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What a bunch of crap, OP.

Atheists use their eyes, their ears, their brain and thair common sense trying to understand the world / to form and comprehend (scientific) theories, and are also (very important) able to admit they doubt some things, and certain theories need to be changed during time.

The fact that relitards like you often come up with the word 'believe' when trying to judge atheists, shows you still don't get it.
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Yes but they do not use their God given God detector sense.
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Miracles?

[link to whywontgodhealamputees.com]

There's only 1 answer to that question, I hope you get it right.
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Atheist are already dead.. Why even worry about them?
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No,we are quite alive thank you.
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eternally dead
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Atheist are already dead.. Why even worry about them?
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Bcause they are God's creations!

C'monnn, read a little... we will be judged by how we treat each other...

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Prove your fairytale book by quoting fairytales from it. That's always a good way to argue your beliefs.
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Lets look at ATHEISTS who have died on the operating table or in car accidents.

Now lets look at Atheists who died like this but were revived, and said they 'saw something' 'while dead'.


Lets compare their stories and see if they are very very similar, or not:

Thread: Videos of HELL and ETERNAL DAMNATION


and the jury is in: The LORD will never forsake you.
 Quoting: nwo_watcher_911


And you believe EVERY single story you hear on the internet. And you believe every single You Tube video out there. If someone tells you that atheists saw hell, you immediately believe it is true because it supports your beliefs. But if a person of Islam faith would say they saw God and heaven, you WOULD NOT believe it because it does NOT support your faith or your beliefs. How convenient. And for your information, people who see things before they are dead do not count because they are not DEAD.
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Atheist are already dead.. Why even worry about them?
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No,we are quite alive thank you.
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My post is over your head bud, you're dead already.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27594769


Yeah sure. There have been a least a 1000 other posts just like yours on here, so not so original. Second, who cares. This is a conspiracy website. Aliens,Bigfoot, and the Illuminati are fair game here. Go peddle your religion somewhere else.
 Quoting: SeekWisdom


you dudes are really great examples of what you profess to represent... NOT...

there is ample proof for God and Creationism, let alone the existence of Jesus Christ and reason for His coming... research occult, satanism and former illuminati... research the people who show factually why evolution is a fraud...Walter Veith covers a lot of this...

loving each other and being forgiven because we are imperfect... think energetically and it makes sense...

:)
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Prove your fairytale book by quoting fairytales from it. That's always a good way to argue your beliefs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21495729


Lets look at ATHEISTS who have died on the operating table or in car accidents.

Now lets look at Atheists who died like this but were revived, and said they 'saw something' 'while dead'.


Lets compare their stories and see if they are very very similar, or not:

Thread: Videos of HELL and ETERNAL DAMNATION


and the jury is in: The LORD will never forsake you.
 Quoting: nwo_watcher_911


And you believe EVERY single story you hear on the internet. And you believe every single You Tube video out there. If someone tells you that atheists saw hell, you immediately believe it is true because it supports your beliefs. But if a person of Islam faith would say they saw God and heaven, you WOULD NOT believe it because it does NOT support your faith or your beliefs. How convenient. And for your information, people who see things before they are dead do not count because they are not DEAD.
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every single nothing... look for patterns from diverse sources...

Thread: Shaking Spears Consciousness--that's what's up... :)

:)
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For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.
 Quoting: jesus


This.

And if you really are Atheist, and you sincerely do want to know if there really is a GOD out there, reply here. I have a way where you can prove to yourself to know for sure that GOD is real, within 2 minutes.
 Quoting: nwo_watcher_911


I'm open minded. Go for it man.
 Quoting: SeekWisdom


Very good.

The key here is when one is considering, or, having considerations. When you consider something, your conscious inner voice gives you ideas or suggestions on how to proceed.

In our example we are going to consider doing something, and we are going to gauge what happens when we are considering it, by listening to our inner voice or conscious thoughts.

Are you ready??

Great!

Now, we are looking outside together at the sidewalk and the street. We notice a young college kid who is walking our way, and his face is down in his phone, so he doesn't really see us. You notice it is the new iPhone 5 with white headphones and all. You and I are broke and your other friend recently told you he has $500 for a iPhone 5.



So this is all it takes. If you do not have suggestions coming to you when thinking through this scenario, simply stand up, go outside, look at the street or sidewalk, and Consider robbing the next person you see for their shit. Don't actually do it - just stand there for a minute and consider it.


You will begin to notice ideas being pitched to you, while you are considering these things. Things like "i know i could get away with it" "I know i'm faster then him" "I know I can sell that" "I know I can xxxx"..

But let me ask you: Who in their right mind would ever consider committing strong armed robbery? Most criminal's parents say "my son would never do such a thing" and most rapists of 80yr old ladys also say the same thing "I would never do such a thing, I must have been out of my mind etc".


And there in lays the key:

The evil one is indeed like a snake, as portrayed in Genesis - and it works like this: Like a snake, he is able to weave in and out of your considerations, undetected. So alot of those suggestions which are pitched to you while considering something, they SEEM like they are your own and are coming only from you. You triple check to be sure, and yes, of course they are coming from you... right? But thats how quick and slick the evil one is: He is able to be out so fast, that you never knew he was even there. The 'criminal' is left holding the bag, while satan is long gone.

So that is one of the keys to this, and it can be tested by anybody - simply stand up, go outside, consider robbing the next person you see (but don't) and see what sort of thoughts come across while you are considering robbing them.

This in it's self is actually a crime, a felony, called 'laying in wait' and it is usually tied to murder, when one is waiting to murder someone. I wonder why this is a crime if they didn't actually commit murder.... ;)

So now you know. But there is more:

The LORD gave Man a gift called Free Choice - and it means that when presented with these things or considerations, you at the end still have to choose to follow through - its like being at a cross road.

When ever you are considering things, and the evil one is pitching to you, you are standing at The Crossroad. But The LORD is also at the Crossroad (as Jesus died on the cross) so He is there too, waiting for you to choose. The wages of Sin is death. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."



So there you have it. The LORD provided an exit strategy for me after 15 years of crime. Now I am living way better then before, my Benz is bigger, my girl is legit, my life and family are proud of me, and I am a beacon of hope to others who may be slipping between the cracks.

Recently, while having this very same debate, with myself while considering to 'rob somebody' (in order to test this concept I am presenting to you) I found myself debating the "what ifs" and the "ya but.." and I realized I was actually debating the Evil one, who was debating to me that I could get away with it - even though I would not get up off my computer chair.

When I finally told myself "Thats it! Thats how the devil works - like a snake who's able to weave in and out of each of your considerations - undetected" but something crazy happened next.

My internal voice was not mine this time,it was him and he was pissed. He said "SO? What are you going to do about it??"

Thats when I knew I hit the nail on the head with this shit. There was only 1 choice to make as the devil himself was calling me out.

I said I rebuke you in the Name of the Living God - and that's when The LORD came to comfort me. It was like instantly all evil was gone and my entire field of vision was blinded in super bright white in all directions. I knew I was at my computer chair, but I couldn't see 1cm infront of my face. Suddenly a feeling of overwhelming comfort, joy, love, happiness, and all those things but indescribably 100x more meaning full then what we give them meaning for - suddenly this feeling was in me and I felt like my best friend who I hadn't seen in 20+ years suddenly turned in the chair next to me, to stop in and say hi for 2 minutes. I still couldn't see nothing but white. It was The LORD because suddenly, I heard this bold and unmistakable voice and He told me He is to be called Lord.. The LORD, and that I need to Bring people to Him.

I nearly shatted and enjoyed His presence for about 1 min, and called to my girl in the next room to tell her what had just happened.

So there it is - The LORD is at each crossroad during each consideration, and teh devil is doing his job too, also likely part of The LORD's plan, to help separate the real shit from the bull shit.
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Prove your fairytale book by quoting fairytales from it. That's always a good way to argue your beliefs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21495729


Lets look at ATHEISTS who have died on the operating table or in car accidents.

Now lets look at Atheists who died like this but were revived, and said they 'saw something' 'while dead'.


Lets compare their stories and see if they are very very similar, or not:

Thread: Videos of HELL and ETERNAL DAMNATION


and the jury is in: The LORD will never forsake you.
 Quoting: nwo_watcher_911


And you believe EVERY single story you hear on the internet. And you believe every single You Tube video out there. If someone tells you that atheists saw hell, you immediately believe it is true because it supports your beliefs. But if a person of Islam faith would say they saw God and heaven, you WOULD NOT believe it because it does NOT support your faith or your beliefs. How convenient. And for your information, people who see things before they are dead do not count because they are not DEAD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


Find other videos of atheists who were clinically dead. There are more then just those 20, I promise.
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For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.
 Quoting: jesus


This.

And if you really are Atheist, and you sincerely do want to know if there really is a GOD out there, reply here. I have a way where you can prove to yourself to know for sure that GOD is real, within 2 minutes.
 Quoting: nwo_watcher_911


I'm open minded. Go for it man.
 Quoting: SeekWisdom


Very good.

The key here is when one is considering, or, having considerations. When you consider something, your conscious inner voice gives you ideas or suggestions on how to proceed.

In our example we are going to consider doing something, and we are going to gauge what happens when we are considering it, by listening to our inner voice or conscious thoughts.

Are you ready??

Great!

Now, we are looking outside together at the sidewalk and the street. We notice a young college kid who is walking our way, and his face is down in his phone, so he doesn't really see us. You notice it is the new iPhone 5 with white headphones and all. You and I are broke and your other friend recently told you he has $500 for a iPhone 5.



So this is all it takes. If you do not have suggestions coming to you when thinking through this scenario, simply stand up, go outside, look at the street or sidewalk, and Consider robbing the next person you see for their shit. Don't actually do it - just stand there for a minute and consider it.


You will begin to notice ideas being pitched to you, while you are considering these things. Things like "i know i could get away with it" "I know i'm faster then him" "I know I can sell that" "I know I can xxxx"..

But let me ask you: Who in their right mind would ever consider committing strong armed robbery? Most criminal's parents say "my son would never do such a thing" and most rapists of 80yr old ladys also say the same thing "I would never do such a thing, I must have been out of my mind etc".


And there in lays the key:

The evil one is indeed like a snake, as portrayed in Genesis - and it works like this: Like a snake, he is able to weave in and out of your considerations, undetected. So alot of those suggestions which are pitched to you while considering something, they SEEM like they are your own and are coming only from you. You triple check to be sure, and yes, of course they are coming from you... right? But thats how quick and slick the evil one is: He is able to be out so fast, that you never knew he was even there. The 'criminal' is left holding the bag, while satan is long gone.

So that is one of the keys to this, and it can be tested by anybody - simply stand up, go outside, consider robbing the next person you see (but don't) and see what sort of thoughts come across while you are considering robbing them.

This in it's self is actually a crime, a felony, called 'laying in wait' and it is usually tied to murder, when one is waiting to murder someone. I wonder why this is a crime if they didn't actually commit murder.... ;)

So now you know. But there is more:

The LORD gave Man a gift called Free Choice - and it means that when presented with these things or considerations, you at the end still have to choose to follow through - its like being at a cross road.

When ever you are considering things, and the evil one is pitching to you, you are standing at The Crossroad. But The LORD is also at the Crossroad (as Jesus died on the cross) so He is there too, waiting for you to choose. The wages of Sin is death. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."



So there you have it. The LORD provided an exit strategy for me after 15 years of crime. Now I am living way better then before, my Benz is bigger, my girl is legit, my life and family are proud of me, and I am a beacon of hope to others who may be slipping between the cracks.

Recently, while having this very same debate, with myself while considering to 'rob somebody' (in order to test this concept I am presenting to you) I found myself debating the "what ifs" and the "ya but.." and I realized I was actually debating the Evil one, who was debating to me that I could get away with it - even though I would not get up off my computer chair.

When I finally told myself "Thats it! Thats how the devil works - like a snake who's able to weave in and out of each of your considerations - undetected" but something crazy happened next.

My internal voice was not mine this time,it was him and he was pissed. He said "SO? What are you going to do about it??"

Thats when I knew I hit the nail on the head with this shit. There was only 1 choice to make as the devil himself was calling me out.

I said I rebuke you in the Name of the Living God - and that's when The LORD came to comfort me. It was like instantly all evil was gone and my entire field of vision was blinded in super bright white in all directions. I knew I was at my computer chair, but I couldn't see 1cm infront of my face. Suddenly a feeling of overwhelming comfort, joy, love, happiness, and all those things but indescribably 100x more meaning full then what we give them meaning for - suddenly this feeling was in me and I felt like my best friend who I hadn't seen in 20+ years suddenly turned in the chair next to me, to stop in and say hi for 2 minutes. I still couldn't see nothing but white. It was The LORD because suddenly, I heard this bold and unmistakable voice and He told me He is to be called Lord.. The LORD, and that I need to Bring people to Him.

I nearly shatted and enjoyed His presence for about 1 min, and called to my girl in the next room to tell her what had just happened.

So there it is - The LORD is at each crossroad during each consideration, and teh devil is doing his job too, also likely part of The LORD's plan, to help separate the real shit from the bull shit.
 Quoting: nwo_watcher_911



Fortunately, I never took to robbing and harming others, but thanks man--I broke a lot of other laws and finally figured out some of the same stuff...

it is consciousness... and we get played if we are not careful, in both big and small ways...

and Christ came to forgive us because the process is messy and we are not gonna be perfect in this part of creation...

:)

my thread of research:
Thread: Shaking Spears Consciousness--that's what's up... :)
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Prove your fairytale book by quoting fairytales from it. That's always a good way to argue your beliefs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21495729


Lets look at ATHEISTS who have died on the operating table or in car accidents.

Now lets look at Atheists who died like this but were revived, and said they 'saw something' 'while dead'.


Lets compare their stories and see if they are very very similar, or not:

Thread: Videos of HELL and ETERNAL DAMNATION


and the jury is in: The LORD will never forsake you.
 Quoting: nwo_watcher_911


And you believe EVERY single story you hear on the internet. And you believe every single You Tube video out there. If someone tells you that atheists saw hell, you immediately believe it is true because it supports your beliefs. But if a person of Islam faith would say they saw God and heaven, you WOULD NOT believe it because it does NOT support your faith or your beliefs. How convenient. And for your information, people who see things before they are dead do not count because they are not DEAD.
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Find other videos of atheists who were clinically dead. There are more then just those 20, I promise.
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So if I should assume that this is true and ALL atheists will be sent to hell for not believing in and worshiping your God, what does this say about YOUR God? Is he loving? What if a person is a good person, doesn't harm others, gives to the poor, but just has a hard time wrapping their brain around these stories of a God who punishes people eternally, a God that would make humans seem like angels because you won't find many people who would ever torment someone forever.

So if your God is the one true God, how do you know he loves you? If you read your Bible, you would see that he hated the Pharisess who followed all the laws. He told people that they had to follow all the laws and commandments and REPENT of ALL of their sins. If you leave some sins unrepented, how do you know that YOU won't be in hell?

Jesus tells people that the road is narrow and only a FEW get to heaven. How do you know that you are one of the few? Are you making some pretty big assumptions because all you hear in church today is how much God loves you? If you are believing this without studying the Bible yourself, maybe you had better be shaking in your shoes. Maybe a prostitute and a sinner would have a better chance of seeing heaven than you, at least that is what Jesus said. And I have read the Bible, obviously, you have not.
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"ATHEISTS BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY HAVE SEEN" and christians believe in what they ARE TOLD.

Nobody cares.

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WRONG.

HEBREWS 11
1 Now FAITH is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for,
the EVIDENCE of things not seen.

Atheists CANNOT see because they haven't the gift
of FAITH which is from God.

They also can never please God.

Unless they repent and seek God,
they will never know God, and will
be forever lost.

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No... atheists believe in REASON, not far-fetched fairy tails.
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No... atheists believe in REASON, not far-fetched fairy tails.
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evolution is THE most far-fetched fairy tail out there...

no science about it...

Evolution: The Biggest Lie Ever Sold (The Genes Of Genesis...

among others, this one on genes is quite good:

[link to www.youtube.com]

:)
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...


Lets look at ATHEISTS who have died on the operating table or in car accidents.

Now lets look at Atheists who died like this but were revived, and said they 'saw something' 'while dead'.


Lets compare their stories and see if they are very very similar, or not:

Thread: Videos of HELL and ETERNAL DAMNATION


and the jury is in: The LORD will never forsake you.
 Quoting: nwo_watcher_911


And you believe EVERY single story you hear on the internet. And you believe every single You Tube video out there. If someone tells you that atheists saw hell, you immediately believe it is true because it supports your beliefs. But if a person of Islam faith would say they saw God and heaven, you WOULD NOT believe it because it does NOT support your faith or your beliefs. How convenient. And for your information, people who see things before they are dead do not count because they are not DEAD.
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Find other videos of atheists who were clinically dead. There are more then just those 20, I promise.
 Quoting: nwo_watcher_911


So if I should assume that this is true and ALL atheists will be sent to hell for not believing in and worshiping your God, what does this say about YOUR God? Is he loving? What if a person is a good person, doesn't harm others, gives to the poor, but just has a hard time wrapping their brain around these stories of a God who punishes people eternally, a God that would make humans seem like angels because you won't find many people who would ever torment someone forever.

So if your God is the one true God, how do you know he loves you? If you read your Bible, you would see that he hated the Pharisess who followed all the laws. He told people that they had to follow all the laws and commandments and REPENT of ALL of their sins. If you leave some sins unrepented, how do you know that YOU won't be in hell?

Jesus tells people that the road is narrow and only a FEW get to heaven. How do you know that you are one of the few? Are you making some pretty big assumptions because all you hear in church today is how much God loves you? If you are believing this without studying the Bible yourself, maybe you had better be shaking in your shoes. Maybe a prostitute and a sinner would have a better chance of seeing heaven than you, at least that is what Jesus said. And I have read the Bible, obviously, you have not.
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so then you know the Lord's Prayer? You know the most important law is to love God and each other and that is how we will be judged...

being forgiven likely has an energetic purpose... it is consciousness closer to the Divine...

what don't you understand?
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wait a second... you mean there are still christians in the world? lol i thought they were all gone already.

oh well maybe another 50 years.
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wait a second... you mean there are still christians in the world? lol i thought they were all gone already.

oh well maybe another 50 years.
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not only that, but I think there is an honest to God revival happening...

facts-based and faith-based in an intelligent union...

I know, I know, I can't believe it either, but such is the case and if you care to have an intelligent conversation about it, check here:

Thread: Shaking Spears Consciousness--that's what's up... :)

:)
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oh, and, uh... Merry Christmas!

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So if I should assume that this is true and ALL atheists will be sent to hell for not believing in and worshiping your God, what does this say about YOUR God? Is he loving? What if a person is a good person, doesn't harm others, gives to the poor, but just has a hard time wrapping their brain around these stories of a God who punishes people eternally, a God that would make humans seem like angels because you won't find many people who would ever torment someone forever.

So if your God is the one true God, how do you know he loves you? If you read your Bible, you would see that he hated the Pharisess who followed all the laws. He told people that they had to follow all the laws and commandments and REPENT of ALL of their sins. If you leave some sins unrepented, how do you know that YOU won't be in hell?

Jesus tells people that the road is narrow and only a FEW get to heaven. How do you know that you are one of the few? Are you making some pretty big assumptions because all you hear in church today is how much God loves you? If you are believing this without studying the Bible yourself, maybe you had better be shaking in your shoes. Maybe a prostitute and a sinner would have a better chance of seeing heaven than you, at least that is what Jesus said. And I have read the Bible, obviously, you have not.
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To answer your questions, let me ask you: Why would a parent discipline their child? Is it to beat them or because they love them?

If you are good and all, but cannot bring yourself to God, then you are not choosing to come to Him in your own free will. You should see what He did to 40yrs and to generations of the people of Israel - roaming the desert for 40yrs?? But this was without vain, as all sin was purdged which paved the way for the birth of Jesus.

When you repent your sins, you are physically turning away from them, and not looking back. If you find yourself considering, and you are at the Crossroad, you must choose The LORD and walk away from Sin. Funny you mention Prostitute - I managed prostitutes for over 15 years professionally - but as stated above an exit path was provided and The LORD rescued me from sin. I do not look back or consider it because The LORD is with me and there is no need or want of Sin in the spirit, as it is a worldly thing - a tool used by that snake to convince you. This is how you can be saved: Simply call out to The LORD like I did, and tell him in your heart that you wish abide by His law and His way, because lets face it better safe then sorry! 1000 atheists can't be wrong ya know? But (get out of here snake!) it was written long before Jesus, and my testimony today illustrates the same.

But just because you were saved doesn't mean you are saved. You must not turn back to sin. Ask The LORD for discernment, that is; the automatic shit separator. And ask to know Him with your heart, and suddenly you will see things line up.
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it really helped me to think about it from the point of view of a beekeeper...

the beekeeper wants the hive to produce awesome honey and does what he can to make this happen...

Old Testament or New, God is looking for the best possible harvest...

we are free will sovereign spirit creations... there are rules God appears to have self-imposed to have truly sentient creations, not a bunch of mindless drones...

given that these creations chose to switch/expand consciousness and disobey Him, the parameters changed and we "fell"...

lots of evidence for this in nature...

God reacted accordingly, lovingly, dealing with us for the best long-run harvest...

like a bee hive that makes comb incorrectly, adjustments need to be made...

think from the point of view of wanting to create something as beautiful as consciousness... and earth is the hive, where good and bad play out...

God does not need a bunch of lucifers running around distorting His creation...

to me it seems almost simplistic to refer to God as He, but Jesus calls Him the Father, and there must have been a reason...

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ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. They say a sign will convince them. As if a miracle would help. Like they can be led to true enlightenment. No, sorry, not, a miracle will not help. They would still not worship and their minds would not change. The blind have seen, the lame have walked. Prophets will rise and atheists have fallen.

They gladly admit their existence has no point. Good for them, they will change. In an instant they convert. No not by what has happened around them, but with themselves. They will have their own experience too, and they cannot be led to it. And in an instant they convert.
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This is the essential importance of all religion. Without belief you pretty much have to accept that life is meaningless. To perceive meaning in life, and thus motivation to continue, you need God. So even if there were not one, you would have to invent one.
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you say life is meaningless without religion.

an atheist says life isn't meaningless, it has a purpose: beer, pizza and hookers.

but what is the point of life for a religitard? God... so that way he can have beer, pizza and hookers. proof: take those away and the religitard has yet complains that life is pointless.

now tell me who was right.
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you say life is meaningless without religion.

an atheist says life isn't meaningless, it has a purpose: beer, pizza and hookers.

but what is the point of life for a religitard? God... so that way he can have beer, pizza and hookers. proof: take those away and the religitard has yet complains that life is pointless.

now tell me who was right.
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This is the same argument Satan had with God, as illustrated in the book of Job:

6 One day the angels[a] came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them. 7 The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?”

Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”

8 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”

9 “Does Job fear God for nothing?” Satan replied. 10 “Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.”

12 The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.”

Then Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.
 Quoting: The Bible


Do you want to know how this turned out??

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Atheists and others that don't believe in God have the free will to burn in hell for it.

What's so sad is that Atheists are so dumb that they don't even know that they Ron Wyatt FOUND Noah's Ark EXACTLY where God told him to look and when the Ark was measured using ground penetrating radar, it was EXACTLY the size it said in the Bible, down to the INCH!

Here's that story for anybody that wants to wake up!

[link to www.nsearch.com]

So be warned all you a mockers of God and Jesus Christ. The Bible has been proven accurate! That video above proves 5 different stories in the bible in fact!

But most of the non believers will spend more time researching Chemtrails and UFOs than God's word that determines IF they go heaven or hell.

You go to hell by denying God and Jesus Christ and by breaking the 10 Commandments and not asking for forgiveness. ALL of us are sinners but Jesus died so that your sins could be forgiven just like the ief on the cross who went to heaven that very day!

God wants everybody to go to heaven but even God knows that not all will believe. You just can't fix STUPID!
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Atheist are already dead.. Why even worry about them?
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No,we are quite alive thank you.
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My post is over your head bud, you're dead already.
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wtf is wrong with you?!
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eternally dead
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No such state exists
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Atheists and others that don't believe in God have the free will to burn in hell for it.

What's so sad is that Atheists are so dumb that they don't even know that they Ron Wyatt FOUND Noah's Ark EXACTLY where God told him to look and when the Ark was measured using ground penetrating radar, it was EXACTLY the size it said in the Bible, down to the INCH!

Here's that story for anybody that wants to wake up!

[link to www.nsearch.com]

So be warned all you a mockers of God and Jesus Christ. The Bible has been proven accurate! That video above proves 5 different stories in the bible in fact!

But most of the non believers will spend more time researching Chemtrails and UFOs than God's word that determines IF they go heaven or hell.

You go to hell by denying God and Jesus Christ and by breaking the 10 Commandments and not asking for forgiveness. ALL of us are sinners but Jesus died so that your sins could be forgiven just like the ief on the cross who went to heaven that very day!

God wants everybody to go to heaven but even God knows that not all will believe. You just can't fix STUPID!
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Again, WTF is wrong with you people?!

Didn't Jesus forgive those who nailed Him to the cross (even though they couldn't have been repentant because they didn't even know what they had done)? Did I miss the part where they came asking for forgiveness, and recited the sinners prayer?

Aren't the holier-than-thou Pharisees and the money changers the *only* people Jesus ever got ugly with? Yet you church bots are convinced He's gonna cook anyone who doesn't believe in Him?

sigh
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Atheist are already dead.. Why even worry about them?
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No,we are quite alive thank you.
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My post is over your head bud, you're dead already.
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Yeah sure. There have been a least a 1000 other posts just like yours on here, so not so original. Second, who cares. This is a conspiracy website. Aliens,Bigfoot, and the Illuminati are fair game here. Go peddle your religion somewhere else.
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Go play your x box dickface. baby