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Adama Lanza’s Message: Sandy, Ogres and Grimm Fairtytales

 
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There is a lot of “noise” around the Sandy Hook massacre, lots of “connections” and “links” that may or may not mean anything. What I am about to tell you centres on “extreme rareness”. They are events and instances that are highly unusual. Any of these coincidences alone are extremely unlikely yet together the odds are astronomical. They also tell a story. A story that the creatures of your childish nightmares are very real….This was the message of the Olympic Opening ceremony….

damned

The first of these is one you already know: that two of the most devastating events in USA history – one natural (Hurricane Sandy) one unnatural (Sandy Hook) should strike the USA in the space of months and both include the name SANDY.

The second is the one I bring to your attention now. It concerns CIP – “congenital insensitivity to pain.”
Congenital insensitivity to pain (CIP), also known as congenital analgesia, is one or more rare conditions where a person cannot feel (and has never felt) physical pain
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The first and only report of that I have seen that Adam Lanza suffered CIP was here:

“It was also revealed that the 20-year-old killer, who some who knew him described as a 'genius,' suffered from a condition which meant he could not feel any physical pain.
Newtown school district’s then head of security, Richard Novia, told the Daily Beast that the disorder meant he required extra supervision whenever he handled equipment with which he might unknowingly injure himself.


Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

It struck me immediately because it is extremely RARE and yet I had only recently read of just such a case:

The Hazards of Growing Up Painlessly
[link to www.nytimes.com]

This was the MAIN thing that stuck with me about Lanza because of its extreme rareness. What is the likelihood of encountering two reported sufferers in the media in such a small space of time?

This fact played on my mind.

On Wednesday night I watched Grimm (TV show). In that very episode, Game Ogre, the villain was ANOTHER reported sufferer of CIP. The episode is even recorded on the CIP wiki entry as one of the few media representations of the disorder.
[link to grimm.wikia.com]

Idol1

Now I was galvanised. Surely this meant something?

I checked the episode: Game Ogre. It was the first episode screened in 2012 and first broadcast on my birthday: Jan 13th.

I actually wrote a thread stating that this date Jan 13th 2012 was incredibly important but did not know why. It has 39 replies. I am 39.
Thread: January 13th 2012

The final incredible rarity: The next morning I awoke and GOOGLE was celebrating the 200th anniversary of Grimm!
[link to mashable.com]

The message is that we are dealing with OGRES: GIANTS aka NEPHILIM who kill and devour children! Ogres have been linked to Gilles de Rais:

Gilles de Montmorency-Laval (1404–1440), Baron de Rais, was a Breton knight, a leader in the French army and a companion-in-arms of Joan of Arc. He is best known by his reputation and conviction as a prolific serial killer of children.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The word ogre is of French origin. Its earliest attestation is in Chrétien de Troyes' late 12th century verse romance Perceval, li contes del graal, which contains the lines:
"And it is written that he will come again to all the realms of Logres, known as the land of ogres, and destroy them with that LANCE."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Lanza means LANCE:

Spanish: from lanza ‘lance’, either a nickname for a soldier (lancer) or occupational name for a lance maker.
[link to www.ancestry.com]

Enough for now. I am sure there is much more. In fact I could tell you more but you have much to ponder and hopefully begin your own investigation.
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LANDSER!

For the german landser.


The Nazis are still here.

Project paperclip still alive..

Maurice Greenberg

World domination.

These guys exposed in the following thread;
Thread: Another pair of actors in Sandy hoax exposed. 100% BUSTED!

are from the greenberg family. They have ties to Nazis and if you check the all traces its clear that the U.S is faciliated to be the ultimate sheep nation to be led by neo socio fascist regime to bring on the new world order..
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There is a lot of “noise” around the Sandy Hook massacre, lots of “connections” and “links” that may or may not mean anything. What I am about to tell you centres on “extreme rareness”. They are events and instances that are highly unusual. Any of these coincidences alone are extremely unlikely yet together the odds are astronomical. They also tell a story. A story that the creatures of your childish nightmares are very real….This was the message of the Olympic Opening ceremony….

damned

The first of these is one you already know: that two of the most devastating events in USA history – one natural (Hurricane Sandy) one unnatural (Sandy Hook) should strike the USA in the space of months and both include the name SANDY.

The second is the one I bring to your attention now. It concerns CIP – “congenital insensitivity to pain.”
Congenital insensitivity to pain (CIP), also known as congenital analgesia, is one or more rare conditions where a person cannot feel (and has never felt) physical pain
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The first and only report of that I have seen that Adam Lanza suffered CIP was here:

“It was also revealed that the 20-year-old killer, who some who knew him described as a 'genius,' suffered from a condition which meant he could not feel any physical pain.
Newtown school district’s then head of security, Richard Novia, told the Daily Beast that the disorder meant he required extra supervision whenever he handled equipment with which he might unknowingly injure himself.


Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

It struck me immediately because it is extremely RARE and yet I had only recently read of just such a case:

The Hazards of Growing Up Painlessly
[link to www.nytimes.com]

This was the MAIN thing that stuck with me about Lanza because of its extreme rareness. What is the likelihood of encountering two reported sufferers in the media in such a small space of time?

This fact played on my mind.

On Wednesday night I watched Grimm (TV show). In that very episode, Game Ogre, the villain was ANOTHER reported sufferer of CIP. The episode is even recorded on the CIP wiki entry as one of the few media representations of the disorder.
[link to grimm.wikia.com]

Idol1

Now I was galvanised. Surely this meant something?

I checked the episode: Game Ogre. It was the first episode screened in 2012 and first broadcast on my birthday: Jan 13th.

I actually wrote a thread stating that this date Jan 13th 2012 was incredibly important but did not know why. It has 39 replies. I am 39.
Thread: January 13th 2012

The final incredible rarity: The next morning I awoke and GOOGLE was celebrating the 200th anniversary of Grimm!
[link to mashable.com]

The message is that we are dealing with OGRES: GIANTS aka NEPHILIM who kill and devour children! Ogres have been linked to Gilles de Rais:

Gilles de Montmorency-Laval (1404–1440), Baron de Rais, was a Breton knight, a leader in the French army and a companion-in-arms of Joan of Arc. He is best known by his reputation and conviction as a prolific serial killer of children.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The word ogre is of French origin. Its earliest attestation is in Chrétien de Troyes' late 12th century verse romance Perceval, li contes del graal, which contains the lines:
"And it is written that he will come again to all the realms of Logres, known as the land of ogres, and destroy them with that LANCE."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Lanza means LANCE:

Spanish: from lanza ‘lance’, either a nickname for a soldier (lancer) or occupational name for a lance maker.
[link to www.ancestry.com]

Enough for now. I am sure there is much more. In fact I could tell you more but you have much to ponder and hopefully begin your own investigation.
 Quoting: Mary Poppins 870381


if you want another random connection-I also watched Grimm the other night, found CIP very interesting in the Ogre, did some watching of interviews with Silas(the guy who plays Munroe)and dundundun...its filmed in Oregon they used Portland mainly, but also a place called"Sandy"
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
named after the nearby sandy river.
random i Know.
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Sandy! That's awesome!

hf

So glad you saw Grimm & posted.

I am so strong in my belief this makes sense....All the connections& the Grimm google the next day...I watch Once Upon A Time as well and it links to Sandy Island via Lost...(They moved the island)

[link to www.smh.com.au]

[link to onceuponatime.wikia.com]

These shows about fairy tales being real..All HOOKS up....
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if you want another random connection-I also watched Grimm the other night, found CIP very interesting in the Ogre, did some watching of interviews with Silas(the guy who plays Munroe)and dundundun...its filmed in Oregon they used Portland mainly, but also a place called"Sandy"
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
named after the nearby sandy river.
random i Know.
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Your link is the link to EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!

Sandy is a city located in Clackamas County, Oregon, United States, and named after the nearby Sandy River.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


Gunman, two victims die in Clackamas mall shooting
The mall re-opened Friday, three days after the shooting rampage that took three lives and sent terrified shoppers running for cover Tuesday afternoon
[link to www.kgw.com]

He wore a JASON mask from Friday 13th (movie).

Lanza's aunt, who has been vocal in the media, is from Crystal Lake the setting from Friday 13th!
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

See:
[link to copycateffect.blogspot.com.au]


Only Crysatal Lake in the USA.
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Someone posts a video of a guy smiling when his kid is killed and you are all OMG! He’s an ACTOR!Its a massive psyops. It's The Truman Show.

You know what? His whole life is probably an act. Whose isn’t?

Thats far more likely than what many here suggest.

Statistically if a kid is murdered the perpetrator is most likely the parent.
[link to www.dewar4research.org]

Does that blow your mind? It does not even include abortions.
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wow.and i just read a thread on paid crisis actors, you still about OP?
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Yeah. Thought I'd give this thread one last look before getting off the computer.

Just found out something else. I quoted this is as the first recorded use of word ogre:

"And it is written that he will come again to all the realms of Logres, known as the land of ogres, and destroy them with that lance[Lanza]."

Logres means England.

Connecticut is New England

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Means New Land of the Ogres
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Very interesting thread OP!

Please take a look here as well...there's a profound message throughout this mess, that's for sure!

Thread: Anagrams of the Lanza Family & CT Massacre - Zechariah 14 and Dream/Prophecy Messages - MUST WATCH!!

colorbump & 5*
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I held this back but perhaps I should mention it. It will help you understand the Grimm connection & why I am so convinced it means something.

The last time I experienced such incredible “coincidence” as CIP was a few weeks ago. It concerned the practice of “trepanning”. Again something incredibly rare and yet, like this, I experienced three occurrences in a relatively short period of time. I even posted about it because it was so bizarre.

hiding

Trepanning:
Trepanning, also known as trephination, trephining or making a burr hole, is a surgical intervention in which a hole is drilled or scraped into the human skull, exposing the dura mater to treat health problems related to intracranial diseases. It may also refer to any "burr" hole created through other body surfaces, including nail beds. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The VERY SAME night I posted I witnessed an attempt trepanning like event on TV in a show called RED RIDING.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Red Riding Hood is the very fairy tale profiled in the Grimm Google Doodle I referred to.

Idol1

The show I was watching was about a criminal conspiracy, involving the police, to kidnap, rape and murder children.
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I told you:

We Need To Talk About Kevin
Thread: We Need To Talk About Kevin

Did anyone else on this forum?
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There is a lot of “noise” around the Sandy Hook massacre, lots of “connections” and “links” that may or may not mean anything. What I am about to tell you centres on “extreme rareness”. They are events and instances that are highly unusual. Any of these coincidences alone are extremely unlikely yet together the odds are astronomical. They also tell a story. A story that the creatures of your childish nightmares are very real….This was the message of the Olympic Opening ceremony….

damned

The first of these is one you already know: that two of the most devastating events in USA history – one natural (Hurricane Sandy) one unnatural (Sandy Hook) should strike the USA in the space of months and both include the name SANDY.

The second is the one I bring to your attention now. It concerns CIP – “congenital insensitivity to pain.”
Congenital insensitivity to pain (CIP), also known as congenital analgesia, is one or more rare conditions where a person cannot feel (and has never felt) physical pain
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The first and only report of that I have seen that Adam Lanza suffered CIP was here:

“It was also revealed that the 20-year-old killer, who some who knew him described as a 'genius,' suffered from a condition which meant he could not feel any physical pain.
Newtown school district’s then head of security, Richard Novia, told the Daily Beast that the disorder meant he required extra supervision whenever he handled equipment with which he might unknowingly injure himself.


Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

It struck me immediately because it is extremely RARE and yet I had only recently read of just such a case:

The Hazards of Growing Up Painlessly
[link to www.nytimes.com]

This was the MAIN thing that stuck with me about Lanza because of its extreme rareness. What is the likelihood of encountering two reported sufferers in the media in such a small space of time?

This fact played on my mind.

On Wednesday night I watched Grimm (TV show). In that very episode, Game Ogre, the villain was ANOTHER reported sufferer of CIP. The episode is even recorded on the CIP wiki entry as one of the few media representations of the disorder.
[link to grimm.wikia.com]

Idol1

Now I was galvanised. Surely this meant something?

I checked the episode: Game Ogre. It was the first episode screened in 2012 and first broadcast on my birthday: Jan 13th.

I actually wrote a thread stating that this date Jan 13th 2012 was incredibly important but did not know why. It has 39 replies. I am 39.
Thread: January 13th 2012

The final incredible rarity: The next morning I awoke and GOOGLE was celebrating the 200th anniversary of Grimm!
[link to mashable.com]

The message is that we are dealing with OGRES: GIANTS aka NEPHILIM who kill and devour children! Ogres have been linked to Gilles de Rais:

Gilles de Montmorency-Laval (1404–1440), Baron de Rais, was a Breton knight, a leader in the French army and a companion-in-arms of Joan of Arc. He is best known by his reputation and conviction as a prolific serial killer of children.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The word ogre is of French origin. Its earliest attestation is in Chrétien de Troyes' late 12th century verse romance Perceval, li contes del graal, which contains the lines:
"And it is written that he will come again to all the realms of Logres, known as the land of ogres, and destroy them with that LANCE."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Lanza means LANCE:

Spanish: from lanza ‘lance’, either a nickname for a soldier (lancer) or occupational name for a lance maker.
[link to www.ancestry.com]

Enough for now. I am sure there is much more. In fact I could tell you more but you have much to ponder and hopefully begin your own investigation.
 Quoting: Mary Poppins 870381


if you want another random connection-I also watched Grimm the other night, found CIP very interesting in the Ogre, did some watching of interviews with Silas(the guy who plays Munroe)and dundundun...its filmed in Oregon they used Portland mainly, but also a place called"Sandy"
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
named after the nearby sandy river.
random i Know.
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I asked for a "sign" on this thread. I said "Bluebeard".

The next day I saw it.

It was on a taxi cab - Bluebeard - and as it passed from my vision I saw "Monroe".

The werewolf in Grimm is Monroe (not Munroe)

This fits because there is another clue: 36.

The age that Marilyn Monroe died.

36 – the age of the death of The Queen of Hearts (Diana) and The Queen of Diamonds (Monroe). That is the link because if you look at Madonna’s vid 'Give Me All Your Luvin' you will see that 36 is on the jacket of every ‘player’.

See all the MM & 36 clues here:
Thread: The Queens of Clubs, Spades, Diamonds and Hearts


The only road that connects to Sandy Hook is Route 36
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Adam and Nancy Lanza
36 Yogalanda St.

What I know about 36:

666 is the sum of the first 36 natural numbers
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WoW - spot on about Monroe.

All the clues lead to it!

With their original school still being treated as a crime scene, the more than 400 students are now attending a school, formerly known as Chalk Hill School, in the neighboring town of Monroe.

The site has taken the name Sandy Hook Elementary School - known as the place where six staff members and 20 children lost their lives on December 14 - after discussions with staff.

Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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Not sure if legit......Or i'm just becoming lunatic fringe.
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and this; one haunted place:

[link to www.ghosteyes.com]


it is listed on almost every "ghost" site out there
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and this; one haunted place:

[link to www.ghosteyes.com]


it is listed on almost every "ghost" site out there
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They closed it down in '95, 17 yrs. ago, and haven't done anything with the building or property? And they patrol it to keep people out? Very strange.
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Remember that Nanny – Yoselyn Ortega – charged with murdering those two children in New York just prior to Hurricane Sandy?
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Well those kids were Grimms!

Krim = variant of Grimm
[link to genealogy.familyeducation.com]

The word OGRE is in ORTEGA

The children were 2 & 6

There were 26 reported killed at Sandy Hook elementary.
Murders happened October 25th. One day later, on the 26th:

"Governor Andrew Cuomo declared a statewide state of emergency and asked for a pre-disaster declaration on October 26, which President Obama signed later that day".

All residents of Sandy Hook ordered to evacuate

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The nanny, Ortega, was a native of the Dominican Republic, where two deaths were reported from Hurricane Sandy October 24th – one day before the murders.
[link to newswatch.nationalgeographic.com]

Ortega was reported to be 50.

There are exactly 50 days between Krim/Grimm murders – October 25th – and Sandy Hook – Dec 14th.
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This abc news interview of a mother and daughter @ 2:12 the video shows what looks like a child’s book behind the child's head and looks like it fits the theme of this thread.

On the cover of the book it has knights with sword and shield and what looks like a monster with a crown and some energy light balls.

It appears to read..
“ Finally, Fight The Evil Sorceress (? illegible ) ”.

I do not know what this means but thought it was kind of odd.
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Here's another one. No one (other than his murdered mother) has seen Adam Lanza since 2009

2009-2012 = THREE YEARS! What are the odds of that!?

Dad and brother hadn't seen him, neighbors hadn't seen him, NO ONE has seen him for years.

And we get a few pics of his earlier years where he looks like a nice, decent kid. And then that last creepy, grainy freak looking picture from ??? SOURCE UNKNOWN. A source who wants him to look at scary as possible, obviously.

No sign of his brother or dad since the shooting. Dad was reported murdered early on that horrible day, only to turn up alive! Principal D. Hochsprung was reported alive early on that day by the Newtown Bee, only to turn up dead! Brother Ryan was reported to be murderer having killed himself inside school, with Adam being reported to be in police custody earlier in day. Then Ryan starts posting annoying FB updates saying he's at work, then Adam is killed that died in school and innocent brother is still led away in cuffs. PTB obviously had trouble getting the narrative on track.

Coptor footage and police scanner recordings indicate multiple suspects running all over the scene. They capture some. Nothing more heard of them!

Parents of slaughtered children appearing on TV, serene and smiling, like they just won the Publisher's Clearinghouse Giveaway. Based on fundraiser sites launched the same day as children were slaughtered, or in some cases, days or weeks BEFORE the event, I guess, in a way, they did win the sweepstakes.

Car belonging to mother and allegedly driven to school by Adam to commit murders was found with all four doors open and was registered to a long-time felon (with 5 new felonies hanging over his head). So how did the kid get to the school?

Grimm indeed!

Bottomline is this. A painfully shy kid who hasn't been seen by anyone in three years and managed to pull off, all by himself, a kill rate that would be impossible for all but the most skilled assassin...is a patsy dropped at the scene. Not a giant in some fairy tale.
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Found out about this show Revolution that has a General Monroe ruling the Monroe Republic

"In Season 1 Episode 5, "Soul Train", a map of the former Contiguous United States is shown.[9] The map showed the former continental United States divided into six parts: the Monroe Republic, the Georgia Federation, the Plains Nation, The Republic of Texas, the California Commonwealth and the Wasteland. "
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Monroe Republic covers New England/Sandy Hook.
(See above for Monroe/Sandy Hook link).

Bluebeard link? I googled & got this link to another show –The Cape - which had released stills of Ep2 labelled “Bluebeard”. An episode that did not exist! : [link to www.capesite.net]

What’s interesting is that The Cape stars David Lyons, who is General Monroe in Revolution!
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Lyons/Monroe is 36! Look above for the significance of Monroe/ 36.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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