NRA Press Conference 11am Live From Whinington Dc (Transcript/Video pg 1 & 8) | |
| Floobarb the Argnorf User ID: 26218433 12/21/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Folks your missing the forest through the trees. Yes, they will continue their push to take away our second amendment rights, but this theatre we are now witnessing is intended to sell the idea of FEDERAL POLICE further infiltrating state society via out schools. I promise, We do NOT want the federal government (particularly Homeland Security) in our schools at this level, and should be screaming no at the top of our lungs over the very hint of it. Quoting: SaveUSa I think here's someone who got it.. Wow you people dont know how to listen do you. #1. Asa Hutchinson did NOT say they planned to INVOLVE Homeland Security. He prefaced remarkes with "and some things I learned during my time at Homeland Security". #2. He said their plan did not necessarily burden local police budgets and eluded to using qualified VOLUNTEERS to act as security. Just like most crossing guards are VOLUNTEERS. This plan said NOTHING about creating or leveraging a federal police force. Get the wax out of your ears people. wait and see... do you really believe that volunteers and teachers will "play security" in such a sensitive case? will you trust them for your kids anyway? Yes I do. The proposed concept is simple. Think volunteer, like a crossing guard, but trained in firearms and security by the NRA program, by responsibile citizens including police, retired police, retired military etc. It's a simple concept. The Aluminated One |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30557855 12/21/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Folks your missing the forest through the trees. Yes, they will continue their push to take away our second amendment rights, but this theatre we are now witnessing is intended to sell the idea of FEDERAL POLICE further infiltrating state society via out schools. I promise, We do NOT want the federal government (particularly Homeland Security) in our schools at this level, and should be screaming no at the top of our lungs over the very hint of it. Quoting: SaveUSa I think here's someone who got it.. Wow you people dont know how to listen do you. #1. Asa Hutchinson did NOT say they planned to INVOLVE Homeland Security. He prefaced remarkes with "and some things I learned during my time at Homeland Security". #2. He said their plan did not necessarily burden local police budgets and eluded to using qualified VOLUNTEERS to act as security. Just like most crossing guards are VOLUNTEERS. This plan said NOTHING about creating or leveraging a federal police force. Get the wax out of your ears people. wait and see... do you really believe that volunteers and teachers will "play security" in such a sensitive case? will you trust them for your kids anyway? we can make a local militia just for this.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26735705 12/21/2012 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, this is just fucking great! Now we're gonna have Homeland security and TSA nude-scanners in our schools. Sandy Hook is sounding more and more like a false-flag operation...designed to turn our schools into a training ground for the fascist police state. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30557855 12/21/2012 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow you people dont know how to listen do you. #1. Asa Hutchinson did NOT say they planned to INVOLVE Homeland Security. He prefaced remarkes with "and some things I learned during my time at Homeland Security". #2. He said their plan did not necessarily burden local police budgets and eluded to using qualified VOLUNTEERS to act as security. Just like most crossing guards are VOLUNTEERS. This plan said NOTHING about creating or leveraging a federal police force. Get the wax out of your ears people. wait and see... do you really believe that volunteers and teachers will "play security" in such a sensitive case? will you trust them for your kids anyway? Yes I do. The proposed concept is simple. Think volunteer, like a crossing guard, but trained in firearms and security by the NRA program, by responsibile citizens including police, retired police, retired military etc. It's a simple concept. agree volunteer citizens well trained |
| =EkIm= Offer Upgrade User ID: 18606339 12/21/2012 11:53 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Folks your missing the forest through the trees. Yes, they will continue their push to take away our second amendment rights, but this theatre we are now witnessing is intended to sell the idea of FEDERAL POLICE further infiltrating state society via out schools. I promise, We do NOT want the federal government (particularly Homeland Security) in our schools at this level, and should be screaming no at the top of our lungs over the very hint of it. Quoting: SaveUSa I think here's someone who got it.. Wow you people dont know how to listen do you. #1. Asa Hutchinson did NOT say they planned to INVOLVE Homeland Security. He prefaced remarkes with "and some things I learned during my time at Homeland Security". #2. He said their plan did not necessarily burden local police budgets and eluded to using qualified VOLUNTEERS to act as security. Just like most crossing guards are VOLUNTEERS. This plan said NOTHING about creating or leveraging a federal police force. Get the wax out of your ears people. crossing guards are VOLUNTEERS? Not around here. They get paid. I know one.. |
| TheMainFrame New Within Order User ID: 29355840 12/21/2012 11:53 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolutely terrible speech! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25910886 Nothing like that will fire up the base. And another actor was escorted out. The NRA just attacked themselves in order to make themselves seem credible against left-wing loons. I was thinking the exact same thing. Mind-Programming.com - Psychology - Cognitive Science |
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| Floobarb the Argnorf User ID: 26218433 12/21/2012 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Folks your missing the forest through the trees. Yes, they will continue their push to take away our second amendment rights, but this theatre we are now witnessing is intended to sell the idea of FEDERAL POLICE further infiltrating state society via out schools. I promise, We do NOT want the federal government (particularly Homeland Security) in our schools at this level, and should be screaming no at the top of our lungs over the very hint of it. Quoting: SaveUSa I think here's someone who got it.. Wow you people dont know how to listen do you. #1. Asa Hutchinson did NOT say they planned to INVOLVE Homeland Security. He prefaced remarkes with "and some things I learned during my time at Homeland Security". #2. He said their plan did not necessarily burden local police budgets and eluded to using qualified VOLUNTEERS to act as security. Just like most crossing guards are VOLUNTEERS. This plan said NOTHING about creating or leveraging a federal police force. Get the wax out of your ears people. crossing guards are VOLUNTEERS? Not around here. They get paid. I know one.. In many, if not most places yes. They are volunteers. Same as fire departments in many small towns. The Aluminated One |
| Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 12/21/2012 11:54 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow you people dont know how to listen do you. #1. Asa Hutchinson did NOT say they planned to INVOLVE Homeland Security. He prefaced remarkes with "and some things I learned during my time at Homeland Security". #2. He said their plan did not necessarily burden local police budgets and eluded to using qualified VOLUNTEERS to act as security. Just like most crossing guards are VOLUNTEERS. This plan said NOTHING about creating or leveraging a federal police force. Get the wax out of your ears people. wait and see... do you really believe that volunteers and teachers will "play security" in such a sensitive case? will you trust them for your kids anyway? Yes I do. The proposed concept is simple. Think volunteer, like a crossing guard, but trained in firearms and security by the NRA program, by responsibile citizens including police, retired police, retired military etc. It's a simple concept. He called out the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to get involved through a National Security Shield program, or whatever he called it. What do you think would happen if the fedgov got involved??? They would most likely place it under Homeland Security. |
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| Floobarb the Argnorf User ID: 26218433 12/21/2012 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolutely terrible speech! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25910886 Nothing like that will fire up the base. And another actor was escorted out. The NRA just attacked themselves in order to make themselves seem credible against left-wing loons. I was thinking the exact same thing. It was a great speech. If you thought a fire brand, militant speech would have been more appropriate you would be sorely mistaken. It would have given the opposition more 'ammo'. This speech is exactly what was needed for right now, being their opening salvo into this fight. It will get more heated. The Aluminated One |
| SaveUSa User ID: 20038946 12/21/2012 11:56 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Folks your missing the forest through the trees. Yes, they will continue their push to take away our second amendment rights, but this theatre we are now witnessing is intended to sell the idea of FEDERAL POLICE further infiltrating state society via out schools. I promise, We do NOT want the federal government (particularly Homeland Security) in our schools at this level, and should be screaming no at the top of our lungs over the very hint of it. Quoting: SaveUSa I think here's someone who got it.. Wow you people dont know how to listen do you. #1. Asa Hutchinson did NOT say they planned to INVOLVE Homeland Security. He prefaced remarkes with "and some things I learned during my time at Homeland Security". #2. He said their plan did not necessarily burden local police budgets and eluded to using qualified VOLUNTEERS to act as security. Just like most crossing guards are VOLUNTEERS. This plan said NOTHING about creating or leveraging a federal police force. Get the wax out of your ears people. Others have been quite vocal in this regard though, and while the NRA may not be pitching this as a solution, they have not refuted it. In short, the "end goal" of the Feds I believe is to do just as I stated above. Pay attention to the overall rhetoric in the coming weeks, and I think you will agree. The Wax has been out of my ears for a very long time btw. Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth. |
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| TechRaider User ID: 8668963 12/21/2012 11:57 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy is CRAZY,everyone is to blame but semi-automatic guns! Quoting: Daveinspruce 29686733 Watching the NRA committing suicide on the world stage....priceless. ![]() Please Don't put a Canadian Flag Beside a RETARDED COMMENT Fuckin Back to horse and buggy for you. You are not ready for current technology. Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson |
| Floobarb the Argnorf User ID: 26218433 12/21/2012 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf Wow you people dont know how to listen do you. #1. Asa Hutchinson did NOT say they planned to INVOLVE Homeland Security. He prefaced remarkes with "and some things I learned during my time at Homeland Security". #2. He said their plan did not necessarily burden local police budgets and eluded to using qualified VOLUNTEERS to act as security. Just like most crossing guards are VOLUNTEERS. This plan said NOTHING about creating or leveraging a federal police force. Get the wax out of your ears people. wait and see... do you really believe that volunteers and teachers will "play security" in such a sensitive case? will you trust them for your kids anyway? Yes I do. The proposed concept is simple. Think volunteer, like a crossing guard, but trained in firearms and security by the NRA program, by responsibile citizens including police, retired police, retired military etc. It's a simple concept. He called out the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to get involved through a National Security Shield program, or whatever he called it. What do you think would happen if the fedgov got involved??? They would most likely place it under Homeland Security. He did not call out the Federal Governemnt to get involved with the program. He called on the Federal Government to promote the program by removing the gun bans in schools and fund the program as necessary. Last Edited by Floobarb the Argnorf on 12/21/2012 11:58 AM The Aluminated One |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4613981 12/21/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "A cop in every school" challenge is actually brilliant. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30549134 If any more school shootings take place, La Pierre can lay the blame directly on Obama for not acting on this simple plan. I'd bet you every dollar I own this guy is part of the "debt is too high" group...yet he wants armed police in every school in America? You have any idea how much that'd cost the federal government? Especially since I'm nearly certain local and state government won't want to fund the bill... He also made reference to trained "volunters". There isnt a school in this country that doesnt have a parent ,grandparent or sibling that is a veteran to which would gladly volunter. Case in point [link to www.wkrn.com] |
| Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 12/21/2012 12:00 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Ostria1 wait and see... do you really believe that volunteers and teachers will "play security" in such a sensitive case? will you trust them for your kids anyway? Yes I do. The proposed concept is simple. Think volunteer, like a crossing guard, but trained in firearms and security by the NRA program, by responsibile citizens including police, retired police, retired military etc. It's a simple concept. He called out the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to get involved through a National Security Shield program, or whatever he called it. What do you think would happen if the fedgov got involved??? They would most likely place it under Homeland Security. He did not call out the Federal Governemnt to get involved with the program. He called on the Federal Government to promote the program by removing the gun bans in schools and fund the program as necessary. There is a national gun ban in schools? No, I don't think that's true. I believe it depends on the school district as there are armed guards in some, Phen just mentioned Harrisburg and I know there were threads on the one in Butler area, PA where they just approved security guards to carry guns. And if you think the government wouldn't get involved but just shell out cash, that's crazy as they would definitely use this as a power grab. |
| Floobarb the Argnorf User ID: 26218433 12/21/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Folks your missing the forest through the trees. Yes, they will continue their push to take away our second amendment rights, but this theatre we are now witnessing is intended to sell the idea of FEDERAL POLICE further infiltrating state society via out schools. I promise, We do NOT want the federal government (particularly Homeland Security) in our schools at this level, and should be screaming no at the top of our lungs over the very hint of it. Quoting: SaveUSa I think here's someone who got it.. Wow you people dont know how to listen do you. #1. Asa Hutchinson did NOT say they planned to INVOLVE Homeland Security. He prefaced remarkes with "and some things I learned during my time at Homeland Security". #2. He said their plan did not necessarily burden local police budgets and eluded to using qualified VOLUNTEERS to act as security. Just like most crossing guards are VOLUNTEERS. This plan said NOTHING about creating or leveraging a federal police force. Get the wax out of your ears people. Others have been quite vocal in this regard though, and while the NRA may not be pitching this as a solution, they have not refuted it. In short, the "end goal" of the Feds I believe is to do just as I stated above. Pay attention to the overall rhetoric in the coming weeks, and I think you will agree. The Wax has been out of my ears for a very long time btw. The "end goal" of the current administration is to repeal the 2nd amendment and disarm all of us. Not to create a federal police. The disarm us all, they dont need a Federal Police. The Aluminated One |
| Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 12/21/2012 12:01 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "A cop in every school" challenge is actually brilliant. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30549134 If any more school shootings take place, La Pierre can lay the blame directly on Obama for not acting on this simple plan. I'd bet you every dollar I own this guy is part of the "debt is too high" group...yet he wants armed police in every school in America? You have any idea how much that'd cost the federal government? Especially since I'm nearly certain local and state government won't want to fund the bill... He also made reference to trained "volunters". There isnt a school in this country that doesnt have a parent ,grandparent or sibling that is a veteran to which would gladly volunter. Case in point [link to www.wkrn.com] How would these volunteers be vetted? There would be some type of federal program in place, at the least...but for some reason, I doubt that the government would let something like this pass them by as "they know best". |
| Floobarb the Argnorf User ID: 26218433 12/21/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf Yes I do. The proposed concept is simple. Think volunteer, like a crossing guard, but trained in firearms and security by the NRA program, by responsibile citizens including police, retired police, retired military etc. It's a simple concept. He called out the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to get involved through a National Security Shield program, or whatever he called it. What do you think would happen if the fedgov got involved??? They would most likely place it under Homeland Security. He did not call out the Federal Governemnt to get involved with the program. He called on the Federal Government to promote the program by removing the gun bans in schools and fund the program as necessary. There is a national gun ban in schools? No, I don't think that's true. I believe it depends on the school district as there are armed guards in some, Phen just mentioned Harrisburg and I know there were threads on the one in Butler area, PA where they just approved security guards to carry guns. And if you think the government wouldn't get involved but just shell out cash, that's crazy as they would definitely use this as a power grab. Yes, schools are "Gun free zones". He was calling on the federal government to change the laws to enable their program of armed security in schools to be possible. The Aluminated One |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27352798 12/21/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's what I think will happen. Because the Opresident has tapped Joe Biden to head up the investigatory committee to solve this problem, and Joe has invited several different groups to participate, it looks like they will probably try to make their efforts look like a balanced all-around approach. You know, fair share. So, they will ask the games/video "entertainment" industry to limit itself and label itself better. They will tell parents to monitor what games/videos their children are playing/watching. They will talk about forming a new TSA-type security for all schools, which will only take a year or two to implement. They will encourage neighborhood watches. They will form a new committee to develop more stringent mental health protection measures. And because they are sooooo concerned for the safety of the children, they will ban "assault rifles" and large ammo magazines. That way, everyone has done their fair share, see? It will make the gun owners look like heartless devils if they don't want to hand over their weapons, because gee we all have to pitch in and help. FORWARD!! |
| Floobarb the Argnorf User ID: 26218433 12/21/2012 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "A cop in every school" challenge is actually brilliant. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30549134 If any more school shootings take place, La Pierre can lay the blame directly on Obama for not acting on this simple plan. I'd bet you every dollar I own this guy is part of the "debt is too high" group...yet he wants armed police in every school in America? You have any idea how much that'd cost the federal government? Especially since I'm nearly certain local and state government won't want to fund the bill... He also made reference to trained "volunters". There isnt a school in this country that doesnt have a parent ,grandparent or sibling that is a veteran to which would gladly volunter. Case in point [link to www.wkrn.com] How would these volunteers be vetted? There would be some type of federal program in place, at the least...but for some reason, I doubt that the government would let something like this pass them by as "they know best". That what the NRA said thier program will be. The NRA is developing the security program and will vet and train the armed security personnel in accordance with whatever parts of the NRA program the local school board chooses to adopt. The Aluminated One |
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| Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 12/21/2012 12:04 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Laura Bow He called out the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to get involved through a National Security Shield program, or whatever he called it. What do you think would happen if the fedgov got involved??? They would most likely place it under Homeland Security. He did not call out the Federal Governemnt to get involved with the program. He called on the Federal Government to promote the program by removing the gun bans in schools and fund the program as necessary. There is a national gun ban in schools? No, I don't think that's true. I believe it depends on the school district as there are armed guards in some, Phen just mentioned Harrisburg and I know there were threads on the one in Butler area, PA where they just approved security guards to carry guns. And if you think the government wouldn't get involved but just shell out cash, that's crazy as they would definitely use this as a power grab. Yes, schools are "Gun free zones". He was calling on the federal government to change the laws to enable their program of armed security in schools to be possible. Schools may be "gun free zones" but the school districts already do have the option as to whether they can allow their security guards to be armed. |
| Corn Dog User ID: 28518686 12/21/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf Yes I do. The proposed concept is simple. Think volunteer, like a crossing guard, but trained in firearms and security by the NRA program, by responsibile citizens including police, retired police, retired military etc. It's a simple concept. agree volunteer citizens well trained I do recess volunteering. I wear a safety vest and a whistle. It is my duty to keep the children safe. I would be willing to take a specified course of their choosing to add another accessory to my safety outfit. *actually Phen linked a connections academy- it is something to study. |
| Ostria1 User ID: 29325791 12/21/2012 12:05 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well I m afraid you all think very simple and in good trust. I wouldnt trust anyone with a gun close to my child but i guess we have a very different culture. Lets hope this will work good for you. Quoting: Ostria1 You're a great example of why Greece is so headfucked. Ostria |
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| Laura Bow User ID: 1158661 12/21/2012 12:05 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29603155 I'd bet you every dollar I own this guy is part of the "debt is too high" group...yet he wants armed police in every school in America? You have any idea how much that'd cost the federal government? Especially since I'm nearly certain local and state government won't want to fund the bill... He also made reference to trained "volunters". There isnt a school in this country that doesnt have a parent ,grandparent or sibling that is a veteran to which would gladly volunter. Case in point [link to www.wkrn.com] How would these volunteers be vetted? There would be some type of federal program in place, at the least...but for some reason, I doubt that the government would let something like this pass them by as "they know best". That what the NRA said thier program will be. The NRA is developing the security program and will vet and train the armed security personnel in accordance with whatever parts of the NRA program the local school board chooses to adopt. I guess you're much more optimistic than I am about whether the federal government would be willing to fund something like this but not have a say. If there's a way to do it without involving fedgov though, that'd be awesome! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8282825 12/21/2012 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Universities have "Campus Police" or "Security"...maybe each school district could do something similar, aside from the many schools who have already had an armed local police officer on duty at the schools for many years. Each State has their own relationship with the Federal Government...they don't all do things the same way...laws and procedures vary from state to state...with public schools, most local parents and tax payers would have a say at the local level - that is what the school boards are for. |