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Jesus son of Mary IS the No. of the Beast?!

 
ibn Salama
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Jesus son of Mary IS the No. of the Beast?!
It may sound weird but I'll say it anyway..
I found a strange thing when studying The Book of Revelation regarding the infamous 666 number and its "other" interpretation (i.e. the manuscripts that say it's 616 not 666)
The Greek original text was written sometimes as: Chi-XI-Stigma
and sometimes Chi-Iota-Stigma
A huge debate surrounds the subject, even in the 2nd century!

Chi = 600 in Gematria
Xi = 60
Stigma = 6
Iota = 10

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That much is already known.
Some say it's Nero, others have different theories..
I'll introduce a new - to my knowledge - theory.



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This Hebrew name is famous and obviously well-known..
from right to left it reads:
HaMasheeh Yehushua ben Miriam
The Messiah Joshua son of Mary

And its numeral equivalent is 616.
It's 16 letters.
Use simple Hebrew Gematria to see for yourself!
Aleph is 1 , Bet is 2 , etc.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

But that isn't all!

We have two numbers: 666 & 616
Both of them were used to identify Nero
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I found that the Mean of these two numbers is 641
666+616 = 1282
1282\2 = 641

Why is this significant?
641 is the Gematria of the same phrase.. but in Arabic!


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Also 16 letters.

It is found in the Qur'an many times in this form.
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I will do more research, but what I can tell you now is that this 641 number has another meaning concerning Islam.
There are 641 Hijri years (Moon years of the Islamic calender) between the start of the A.D calendar & the year Prophet Muhammad left Mecca to Madina (i.e. The Hijra itself), which was 622 A.D
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Anonymous Coward
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12/21/2012 11:40 AM
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Re: Jesus son of Mary IS the No. of the Beast?!
Your first problem is: you're reading the Quran. It is a lie.

JESUS came and fulfilled all the prophecies. The purpose of every prophet before Jesus was to provide PROOF of who the Messiah would be.

Each and every prophet prophesied about just TWO things:

1. Events of their time. As these happened, the prophet was validated by God. We know their words are true.

2. The first and second coming of Jesus.

Those are the two things every single prophet spoke on: JESUS THE MESSIAH.

Anyone who came after that, and says Jesus is not the Messiah is a liar.

If you say Jesus was "only" a prophet, you are a liar, and worse, you call God a liar.

Here is an article on how many times Jesus said he is the Son of God, and how many, many other people also proclaimed this:

[link to manfrommodesto.hubpages.com]

All the people telling you Jesus is below Mohammed, do not know God.
Seer777
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12/21/2012 11:42 AM

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Re: Jesus son of Mary IS the No. of the Beast?!
616=12 around 1.

Jesus and his '12' disciples for example.

Jesus being '13'.



13=12+1

13=12+1
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12/21/2012 11:44 AM
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Re: Jesus son of Mary IS the No. of the Beast?!
Your second problem is:

You need to read the King James Version. It is not perfect, but it is far less corrupted than the NIV and ASV and the other Illuminati/ Satanist versions.

In those versions, the mistranslators intentionally confuse the descriptions of Satan and Jesus to be the same. There are many young people, who have never read the KJV, who read the ASV and NIV, who think God is a vicious God, and Jesus/Satan is the same dude.

That is also lies.

Satan is the father of lies.



Pray and pray and pray for God the FAther to reveal to you HIS MEANING.

Then you can be set free. It is only God who shows us this. But, first, you must choose God.

YOU MUST CHOOSE GOD ABOVE MEN.

For every man preaching the truth: God and love, there are 10,000 preaching the lies of men.

Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. That is his promise. Peace.
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Re: Jesus son of Mary IS the No. of the Beast?!
616=12 around 1.

Jesus and his '12' disciples for example.

Jesus being '13'.



13=12+1

:13=12+1:
 Quoting: Seer777


Jesus is not the 13th. Jesus is the first. Then, 12 disciples were added. In all accounts, Judas, the rebel, was added last.

13 is the number of rebellion.
Seer777
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Re: Jesus son of Mary IS the No. of the Beast?!
616=12 around 1.

Jesus and his '12' disciples for example.

Jesus being '13'.



13=12+1

13=12+1
 Quoting: Seer777


Jesus is not the 13th. Jesus is the first. Then, 12 disciples were added. In all accounts, Judas, the rebel, was added last.

13 is the number of rebellion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28997948


616

12 disciples + 1 Jesus= 13


Speaking of Judas, if it wasn't for his rumored betrayal, would Jesus have died on the 'cross' to 'save you'?

hmm
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12/21/2012 11:52 AM
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Re: Jesus son of Mary IS the No. of the Beast?!
Jesus is a mythical representation of the SUN, like every other trinity before him... Jesus does not exist and will not return home like at the end Of every movie that floggs Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey!

Jesus name has always been known to add up to 888, and the Roman Emperor Nero was the beast 666!

Everything the bible speaks about already happened thousands of years ago, it's not speaking to us about our future!
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12/21/2012 12:00 PM
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Re: Jesus son of Mary IS the No. of the Beast?!
144000/666 = ?

144000/1080 = ?

1080/666 = ?
ibn Salama (OP)

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12/22/2012 08:30 AM
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Re: Jesus son of Mary IS the No. of the Beast?!
You HAVE to think outside the Box!!
The information I wrote about in my OP is obvious and clear.
Ignoring the obvious is typical Christian behavior!
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12/22/2012 11:05 AM
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Re: Jesus son of Mary IS the No. of the Beast?!
Your first problem is: you're reading the Quran. It is a lie.

JESUS came and fulfilled all the prophecies. The purpose of every prophet before Jesus was to provide PROOF of who the Messiah would be.

Each and every prophet prophesied about just TWO things:

1. Events of their time. As these happened, the prophet was validated by God. We know their words are true.

2. The first and second coming of Jesus.

Those are the two things every single prophet spoke on: JESUS THE MESSIAH.

Anyone who came after that, and says Jesus is not the Messiah is a liar.

If you say Jesus was "only" a prophet, you are a liar, and worse, you call God a liar.

Here is an article on how many times Jesus said he is the Son of God, and how many, many other people also proclaimed this:

[link to manfrommodesto.hubpages.com]

All the people telling you Jesus is below Mohammed, do not know God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28997948


The bible is a lie hypocrite
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12/22/2012 11:10 AM
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Re: Jesus son of Mary IS the No. of the Beast?!
You HAVE to think outside the Box!!
The information I wrote about in my OP is obvious and clear.
Ignoring the obvious is typical Christian behavior!
 Quoting: ibn Salama


cruise why do you Muslims worship a God who boasts of being the "Greatest deceiver" in the quran?
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12/22/2012 11:24 AM
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Re: Jesus son of Mary IS the No. of the Beast?!
You HAVE to think outside the Box!!
The information I wrote about in my OP is obvious and clear.
Ignoring the obvious is typical Christian behavior!
 Quoting: ibn Salama


cruise why do you Muslims worship a God who boasts of being the "Greatest deceiver" in the quran?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22247988


Why do Christians worship a God who is so vengeful that he killed millions of people and permitted rape as long as you pay the father.And gambled with peoples lives as inn the story of Job making a deal with satan

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