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Real Doom Potential Today -- Cliff Talks Disintegrate, DOW Futures in the Tank

 
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[link to www.zerohedge.com]

It may not be apparent immediately, but in the aftermath of last night's epic collapse in fiscal cliff negotiations, which incidentally was perfectly obvious to anyone with half a brain and who experienced last summer's debt ceiling fiasco, which sadly excludes all paid political and financial - including sellside - commentators, all of whom expected a prompt resolution to this polarized issue as recently as a week ago, there is major behind the scenes panic.

... more at link
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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Re: Real Doom Potential Today -- Cliff Talks Disintegrate, DOW Futures in the Tank
... Reality finally penetrating through the market's thick skull of complacency has meant a decline virtually around the globe in all asset classes: Asian equities have been volatile but are trading weaker led by a 0.85% drop in the Hang Seng while 10yr UST yields have rallied 4bps to 1.756% as we go to print. Gold continues to underperform and is down to $1642/oz (-0.3%) overnight and is poised to finish lower for four straight sessions in its longest losing streak in more than 2 months.

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Re: Real Doom Potential Today -- Cliff Talks Disintegrate, DOW Futures in the Tank
Dow futures currently at -163

Dow Fair Value -137.72
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"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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Re: Real Doom Potential Today -- Cliff Talks Disintegrate, DOW Futures in the Tank
Don't sell your beans & preps just yet.

The world may not end but S has a strong potential for a regional smacking of the fan.
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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I was starting to think we'd never get our econo-doom. Never underestimate their ability to kick the can, but this might just have some legs. Not getting excited until after it happens, though.

Mornin', Professor Smith. If I don't see you again before Tuesday, have a very Merry Christmas.
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Index Future Future Date Last Net Change Open High Low Time
DJIA INDEX Mar13 13,104.00 -163.00
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[link to www.zerohedge.com]

It may not be apparent immediately, but in the aftermath of last night's epic collapse in fiscal cliff negotiations, which incidentally was perfectly obvious to anyone with half a brain and who experienced last summer's debt ceiling fiasco, which sadly excludes all paid political and financial - including sellside - commentators, all of whom expected a prompt resolution to this polarized issue as recently as a week ago, there is major behind the scenes panic.

... more at link
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Is that really you in that avatar?
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I was starting to think we'd never get our econo-doom. Never underestimate their ability to kick the can, but this might just have some legs. Not getting excited until after it happens, though.

Mornin', Professor Smith. If I don't see you again before Tuesday, have a very Merry Christmas.
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Morning, Rev!!

hf


To be honest with you, we need this to recalibrate our gov's priorities & slow/cease the spending insanity.

Yes, the process will suck but the end result, I hope, will be a return to a sane state where 50% of the population is no longer enslaved to produce for the other 50% & fund insane gov expenditures such as policing the world & supporting/paying off other countries.
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

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"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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[link to www.zerohedge.com]

It may not be apparent immediately, but in the aftermath of last night's epic collapse in fiscal cliff negotiations, which incidentally was perfectly obvious to anyone with half a brain and who experienced last summer's debt ceiling fiasco, which sadly excludes all paid political and financial - including sellside - commentators, all of whom expected a prompt resolution to this polarized issue as recently as a week ago, there is major behind the scenes panic.

... more at link
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Is that really you in that avatar?
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I NEVER show my face.

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Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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[link to www.zerohedge.com]

It may not be apparent immediately, but in the aftermath of last night's epic collapse in fiscal cliff negotiations, which incidentally was perfectly obvious to anyone with half a brain and who experienced last summer's debt ceiling fiasco, which sadly excludes all paid political and financial - including sellside - commentators, all of whom expected a prompt resolution to this polarized issue as recently as a week ago, there is major behind the scenes panic.

... more at link
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Is that really you in that avatar?
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I NEVER show my face.

St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands.
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Well then, you're a very pretty lady. xmas
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Re: Real Doom Potential Today -- Cliff Talks Disintegrate, DOW Futures in the Tank
I was starting to think we'd never get our econo-doom. Never underestimate their ability to kick the can, but this might just have some legs. Not getting excited until after it happens, though.

Mornin', Professor Smith. If I don't see you again before Tuesday, have a very Merry Christmas.
 Quoting: ReVbo™


Morning, Rev!!

hf


To be honest with you, we need this to recalibrate our gov's priorities & slow/cease the spending insanity.

Yes, the process will suck but the end result, I hope, will be a return to a sane state where 50% of the population is no longer enslaved to produce for the other 50% & fund insane gov expenditures such as policing the world & supporting/paying off other countries.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Absolutely. We've needed a reset for a long time. Putting off the inevitable will only make the crash that much worse. Time to get the hell on with it.
Rev. 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
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Re: Real Doom Potential Today -- Cliff Talks Disintegrate, DOW Futures in the Tank
You might have enough time to make this cute Dow Plunger Pals Holiday craft if you get started now!

Bring whimsy to your holiday decor with this Santa and his trusty elf. Thanks to plungers for shoes they stand surefooted wherever they're displayed.

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Trademark of The Dow Chemical Company ("Dow") or an affiliated company of Dow.


Santa & Elf Plunger Pals
Designed By: Barbara Matthiessen

Typical Project Completion Time: 1 day
(does not include drying time)

Santa
Elf

MATERIALS NEEDED:
STYROFOAM* Brand Foam:
Balls: 6", one for Santa; 3-1/2", one for elf
Block, 2" x 2" x 2"

Other Materials for Santa:
Standard household plungers, two
8" plastic flowerpot, one
Gloss enamel paints: black; holiday rose; hot rod red; white
7" x 9" chalkboard
Wood: 5/8" plug; 1" x 24" slat, one each
Child-size clothing: Size 10 boy's red plaid pajamas; black mittens, one pair; red socks, one pair
White shoelaces, one pair
Unbleached muslin, 20" square
45" white plush felt, 1 yd.
1-1/2" red ribbon, 2/3 yd.
Black soutache cord, 2/3 yd.
Polyester fiberfill, small amount
White chenille yarn, approx. 1/2 skein
1/2" gold jingle bell, one
Miniature Christmas lights
Wood stain (optional)

Other Materials for Elf:
11" mini household plungers (or drain openers), two
6" white or green plastic flowerpot, one
Gloss enamel paints: beachcomber beige; black; holiday rose; hot rod red; real green; white
Child-size clothing: red sock, one (reserved from Santa); red stocking cap, one
Cotton fabric: unbleached muslin, 14" square; red/green Christmas pinstripe, 1/4 yd.
Ribbon: 1/8" green, 3 yd.; 1/4" green, 20"; 1/4" red, 1 yd.
Polyester fiberfill, small amount
Brown wavy doll hair
White craft foam, 3" x 6"
1/2" gold jingle bells, three
Gold foil gift wrap, 8" square
Green curling ribbon

Other Tools:
1-1/2" wood screws with metal washers, four
16-gauge wire
Fabric glue
Wire cutters
Drill with small bit
Screwdriver
Awl or ice pick
Sewing needle and matching thread
Pencil
Scissors
Tape measure
Compass
Tape: masking; transparent
Fine-line black permanent marking pen
Paintbrushes: 1" foam; medium flat; small round
Paper towels
Disposable palette
8" cardboard square
Small household sponge
Rubber band


Download pattern (8K pdf)





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the only doom of voncern is your ability post w. dranmatic bs lies about todays mrket which isnt even open yet.
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[link to www.zerohedge.com]

It may not be apparent immediately, but in the aftermath of last night's epic collapse in fiscal cliff negotiations, which incidentally was perfectly obvious to anyone with half a brain and who experienced last summer's debt ceiling fiasco, which sadly excludes all paid political and financial - including sellside - commentators, all of whom expected a prompt resolution to this polarized issue as recently as a week ago, there is major behind the scenes panic.

... more at link
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Is that really you in that avatar?
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I NEVER show my face.

St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Well then, you're a very pretty lady. xmas
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Awww! Thanks, but I have a really hideous face with a bulbous nose. hence, why I never show it.

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Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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Re: Real Doom Potential Today -- Cliff Talks Disintegrate, DOW Futures in the Tank
You might have enough time to make this cute Dow Plunger Pals Holiday craft if you get started now!

Bring whimsy to your holiday decor with this Santa and his trusty elf. Thanks to plungers for shoes they stand surefooted wherever they're displayed.

*
Trademark of The Dow Chemical Company ("Dow") or an affiliated company of Dow.


Santa & Elf Plunger Pals
Designed By: Barbara Matthiessen

Typical Project Completion Time: 1 day
(does not include drying time)

Santa
Elf

MATERIALS NEEDED:
STYROFOAM* Brand Foam:
Balls: 6", one for Santa; 3-1/2", one for elf
Block, 2" x 2" x 2"

Other Materials for Santa:
Standard household plungers, two
8" plastic flowerpot, one
Gloss enamel paints: black; holiday rose; hot rod red; white
7" x 9" chalkboard
Wood: 5/8" plug; 1" x 24" slat, one each
Child-size clothing: Size 10 boy's red plaid pajamas; black mittens, one pair; red socks, one pair
White shoelaces, one pair
Unbleached muslin, 20" square
45" white plush felt, 1 yd.
1-1/2" red ribbon, 2/3 yd.
Black soutache cord, 2/3 yd.
Polyester fiberfill, small amount
White chenille yarn, approx. 1/2 skein
1/2" gold jingle bell, one
Miniature Christmas lights
Wood stain (optional)

Other Materials for Elf:
11" mini household plungers (or drain openers), two
6" white or green plastic flowerpot, one
Gloss enamel paints: beachcomber beige; black; holiday rose; hot rod red; real green; white
Child-size clothing: red sock, one (reserved from Santa); red stocking cap, one
Cotton fabric: unbleached muslin, 14" square; red/green Christmas pinstripe, 1/4 yd.
Ribbon: 1/8" green, 3 yd.; 1/4" green, 20"; 1/4" red, 1 yd.
Polyester fiberfill, small amount
Brown wavy doll hair
White craft foam, 3" x 6"
1/2" gold jingle bells, three
Gold foil gift wrap, 8" square
Green curling ribbon

Other Tools:
1-1/2" wood screws with metal washers, four
16-gauge wire
Fabric glue
Wire cutters
Drill with small bit
Screwdriver
Awl or ice pick
Sewing needle and matching thread
Pencil
Scissors
Tape measure
Compass
Tape: masking; transparent
Fine-line black permanent marking pen
Paintbrushes: 1" foam; medium flat; small round
Paper towels
Disposable palette
8" cardboard square
Small household sponge
Rubber band


Download pattern (8K pdf)




INSTRUCTIONS:
Santa
1. Paint flowerpot red and let dry.
2. Wrap muslin square tightly around foam ball for head. Smooth any wrinkles from face area and then secure excess muslin with a sewing needle and doubled thread. Stitch back and forth through gathered fabric several times until secure; knot thread and trim.
3. Dip wood end of paintbrush handle in black paint to dot eyes 1/2" apart on center of face. Using rose, paint wood plug and drybrush 1-1/2" circles for Santa's cheeks. Allow to dry.
4. Cut legs from pajama bottoms 12" from waistband for knickers. Note: Reserve pajama legs. Trim side seams from knickers until waistband measures 20" across. With fabric right sides together, glue sides using 1/2" seam allowance. Let dry and then turn. Position plungers side by side and place knickers on wood handles (see photo). Glue waistband to top of handles, gathering fabric as needed.
5. For shoes, unscrew rubber plungers from handles. Mark three dots in a vertical row on each plunger, evenly spaced 1" apart. Mark a second row 1" to right of first row. Use awl or ice pick to poke holes at dots for shoelace eyelets. Lace shoelaces through holes and tie in small bows at top. Cut foot portion from each red sock and then slide cuffs onto bottom of wood handles. Note: Reserve sock feet for elf. Screw rubber plunger shoes onto bottom of handle legs.
6. Cut two 26" lengths of wire for arms. Bend each wire in half, shaping a loop at center for hands. Turn flowerpot body upside-down. Insert wire ends through drainage hole and pull approx. 5" to inside, leaving 8" arms on outside. Bend wires in large loops on inside to secure.
7. Place upside-down flowerpot body on top of wood handle legs. Drill vertically through pot and into top of each handle. Slide a washer on each screw and then drive screws into handles, securing body to legs.
8. Lightly stuff each mitten with fiberfill and place on wire loop hands. Cut two 8" x 6" rectangles from pajama fabric. Glue 6" edges right sides together to form two tubes. Let dry and turn. Place sleeve tubes on wire arms. Gather fabric at top of each sleeve with your fingers and then tightly tie with a 6" length of black cord. Glue gathered end of sleeves to top of pot. Tuck opposite ends inside mittens. Cut two 7" x 2" strips of plush felt. Glue strips centered over bottom of sleeves and top of mittens, overlapping ends on inside of arm next to body.
9. Measure height of flowerpot. Using this measurement, cut a 3" wide strip from pajama fabric. Glue strip vertically to center front of pot. Cut a 30" x 2-1/2" strip and a 9" circle of white plush felt. Glue felt strip around bottom of flowerpot, overlapping ends at center back. Glue circle to top of pot for collar.
10. Glue muslin-covered head to top of flowerpot; glue rose wood plug to face for nose. Wrap yarn around 8" cardboard square 18 times. Use scrap of yarn to tie off yarn at center front of cardboard; do not trim. Carefully slide loops from cardboard and then wrap center tie around remainder of wraps. Glue center of yarn bundle just below nose for a mustache. Wrap yarn around cardboard 100 times for beard. Tie off yarn at edge of cardboard. Slide loops from cardboard and glue tied end just under center of mustache for beard.
11. Cut cardboard in half. Wrap yarn widthwise around one 4" x 8" rectangle. Make two yarn bundles with 12 wraps and one with six wraps, tying each off at edge of cardboard. Glue longer bundles to sides of face for hair and shorter bundle to top for bangs.
12. For hat, measure circumference at cut end of a reserved pajama leg. Using this measurement plus 1/2", cut a 1-1/2 wide strip of plush felt. Glue felt around raw edge, overlapping ends. Glue hat on Santa's head with felt trim just above his eyes. String jingle bell centered on 12" length of black cord. Wrap cord around top of hat and tie in small bow on front to close.
13. Using photo as a guide, paint "Just Say Ho!" on chalkboard with white. If desired, apply stain to chalkboard frame and wood slat and let dry. Glue Christmas lights around chalkboard frame. Tie a small red ribbon bow and glue to center bottom of frame. Glue wood slat vertically to back of chalkboard, letting one end peek above top of sign and opposite end extend at bottom for post. Wrap a mitten around post to hold sign.
Elf
1. Unscrew rubber plungers from wood handles. Paint wood handles and flowerpot green. Sponge paint rubber plungers red, applying additional coats as needed until opaque. Let dry after each coat.
2. Cut red ribbon in half. Spiral-wrap a red ribbon around each green handle and glue to secure (see photo). Screw rubber plungers onto bottom of handles for elf's legs and shoes. Cut two 18" lengths of 1/8" green ribbon. String a bell on center of each ribbon. Wrap ribbon around top of each rubber plunger and tie in a small bow, positioning bells at front.
3. Follow Steps 2-3 of Santa to cover 3-1/2" foam ball with muslin, to dot eyes, and to paint 1-1/8" circle cheeks.
4. Using pattern, cut ears from white craft foam just inside traced outlines. Paint foam beige and allow to dry. Draw detail lines with black marking pen, reversing direction of one ear. Glue ears to opposite sides of head 1/2" from cheeks (see photo). Glue curly doll hair framing top and sides of face in front of ears. Note: Remainder of head will be covered by hat.
5. Follow Step 6 of Santa to form wire arms, using two 20" lengths of wire. Lightly stuff sock feet reserved from Santa and place over loop ends of wire arms for mittens. Tightly gather tops of socks around wire arms and then tack with needle and thread, using same method as for muslin head.
6. Cut two 6 x 7-1/2" rectangles of Christmas fabric with pinstripes running lengthwise. Glue 7-1/2" edges right sides together to form two tubes. Let dry and turn. Place sleeve tubes on wire arms. Tuck and glue top of mittens inside bottom of sleeves. Wrap 1/8" green ribbon around each sleeve 1" from the bottom and tie in small bows, forming ruffled cuffs. Gather fabric at top of each sleeve with your fingers and then tightly tie with 1/8" green ribbon. Glue gathered end of sleeves to top of pot.
7. Glue muslin-covered head to top of pot. Cut a 45" x 3-1/2" strip of Christmas fabric with pinstripes running widthwise. Wrap strip around neck for collar with ends at center back and then place rubber band over fabric to temporarily secure. Arrange gathers evenly, positioning 1-1/4" of fabric above rubber band. Wrap 1/8" green ribbon over rubber band and tie in small bow at center front. Cut Vs in ribbon ends. Carefully cut and remove rubber band.
8. Arrange and glue stocking cap to elf's head. String a jingle bell on center of 1/4" green ribbon. Wrap ribbon around tip of hat and tie in a small bow.
9. Wrap foam block with gold foil and tie with curling ribbon. Glue mini gift package between elf's mittens.

Form No. 179-01094

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Dot, I think you meant this for another thread.

Cute idea though.

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the only doom of voncern is your ability post w. dranmatic bs lies about todays mrket which isnt even open yet.
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Oh look!!!

Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the dog house!!!

Don't you understand that futures trade all night long & that there is a market open somewhere in the world at pretty much all times?

Get thineself to a basic finance class, then come back to chat with the grown-ups -- or better yet, shut-up, listen & learn something -- okay????

Last Edited by Lady Jane Smith on 12/21/2012 08:31 AM
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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the only doom of voncern is your ability post w. dranmatic bs lies about todays mrket which isnt even open yet.
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Oh look!!!

Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the dog house!!!

Don't you understand that futures trade all night long & that there is a market open somewhere in the world at pretty much all times?

Get thineself to a basic finance class, then come back to chat with the grown-ups -- or better yet, shut-up, listen & learn something -- okay????
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LJS is just keeping us informed.
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The Mayan's were right! ;)

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the fall off the cliff will be cushioned by some of the millions of useless resource suckers in america.

history teaches us that after the plague wiped out 30 % of the eurotrash all the survivors experienced a tremendous improvement in standards of living . Just think you could be the one to claim hundreds if not thousands of acres of free productive land , like the ancestors of some of the currently richest euro trash families did.
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A Goldman Suxx puppet heads to the bunker:

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The Mayan's were right! ;)

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I must admit that it is interesting that this trigger was hit on 12-21-12.


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Futures dropping further

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To be honest with you, we need this to recalibrate our gov's priorities & slow/cease the spending insanity.

This will simply not happen because the problem is not economics. It looks like it is but it is not.
Our problem is geophysical in nature.
They are driving down the economy so we would be more docile for when the nature shows us its strength.
The economy will be driven to the ground in less than 4 years.
Police state after that.
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The B in plan B stands for Broken

America chose to stay Broken........and broke.

Goodbye Recovery--Hello Recession.
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The B in plan B stands for Broken

America chose to stay Broken........and broke.

Goodbye Recovery--Hello Recession.
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Good morning, Koffee!!

Honestly, there is no way to repair this, too much long term damage.

A painful reset is the only thing that will work.
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DJIA INDEX Mar13 13,088.00 -180.00
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The Mayan's were right! ;)

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Yup, they predicted that the US would be run into the ground by a bunch of Yahoos.
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Re: Real Doom Potential Today -- Cliff Talks Disintegrate, DOW Futures in the Tank
fiscal cliff is a hoax DOW is rigged to support hoax

fish kill hoax means they gonna tax the christians to death
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The B in plan B stands for Broken

America chose to stay Broken........and broke.

Goodbye Recovery--Hello Recession.
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Good morning, Koffee!!

Honestly, there is no way to repair this, too much long term damage.

A painful reset is the only thing that will work.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


There must be a reckoning and since our idiot politicians can't do anything about it, the Invisible Hand will do it for them. I, for one, can't wait. Been expecting this for five years.


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Re: Real Doom Potential Today -- Cliff Talks Disintegrate, DOW Futures in the Tank
We could change our form of goverment and reneg on all outstanding debt.

the chinese told the holders of nationalist bonds to go suck shit after the commies took over.

if they did it we can too

its the job of congress to affix the price of currency, they could have coins stamped out worth a trillion dollars each and pay off the illegal and immoral private investors of the federal reserve , today.
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Dow futures currently at -163

Dow Fair Value -137.72
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


It's funny how often folks on here claim the Dow is BS, until it does something vaguely big, and then it's serious doom...

Give me a break...

Let them go over the cliff, let discretionary military spending be cut, let the Dems write a middle class tax cut that the GOPers reject, let the GOPers write a millionaire tax cut which the Dems reject, then, in 12 months, when we start the midterms election cycle, let the GOP lose the House.

Then when those extremists, who are finally polling as the extremists they actually are, have finally destroyed the GOP, let a REAL mainstream conservative alternative emerge.

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