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New York Gov. Cuomo Says New York may Soon Start Confiscating Guns or Impose a Mandatory Buy Back Program

 
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Mandetory gets my size 12 knickers in a twist as onlynlae abiding sapps give in to it the very naughty people I'll not hand in the shooters and then one day wake up in the UK with no or back to a fool with a shoooter
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I'll take that as an aye.
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There was a time when ANY elected official - State or Federal level - who so blatantly proposed IGNORING the AMENDMENTS of the CONSTITUTION would have been Impeached IMMEDIATELY!

Remember that all these "leaders" took a oath of office. Part of that oath was a promise to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America! When they do otherwise they've violated their oath of office, and are subject to impeachment or a "writ of Mandamus" in some jurisdictions. The Federal Courts have rarely allowed such a writ to be issued, but then no one has dared ask the higher Federal Court for such a writ in over 50 year! So maybe it is time for some enterprising law firm to request the issuance of a writ of Mandamus to instruct these "sworn" officials to perform the oath of their office - including THE UPHOLDING AND DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION OF THE US!!

FAILURE to UPHOLD AN OATH OF OFFICE is and always has been an IMPEACHABLE offense!

It can also be argued, during the investigation of, or issuance of a Writ of Mandamus and/or Impeachment Proceedings against an elected or appointed official that is NOT UPHOLDING HIS/HER OATH OF OFFICE WHICH INCLUDES THE "PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION CLAUSE" -- that there are two different types of provisions in the Constitution that allows for Amendments to the Constitution to be added and/or changed in a lawful and orderly way.

In addition to the "standard" 2/3rds Majority Vote of both houses of Congress, there also exists Article V of the Constitution which is a provision for a Constitutional Convention (Also known as an Article V Convention.) Convening of such a "Convention" requires Application to Congress by 2/3rds of all (then existing) State Legislatures. (Two Thirds of the current 50 States would be 34 State Legislatures.)

UPON SUCH APPLICATION BY 2/3rds of existent STATE LEGISLATURES the FEDERAL CONGRESS/SENATE MUST CONVENE A "CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION."

There has not been a Constitutional Convention Convened since the original in 1787! The "fear" is that a Constitutional Convention, once called, could result in the lawmakers proposing virtually anything they wished as an Amendment to the Constitution - HOWEVER - such proposed new/changed Amendments would require ratification of by 3/4th of the States in the US. Currently that would number 38 States --which would have to approve and agree to the proposed changes before they could become law.

The bottom line is that IF any 2/3rds of the States agree - The Federal Congress/Senate have no choice. They MUST Convene said "Constitutional Convention" and anything can and probably will happen. The one existing safeguard is that nothing can become law without 3/4ths of all States agreeing o such changes. Thank heaven.

SINCE THERE IS AMPLE ROOM AND TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO LEGALLY AND LAWFULLY CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION in the event that change is needed, GOV CUOMO's "Gun Confiscation" and / or "Mandatory Buy Back" schemes are both blatant violations of the US Constitution which he has taken an OATH TO PROTECT AND DEFEND!

While I understand the fear the public has currently about crazy people shooting up schools or businesses - outlawing guns is not going to stop insane people from doing awful things!

The insane and desperate and tortured minds will continue to do these monstrous acts - switching to different methods perhaps, such as bombs, or arson, or something no one has thought of yet. You cannot legislate away insanity and hate among the population The best you can hope to do is discover its' existence early and try to get the person into therapy and steer them into a more productive and less hate-filled way of living.

Our country once - in 1920 the US tried to "legislate" alcohol out of our society. Liquor was "demonized" by a Protestant Woman's Temperance Movement and eventually forced their narrow views onto the lawmakers in Washington - resulting in the passage of "The Volstead Act" in 1920.

In doing so, they created great fortunes for bootleggers and speakeasy (clandestine nightclubs which served liquor) and those who could successfully smuggle alcohol into the US became billionaires by todays' standards.

The resulting crime wave, murder increase, and blatant violation of the "volstead act" as the law was known - was so bad that in 1933 it was repealed to the great relief of an entire nation (except for the criminals who by that time had mostly made their great fortunes and suddenly became quite respectable citizens for the most part. Some of our leading and wealthiest families in America today can trace large parts of their current fortunes to a forefather's illegal production, sale, transport and sale of alcohol during those infamous thirteen years.

But like a lot of things in "upper parts of American Society - it isn't often discussed and even more seldom so, in public. It seems somehow that the source of the money seems to get a lot more respectable and "nicer" as a generation or two passes between the criminal element that actually made it and the kids, grandkids and great grandchildren, who now have nothing to do but monitor the investments and make sure the interest and dividend income stays high enough to keep the whole clan well monied.
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According to Wikipedia...
Of all the states that do issue carry pistol licenses, New York State has arguably the strictest handgun licensing policies in the nation.

New York City, which is effectively a "No-Issue" jurisdiction for carry pistol licenses, has even stricter laws, including those regulating handguns exclusively kept at home.

This clown town has such effective gun laws Gov Cuomo should "lead by example".

He should give up his security detail, or disarm them completely.

Or,

He could order his security detail to carry spears, shields, and knives.

Perhaps we could let him have a back-up cross-bow squad for big events.
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NYC is charnal ground no doubt about it.

Why don't we hear what he has to say first because he also knows criminals especially in a city like ny have little fear.
I'm going to wait for this to play out before getting too worked up.
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The only reason it is a shithole that it is is because NYC people put up with it.

If they wanted their gun rights back, the freedoms back, and be rid of their sky high taxes and property taxes and all the other tax/fee/fine bs, they end it tomorrow. They outnumber these asshole politicians by the millions.

That's the fact, and the absolute truth. NY people could END it if they wanted to.

But rather than ending it, they come down south and take over place where I live, and very often they bring the same fucking values that caused their problems when they were up in NYC, and they start causing problems down here.

How about this folks, put your ego aside, accept that you were wrong about the "evil" guns and all the rest of it. If you haven't learned by now that these politicians and their banker NWO trash friends are willing to MURDER you (think 9/11), you ain't gonna learn, so stay out of the South.
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A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


If they want our firearms, they will have to take our bullets first - out of the end of our guns!
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R.I.P. 2nd Amendment ? verysad
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Indeed! Our early leaders [unlike today] had a very specific reason for creating the Second Amendment, which most people don't realize. We'd just had a revolution from a tyrannical government and they knew we might need to have one again in the future. That's why we need guns!

So, if you wanna ban assault weapons.... fine! But it better be a GENUINE BAN. Nobody gets to have them! Not cops; not the military; NOBODY!

This idea that they can have them and we can't, ain't gonna fly!
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Thank You SUPERManny !!!

I have been studying the snakeheads for quite some time now.

They have a pattern of thinking, and a signature way of expressing their goals/missions.

Of course, all of the recent shootings are a staged, fake scam-bo operations.

It took time, but I am finally off the "idiot box" (TV)

I Do NOT watch the "award winning" local news, or ANY other politician/actor.

Turns out, "they" are more snaky than we ever thought possible.

They may want revolution, but perhaps we can put the squeeze on them in non violent ways first.
To show them that we will not be #!@!ED with.

Any ideas?
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I wonder how far "they'll" keep on going before someone says NO...could it be maybe they're guns, they're football, or maybe they're big screen tv's, or nooooo...they're vacations? When are the stupids in this country going to draw the line....I know, I know....don't you dare take my STARBUCKS!! Them's fighin words!
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DC. He should just step down before he winds up behind bars along with the rest of the traitors about the country.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Or in shackles facing down an angry mob.
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bsflag

1) Illegal
2) He does not have the power.

3) Chain of command goes: People, Sheriff, Mayor, Governor
4) It will never happen. Especially upstate, which is the REAL NY. The city is just a leech sucking off of upstates tit. Once the dollar crashes, those folks will be the rest of the state's SLAVES if they are lucky. See, upstate folk would much sooner hire a disabled or welfare person of some suit wearing kleptomaniac from the city.

NYC needs to succeed and be their own shit hole. Cuomo, is a mindless moron lacking the courage to stand up to the mafias that hijacked DC. He should just step down before he winds up behind bars along with the rest of the traitors about the country.

They need to stop pretending the people dont know whats going on.
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^^^ This.

He can talk all he wants....but he does not have the power to unilaterally decide that for a state.
The Second Amendment assures if he even tries this he will be brought IMMEDIATELY into a massive legal battle that will end up in the Supreme Court.

mentdis
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and said court will rule how? Obama might have 2 slots to put in some more communists.
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the most conservative of all the justices, Scalia, has already stated that he believes the constitution could be interpreted in a manner as to allow gun control.
"You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom" Clarence Darrow
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When YOU get a note in writing that directs you to turn in your gun or face fines imposed by the IRS, what are you going to do?

They can and will use the IRS to manage any government-mandated returns. They have tracked your licensed weapons and the burden of proof is on YOU to prove that you sold them.

Get ready for fines and/or imprisonment for failurte to comply with the IRS!
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this would work too. even before Obama care, the taxation clause has allowed the feds to withhold financial benefits if u do not comply with their position. The idea is the states have the right to regulate most things, but the feds can chose who they give money to. Case on point is the drinking age. Its up to the state to determine how old you have to be to drink. but the feds will only provide the state a "highway" fund if their drinking age is 21. hence, u must be 21 in the U.S. to legally drink.
"You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom" Clarence Darrow
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"end the life of Adam"


quote heard from that police scanner during Sandy hook.
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I'm apologize for being so obtuse. However, I just don't think some of you folks understand the Constitution died when we said, 'torture was okay', then allowed the Bush Youth to railroad us with PA1 and PA2.

Anyone that thinks this is still a republic is deluded.
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+1000, not many people on here admit when this really started. although Obama is no better than the rest, this started before him. hes just continued it! Although I was hopeful during the 1st election this would change, it has only gotten worse.
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When YOU get a note in writing that directs you to turn in your gun or face fines imposed by the IRS, what are you going to do?

They can and will use the IRS to manage any government-mandated returns. They have tracked your licensed weapons and the burden of proof is on YOU to prove that you sold them.

Get ready for fines and/or imprisonment for failurte to comply with the IRS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


this would work too. even before Obama care, the taxation clause has allowed the feds to withhold financial benefits if u do not comply with their position. The idea is the states have the right to regulate most things, but the feds can chose who they give money to. Case on point is the drinking age. Its up to the state to determine how old you have to be to drink. but the feds will only provide the state a "highway" fund if their drinking age is 21. hence, u must be 21 in the U.S. to legally drink.
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If guns are banned people will build their own guns and ammo; they will spawn a new free market. Then they will be more underground. Fools pushing on a string.
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When YOU get a note in writing that directs you to turn in your gun or face fines imposed by the IRS, what are you going to do?

They can and will use the IRS to manage any government-mandated returns. They have tracked your licensed weapons and the burden of proof is on YOU to prove that you sold them.

Get ready for fines and/or imprisonment for failurte to comply with the IRS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13825301


this would work too. even before Obama care, the taxation clause has allowed the feds to withhold financial benefits if u do not comply with their position. The idea is the states have the right to regulate most things, but the feds can chose who they give money to. Case on point is the drinking age. Its up to the state to determine how old you have to be to drink. but the feds will only provide the state a "highway" fund if their drinking age is 21. hence, u must be 21 in the U.S. to legally drink.
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If guns are banned people will build their own guns and ammo; they will spawn a new free market. Then they will be more underground. Fools pushing on a string.
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im saying legally this would work in terms of the court. not saying I think it should work!
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New York Gov. Cuomo Says:

“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”


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this would mean exactly what our forefathers warned about

you are being tricked--
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Cuomo is a total idiot. No doubt he's going to run for the Presidency next time. UGH!

I take exception with the writer of the article when he says:

New York is one of the most Anti-Gun States in America; In fact, they already have numerous gun control laws on the books which make it nearly impossible to own this class of weapon to begin with. Despite all these gun control laws, New York remains one of the most dangerous places in America, with New York City having one of the highest murder rates in America.

The writer doesn't do himself any good by misleading. The fact is that NYC has one of the lowest crime rates out of any big city.
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so glad we moved out of ny.
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they are going to TRY and do this every where. if ny does give up guns we are going down in the history books as pussies forever looked down on for doing it. They will teach your kids we did the right thing.
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New York Gov. Cuomo Says:

“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”


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HELLO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CIVIL WAR WILL START IN NEW YORK FIRST.

THIS CRIMINAL BASTARD WANTS TO TAKE THE GUNS OF HONEST AMERICANS, AND ARM THE MAFIA.

FUCK HIM IN HIS ASS.
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New York Gov. Cuomo Says:

“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28696018


HELLO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CIVIL WAR WILL START IN NEW YORK FIRST.

THIS CRIMINAL BASTARD WANTS TO TAKE THE GUNS OF HONEST AMERICANS, AND ARM THE MAFIA.

FUCK HIM IN HIS ASS.
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This + 1000
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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so glad we moved out of ny.
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they are going to TRY and do this every where. if ny does give up guns we are going down in the history books as pussies forever looked down on for doing it. They will teach your kids we did the right thing.
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i moved to florida..the gun culture is alive & well in these parts..a pro gun governor ..and recently- one million concealed carriers

they can try, lol, but the odds are not in their favor.

ny is the perfect place to start this crap...the people are already used to the abuse.
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Yep------instant Civil War. Guaranteed.

Gov. Cuomo will be in Hell for all Eternity.

Guaranteed.
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None of this will happen.

Citizens should, if it comes to it, will hand in firearms and register.
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Whatever, after they do that lets do an across the board government worker pay cut of 20% due to the reduced threat from the civil population.

Douchebag faggots charging me $120 a week just to have the priviledge of living in my house. And jacking it up 10-20% a year EVERY year.
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New York Gov. Cuomo Says:

“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”


[link to offgridsurvival.com]
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Go ahead and disarm the blue states and let the libs get what they deserve; death and destruction at the hands of insane negroes.
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Don't bring racism into this, please. I agree with the "let them secede" part but PLEASE leave your racist heart out of this.
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New York Gov. Cuomo Says:

“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”


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lmao

Good luck Cuomo
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No Governor has the legal right to confiscate a legally owned firearm that isn't involved in a criminal investigation.
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If it is REGISTERED he has.
When you REGISTER your car/gun you turn over ownership of it to the state in which it is registred. Although you bought and paid for it you do not own it you are merely the custodian of the item.

The state has the right to take back 'their' property at any time.
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Is that true, folks?

Because if it is, we are fucked.
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No Governor has the legal right to confiscate a legally owned firearm that isn't involved in a criminal investigation.
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If it is REGISTERED he has.
When you REGISTER your car/gun you turn over ownership of it to the state in which it is registred. Although you bought and paid for it you do not own it you are merely the custodian of the item.

The state has the right to take back 'their' property at any time.
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Is that true, folks?

Because if it is, we are fucked.
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yes. registration is the act of registering an object.

to register is to Give up the ownership right of the item in exchange for services.

It's like ascension. except that instead of giving up the ownership of your soul for servi(tude). you just do it with an object.
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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As I have stated many times before; the United States Supreme Court in D.C. v. Heller (2008) ruled that an "individual" has a constitutional (federal) right to keep and possess a firearms; no governor nor any other "state" official has any right to impinge upon that right....
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No Governor has the legal right to confiscate a legally owned firearm that isn't involved in a criminal investigation.
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If it is REGISTERED he has.
When you REGISTER your car/gun you turn over ownership of it to the state in which it is registred. Although you bought and paid for it you do not own it you are merely the custodian of the item.

The state has the right to take back 'their' property at any time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20955129


Is that true, folks?

Because if it is, we are fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


yes. registration is the act of registering an object.

to register is to Give up the ownership right of the item in exchange for services.

It's like ascension. except that instead of giving up the ownership of your soul for servi(tude). you just do it with an object.
 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


Then we ARE fucked. Yep. New York should be thrown out of the Union. Or voluntarily secede. This is insane.
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If it is REGISTERED he has.
When you REGISTER your car/gun you turn over ownership of it to the state in which it is registred. Although you bought and paid for it you do not own it you are merely the custodian of the item.

The state has the right to take back 'their' property at any time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20955129


Is that true, folks?

Because if it is, we are fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


yes. registration is the act of registering an object.

to register is to Give up the ownership right of the item in exchange for services.

It's like ascension. except that instead of giving up the ownership of your soul for servi(tude). you just do it with an object.
 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


Then we ARE fucked. Yep. New York should be thrown out of the Union. Or voluntarily secede. This is insane.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


Well, you know, they have to come and get it.

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