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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1352760 Canada 12/21/2012 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Give it a rest you cant help people who dont want to better themselves , I have work with many different reserves and they wilL never improve their own lives , period .Blacks have been free for less time and have made much greater strides and lives for themselves . We have given billions of dollars to these people and it stays with the chiefs of the reservations and those chiefs treat the rest of the tribe like shit . They pay no taxes , they get constant overpayment for their lands and they just dont get off their asses and do fuck all . thats a fact Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1352760 yes, i hear what you are saying. but this feels different this bill c45 affects EVERYONE in canada. everyone needs water. natives are starting this movement....but i predict that ordinary people will join on.... too many people can see what harper is doing is not just wrong, but downright evil. YA OKAY BUT MY PROBLEM IS i JUST SPENT A YEAR PUTTING IN WATER reservoires , pump stations and a 14 million dollar school for a tribe in skookumchuk b.c with 80 inhabitants . To get the contract we had to have 25 percent of our workforce from the reserve ,second day 2 of them quit , next day 1 more quit 1 was 4 hours late and stinking of booze , 3 rd day we offered them the wage if they just stayed at home and the fuckers said thats exactly what they were shooting for . And in the end they burned our work trailers and stole anything they could get their hands on . Ive had similar problems with reserves in fort mac , capilano , red earth , grand prairie, wabasqa and several others . users they are everyone of em . As for water they can take a litlle as 10 grand and build their own reservoirs but they would rather blame the white man just like the american libers do in the states .A ll their reserves are on fresh water river shores and streams , they could solve their own problems if they wanted , so the water works dont work on me "water works"? why are you being so dramatic? no one is crying here. i have heard similar stories. the reserves are a huge money pit. usually the chiefs steal all the money. but really why did you have to hire assholes? you couldn't find anyone better on the reserve? or could you have hired natives from off the reserve? usually the ones with ambition, leave which is too bad. i do think though, that this movement is different because it is being organized mostly by the women. women always work, no matter what situation they are in. exactly what it is is crying . and the chief of the band dictates who you get on your projects and no the women are no better they pop out kids they cant afford solely to boost tribe numbers to get get more money from the gov |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1352760 Canada 12/21/2012 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YA OKAY BUT MY PROBLEM IS i JUST SPENT A YEAR PUTTING IN WATER reservoires , pump stations and a 14 million dollar school for a tribe in skookumchuk b.c with 80 inhabitants . To get the contract we had to have 25 percent of our workforce from the reserve ,second day 2 of them quit , next day 1 more quit 1 was 4 hours late and stinking of booze , 3 rd day we offered them the wage if they just stayed at home and the fuckers said thats exactly what they were shooting for . And in the end they burned our work trailers and stole anything they could get their hands on . Ive had similar problems with reserves in fort mac , capilano , red earth , grand prairie, wabasqa and several others . users they are everyone of em . As for water they can take a litlle as 10 grand and build their own reservoirs but they would rather blame the white man just like the american libers do in the states .A ll their reserves are on fresh water river shores and streams , they could solve their own problems if they wanted , so the water works dont work on me Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1352760 No big deal, let themm get the education so they can bid and get the contracts and then 25% of the workforce can come from outside the Rez, say the ones who don't even qualify for welfare. What were their wages and specific duties? (bottom of the barrel right?) their wages were mandatory fair wage dollars about 30 an hour to clean the stump grinders or drive truck or excavator , trust me we've tried everything |
Silvanus (OP) User ID: 30553109 Canada 12/21/2012 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Give it a rest you cant help people who dont want to better themselves , I have work with many different reserves and they wilL never improve their own lives , period .Blacks have been free for less time and have made much greater strides and lives for themselves . We have given billions of dollars to these people and it stays with the chiefs of the reservations and those chiefs treat the rest of the tribe like shit . They pay no taxes , they get constant overpayment for their lands and they just dont get off their asses and do fuck all . thats a fact Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1352760 yes, i hear what you are saying. but this feels different this bill c45 affects EVERYONE in canada. everyone needs water. natives are starting this movement....but i predict that ordinary people will join on.... too many people can see what harper is doing is not just wrong, but downright evil. YA OKAY BUT MY PROBLEM IS i JUST SPENT A YEAR PUTTING IN WATER reservoires , pump stations and a 14 million dollar school for a tribe in skookumchuk b.c with 80 inhabitants . To get the contract we had to have 25 percent of our workforce from the reserve ,second day 2 of them quit , next day 1 more quit 1 was 4 hours late and stinking of booze , 3 rd day we offered them the wage if they just stayed at home and the fuckers said thats exactly what they were shooting for . And in the end they burned our work trailers and stole anything they could get their hands on . Ive had similar problems with reserves in fort mac , capilano , red earth , grand prairie, wabasqa and several others . users they are everyone of em . As for water they can take a litlle as 10 grand and build their own reservoirs but they would rather blame the white man just like the american libers do in the states .A ll their reserves are on fresh water river shores and streams , they could solve their own problems if they wanted , so the water works dont work on me I'm sorry to hear about your experience. That's really unfortunate, Although I do believe it's quite harsh to say that natives are all "users" considering that white's are just as guilty. The proof is all around you, we rob each other blind all the time! All one has to do is turn on the news to see that all races have issues. This movement is not about skin color, it's about unity. It's about ALL Canadians. I can tell you that i have spend alot of time around Natives my entire life and many are very respectful, honest people. everyone has different experiences, so stereotyping is not solving anything here, it only creates a greater divide. There is alot of healing to be done in the near future and pointing the finger is not the answer. I don't see anyone asking for handouts here, what I do see is people asking for respect of human life and the environment. It has been clearly stated that this is not a "native" movenent, we are all affected by this corrupt system. |
Silvanus (OP) User ID: 30553109 Canada 12/21/2012 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742 it needs to come from love though. love of the land. love of the air. love of the water. love of each other. angry protests based on hatred of what is, will only fuel their strength. gatherings based on love of what is truly important and organizing to protect that, will be what sustains a lasting movement. ONE LOVE |
Mi'Kmaq User ID: 883595 Puerto Rico 12/21/2012 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | too many people can see what harper is doing is not just wrong, but downright evil. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742 PM Martin was neck deep in setting this up where the Gov listens to the international corps over the voice of the Voters (while still taking their money) Check out Harper's speech in Cancun and compare it what Martin was saying in terms of a North American Union open borders only for business, citizens are going anywhere. They also have the border locked down and are turning people away that they think mite be a problem,like Family members who want to go visit their relatives,ect... yeah true. i heard that as well. wouldn't it be great to see it spread all across 'turtle island'? :) Well I can say from personal experience that the border is locked down! And yes that would be an amazing thing to be part of! |
Mi'Kmaq User ID: 883595 Puerto Rico 12/21/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742 it needs to come from love though. love of the land. love of the air. love of the water. love of each other. angry protests based on hatred of what is, will only fuel their strength. gatherings based on love of what is truly important and organizing to protect that, will be what sustains a lasting movement. ONE LOVE YES! and a large Party! |
Silvanus (OP) User ID: 30553109 Canada 12/21/2012 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MHz PM Martin was neck deep in setting this up where the Gov listens to the international corps over the voice of the Voters (while still taking their money) Check out Harper's speech in Cancun and compare it what Martin was saying in terms of a North American Union open borders only for business, citizens are going anywhere. They also have the border locked down and are turning people away that they think mite be a problem,like Family members who want to go visit their relatives,ect... yeah true. i heard that as well. wouldn't it be great to see it spread all across 'turtle island'? :) Well I can say from personal experience that the border is locked down! And yes that would be an amazing thing to be part of! I didn't know that! |
MHz User ID: 25505891 Canada 12/21/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | their wages were mandatory fair wage dollars about 30 an hour to clean the stump grinders or drive truck or excavator , trust me we've tried everything Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1352760 That sounds quite fair. So is that it is a temp job and not a 'career' that there is no long term incentive. What about if they owned the machines, whole new set of problems I agree but you are looking at a society that has been told to sit down and shut up and don't do anything for almost 100 years. (while the leaders are trained in how to be as corrupt as out Gov has always been) That is sort of why I suggested then having their own 'contracts' like a smoke house that allowed visitors under some pretty strict guidelines and lots of travel to other lands in person as a 'family outing' which has to expand their horizons in that they will see some things they like and some they don't like. Then the desire to join might be stronger and the Rez seen as a place that is desirable to visit as more than a Provincial Part that they have whether of not they want it on their land. |
Yes I Did !!!! User ID: 30193331 United States 12/21/2012 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh his rant, just a bunch of fucks who need to learn some responsibility. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19783609 Nothing to see here. Liberalism at its finest. Well I'm no Liberal, and I believe man has ruined this planet !!! If you want to talk about "lack of responsibility".... just take a look at what businesses and corporations have done to the environment here in the USA. The American Indians respected the earth and the animals... this society has NO respect for either, and certainly will not claim any responsibility for the pollution of the air, water, soil, food.... you name it. We ALL need to get back to basics - to hell with industrial BS. "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." ~ Albert Einstein |
MHz User ID: 25505891 Canada 12/21/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They also have the border locked down and are turning people away that they think mite be a problem,like Family members who want to go visit their relatives,ect... Quoting: Mi'Kmaq Oops my bad, that should be are NOT going anywhere Why doesn't the Rez star a WOW type game where 'clients pay per month' and they get to travel through both Americas based on the Tribes before we came along. Make it as true to the actual customs that existed. If they have a desire to increase the knowledge of their past to the outside world that would be one way and the 'game' would be built using the skills of the people on the Rez itself rather than an outside company doing that end of it and collecting the profits. Part of the game would be seeing how they would adapt to a huge increase in the population of the tribes as the white man would be coming looking for sanctuary rather that conquest of the land. A simple Sim game could be rolled out quite quickly as some material is already available but the 'missions' (ie steal a horse from another Band, capture a wife or rescue a wife once a cast of characters is in place. The OT vision quest could be real drugs in a real Smokehouse with some adults who know what is going on running that part. They weren't lethargic before the REz so conditions there are the cause of today's issue. Two months traveling the world each year for 5 years would break that cycle because new sensory input is happening but it has to be a family affair. Last Edited by MHz on 12/21/2012 08:23 PM |
Mi'Kmaq User ID: 883595 Puerto Rico 12/21/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mi'Kmaq They also have the border locked down and are turning people away that they think mite be a problem,like Family members who want to go visit their relatives,ect... yeah true. i heard that as well. wouldn't it be great to see it spread all across 'turtle island'? :) Well I can say from personal experience that the border is locked down! And yes that would be an amazing thing to be part of! I didn't know that! Oh yeah! It's been locked down for months! I tried to go to LeHave,N.S. to a family doins and they would'nt let me in!That was in August.......... |
Silvanus (OP) User ID: 30553109 Canada 12/21/2012 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh his rant, just a bunch of fucks who need to learn some responsibility. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19783609 Nothing to see here. Liberalism at its finest. Well I'm no Liberal, and I believe man has ruined this planet !!! If you want to talk about "lack of responsibility".... just take a look at what businesses and corporations have done to the environment here in the USA. The American Indians respected the earth and the animals... this society has NO respect for either, and certainly will not claim any responsibility for the pollution of the air, water, soil, food.... you name it. We ALL need to get back to basics - to hell with industrial BS. I agree 100% |
Mi'Kmaq User ID: 883595 Puerto Rico 12/21/2012 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh his rant, just a bunch of fucks who need to learn some responsibility. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19783609 Nothing to see here. Liberalism at its finest. Well I'm no Liberal, and I believe man has ruined this planet !!! If you want to talk about "lack of responsibility".... just take a look at what businesses and corporations have done to the environment here in the USA. The American Indians respected the earth and the animals... this society has NO respect for either, and certainly will not claim any responsibility for the pollution of the air, water, soil, food.... you name it. We ALL need to get back to basics - to hell with industrial BS. I agree 100% Now that is right thinking!Bless you both!......... |
Silvanus (OP) User ID: 30553109 Canada 12/21/2012 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742 yeah true. i heard that as well. wouldn't it be great to see it spread all across 'turtle island'? :) Well I can say from personal experience that the border is locked down! And yes that would be an amazing thing to be part of! I didn't know that! Oh yeah! It's been locked down for months! I tried to go to LeHave,N.S. to a family doins and they would'nt let me in!That was in August.......... That's really sad, sorry to hear about that... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1352760 Canada 12/21/2012 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh his rant, just a bunch of fucks who need to learn some responsibility. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19783609 Nothing to see here. Liberalism at its finest. Well I'm no Liberal, and I believe man has ruined this planet !!! If you want to talk about "lack of responsibility".... just take a look at what businesses and corporations have done to the environment here in the USA. The American Indians respected the earth and the animals... this society has NO respect for either, and certainly will not claim any responsibility for the pollution of the air, water, soil, food.... you name it. We ALL need to get back to basics - to hell with industrial BS. I agree 100% sorry I dont mean to be combative but man only inhahabits less than 5 percent of all earths available lands so quit beleiving what they tell you all the time , they say those things so you will think maybe we should spend more of our earned dollars on greening this place up . And in actual fact it all for the kickbacks , trust me I know I was raised by a politician |
Mi'Kmaq User ID: 883595 Puerto Rico 12/21/2012 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mi'Kmaq Well I can say from personal experience that the border is locked down! And yes that would be an amazing thing to be part of! I didn't know that! Oh yeah! It's been locked down for months! I tried to go to LeHave,N.S. to a family doins and they would'nt let me in!That was in August.......... That's really sad, sorry to hear about that... Naw there was a reason for it!the reason is that TPTB there in Canada think they can get away with anything Just like the TPTB here in the states think they can just run rough shod over anyone that gets in their way!I say B.S.!Stand up against tyranny,where your so called Elected Officials run rampant over your lives! stand up and be part of something real,not more of the same old B>S>!.......... |
MHz User ID: 25505891 Canada 12/21/2012 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Naw there was a reason for it!the reason is that TPTB there in Canada think they can get away with anything Just like the TPTB here in the states think they can just run rough shod over anyone that gets in their way!I say B.S.!Stand up against tyranny,where your so called Elected Officials run rampant over your lives! stand up and be part of something real,not more of the same old B>S>!.......... Quoting: Mi'Kmaq Care to show 'us' how that is done exactly cause part of it includes ending the Rothschild banking system of it doesn't matter what other changes are made it is all window dressing. Last Edited by MHz on 12/21/2012 08:31 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26372742 Canada 12/21/2012 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Naw there was a reason for it!the reason is that TPTB there in Canada think they can get away with anything Just like the TPTB here in the states think they can just run rough shod over anyone that gets in their way!I say B.S.!Stand up against tyranny,where your so called Elected Officials run rampant over your lives! stand up and be part of something real,not more of the same old B>S>!.......... Quoting: Mi'Kmaq Care to show 'us' how that is done exactly cause part of it includes ending the Rothschild banking system of it doesn't matter what other changes are made it is all window dressing. bio-regional collectives |
Mi'Kmaq User ID: 883595 Puerto Rico 12/21/2012 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Naw there was a reason for it!the reason is that TPTB there in Canada think they can get away with anything Just like the TPTB here in the states think they can just run rough shod over anyone that gets in their way!I say B.S.!Stand up against tyranny,where your so called Elected Officials run rampant over your lives! stand up and be part of something real,not more of the same old B>S>!.......... Quoting: Mi'Kmaq Care to show 'us' how that is done exactly cause part of it includes ending the Rothschild banking system of it doesn't matter what other changes are made it is all window dressing. Well the first thing that comes to mind is that we all sould take a lesson from the people in Iceland that did just that not to long ago!................... |
Silvanus (OP) User ID: 30553109 Canada 12/21/2012 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Naw there was a reason for it!the reason is that TPTB there in Canada think they can get away with anything Just like the TPTB here in the states think they can just run rough shod over anyone that gets in their way!I say B.S.!Stand up against tyranny,where your so called Elected Officials run rampant over your lives! stand up and be part of something real,not more of the same old B>S>!.......... Quoting: Mi'Kmaq Care to show 'us' how that is done exactly cause part of it includes ending the Rothschild banking system of it doesn't matter what other changes are made it is all window dressing. absolutely true the global banking Cartel needs to be removed from the Country. We must follow Iceland's example. |
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Silvanus (OP) User ID: 30553109 Canada 12/21/2012 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh his rant, just a bunch of fucks who need to learn some responsibility. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19783609 Nothing to see here. Liberalism at its finest. Well I'm no Liberal, and I believe man has ruined this planet !!! If you want to talk about "lack of responsibility".... just take a look at what businesses and corporations have done to the environment here in the USA. The American Indians respected the earth and the animals... this society has NO respect for either, and certainly will not claim any responsibility for the pollution of the air, water, soil, food.... you name it. We ALL need to get back to basics - to hell with industrial BS. I agree 100% sorry I dont mean to be combative but man only inhahabits less than 5 percent of all earths available lands so quit beleiving what they tell you all the time , they say those things so you will think maybe we should spend more of our earned dollars on greening this place up . And in actual fact it all for the kickbacks , trust me I know I was raised by a politician Humans may only inhabit 5% of our land, but industrial pollution's effects are global. Fukushima and Alberta's Tar sand's are prime examples, among countless others. Scrapping our insane military budget alone would free up plenty of resources to repair the damage we've done. Instead of wasting our resources on more crap that we don't need, why not learn to live in balance with our surroundings and respect the earth we live on? It's either that or we won't have a planet to live on soon, this is very obvious. |
MHz User ID: 25505891 Canada 12/21/2012 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | absolutely true the global banking Cartel needs to be removed from the Country. We must follow Iceland's example. Quoting: Silvanus True again, however they do not let Nations just walk away, as small as Canada is they get $60B just in interest fees on our national debt. Do that ratio for the world and that is close to what the real problem looks like. The vid below touches on that, when PM Martins says it would 'create problems if we went back to printing our own money' he means it would cost us more than $60B a year to fight them and their proxy warriors. Last Edited by MHz on 12/21/2012 08:56 PM |
Silvanus (OP) User ID: 30553109 Canada 12/21/2012 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | absolutely true the global banking Cartel needs to be removed from the Country. We must follow Iceland's example. Quoting: Silvanus True again, however they do not let Nations just walk away, as small as Canada is they get $60B just in interest fees on our national debt. Do that ratio for the world and that is close to what the real problem looks like. The vid below touches on that, when PM Martins says it would 'create problem' he means it would cost us more than $60B a year to fight them and their proxy warriors. That's a great video! And yes i'm aware of this problem, it's not just the financial threat, the Rothschild Cabal is the driving force in control of Israel's Military Arsenal. There is a reason why they are nuclear "opaque". So I see why Countries are so afraid to separate themselves. It would take a massive, combined global effort to take them down. |
Silvanus (OP) User ID: 30553109 Canada 12/21/2012 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because of Canada's ties to the Queen and the Monarch, I believe it's important for us to know the Truth about it. Right now, one of the largest whitewashing campaigns is happening concerning the documentary titled "unlawful killing". If you with to know the truth, get a copy while you still can! Last Edited by LeisureLee on 12/21/2012 09:32 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26372742 Canada 12/21/2012 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because of Canada's ties to the Queen and the Monarch, I believe it's important for us to know the Truth about it. Right now, one of the largest whitewashing campaigns is happening concerning the documentary titles "unlawful killing". If you with to know the truth, get a copy while you still can! Quoting: Silvanus is it available online? |
Silvanus (OP) User ID: 30553109 Canada 12/21/2012 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because of Canada's ties to the Queen and the Monarch, I believe it's important for us to know the Truth about it. Right now, one of the largest whitewashing campaigns is happening concerning the documentary titles "unlawful killing". If you with to know the truth, get a copy while you still can! Quoting: Silvanus is it available online? yes, only available via torrent. Apparently those links are disappearing too...just do a google search for it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30525185 United States 12/21/2012 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh his rant, just a bunch of fucks who need to learn some responsibility. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19783609 Nothing to see here. Liberalism at its finest. Well I'm no Liberal, and I believe man has ruined this planet !!! If you want to talk about "lack of responsibility".... just take a look at what businesses and corporations have done to the environment here in the USA. The American Indians respected the earth and the animals... this society has NO respect for either, and certainly will not claim any responsibility for the pollution of the air, water, soil, food.... you name it. We ALL need to get back to basics - to hell with industrial BS. Sanest most accurate thing I have heard all year. |