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Who needs automatic rifles? I'm for gun controle but not gun ban!

 
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OP please, im begging you, fuck off and die, for the children.
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Let me try and explain this.... AGAIN.

One of the fastest growing crimes we have here in Tucson is "Home Invasions" where anywhere from three to six guys barge into your home and take over, usually robbing and raping and beating the occupants. A lot of the time, the occupants wind up dead.

Now, at two o'clock in the morning, when when five guys decide to forcibly enter my home, the last thing I want to have to think about is counting shots and reloading.

All I want to do is protect me and mine.... and I am going to protect me and mine.

Sorry if that offends you.
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Doesn't offend me in the least, I have a few questions though.

Are guns not supposed to be kept in a locked cabinet, bullets stored separately ?

What good does said gun do for you if it is locked in said cabinet as required by law?

What happens when your curious child finds said gun in your bedside drawer and uses it on one of his siblings or friends, while playing shoot em up?

What happens when your out of control teen finds the same weapon and takes it to school and uses it on their classmates?

Serious questions, as you all seem to think it is ok to keep a loaded gun under your pillow at night.
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What law says guns have to be locked separate from ammo in your own house?

Are you stupid? How is a law supposed to be enforced in peoples homes.
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Well, we have stupid laws that state this,

It seems to be working for us thus far.

I understand it varies from state to state, but i'm pretty sure most states have some sort of laws regulating the safe storage of guns and ammo.

I also see you didn't address the other questions I had.

There are so many issues with having guns in a home, unsafe storage is just one of the many.
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Since you're still unable to grasp a simple concept, let's focus on definitions. "Regular citizens"- I am a regular citizen. I have gun permits and can go to any store and buy whatever I please except for a class 3 NFA firearm. Those who have been granted class 3 are not the regular citizens I'm referring to, nor are they common. It's not like everyone who can foot the 200$ becomes eligible. I know dozens and dozens of gun nuts, yet I don't know a single one who has class 3. It's just not that easy.

Cops can use full autos, but you can't just decide you want to be a cop for that reason. Becoming qualified for such use, just like obtaining a class 3, is a long drawn-out process.

I've never seen anyone bring their own legal auto to a range, either. Most are owned by dealers and collectors, as others have pointed out. We clear?
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Liar!

Fuck off and die, Holder.
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drevil damn take a timeout patsey.
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Blow it out yer ass, Gayvid!
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happydance Take your midol dramatic twit.
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pistol does little against a 50. cal...what does the power have mounted to their humvees...get the picture
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A pistol works wonders, when you get "up close, and personal".

Gnomesayin'?
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Let's see you sneak up on a humvee with a 50 cal machine gun mounted.
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Ram it up yer snout, and blow it out yer ass!
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12/21/2012 04:25 PM
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Let me try and explain this.... AGAIN.

One of the fastest growing crimes we have here in Tucson is "Home Invasions" where anywhere from three to six guys barge into your home and take over, usually robbing and raping and beating the occupants. A lot of the time, the occupants wind up dead.

Now, at two o'clock in the morning, when when five guys decide to forcibly enter my home, the last thing I want to have to think about is counting shots and reloading.

All I want to do is protect me and mine.... and I am going to protect me and mine.

Sorry if that offends you.
 Quoting: Dr. Lecter



Doesn't offend me in the least, I have a few questions though.

Are guns not supposed to be kept in a locked cabinet, bullets stored separately ?

What good does said gun do for you if it is locked in said cabinet as required by law?

What happens when your curious child finds said gun in your bedside drawer and uses it on one of his siblings or friends, while playing shoot em up?

What happens when your out of control teen finds the same weapon and takes it to school and uses it on their classmates?

Serious questions, as you all seem to think it is ok to keep a loaded gun under your pillow at night.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


What law says guns have to be locked separate from ammo in your own house?

Are you stupid? How is a law supposed to be enforced in peoples homes.
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Well, we have stupid laws that state this,

It seems to be working for us thus far.

I understand it varies from state to state, but i'm pretty sure most states have some sort of laws regulating the safe storage of guns and ammo.

I also see you didn't address the other questions I had.

There are so many issues with having guns in a home, unsafe storage is just one of the many.
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there are many quick release safes and such options to prevent this shill.
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Liar!

Fuck off and die, Holder.
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drevil damn take a timeout patsey.
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Blow it out yer ass, Gayvid!
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happydance Take your midol dramatic twit.
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Jesus H. Pole-Vaulting Christ!

Could your av look anymore gay?
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Looks like the canucks in this thread took one too many concussions from tackles to the head in hockey.

They actually trust politicians and bureaucrats, despite them being the biggest bunch of murderers ever.
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fucking shill...
i see you have tried this here before...
Thread: Im not pro gun person but THIS feels wrong
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Lol, Iv completely forgot about this thanks :)
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The second amendment clearly states we have the right to bear any arm as longas not affiliated with a militia. As per home and self defense. So please. Worry about Canada, Unless you agree. And support us,
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drevil damn take a timeout patsey.
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Blow it out yer ass, Gayvid!
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happydance Take your midol dramatic twit.
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Jesus H. Pole-Vaulting Christ!

Could your av look anymore gay?
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You like them poles don't you patsey?
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Looks like the canucks in this thread took one too many concussions from tackles to the head in hockey.

They actually trust politicians and bureaucrats, despite them being the biggest bunch of murderers ever.
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+1

All Canucks are Gay Statists!
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12/21/2012 04:32 PM
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.. okay to all the dumbass Shit heads commenting on this thread. Fully auto guns are still illegal in USA unless you have a class 3 license. We don't own rocket launchers and explosives so[liveleak][/liveleak] shut the hell up.
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Gun control is the very reason we have so many criminals. They were few are far between in the 1700s and 1800s because if caught, they were shot of hung on the spot. We need that now. Not out of hate or revenge. Just duty to our fellow moral men, women, and children. Stop propagating evil through leniency.
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Looks like the canucks in this thread took one too many concussions from tackles to the head in hockey.

They actually trust politicians and bureaucrats, despite them being the biggest bunch of murderers ever.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Canucks most likely have more guns per capita than the Swedes for what it is worth, we just don't see the point in having guns that are either kept under our pillow or can shoot a hundred rounds before requiring reloading.

Sweden requires a check for mental stability before you can purchase a gun, does it not?

If you are not from Sweden, then stop being a poser and get the flag that really represents where you are from.
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you obviously don't get it. moran.
it's about defending yourself from tyranny...
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you obviously don't get it. moran.
it's about defending yourself from tyranny...
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Again... can't you defend yourself with handguns and shotguns? I get it the hole " control thing " but still.
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The "hole".. great education system there in canuck isatn eh?

no.. you obviously DONT get it.
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What good does said gun do for you if it is locked in said cabinet as required by law?

What happens when your curious child finds said gun in your bedside drawer and uses it on one of his siblings or friends, while playing shoot em up?


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Hi,

First, I'm canadian so my opinion on this matter worth shit but here it is anyway..

Why are you guys in US so uptight regarding gun controle? I'm wondering. Sure, the right to have wpn is one of your rigts and fine, keep it. But, can it be restrain to certain type of wpn. Who, in it's right mind needs a military type rifle at home? Are not hand guns and shotguns enough to defend your home?

Damn...
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We don't have automatic rifles...
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We get that you have a right to own guns.

What of the rights of others to live free from some nutjob taking their gun to take them out.
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Automatic weapons have not been involved in any of these shootings.

These are standard rifles, just like any other magazine loading rifle. They simply have AR style rail and accessory mounting systems. They are not and were never intended to be military use. They are standard semi automatic guns.

To get an automatic or suppressed weapon in the us requires a special tax stamp permit and approval of the local sheriffs dept.

The ban is unnecessary, the only argument possible in any sane environment is requiring permits for extended capacity magazines.
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There is no argument from any angle retard.

enforce the laws we have and start teaching personal responsibility in the schools again.. fuckin libs OWN this shit it is all their doing.
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Hi,

First, I'm canadian so my opinion on this matter worth shit but here it is anyway..

Why are you guys in US so uptight regarding gun controle? I'm wondering. Sure, the right to have wpn is one of your rigts and fine, keep it. But, can it be restrain to certain type of wpn. Who, in it's right mind needs a military type rifle at home? Are not hand guns and shotguns enough to defend your home?

Damn...
 Quoting: Korats01


You can own an automatic rifle but it takes a class 3 license which involves approval from local sheriff, fingerprints, passport photos and significant check by govt. expect to wait about 9 months after purchase to actually get it in your hand IF you get approval. What you are talking about is a semi automatic rifle. You still have to pull the trigger for each shot. This require standard background check typically including social security number before they give you possession. I have been at the counter and seen other customers turned away because some flag was raised.
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IT IS NOT a "class 3 license".. it is a fucking TAX!~!!

a 200 dollar TAX!!

more revenue generation.
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Automatic rifles are already illegal.
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Nope.

Some US states allow fully automatic weapons to be owned by citizens.
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Thanks for playing, but our laws on automatic weapons are far more complex.

I'm not going to bother to explain it to you, you're not a citizen so why do you even care?
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Someone, please start an FAQ thread on this.

Do we really have to explain everything to you foreign dumbasses on every single firearms-related thread at GLP?

sigh
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Why don't we let everyone have heat seeking miniguns mounted on top of their houses while we're at it?
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Hi,

First, I'm canadian so my opinion on this matter worth shit but here it is anyway..

Why are you guys in US so uptight regarding gun controle? I'm wondering. Sure, the right to have wpn is one of your rigts and fine, keep it. But, can it be restrain to certain type of wpn. Who, in it's right mind needs a military type rifle at home? Are not hand guns and shotguns enough to defend your home?

Damn...
 Quoting: Korats01


A 2004 study by the University of Pennsylvania and I quote "could not credit the assault weapons ban on curbing gun violence". I guess some believe a gun is self aware and will start shooting people. If you want to see how successful strict gun laws are, look at the statistics for Illinois.

In CT, Lanza killed his mother to get the guns he was denied to purchase.
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Who needs shills calling semi-automatic rifles automatic. That's misinformation like the Wash. Post article that said the handguns fired 5 or 6 rounds a second as though they were machine guns. You should got back to shill 101. Military in looks only, not action or performance.
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Hi,

First, I'm canadian so my opinion on this matter worth shit but here it is anyway..

Why are you guys in US so uptight regarding gun controle? I'm wondering. Sure, the right to have wpn is one of your rigts and fine, keep it. But, can it be restrain to certain type of wpn. Who, in it's right mind needs a military type rifle at home? Are not hand guns and shotguns enough to defend your home?

Damn...
 Quoting: Korats01


Remembering my education, the 2nd Amendment isn't about defending your house or hunting it's about overthrowing shitty government that contradicts the US Constitution.

Any american in a "well-regulated militia" that needs to overthrow bad government to ensure a "free state" would certainly need one...

As per the 2nd Amendment of the USA Bill of Rights of December 15, 1791.

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Hi,

First, I'm canadian so my opinion on this matter worth shit but here it is anyway..

Why are you guys in US so uptight regarding gun controle? I'm wondering. Sure, the right to have wpn is one of your rigts and fine, keep it. But, can it be restrain to certain type of wpn. Who, in it's right mind needs a military type rifle at home? Are not hand guns and shotguns enough to defend your home?

Damn...
 Quoting: Korats01


Remembering my education, the 2nd Amendment isn't about defending your house or hunting it's about overthrowing shitty government that contradicts the US Constitution.

Any american in a "well-regulated militia" that needs to overthrow bad government to ensure a "free state" would certainly need one...

As per the 2nd Amendment of the USA Bill of Rights of December 15, 1791.
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Well we can see that is certainly working well for them.
Hmmm...

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Out here in the high plains of Kansas,, while checking cows its normal this time of year to find a new born baby calf being circled by a half a dozen coyotes. I have a 30 round clip in my ranch rifle,, and many times I wish it was 40 as sometimes I cant get them all before they run off.. The ones I don't get will be back,, with 10 more later..

A baby calf is worth $700 to me today and $1500 a year later.. Once you lose 20 or more a winter the profit of ranching goes out the window as land tax,, federal tax, and all the other costs of living just seem to keep showing up in my mail box.

Should I paint a big sign of a red coyote with a red line across it to let them know they cant come into my pastures?

Wake up... This is the real world and we need Real and equal protection from Coyotes,, evil people or our own governments who also have semi auto rifles and pistols that point them at us..

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They are not military type guns or rifles at all. Those in the military have automatic machine type rifles, and you can not buy them as a consumer in the USA. Automatic does not mean what they have you think it means, because they do not know what it means. Semi-automatic is one shot at one time, and that is all. Automatic I think if I heard right by a Veteran on the radio talk show, is a bigger magazine and that is all. Military uses machine gun rifles that shoot fully many bullets at once!





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