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Top Democrat On Gun Control: “Confiscation Could Be an Option”

 
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That is TREASON against the people of the United states, if he did say this then he, at a minimum has conspired to commit TREASON against the US people and the constitution. He should be arrested!!!
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So, go file a criminal charge against him. Until that happens its a moot point.
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Did you flunk out of law school? Can we see your records? Oh you were a constitutional lecturer is that it. Or are you just pulling our legs barry and co. Your arguments are null and void and you can stop with the jargon of making up shit as you see fit and the book you refer to is like first year political science crap in a liberals wet dream. yes they even existed back in the 1800's just that nobody listened to them retards because their analysis were completely off base and wrong.militia
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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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Ad hominem attacks won't work I gave you proof from contemporaries.
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Honestly I don't even understand your "proof", you're so dense and obtuse quoting some passage from who knows what book, no one gives a fuck about your rhetoric, the fact that Americans have a long tradition of gun ownership approved by the founding fathers is not debatable, the issue here is how you lefties are trying to end this tradition as you are trying to end ALL traditions. It's clear by the current state of our societies that it is working oh SO well....rolleyes
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The book was written by the contemporaries of the founding fathers they were privy to the most information read what the contemporary scholars said.You are in denial
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You're full of shit, not even worth taking the time, go spread your BS somewhere else, you're wasting your time here, no one buys what you sell.
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Classic you can't deny the proof so you attack the messenger refute the claim made by the founding fathers contemporaries in that book
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SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01


There won't be a war if you peacefully give up your guns like proper citizens instead of acting like a bunch of vigilantes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031


Our guns are too protect us from vigilantes, i would agree with you if guns never existed, yes in a perfect world we should not have guns. Matter of fact is there are millions of guns in america, so many that it would impossible to even confiscate the majority of them. Because of this, disarming law abiding citizens just lowers the count of so called "responsible guns' on the street, while having criminals maintaining the already ridiculous amount of weapons they have illegally required. But hey pot's illegal, and it hasnt been in america in years! oh wait....
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There are alternative means of defending onself how about a stun gun or mace and even pepper spray and Directed energy weapons
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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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Top Democrat On Gun Control: “Confiscation Could Be an Option”

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They are insane if they try that....
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They will start a civil or uncivil war...

Maybe thats what they want so they can impose marshall law.
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If there is a civil war it needs to be the 99.9% vs. .01%. It could be over really quick.
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I won this argument I logically presented facts as to why the second amendment is wrong and I also offered logical reason that cannot be doubted as to why guns should be banned I have done my duty of pubic education and service
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You have won nothing nor done any "duty".

You are a fucking retarded, intentionally obtuse, brainless commie halfwit.

You have gotten nowhere trying to propogate your lies.

Die in a fire you POS.
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Just for the truth,

I have the God given right to defend myself and my family even if I have to use biological weapons, chemical weapons AND nuclear weapons to do that. And so do all of you.

It is a God given right!
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You don;t have the God given right to a gun though
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Question, what about all the guns criminals already illegally own? Wont it make it easier for them to commit these mass murders with not as many responsible citizens carrying weapons around? Pro-gun control people seem to assume these guns will cease to exist, now explain that to me? Why is it on average that when a country imposes gun control that there violent crime rate increases? Its because criminals will always have the guns, and by imposing the gun control they will be the some of the few left with them...
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False Dichotomy
Post-hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy
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As I suspected, that poster studied at Hogwarts Academy.

as if Latin produces 'magical words' that defend him in debate.
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I don't care anymore come and take them. I'm sick of it all!! We can't win this fight with out a bloodbath. You stupid fools want a hand out, here have some free lead. I'm gonna die a patriot and not a NWO slave. There is no way this bastard won this election. People were pissed, they were organized for the first time ever and Obongo had nobody even showing at his events.

TPTB are gonna take the guns at some point. this is phase one. We are the worlds largest army. Let's kick some fucking ass!!!!!!!!!!!
Freedom requires breathing room, the Constitution presupposes that there will be some crazies among us so that the rest of us can enjoy freedom. - Judge Andrew Napolitano

A huge shit cloud is coming!
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SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01


There won't be a war if you peacefully give up your guns like proper citizens instead of acting like a bunch of vigilantes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031


Our guns are too protect us from vigilantes, i would agree with you if guns never existed, yes in a perfect world we should not have guns. Matter of fact is there are millions of guns in america, so many that it would impossible to even confiscate the majority of them. Because of this, disarming law abiding citizens just lowers the count of so called "responsible guns' on the street, while having criminals maintaining the already ridiculous amount of weapons they have illegally required. But hey pot's illegal, and it hasnt been in america in years! oh wait....
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There are alternative means of defending onself how about a stun gun or mace and even pepper spray and Directed energy weapons
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They are called guns you fuckwart.
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I won this argument I logically presented facts as to why the second amendment is wrong and I also offered logical reason that cannot be doubted as to why guns should be banned I have done my duty of pubic education and service
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You have won nothing nor done any "duty".

You are a fucking retarded, intentionally obtuse, brainless commie halfwit.

You have gotten nowhere trying to propogate your lies.

Die in a fire you POS.
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Did I hit a nerve I provided proof I gave you the name of the book
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Question, what about all the guns criminals already illegally own? Wont it make it easier for them to commit these mass murders with not as many responsible citizens carrying weapons around? Pro-gun control people seem to assume these guns will cease to exist, now explain that to me? Why is it on average that when a country imposes gun control that there violent crime rate increases? Its because criminals will always have the guns, and by imposing the gun control they will be the some of the few left with them...
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False Dichotomy
Post-hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031


How is this a false dichotomy? that is the biggest fuckin copout i have ever heard address the points i bring up what about all the criminals who STILL will have guns...i realize responding to this requires a semblance of thought and intelligence, something you may not have, so what do you have to say?
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Non-Sequitur I answered your question earlier but since you want it again

If there are no guns in circulation no criminals can have them and if they have them and decide to use them rest assured they wont have it anymore
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"Can" means Ability. Apparently English is not your first language after all. Do yourself a favor, stick to Latin.
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I've been a State Trooper for 11 years and I can tell you right now that not I nor any of my coworkers would attempt to confiscate guns from the people. First of we all believe in the 2nd Ammendment and second, none of us have a death wish. It is that simple.
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Thank you sir!

Please, if they begin confiscation, lend us citizens a hand?
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Well if all of the authorities would be like you it'd be great, however if that'd be the case there wouldn't be swat teams helping banks foreclose homes, officers performing illegal cavity searches for littering nor cops going into people's houses and killing their dogs among a big list of etc. Unfortunately I don't think you're the rule here, most of the authorities will obey orders as they've been programmed to do.
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We have bad apples like every other profession. And eviction by court order for not paying your bills is a far cry from gun control.
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that you never read just a name of a book that is on your list of talking points to try and prove something shill.
Take a hikefuckoff2
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Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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The second amendment was never intended for future developments. Thomas Jefferson


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I won this argument I logically presented facts as to why the second amendment is wrong and I also offered logical reason that cannot be doubted as to why guns should be banned I have done my duty of pubic education and service
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Sorry, Charlie, the Jury disagrees with you. You've lost the debate.
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that you never read just a name of a book that is on your list of talking points to try and prove something shill.
Take a hikefuckoff2
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I read the book cover to cover and it was written by the founding fathers contemporaries

The best thing for you is to do your own research or STFU
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IMO It's about time guns need to ban for citizens in order for modern society to advance barbaric weapons such as weapons have no use. Only law enforcement,military and government should have guns to protect us.
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Idiot. Governments have murdered hundreds of millions of people, and you want only them to have them?
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The ignorant bastard is violating his oath of office!! Blatantly!

What about his OATH of office that included a clause to "PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA"?? The president is NOT the only official that is required to take that pledge as part of their oath of office.

There are legal and lawful means for changing the US Constitution. It's been done often enough with mixed results (look at Prohibition!) But for a Congressman or Senator to just BLATANTLY SUPPORT VIOLATING THE 2nd AMENDMENT is FOOLISH and very BAD FORM - as well as being grounds for his RECALL by his constituents.

There are people who would say it's TREASONOUS to propose such a thing! I'm not sure if that's the case or not. Only a seasoned legal mind could be certain of that fact. However, if the people of the US want to change or alter the 2nd Amendment - then do it legally!

Personally, I suspect that on sober reflection - over time - the majority of the people in the US will come to the conclusion that we have far more to fear from a potentially oppressive government regime than we have to worry about from an occasional nutcase going berserk and shooting up a school. While outlawing guns may take them away from honest citizens (at least from some honest citizens) there will always be a criminal element that manage to obtain and use weapons when and how they please!

As things come out about the boy in Connecticut who is said to have perpetrated these horrors - the fact that he was mentally ill had been obvious for a long time and in many different ways. No one, including his own mother or father were willing or able to insist that he get help. The blame for this tragedy doesn't belong with the Gun Manufacturers. It belongs with parents and a society that would rather deny mental illness exists than help a mentally ill youngster before it's too late to help them!

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False Dichotomy
Post-hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy
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How is this a false dichotomy? that is the biggest fuckin copout i have ever heard address the points i bring up what about all the criminals who STILL will have guns...i realize responding to this requires a semblance of thought and intelligence, something you may not have, so what do you have to say?
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Non-Sequitur I answered your question earlier but since you want it again

If there are no guns in circulation no criminals can have them and if they have them and decide to use them rest assured they wont have it anymore
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"Can" means Ability. Apparently English is not your first language after all. Do yourself a favor, stick to Latin.
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Fallacy of fallacy refute the rest of the information
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False Dichotomy
Post-hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy
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How is this a false dichotomy? that is the biggest fuckin copout i have ever heard address the points i bring up what about all the criminals who STILL will have guns...i realize responding to this requires a semblance of thought and intelligence, something you may not have, so what do you have to say?
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Non-Sequitur I answered your question earlier but since you want it again

If there are no guns in circulation no criminals can have them and if they have them and decide to use them rest assured they wont have it anymore
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031


"Can" means Ability. Apparently English is not your first language after all. Do yourself a favor, stick to Latin.
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Fallacy of fallacy refute the rest of the information
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False Dichotomy
Post-hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031


How is this a false dichotomy? that is the biggest fuckin copout i have ever heard address the points i bring up what about all the criminals who STILL will have guns...i realize responding to this requires a semblance of thought and intelligence, something you may not have, so what do you have to say?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29643034



Non-Sequitur I answered your question earlier but since you want it again

If there are no guns in circulation no criminals can have them and if they have them and decide to use them rest assured they wont have it anymore
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031


"Can" means Ability. Apparently English is not your first language after all. Do yourself a favor, stick to Latin.
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Fallacy of fallacy refute the rest of the information
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Safety in numbers...remember there is no way they can do anything to 100 million gun owners.

We need to make this our slogan.

UNITED WE STAND; DIVIDED WE FALL
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this was a better one.

The tree of Liberty is dying of thirst
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bumpbumpbump
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I won this argument I logically presented facts as to why the second amendment is wrong and I also offered logical reason that cannot be doubted as to why guns should be banned I have done my duty of pubic education and service
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031


You have won nothing nor done any "duty".

You are a fucking retarded, intentionally obtuse, brainless commie halfwit.

You have gotten nowhere trying to propogate your lies.

Die in a fire you POS.
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Did I hit a nerve I provided proof I gave you the name of the book
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That thing is "proof" of nothing.. i already shot it down just by the date alone even if what you proffer is really written there. it is nothing more than hopelessly foolish wishful thinking.

you are just plain pathetic now.. transparent as a paid shill for the commie left.

I wish only the worst for you, once again... die in a fire you POS.
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In all seriousness how many people would actually kill to keep their guns if the time came or just hand them over?

Think outside of what YOU would do, what America as a whole would do.
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Shut the fuck up! Stay out of US politics you fucking socialist tit sucking maggot! Worru about your own failing government!
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Y'all go easy on Mr. Bahamas now, seriously.

Guys, this is all he has left to do until the next hurricane wipes 'em out.

chuckle
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that you never read just a name of a book that is on your list of talking points to try and prove something shill.
Take a hikefuckoff2
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I read the book cover to cover and it was written by the founding fathers contemporaries

The best thing for you is to do your own research or STFU
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These are called STATISTICS, they are use to back up a logical persons argument. Try it sometime :)
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The ignorant bastard is violating his oath of office!! Blatantly!

What about his OATH of office that included a clause to "PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA"?? The president is NOT the only official that is required to take that pledge as part of their oath of office.

There are legal and lawful means for changing the US Constitution. It's been done often enough with mixed results (look at Prohibition!) But for a Congressman or Senator to just BLATANTLY SUPPORT VIOLATING THE 2nd AMENDMENT is FOOLISH and very BAD FORM - as well as being grounds for his RECALL!!
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Obama doesn't have to protect and defend anything especially something as evil as a gun
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The second amendment was never intended for future developments. Thomas Jefferson


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Yawn... more silly lies.
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This is what the founding fathers thought. If the Government turns into a tyrant,they can't hurt the people because the people are wearing armor.


The metal covered people win!!!


They were some smart guys back then.
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The second amendment was never intended for future developments. Thomas Jefferson


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That's some BS out-of-context quote, assuming he even wrote or spoke the words. Suck my balls.

Also, as an asside, I'm getting sick of you dorks citing the Fort Hood shooting as an example of guns doing no good. Military bases keep the guns locked up! Because they're government institutions, they tend to be stupid and not allow concealed carry. You faggots act like everyone is walking around with a rod on Army bases.

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