabilities, or anything else?

Tell us. Give us a reason to take what you say, as anything but speculation.
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Here's the point I brought up originally in this thread: there are conflicting claims as to what happened with the seven surviving kids from Ms. Soto's class. were they hiding in the closet till police arrived, as the media reported; or did they flee the classroom to safety as others have said? Do you know?
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No, I don't know.

But I am not interested in hearsay, which I caught you on. When I see a poster here, that interjects hearsay in their arguments...like you did, I am suspect. I'm a truther, through and through. If you're genuine, and are tryi g to get to the bottom of this, then do so with facts and not your uneducated opinions.

Shit like this is detrimental to the truth.

I agree, something is foul with this incident. But the amount of speculation and factless accusations that are flying around here is sickening.

I do apologize for being harsh, but if we are serious about truth, then we should be compiling and weighing facts.

No?
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Everything we know about this case is heresay thus far. "They" told us the kids were in the closet and the cop found them there. See the Courant article I cited. Then they say they ended up at the old guy's house. But the Courant never said that the report about finding the kids alive in the closet was incorrect, at least not to my knowledge. So where did that report come from? Was the cop (or reporter) confused about which kids he found where? Too many things don't add up, and this is just one of them.
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Lanza next arrived at teacher Victoria Soto's classroom. Soto is believed to have hidden her 6- and 7-year old students in a classroom closet. When Lanza demanded to know where the children were, Soto tried to divert him to the other end of the school by saying that her students were in the auditorium.

But six of Soto's students tried to flee. Lanza shot them, Soto and another teacher who was in the room. Later, in their search for survivors, police found the remaining seven of Soto's students still hiding in the closet. They told the police what had happened.

[link to www.courant.com]
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Yes you are citing the Courant article, which hasn't been corrected. This guy on the radio today sounded genuine, and said his granddaughter was one of the survivors from Ms. Soto's class, which, according to the official story, were all found in the closet by the cops. but he's saying she ran out. Get it? The radio call-in guy's story doesn't match the official story. So was he a fraud? As I say, he didn't sound like it. I don't know if the broadcast can be found online now, but it took place today on WTIC at 11:55AM or so.
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Two Boys and four girls from Ms Soto's class saw her killed and escaped. They were later found by an older gentleman who had been out to breakfast and came home to find them sitting in a semicircle on his front lawn.

When he asked what they were doing there (he had not heard about the event) they told him they could not go back to school because they had not teacher. They could not go back to school because the teacher was dead.
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Didn't they say she heroically hid them all in the closet and stood in front of it, a human shield, telling the guman "go shoot them in the gym"?
Did one of the kids dropped in the driveway by the magical school bus say that's what she did? Is that where the story comes from?
Try watching Dr Oz archived show from last Thursday--one of the kids he interviewed said they were "having a drill" before OZzie cut him off..
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Well as far as I can see it is the state police dept doing the jobs in these affairs and those are the ones who should answer the everyones questions and take blames. So if it is the state police, who runs them? How close are they too whomever is involved?


Are they all freemasons in the state police or what as we found out in the military if you do not submit to the masons you will not get any better job ever, that means the women were always pushed aside, meaning always even if they were better at the job then the males were.


I mean we must all ask ourselves is the masons worth anymore respect or what? The state police must be told what to do by the Governors, it is a sham and time to just state what is and what is not.
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Besides the children that ended up at the man's house with the stuffed animals there was another group of children who had escaped the school. They were picked up by a woman in a car who saw them sitting on the side walk. She eventually turned them over to a authority of police or something like that. I think it was 5 or 6 kids. So two groups of kids escaped the school on their own apparently.

I saw the story on one of the news websites just a couple of days after it happened. Maybe the caller's grandchild to the radio show OP is talking about was one of those kids.

Does anyone else remember seeing that news story? It would have been a different group of kids than the ones that ended up at the stuffed animal man's house.
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Alright OP, reading back through the thread, it wasn't you who started the hearing aspect.

My issue is with the poster who did.
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[link to www.webmd.com]


...hearing loss. Sometimes it is caused by very loud and sudden noises. Firecrackers, gunshots, or other explosions create powerful sound waves. These can rupture your eardrum or damage the inner ear. This is called acoustic trauma. The result can be immediate and may result in permanent damage and hearing loss.
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Besides the children that ended up at the man's house with the stuffed animals there was another group of children who had escaped the school. They were picked up by a woman in a car who saw them sitting on the side walk. She eventually turned them over to a authority of police or something like that. I think it was 5 or 6 kids. So two groups of kids escaped the school on their own apparently.

I saw the story on one of the news websites just a couple of days after it happened. Maybe the caller's grandchild to the radio show OP is talking about was one of those kids.

Does anyone else remember seeing that news story? It would have been a different group of kids than the ones that ended up at the stuffed animal man's house.
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The radio caller specifically said a student in Ms. soto's class, who survived. He did not mention the stuffed animal guy. If you go to my orig. post, he said that she and the OTHER children in the room ran past the shooter as he reloaded. If possible, try to find the conversation. It occured on WTIC at 11:55 AM this morning.
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Alright OP, reading back through the thread, it wasn't you who started the hearing aspect.

My issue is with the poster who did.
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[link to www.webmd.com]


...hearing loss. Sometimes it is caused by very loud and sudden noises. Firecrackers, gunshots, or other explosions create powerful sound waves. These can rupture your eardrum or damage the inner ear. This is called acoustic trauma. The result can be immediate and may result in permanent damage and hearing loss.
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"Sometimes it is caused"

"These can rupture your eardrum"

"The result CAN result"

"And MAY result"


Hardly proof of anything. Read it again.
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The news station that reported on the woman picking up the kids on the side of road didn't say what classroom they were from.

Thanks, OP. What this grandpa is saying is probably more accurate than what the news & state troopers are telling us.
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The news station that reported on the woman picking up the kids on the side of road didn't say what classroom they were from.

Thanks, OP. What this grandpa is saying is probably more accurate than what the news & state troopers are telling us.
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Sad, isn't it?And everyone is too "grief-stricken" to ask even basic questions. Remember when Lt. Vance said they recovered some "very good" evidence from the Lanza home? Now they're saying they're finding almost nothing of value, as Lanza's hard drives were destroyed. And, of course, it makes total sense that a madman looking to go down in infamy would cover all his tracks. wtf
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...with a fake id from his bro...
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...who he hasn't seen in two years...





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