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It is more than just gun control

 
Lazy_Dog
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12/21/2012 01:37 PM

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It is more than just gun control
That people are fighting to save their guns, think again. The issue of gun control is much larger than just keeping guns.

The real issue is rights. Yep I said it, our rights granted to us under the Constitution of the United States of America.

Already they are limiting free speech, the freedom of the press, our religion, search and seizure, trial by jury, if you believe birthers, natural born citizen and States rights. Now once again they are after the right to bear arms, which is already limited by the Federal Government and many States and cities.

If we as the people of the United States of America give up guns, the one right in the Constitution which allows us to defend ourselves, what rights are next? Do we have another way to protect ourselves of tyranny? Bringing a knife to a gun fight comes to mind.

First the guns, ban them they say, this just opens doors for them to remove or repeal other rights. The people of the United States of America need to stand up and fight for our rights.

If a convicted felon can sue to have a sex change at the expense of the tax payers by citing the Constitution, then why can we not have our rifles or pistols?

The 2nd Amendment is not outdated, it holds more value today than when it was first written. There are 27 Amendments to the United States Constitution, the first 10 are called the Bill of Rights. If the founding fathers did not believe it to be of such importance, then why did they make it the 2nd Amendment and not the 10th. It is only preceded by the right of speech, religion and press (which is the 1st Amendment).
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Re: It is more than just gun control
for real.

i consider the gun "debate" as more of a distraction issue..
given the limited ability to actually "ban" guns..

there is still no denying the steady & unrelenting attacks on personal liberty.

when the 100th monkey is aware of the 2 party lie...then the beast will be confronted.

peacefully, is my guess.
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12/21/2012 01:56 PM
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Re: It is more than just gun control
At the heart of it all is the idea of self ownership. If, you own yourself then you own your property and the right to defend yourself and your property.

The world is de-volving from this idea born in the enlightenment as brain washed masses are thronging to collectivism in the hope that the collective will "protect" them even from their own harmful actions. It is the death of the individual and the death of self responsibility or taking responsibility for one's own actions.

Taking the second amendment away will just be the first step, as criminals will always have guns the next step will be to declare criminals "morally challenged" with special privileges. Only hard working honest people will be punished in the New World Order.
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Re: It is more than just gun control
At the heart of it all is the idea of self ownership. If, you own yourself then you own your property and the right to defend yourself and your property.

The world is de-volving from this idea born in the enlightenment as brain washed masses are thronging to collectivism in the hope that the collective will "protect" them even from their own harmful actions. It is the death of the individual and the death of self responsibility or taking responsibility for one's own actions.

Taking the second amendment away will just be the first step, as criminals will always have guns the next step will be to declare criminals "morally challenged" with special privileges. Only hard working honest people will be punished in the New World Order.
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I think it is more than that. Slowly they are taking basic and advanced freedoms away. They do this in the name of equality. They give criminals "rights" so they can vote or have some other type of presence in the world as it allows them to maintain control and/or power.

I do not think it is a self ownership issue. Over the past few decades I have watched as the United States of America has become more and more Marxist in the way of leadership.

I do not believe that all the people of the USA are in lock step with leadership. I was taught in college no less that apathy is one of the biggest problems in the USA. People have the mind set if it does not effect me then I do not care.

The problem with that is when it does effect them, it is usually to late to do anything about it.
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12/21/2012 02:14 PM

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Re: It is more than just gun control
VERY clear agenda in play here, and they are NOT even concerning themselves about trying to mask it anymore.

Here's a Post-sandy Hook timeline I've been maintaining here on GLP to chronicle their obvious efforts to sway public opinion:

Thread: USA Gun Control Timeline, a social experiment...Post Sandy Hook to Present
"Successful people are always looking for opportunities to help others. Unsuccessful people are always asking, 'What's in it for me?'" — Brian Tracy: Personal and business training author, speaker, and consultant

"We are all, right now, living the life we choose." -- Peter McWilliams, Author

"The bad news is time flies. The good news is you're the pilot." -- Michael Altshuler
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Re: It is more than just gun control
VERY clear agenda in play here, and they are NOT even concerning themselves about trying to mask it anymore.

Here's a Post-sandy Hook timeline I've been maintaining here on GLP to chronicle their obvious efforts to sway public opinion:

Thread: USA Gun Control Timeline, a social experiment...Post Sandy Hook to Present
 Quoting: milehighmike


Yes that is how they are trying to take away our right. Please don't get me started on a U.S. Senator introducing a bill!
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12/21/2012 02:20 PM
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Look what happened we had terrorist attack (no matter how it happened) with planes and the remedy was to put TSA thugs in airport molesting children and old ladies.
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Re: It is more than just gun control
for real.

i consider the gun "debate" as more of a distraction issue..
given the limited ability to actually "ban" guns..

there is still no denying the steady & unrelenting attacks on personal liberty.

when the 100th monkey is aware of the 2 party lie...then the beast will be confronted.

peacefully, is my guess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29960820


yeah, but they always black van the 99th monkey every time.
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12/21/2012 02:30 PM
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Re: It is more than just gun control
The real problem is the cult of liberalism ever-growing. By 2020, we are all going to be politically-correct, docile creatures.

It was fun...
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12/21/2012 02:39 PM

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Re: It is more than just gun control
The real problem is the cult of liberalism ever-growing. By 2020, we are all going to be politically-correct, docile creatures.

It was fun...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19783609


Not if we start to stand up to it.

I am tired of being told how to live, how to feed my cat and dog, how to raise my child, what I can and can't do or own.

The issue of the 2nd Amendment is just the beginning I believe. I have used my personal firearm to defend my home and family in the past. I preferred to be an armed victim than just a victim.

I hate the direction that my beloved country is going. I will not take up arms against my beloved country, I do however wish there was more I could do other than rant.
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Re: It is more than just gun control
Great thread, Lazy D!
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Re: It is more than just gun control
If like i would have a house with land and free too core soil ...

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Blblh i would make a perfect rectangular farm for myself , even with a 1 by 1 m weird stuff.

...

For example first for myself if super for others , doesnt it work like that ?
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Re: It is more than just gun control
No mud in the end. Or dirty boots ... It should work like that without spilling stuff next door after a while.
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Re: It is more than just gun control
Look what happened we had terrorist attack (no matter how it happened) with planes and the remedy was to put TSA thugs in airport molesting children and old ladies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7154770


TSA is a joke
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And whatever blhblh doesnt jungle moss have the abillity to grow fleshlike or ... Oh man i have gold in my front yard like what was in that stinking soil sand i bought ....
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...on no its also on the rock in the pond.

Its freezing ... Damny.
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Re: It is more than just gun control
If like i would have a house with land and free too core soil ...

...

Blblh i would make a perfect rectangular farm for myself , even with a 1 by 1 m weird stuff.

...

For example first for myself if super for others , doesnt it work like that ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30563817


WHAT?

Here in the United States you can own a house so long as you mortgage it to the hilt, pay taxes on it and your HOA dues, otherwise you lose the said house.

If you want to farm on it, you must tell the government what you are planning to grow, them they will ask you for an environmental impact study to determine how it will affect the soil. Then they may decide you grow something else.

So you want to give what you grow away to some friends, family, or neighbors? Depending on where you are, you can go to jail for that and don't even think about selling it, unless of course you have filled out all the required paperwork and paid the associated fees.

This shit is getting out of hand!
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Re: It is more than just gun control
...on no its also on the rock in the pond.

Its freezing ... Damny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30563817


Strange ... With open chemical factorys ?

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Oh the work is global without backup.
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Re: It is more than just gun control
Here they sue workers which created a chemical explosien or bar fire without doing it good in the rest of the country.s.
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12/21/2012 03:10 PM

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Re: It is more than just gun control
the problem lies in the irresponsibility and immoral people of this country. Our constitution is great, and it serves to keep the people free from oppression.
But immoral and iresponsible people have destroyed our way of life here, they have used the constitution to their advantage.
Freedom of religion does not mean to ban christmas trees and nativity scenes.
Right to keep and bear arms does not mean that you can buy an ak-47 and shoot people with it.

The only way to fix this problem is for people to behave themselves and be morally and ethicly.

just like john adams said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

The problem isn't the weapons or their mouth. the problem is the way they use their weapons and their mouth.
 Quoting: secretninja


I would not necessarily call them immoral, yes the people who go shoot up schools are, maybe politicians too.

What I have learned is that there are to many people now that believe that are open minded, yet if you disagree with them then you are a racist, a anti-Zionist, or something else.

The problem is that there are those who believe there morals are better than ours and because of that they think they should impose their morality on the rest of us.

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