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No shots to be heard if they had already killed "Adam."
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So you're saying it wasn't an 'order' we heard...it was just someone with inside knowledge blabbering to himself on a hot mic?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Very possible. Just thinking out loud.

Remember this was said immediately after cop announced they were starting an interior search of school.

So in that context, it makes sense to hurry and kill the patsy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30566631


I agree. I wish there was more information. The scanner is a solid source to work from.

We have the creepy reference that sounds like 'end the life of Adam' and no gunshot heard or reported. Was he already dead? Did they shoot him and no one on scene reported it?

How many law enforcement officials do you suppose were on scene as he said it?

How many law enforcement officers would have heard a gunshot if one occurred just after he said it?
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Also, since it's the regular police scanner, aren't they taking a huge chance on getting caught?????
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With speakers, it is very clear, "End the life of Adam." Why would someone speak this way? He is trying to speak in code and yet be explicit. Military to be sure. Very calm and focused.
The whole thing seems staged. Even if the pathologist tested Adam's gloves for powder, I wouldn't believe a word of his report.
The fact alone that Adam's hard drive was erased is enough to call this a psy op.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26944771


The real classroom killer (op 2) put his outfit on Adam after shooting up the classrooms. This would also include his gloves, meaning a pathologist testing Adam's gloves, would have all the expected evidence... it still necessarily wouldn't mean Adam was the one wearing them at the time of the shootings.
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So you're saying it wasn't an 'order' we heard...it was just someone with inside knowledge blabbering to himself on a hot mic?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Very possible. Just thinking out loud.

Remember this was said immediately after cop announced they were starting an interior search of school.

So in that context, it makes sense to hurry and kill the patsy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30566631


I agree. I wish there was more information. The scanner is a solid source to work from.

We have the creepy reference that sounds like 'end the life of Adam' and no gunshot heard or reported. Was he already dead? Did they shoot him and no one on scene reported it?

How many law enforcement officials do you suppose were on scene as he said it?

How many law enforcement officers would have heard a gunshot if one occurred just after he said it?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze




Also, since it's the regular police scanner, aren't they taking a huge chance on getting caught?????
 Quoting: Unit3


A rogue cop has 2 radios, he most likely spoke into a hot mic by accident.
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They're not trying to "ban guns." The topic is hot now, but it will cool off eventually. But either way they're not coming for your guns.

The government did not kill 20 first graders just so they could push some gun policy.
 Quoting: Monk Meat


You know nothing about the government then. Do you remember operation northwoods? What were the willing to do to get a war started with Cuba?

(1) Start rumors (many). Use clandestine radio.
(2) Land friendly Cubans in uniform "over-the-fence" to stage attack on base.
(3) Capture Cuban (friendly) saboteurs inside the base.
(4) Start riots near the base main gate (friendly Cubans).
(5) Blow up ammunition inside the base: start fires.
(6) Burn aircraft on air base (sabotage).
(7) Lob mortar shells from outside of base into base.
(8) Capture assault teams approaching from the sea or vicinity of Guantanamo City.
(9) Capture militia group which storms base.
(10) Sabotage ship in harbor; large fires – naphthalene.
(11) Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals for mock-victims.
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I know enough to know that regardless of your "operation Northwoods" account, these 26 people who were killed last Friday, were not killed by the government.

Let me ask you this...do you think any bad shit just happens at all? Or is everything one big "operation whateverthefuck" perpetrated by the government?
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Bad stuff happens without the government behind it but you refuse to say the government is involved in some of it.

Why is that?
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I never said the government is never involved in some things.

I'm talking specifically about Sandy Hook incident.
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So you're saying it wasn't an 'order' we heard...it was just someone with inside knowledge blabbering to himself on a hot mic?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Very possible. Just thinking out loud.

Remember this was said immediately after cop announced they were starting an interior search of school.

So in that context, it makes sense to hurry and kill the patsy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30566631


I agree. I wish there was more information. The scanner is a solid source to work from.

We have the creepy reference that sounds like 'end the life of Adam' and no gunshot heard or reported. Was he already dead? Did they shoot him and no one on scene reported it?

How many law enforcement officials do you suppose were on scene as he said it?

How many law enforcement officers would have heard a gunshot if one occurred just after he said it?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Also, since it's the regular police scanner, aren't they taking a huge chance on getting caught?????
 Quoting: Unit3


I also somewhat agree it could of possibly of also been a total accident and he meant to switch channels or use a different walkie but had both activated by accident and it went over the police scanner.
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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Also, since it's the regular police scanner, aren't they taking a huge chance on getting caught?????
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Worth the risk when you think about the alternative... which was the good cops finding Adam still alive...

Sending a message like this over a police channel might throw a wrench into the plan, but the patsy living throws the whole thing damn near overboard.
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Code Adam is a "missing child" safety program in the United States and Canada
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Code Adam is a "missing child" safety program in the United States and Canada

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Just to bad the whispering voice say "end the life of adam" I have 5.1 surround sound and its clear as day.
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Just to bad the whispering voice say "end the life of adam" I have 5.1 surround sound and its clear as day.
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Morans hear what they want to hear.

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Just to bad the whispering voice say "end the life of adam" I have 5.1 surround sound and its clear as day.
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Agreed. People just need to turn down their bass and turn up the volume. Without bass distortion (like through my crappy headset which has like no bass) its as clear as a bell.
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Also, since it's the regular police scanner, aren't they taking a huge chance on getting caught?????
 Quoting: Unit3


Worth the risk when you think about the alternative... which was the good cops finding Adam still alive...

Sending a message like this over a police channel might throw a wrench into the plan, but the patsy living throws the whole thing damn near overboard.
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Well the alternative would be having a better plan for signaling in the first place. Any audible at all which could have been put in place by the "black op cops" This whole thing of someone ordering the killing of Adam by saying "end the life of Adam" over the police frequency makes ZERO sense.

When was the last time you saw a quarterback at the line yell.."OK JONES YOU RUN THAT WAY...AND SMITH YOU RUN THE OTHER WAY AND I'LL THROW THE BALL TO YOU" I mean c'mon guys...you mean football players have a better grasp of the benefits of codes more than these "black op cops"?
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He was absolutely sure that beyond those school doors lied his wildest dreams.

Then he was gunned down, this is MKULTA.
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Nicely stated, I don't consider M K much, but that is quite profound.
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Just to bad the whispering voice say "end the life of adam" I have 5.1 surround sound and its clear as day.
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Oh so you think they broadcast in surround sound now? What is this, Avatar?
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Also, since it's the regular police scanner, aren't they taking a huge chance on getting caught?????
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Worth the risk when you think about the alternative... which was the good cops finding Adam still alive...

Sending a message like this over a police channel might throw a wrench into the plan, but the patsy living throws the whole thing damn near overboard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28724521


Well the alternative would be having a better plan for signaling in the first place. Any audible at all which could have been put in place by the "black op cops" This whole thing of someone ordering the killing of Adam by saying "end the life of Adam" over the police frequency makes ZERO sense.

When was the last time you saw a quarterback at the line yell.."OK JONES YOU RUN THAT WAY...AND SMITH YOU RUN THE OTHER WAY AND I'LL THROW THE BALL TO YOU" I mean c'mon guys...you mean football players have a better grasp of the benefits of codes more than these "black op cops"?
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Black op cops are human and humans make mistakes.

I doubt what he said was an order, but more than likely thinking out loud into a hot mic.
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I have listened to ausio clips multiple times and don't hear anything clear enough to determine that is what they are saying.
I have Pro Tools may pull audio in and try to clean it up when
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You, with the "Pro Tools" why don't you do that and then post?
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Because I am at location computer where I have Pro Tools Loaded.
BTW There are plenty of audio tools out there for free as well if someone wants to give it a shot b4 i can.
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I have listened to ausio clips multiple times and don't hear anything clear enough to determine that is what they are saying.
I have Pro Tools may pull audio in and try to clean it up when
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You, with the "Pro Tools" why don't you do that and then post?
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Because I am at location computer where I have Pro Tools Loaded.
BTW There are plenty of audio tools out there for free as well if someone wants to give it a shot b4 i can.
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Sorry..I meant to say Because I am "NOT" at computer where I have Pro Tools Loaded.
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Just to bad the whispering voice say "end the life of adam" I have 5.1 surround sound and its clear as day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30558124


Oh so you think they broadcast in surround sound now? What is this, Avatar?
 Quoting: Monk Meat


... ok there shill. No he is simply stating if you listen to it with good speakers its obvious what is said... the "end the life of adam" comes out more clearly then 90% of the talking on that entire 12 min recording. If you are not hearing it you either has really shitty equipment, or are choosing not to hear the blatant clear words being spoken.

And to answer you question where you mock me using football, no I don't expect them to go out of their way to announce something this major on a police scanner... the lookout/cleaner was no longer in the school and only said what he said to make sure the operatives in the school had finished their job and understood the current situation (of other cops being on scene)... an unfinished job = loose ends that CANT be denied (such as a walking talking patsy)... loose ends that can't be denied can end up landing some real players in jail. He said what he said to confirm the mission was complete as the police were in the immediate area and so if Adam wasn't dead already it was to late. It's called a last ditch "heads up".
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Thread: Is this the 2nd shooter?

This thug seems to be connected to this, but nobody is talking about it.


[link to www.youtube.com] watch?v=Y6C2YmOLWnM#!

Someone with screen name Sheila alien (sheilaaliens.net)has done a lot of investigative work on this and produced that video. There is a Cristopher Manfredonia mentioned as being caught by by police and he said he was there to help out in classroom of his child. Why he ran into the woods nobody knows. Much speculation in comments on this you tube page.

But if you read thru additional postings in the comments section (there are over 600 of them but it isn't that far down in the listings)you'll see that she plays more of the police calls tape and the cops also caught someone named Christopher A. Rodia who according to Sheila and to search engines (I looked) has an arrest & conviction record for sex with kids and several theft charges. Note: there are 2 different people with that same name in the area.

So where is Christopher right now?
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Right. I've linked to two different websites that have recent criminal records for Christopher Rodia.

He was at Sandy Hook that morning. He was detained by the police. It's on the scanner. It doesn't say Christopher Manfredonia on the scanner.

The cops spell out Rodia's last name.

They say, "R-O-D-I-A", that doesn't spell "relief" nor does it spell "Manfredonia."

It spells Rodia.

He has the theft charges. As far as I can tell, the other Christopher Rodia, who has the sex offender charges, is from Pennsylvania and his mugshot doesn't look like Christopher Rodia who I've linked to above, and who lives 30 miles away from Newtown. This is the other Christopher Rodia you are talking about, who is not the one that was detained in Newtown that morning: [link to www.offendex.com]

Let's be clear with our information and don't muddle the facts. They're obviously different people.

The police scanner clearly says

CHRISTOPHER RODIA with a date of birth of AUGUST 1969, which fits the evidence that I have provided in my links.

:)
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The guy who was brought into custody was reported to be Christopher Manfredonia. This is the man who was cuffed and supposedly walked by onlookers and said "I didn't do it." or something of that nature.

However, according to the scanner, his name was Christopher Rodia.

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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Also, since it's the regular police scanner, aren't they taking a huge chance on getting caught?????
 Quoting: Unit3


Worth the risk when you think about the alternative... which was the good cops finding Adam still alive...

Sending a message like this over a police channel might throw a wrench into the plan, but the patsy living throws the whole thing damn near overboard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28724521


Well the alternative would be having a better plan for signaling in the first place. Any audible at all which could have been put in place by the "black op cops" This whole thing of someone ordering the killing of Adam by saying "end the life of Adam" over the police frequency makes ZERO sense.

When was the last time you saw a quarterback at the line yell.."OK JONES YOU RUN THAT WAY...AND SMITH YOU RUN THE OTHER WAY AND I'LL THROW THE BALL TO YOU" I mean c'mon guys...you mean football players have a better grasp of the benefits of codes more than these "black op cops"?
 Quoting: Monk Meat


Black op cops are human and humans make mistakes.

I doubt what he said was an order, but more than likely thinking out loud into a hot mic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30566631


Yeah...I just don't buy it.

I mean that kind of a mistake....thinking out loud on a hot mic...is a quite a stretch, especially for a specially trained so-called black op cop.
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source for all of this is a yt vid that was admittedly edited?

ghey.

so you guys think the cops dont know that scanner traffic is recorded on the interwebs?

ghey.

you guys dont have work to do or any contributions to society to make?

ghey.
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OK, it sounds like "__ her life without it"

The first word sounds like it starts with an "h" sound, like "haim" or "hain" ... could be the first part of the sentence got cut off.
Faire et se taire
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i feel bad for all my bitches named sandy. first the hurricane and now this. poor sandies are fully besmirched.
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Yeah...I just don't buy it.

I mean that kind of a mistake....thinking out loud on a hot mic...is a quite a stretch, especially for a specially trained so-called black op cop.
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Let me ask you something... if you just were part of a secret black op mission to kill children, that's outcome was still undecided, and you just finished planting a shotgun used in the crime in a patsy's car, minutes after knowing 2 classrooms of children were shot to death which you assisted in, and didn't know if the patsy was dead or alive still, and your 2 accomplices are unreachable by foot without drawing attention to the back entrance of the school (again where all the action is which would blow the whole op) and want to make a last ditch effort to find out "am I going to jail today or not"... cuz it really depends how smoothly this op goes. With all that happening you honestly cant see someone making a mistake. You must think these people are gods or something that are totally incapable of making an error... bad assumption.
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source for all of this is a yt vid that was admittedly edited?

ghey.

so you guys think the cops dont know that scanner traffic is recorded on the interwebs?

ghey.

you guys dont have work to do or any contributions to society to make?

ghey.
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The source is not a youtube video edited. Its clearly heard on the unedited radiorefence recording of the police scanners for that day.
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Just to bad the whispering voice say "end the life of adam" I have 5.1 surround sound and its clear as day.
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Oh so you think they broadcast in surround sound now? What is this, Avatar?
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... ok there shill. No he is simply stating if you listen to it with good speakers its obvious what is said... the "end the life of adam" comes out more clearly then 90% of the talking on that entire 12 min recording. If you are not hearing it you either has really shitty equipment, or are choosing not to hear the blatant clear words being spoken.

And to answer you question where you mock me using football, no I don't expect them to go out of their way to announce something this major on a police scanner... the lookout/cleaner was no longer in the school and only said what he said to make sure the operatives in the school had finished their job and understood the current situation (of other cops being on scene)... an unfinished job = loose ends that CANT be denied (such as a walking talking patsy)... loose ends that can't be denied can end up landing some real players in jail. He said what he said to confirm the mission was complete as the police were in the immediate area and so if Adam wasn't dead already it was to late. It's called a last ditch "heads up".
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Call me a shill all you want. At this point I take it as a compliment, as it means we're not in the same league.

Listening to a police scanner in 5.1 surround sound...means nothing. You can try and clean up the audio a bit through software, but that's it. And if you knew anything at all of what you're talking about, you'd know that headphones are the best option for something like this, not speakers.

PLUS...if someone actually took the time to either clear it up with software and/or ATTEMPT to listen to it through 5.1 surround...that means it obviously wasn't conclusive enough for them to start with, which means..it is not clear :)

You hear it because you want to hear it.
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That theory is full of holes because the theorizer did not do his homework. He didn't even check the schematic of the building obviously. No offense, but you watched too many movies, and did not think this through, but kudos for at least trying. You have alot of decent ideas actually but way to many holes.

- The new security protocol was that people only get buzzed in after 9:30. Look it up.

- After 9:30 No other main doors in the building could open without alerting the office secretary who monitors the security panel.

- All the action occurred between 15-75 feet MAX of the front entrance. The office, the first grade classrooms, the gym, all right there. They would never risk letting someone in the back door wearing combat clothing and a mask, just to walk all the way through the school to do shooting at the front of the school.

For example, you wrote "Meanwhile operative 2 (the one that forces his way through the front door) makes his way through the school to meet up with the other operative"

If you had checked the schematic, you would have realized they would have been standing within about 25 feet of each other once the entrance was breached.

The on duty police officers is a huge stretch. Not saying Local cops could'nt be bought off for a few million a piece, but wow, it is just too risky. They make LOTS of money in a town like that.

Adam definitely had help, if he did any shooting at all.

After all, the officer on scene in the interior states that they found multiple weapons, LONG RIFLES (PLURAL) and a shotgun.

NO way in hell Adam Lanza carried An AR-15, an Enfield Rifle, a shotgun, and 2 9mm pistols, including ammo.

More research to be done but this isn't over.
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I will respond to your Answers (A) to my original responses that you marked as (Q). My new responses will be marked as (Q2)

Q: The new security protocol was that people only get buzzed in after 9:30. Look it up.

A: All the more easy for the lookout/cleaner to get into the building before the incident. And the official story isn't he was buzzed in, it was that he shot out the front glass and entered that way.

Q2: Granted, you did say "likely buzzed in", and you are right it would be easier if there was no buzzer before 9:30, but my point is you didn't even investigate and discover the security protocols in place before theorizing.

Q: After 9:30 No other main doors in the building could open without alerting the office secretary who monitors the security panel.

A: Oh you mean the office that was the first place to get shot up (by op 1)? Ya I somehow don't think the secretary would care about the security panel when he/she is being shot at.

Q2: True, but see my next "Q2" answer below.

Q: All the action occurred between 15-75 feet MAX of the front entrance. The office, the first grade classrooms, the gym, all right there. They would never risk letting someone in the back door wearing combat clothing and a mask, just to walk all the way through the school to do shooting at the front of the school.

A: You must of missed what I was saying because you have it backwards. Op 1 shoots way in front. Lookout opens back door for OP 2 + patsy. OP 1 shoots at front office and then meets up with OP 2 which at the same time is shooting up the 1st classroom. Noone at the school "let" a masked gunman in the building willingly... the only door opened willingly was the back entrance which was opened by an inside man...

Q2: I didn't miss it. First, they would have to keep the rear door ajar, in order to enter at the signal. This would have kept the security panel light lit the entire time until OP 1 blew the front door.


Further more, it is just too dangerous to have 2 men decked out with camo and long guns over their shoulders to approach the rear doors of the building from ANY direction (parking lot or the woods) because if you look at the terrain, they would have been spotted easily from ANY angle of approach, through the windows by A teacher or student in SOME classroom OR OTHER)

Q:For example, you wrote "Meanwhile operative 2 (the one that forces his way through the front door) makes his way through the school to meet up with the other operative"

If you had checked the schematic, you would have realized they would have been standing within about 25 feet of each other once the entrance was breached.

A: I didn't say it was a long distance... the key point to notice here is the distance from the front to the back isn't very large but also insn't a clear line of sight path... meaning if the good cops covering the front door don't actually go "INSIDE" the school then they cant see the op's + patsy in the back (again the point is its not a long distance but also isn't a clear line of sight).

Q2: Already covered.

Q: The on duty police officers is a huge stretch. Not saying Local cops could'nt be bought off for a few million a piece, but wow, it is just too risky. They make LOTS of money in a town like that.

A: "Because some people don't want money... some people just want to watch the world burn".

Q2: Hard to believe more than one cop from a local force in an idyllic town would be that psychotic as to willingly slaughter little toddlers. More likely someone dressed as one as per your theory who was willing to take the chance to blend in knowing that the response would be multiple jurisdictions and he might not be noticed right away.

Q: Adam definitely had help, if he did any shooting at all.

After all, the officer on scene in the interior states that they found multiple weapons, LONG RIFLES (PLURAL) and a shotgun.

A: Go figure the cop on the scene apparently standing over the body miscounts the AR's and stats a weapon is there when it isn't (and then that exact weapon is found 12 hours later in Adams trunk)... honestly the paid off cop thing sounds to far fetched? really? rethink about this point please.

Q2: I think any op dressed as a cop would be very sure to keep moving until he found a way to get outside blend in and walk away. I doubt he would stick out after enough killing was done to make the point, by dithering on the scene. But it is possible. OP 1 would have had a shotgun and could have had an AR strapped to his back, and just dropped the shotgun he used near the office, then gone into the classroom Adam was in, Shot him, dropped his AR on the ground next to Adam's body along side the AR that Adam carried in, left a couple pistols there and kept one in his holster.

Viola. A responding officer sees a shotgun laying in front of the office, walks 30 feet into the first grade classroom and sees 2 AR's and 2 pistols.

Of course he would be one of the many officers who would know that something stinks about the official story.

Q: NO way in hell Adam Lanza carried An AR-15, an Enfield Rifle, a shotgun, and 2 9mm pistols, including ammo.

A: Official story is 4 weapons. AR, 2 pistols & a shotgun (found later in trunk). The kid was ~100lbs... not a strapping young man by any sense... I doubt that kid could carry all that stuff 10 feet if he had to, let alone while wearing body armor, and a mask which would restrict breathing, while shooting a high powered shotgun to blow out the reinforced security glass at the front entrance... as I said its all bullshit. 2 guns in the front, 2 in the back... none of which Adam ever touched.

Q2: NO, there is NO "OFFICIAL" story on the guns. You won't find any official statement as to the TOTAL AND TYPE of guns made by the State police LT at a press conference.
At different times, he acknowledged "pistols" and a Bushmaster .223.

All other gun reports are the dozens of different accounts that made it into news stories over 2 days.

The best actual evidence we have is

1. what the officer on the scanner relates, (long rifles and shotgun)
2. the helicopter showing the semi-auto shotgun in the trunk.

The 2 pistols are "likely" since their mention was repeated often and early on in news reports. As is the Bushmaster AR-15

And there were a few reports a .45 Henry repeating rifle, a .30 Enfield rifle, and a .22 Marlin rifle, which is why I chose to use the enfield as an example of one of the long rifles mentioned in the scanner report.


Q: More research to be done but this isn't over.

A: That I will agree with.
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Not buying it... Sounds totally different than all the other voices... Almost clearer even though its quieter... I think this has been doctored.., definitely some fuckery going on. Besides who talks like that? This isn't some 19th century novel, if you were in hostile black op mission, you would say it as fast as possible, for example "take Adam down" not as its been led to believe "take the life of Adam". Bullshit.
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Yeah...I just don't buy it.

I mean that kind of a mistake....thinking out loud on a hot mic...is a quite a stretch, especially for a specially trained so-called black op cop.
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Let me ask you something... if you just were part of a secret black op mission to kill children, that's outcome was still undecided, and you just finished planting a shotgun used in the crime in a patsy's car, minutes after knowing 2 classrooms of children were shot to death which you assisted in, and didn't know if the patsy was dead or alive still, and your 2 accomplices are unreachable by foot without drawing attention to the back entrance of the school (again where all the action is which would blow the whole op) and want to make a last ditch effort to find out "am I going to jail today or not"... cuz it really depends how smoothly this op goes. With all that happening you honestly cant see someone making a mistake. You must think these people are gods or something that are totally incapable of making an error... bad assumption.
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The garbling you often heard was encrypted walkies being used on that line. Basically, only walkies programmed to decrypt the message hear it normally. All others would hear the garbled message we heard. The sensitive info is in those encrypted messages.

Everyone and their grandma practically knows how to listen to scanner feeds over the web now. Criminals have been using scanners for intel and edge for decades. So of course certain cops involved in looking for shooters would be on the encrypted walkies.

If some audio genius can decrypt those, there will be a lot of heavy info in there. Perhaps the black-OP was using the line with encryptions.
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Also, since it's the regular police scanner, aren't they taking a huge chance on getting caught?????
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Worth the risk when you think about the alternative... which was the good cops finding Adam still alive...

Sending a message like this over a police channel might throw a wrench into the plan, but the patsy living throws the whole thing damn near overboard.
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Well the alternative would be having a better plan for signaling in the first place. Any audible at all which could have been put in place by the "black op cops" This whole thing of someone ordering the killing of Adam by saying "end the life of Adam" over the police frequency makes ZERO sense.

When was the last time you saw a quarterback at the line yell.."OK JONES YOU RUN THAT WAY...AND SMITH YOU RUN THE OTHER WAY AND I'LL THROW THE BALL TO YOU" I mean c'mon guys...you mean football players have a better grasp of the benefits of codes more than these "black op cops"?
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He said "a little late for that".

Not "end the life of Adam"

Anyway, there would have been no need to signal anyone when to end Adam's life. Zero. Zilch.

Think about it.

Amateurs. No offense.

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