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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15464150  Canada12/21/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP. Not all Europeans are the same bloodline. Second I was forced to read the King James Bible over and over again as a child and teenager then rebelled. But I remember that Esau's curse / the yoke of Jacob would be lifted, through war which is what they have done. This is in the old testament written by God's prophets. Third, the Appocrypha has 2nd Maccabees which says Jesus aslo looks like a feathered serpent like the Atecs / Myans Quezelacoatal. Soooooo, easy there. There is a major difference between a Dane, Finn, Swede, vs. a Khazarian swarthy caucasian. |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/21/2012 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | from the fight in the womb God the father had told rebecca there were two nations in her belly and revealed the prophecy. Satan seed was in esau and jacob was Gods seed. Looking back at cain and abel it was the same thing satan seed was CAIN he slew abel so God gave them the appointed son seth. Cain and Abel were twins, also!  Gen 4:1 ¶ And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. One 'knew'...intercourse One 'conception'...of TWO eggs TWO 'bare'...twins, one born after the other that is correct satan's child and God's child 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30577420 Australia12/21/2012 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of that jacob story is self justifying jewish fable. This is how they justify lying and cheating and still see themselves as righteous or favoured by God. It has nothing in common with The Way, The Truth and The Life. The bible doesn't say that it can't or wouldn't be altered or changed by those who wish to distort it's message for their own purposes, only that there are severe punishments for those that do. |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/21/2012 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP. Not all Europeans are the same bloodline. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15464150 Second I was forced to read the King James Bible over and over again as a child and teenager then rebelled. But I remember that Esau's curse / the yoke of Jacob would be lifted, through war which is what they have done. This is in the old testament written by God's prophets. Third, the Appocrypha has 2nd Maccabees which says Jesus aslo looks like a feathered serpent like the Atecs / Myans Quezelacoatal. Soooooo, easy there. There is a major difference between a Dane, Finn, Swede, vs. a Khazarian swarthy caucasian. don't get me wrong there is a particular clan of esau who is carrying on the promise of esau to destroy jacob.This is one of the mistakes people make when Israel is teaching because there are some really stupid guys in and around NY who are discriminating against whites. There are many of israel will not be saved in the last day because they are all stubborn and hard headed just like many gentiles will not be saved for the same reason. The mission is the awake the spirit of ISRAEL TO COME BACK TO SERVING THE CREATOR AS COMMANDED AND ALSO TEACH THE GENTILE NATIONS THE SAME. 19 Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt. 20 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God; him shalt thou serve, and to him shalt thou cleave, and swear by his name. Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/21/2012 09:12 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/21/2012 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of that jacob story is self justifying jewish fable. This is how they justify lying and cheating and still see themselves as righteous or favoured by God. It has nothing in common with The Way, The Truth and The Life. The bible doesn't say that it can't or wouldn't be altered or changed by those who wish to distort it's message for their own purposes, only that there are severe punishments for those that do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30577420 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all peoples that are upon the face of the earth. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19271799 Canada12/21/2012 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP. Not all Europeans are the same bloodline. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15464150 Second I was forced to read the King James Bible over and over again as a child and teenager then rebelled. But I remember that Esau's curse / the yoke of Jacob would be lifted, through war which is what they have done. This is in the old testament written by God's prophets. Third, the Appocrypha has 2nd Maccabees which says Jesus aslo looks like a feathered serpent like the Atecs / Myans Quezelacoatal. Soooooo, easy there. There is a major difference between a Dane, Finn, Swede, vs. a Khazarian swarthy caucasian. I agree with this ^^^^ All so called whites are not Esau. I don't believe that the countries that you listed are Esau because those countries are not recognized for their aggression and violence. I think that the representatives of Esau were involved in the scramble for Africa (except Russia...obviously). These are also the same countries that conquered the world by sword. I would add Switzerland. |
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| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/21/2012 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP. Not all Europeans are the same bloodline. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15464150 Second I was forced to read the King James Bible over and over again as a child and teenager then rebelled. But I remember that Esau's curse / the yoke of Jacob would be lifted, through war which is what they have done. This is in the old testament written by God's prophets. Third, the Appocrypha has 2nd Maccabees which says Jesus aslo looks like a feathered serpent like the Atecs / Myans Quezelacoatal. Soooooo, easy there. There is a major difference between a Dane, Finn, Swede, vs. a Khazarian swarthy caucasian. I agree with this ^^^^ All so called whites are not Esau. I don't believe that the countries that you listed are Esau because those countries are not recognized for their aggression and violence. I think that the representatives of Esau were involved in the scramble for Africa (except Russia...obviously). These are also the same countries that conquered the world by sword. I would add Switzerland. don't get me wrong there is a particular clan of esau who is carrying on the promise of esau to destroy jacob.This is one of the mistakes people make when Israel is teaching because there are some really stupid guys in and around NY who are discriminating against whites. There are many of israel will not be saved in the last day because they are all stubborn and hard headed just like many gentiles will not be saved for the same reason. The mission is the awake the spirit of ISRAEL TO COME BACK TO SERVING THE CREATOR AS COMMANDED AND ALSO TEACH THE GENTILE NATIONS THE SAME. 19 Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt. 20 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God; him shalt thou serve, and to him shalt thou cleave, and swear by his name. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/21/2012 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're doin' the Saturday sabbath thing aren't you, Neim, you know your half way there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30577420 yes sir doing a study right now..thank you for asking ...shabbat shalom 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30409982 United States12/21/2012 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of that jacob story is self justifying jewish fable. This is how they justify lying and cheating and still see themselves as righteous or favoured by God. It has nothing in common with The Way, The Truth and The Life. The bible doesn't say that it can't or wouldn't be altered or changed by those who wish to distort it's message for their own purposes, only that there are severe punishments for those that do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30577420 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all peoples that are upon the face of the earth. Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him. Mal 3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not. Not all of the Jews are 'chosen'...only the ones that SERVE HIM! |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/21/2012 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of that jacob story is self justifying jewish fable. This is how they justify lying and cheating and still see themselves as righteous or favoured by God. It has nothing in common with The Way, The Truth and The Life. The bible doesn't say that it can't or wouldn't be altered or changed by those who wish to distort it's message for their own purposes, only that there are severe punishments for those that do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30577420 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all peoples that are upon the face of the earth. Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him. Mal 3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not. Not all of the Jews are 'chosen'...only the ones that SERVE HIM! exactly my point same goes to the gentiles the difference though is that they are his special people and they are 144000 special ones he will select 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30577420 Australia12/21/2012 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not that interested in the Jewish histories and I have to presume at least some of it's been distorted by rabbis to flatter themselves, and other bits are downright whacky eg golden 'emerods'. I tend to go with the theory that one's conscience is one's contract with God and that satan's job is to make people break their contract by acting against their conscience. Not everybody has a conscience, therefore not all have a contract with God. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1370992 Canada12/21/2012 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | satan is the father of lies, God hates all liars. These are biblical quotes, so why would God favour a liar? It doesn't make, there's got to be another dimension to the story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30577420 God hates all liars? Nah! God doesn't hate, he forgives. I think you should pray and ask for forgiveness, talking falsely about God. |
| Shamar User ID: 1479302 United States12/21/2012 09:30 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | satan is the father of lies, God hates all liars. These are biblical quotes, so why would God favour a liar? It doesn't make, there's got to be another dimension to the story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30577420 God's will , will be done.......he uses the best of us, and he uses the worst of us. And he uses many methods......remember,it's a war out there... a spiritual war. He had a plan, it was prophesied, and it WILL be carried out. Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/21/2012 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not that interested in the Jewish histories and I have to presume at least some of it's been distorted by rabbis to flatter themselves, and other bits are downright whacky eg golden 'emerods'. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30577420 I tend to go with the theory that one's conscience is one's contract with God and that satan's job is to make people break their contract by acting against their conscience. Not everybody has a conscience, therefore not all have a contract with God. we all have that spirit you call the conscience but some of us been scarred as children and hardened by circumstance.There was no one to show them right from wrong. There are those who willfully do wrong because they like it so and they learned to shut of the good spirit in their body. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20657814 United States12/21/2012 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Esau did nothing wrong, he was hungry and tired and his brother cheated him out of his inheritance - Jacob was a schemer and a conniver, like satan. God's favouring of the cheat is a parable telling us that the evil doers and guileful would prosper in the world, while the honest person would be cheated of their inheritance, until... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30577420 Yeah, that story is even similar to Cain and Abel. God favored the blood sacrifice and didn't want anything to do with vegetables or fruit. He needed blood. God is always on the side of the evil doers, it seems. Could that be because God is evil? |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/21/2012 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Esau did nothing wrong, he was hungry and tired and his brother cheated him out of his inheritance - Jacob was a schemer and a conniver, like satan. God's favouring of the cheat is a parable telling us that the evil doers and guileful would prosper in the world, while the honest person would be cheated of their inheritance, until... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30577420 Yeah, that story is even similar to Cain and Abel. God favored the blood sacrifice and didn't want anything to do with vegetables or fruit. He needed blood. God is always on the side of the evil doers, it seems. Could that be because God is evil? No he knew there was the serpent seed in cain because of the sin of eve...you have to understand the book before you make that assessment 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Shamar User ID: 1479302 United States12/21/2012 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Esau did nothing wrong, he was hungry and tired and his brother cheated him out of his inheritance - Jacob was a schemer and a conniver, like satan. God's favouring of the cheat is a parable telling us that the evil doers and guileful would prosper in the world, while the honest person would be cheated of their inheritance, until... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30577420 Yeah, that story is even similar to Cain and Abel. God favored the blood sacrifice and didn't want anything to do with vegetables or fruit. He needed blood. God is always on the side of the evil doers, it seems. Could that be because God is evil? actually, that's not true.. that's a twist in the *story*..God did nt favor blood. Ever. Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 560401 United States12/21/2012 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take a seat and put on your glasses.From this day I hope you Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar ALL SEE THAT I AM BRINGING YOU TO THE LIGHT AND IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP FROM SLUMBER. I AM NOT YOUR ENEMY BUT A FRIEND AND ONE DAY YOU WILL THANK ME FOR THIS. :ERTYTRYT: THE OLDER BOOKS USE TO HAVE ALL THIS INFORMATION BUT OVER THE YEARS THEY STARTED FILTERING OUT THE TRUTH PRODUCING UPDATED EDITIONS. WHEN THEY REALIZED THAT THE MINORITIES WERE NOW BEING EDUCATED AT HIGHER LEVELS THIS WAS A THREAT TO THEIR KINGDOM THE BOOK OF THE WARS OF GOD/JASHER 1 And when the year came round, being the seventy-second year from the Yisraelites going down to Egypt, after the death of Yoseph, Zepho, the son of Eliphaz, the son of Esau, fled from Egypt, he and his men, and they went away 24 And the children of Chittim [Greece] saw the valor of Zepho, and the children of Chittim resolved and they made Zepho king over them, and he became king over them, and while he reigned they went to subdue the children of Tubal, and all the surrounding islands. 25 And their king Zepho went at their head and they made war with Tubal and the islands, and they subdued them, and when they returned from the battle they renewed his government for him, and they built for him a very large palace for his royal habitation and seat, and they made a large throne for him, and Zepho reigned over the whole land of Chittim[GREECE] and over the land of Italia[ROME] fifty years. :BNFGERFR: I AM WARNING YOU NEIM TO HUSH YOUR MOUTH! Please - another nut job spreading his reality as history. Sometimes it's vice versa GLP. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30577420 Australia12/21/2012 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | satan is the father of lies, God hates all liars. These are biblical quotes, so why would God favour a liar? It doesn't make, there's got to be another dimension to the story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30577420 God hates all liars? Nah! God doesn't hate, he forgives. I think you should pray and ask for forgiveness, talking falsely about God. Forgiveness is dependant on repentance, those who genuinely repent, turn away from sin [link to www.openbible.info] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30577420 Australia12/21/2012 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not that interested in the Jewish histories and I have to presume at least some of it's been distorted by rabbis to flatter themselves, and other bits are downright whacky eg golden 'emerods'. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30577420 I tend to go with the theory that one's conscience is one's contract with God and that satan's job is to make people break their contract by acting against their conscience. Not everybody has a conscience, therefore not all have a contract with God. we all have that spirit you call the conscience but some of us been scarred as children and hardened by circumstance.There was no one to show them right from wrong. There are those who willfully do wrong because they like it so and they learned to shut of the good spirit in their body. Sociopaths have no conscience. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30577420 Australia12/21/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Esau did nothing wrong, he was hungry and tired and his brother cheated him out of his inheritance - Jacob was a schemer and a conniver, like satan. God's favouring of the cheat is a parable telling us that the evil doers and guileful would prosper in the world, while the honest person would be cheated of their inheritance, until... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30577420 Yeah, that story is even similar to Cain and Abel. God favored the blood sacrifice and didn't want anything to do with vegetables or fruit. He needed blood. God is always on the side of the evil doers, it seems. Could that be because God is evil? No he knew there was the serpent seed in cain because of the sin of eve...you have to understand the book before you make that assessment yeah the warring brothers thing, I'm not that big on the OT, like I said in a recent post, a lot of it doesn't reconcile well with what Jesus said, or what his life illustrated, but no, I don't go in for the OT God being an evil demiurge, like the gnostics and some of the hippie types try to push that idea. I don't have to have a concept penciled in there, I just believe. My faith isn't based on bible study, it comes out of direct personal experience of the supernatural, but yeah I have read the bible. |
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