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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031  Bahamas12/21/2012 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17208041  United States12/21/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is exactly what the Pennsylvania Constitution states for anyone who can't quite understand what is meant by the U.S. Constitution (which isn't as old as the Pennsylvania Constitution) "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." -- Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1, Section 21 The Constitution of Maine is nearly identical. Look at others in the original 13 colonies and you'll see variations of the same. The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT "grant" us rights, they actually LIMIT the ability of the government to infringe upon INALIENABLE rights. Our rights are bestowed upon us by our Creator. They are inseparable from us... residing in us from birth and until death and BEYOND. WE, the people. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24854023 United States12/21/2012 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been a State Trooper for 11 years and I can tell you right now that not I nor any of my coworkers would attempt to confiscate guns from the people. First of we all believe in the 2nd Ammendment and second, none of us have a death wish. It is that simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30442354 Thank you sir.. and thank you for the job you do. Was a deputy myself at one time.. no more though. Had the same response from our major last night. These fuckin euro weenies just dont get it. They try this shit and it will be a bloodbath of epic proportions, no one will want to fill those shoes again. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 United States12/21/2012 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nice try bahama switching words around. Typical liberal progressive communist activity of someone using propaganda and lies to distort the truth. is that you eric and barry with janet telling you what to type. Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01 What did I switch around the original second amendment is: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war And you can research it yourself and your ad hominem attacks won't work I am convincing people why guns should be banned and I am quite logical in my approach Well, doesn't the NDAA declare America as a 'Battleground'? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because we are lazy redneck hillbilly's who really dislike one poster from the Bahamas who keeps spouting off bullshit about our Constitution that has no merit, basis and is based on some make believe idea that the second amendment has been rewrote to say arms instead of armor. Get a clue you liberal lying douchebag. ARmory is where we keep our guns and armor is what we wore in midevil times. I have a original constitution that has been in my family for a very long long time and nowhere and I mean nowhere does it say or inferm what you are saying and yes I am a constitutional scholar and historian. Any other so called facts you like to bring up you fucktard. If not then GTFO and keep your fancy ideas to yourself and  barry, eric and janet.WAKE UP AMERICA  You can ask any well respected historian and they will tell you the original documents say A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war and I have seen the original document myself You lying NRA shills |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States12/21/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMO It's about time guns need to ban for citizens in order for modern society to advance barbaric weapons such as weapons have no use. Only law enforcement,military and government should have guns to protect us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031 Gun are for barbaric people who can't settle disputes peacefully.If you want true power write a letter ,sign a petition and peacefully demonstrate  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1292637 United States12/21/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Armor was only worn when sword fighting was common. Armor was worthless against the English long bow at close range. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651941 Kevlar armor The original second amendment is quite clear it is only pro gun propagandist who o originally twisted it. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Kevlar was first invented in 1965 you fucking half-wit, LONG after the text was written. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29643034 United States12/21/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is exactly what the Pennsylvania Constitution states for anyone who can't quite understand what is meant by the U.S. Constitution (which isn't as old as the Pennsylvania Constitution) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041 "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." -- Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1, Section 21 The Constitution of Maine is nearly identical. Look at others in the original 13 colonies and you'll see variations of the same. The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT "grant" us rights, they actually LIMIT the ability of the government to infringe upon INALIENABLE rights. Our rights are bestowed upon us by our Creator. They are inseparable from us... residing in us from birth and until death and BEYOND. WE, the people.  fuck with us Bahamas, our god given freedoms will not be taken |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nice try bahama switching words around. Typical liberal progressive communist activity of someone using propaganda and lies to distort the truth. is that you eric and barry with janet telling you what to type. Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01 What did I switch around the original second amendment is: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war And you can research it yourself and your ad hominem attacks won't work I am convincing people why guns should be banned and I am quite logical in my approach Well, doesn't the NDAA declare America as a 'Battleground'? Yawn ,your grasping at straws |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29643034 United States12/21/2012 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nice try bahama switching words around. Typical liberal progressive communist activity of someone using propaganda and lies to distort the truth. is that you eric and barry with janet telling you what to type. Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01 What did I switch around the original second amendment is: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war And you can research it yourself and your ad hominem attacks won't work I am convincing people why guns should be banned and I am quite logical in my approach Well, doesn't the NDAA declare America as a 'Battleground'? Yawn ,your grasping at straws yawn, still no link to explain your bullshit interpretation of the 2nd amt. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is exactly what the Pennsylvania Constitution states for anyone who can't quite understand what is meant by the U.S. Constitution (which isn't as old as the Pennsylvania Constitution) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041 "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." -- Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1, Section 21 The Constitution of Maine is nearly identical. Look at others in the original 13 colonies and you'll see variations of the same. The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT "grant" us rights, they actually LIMIT the ability of the government to infringe upon INALIENABLE rights. Our rights are bestowed upon us by our Creator. They are inseparable from us... residing in us from birth and until death and BEYOND. WE, the people. fuck with us Bahamas, our god given freedoms will not be taken Having guns was never in the constitution nor is it a freedom or a basic human right A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Just trust your law enforcement and government they will take care of you after all they are your citizens to. |
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| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 1312616  Spain12/21/2012 08:06 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No they're not, most citizens (except those willing to recluse into the wilderness and form guerrilla armies) will either give their weapons or be murdered by the military police teams. huh? Here let me help you to understand. [link to sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net] "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29643034 United States12/21/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is exactly what the Pennsylvania Constitution states for anyone who can't quite understand what is meant by the U.S. Constitution (which isn't as old as the Pennsylvania Constitution) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041 "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." -- Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1, Section 21 The Constitution of Maine is nearly identical. Look at others in the original 13 colonies and you'll see variations of the same. The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT "grant" us rights, they actually LIMIT the ability of the government to infringe upon INALIENABLE rights. Our rights are bestowed upon us by our Creator. They are inseparable from us... residing in us from birth and until death and BEYOND. WE, the people. fuck with us Bahamas, our god given freedoms will not be taken Having guns was never in the constitution nor is it a freedom or a basic human right A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Just trust your law enforcement and government they will take care of you after all they are your citizens to. Prove that it was never in the Constitution. Prove that it was never in the Constitution. Prove that it was never in the Constitution. |
| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States12/21/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is exactly what the Pennsylvania Constitution states for anyone who can't quite understand what is meant by the U.S. Constitution (which isn't as old as the Pennsylvania Constitution) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041 "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." -- Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1, Section 21 The Constitution of Maine is nearly identical. Look at others in the original 13 colonies and you'll see variations of the same. The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT "grant" us rights, they actually LIMIT the ability of the government to infringe upon INALIENABLE rights. Our rights are bestowed upon us by our Creator. They are inseparable from us... residing in us from birth and until death and BEYOND. WE, the people. fuck with us Bahamas, our god given freedoms will not be taken Having guns was never in the constitution nor is it a freedom or a basic human right A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Just trust your law enforcement and government they will take care of you after all they are your citizens to. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 United States12/21/2012 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been a State Trooper for 11 years and I can tell you right now that not I nor any of my coworkers would attempt to confiscate guns from the people. First of we all believe in the 2nd Ammendment and second, none of us have a death wish. It is that simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30442354 Thank you sir! Please, if they begin confiscation, lend us citizens a hand? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States12/21/2012 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30583851  Exactly. These dumb fucks think they would have a chance against swat or the military. Cunts wouldnt last a minute defending themselvesSpeaking of "cunts".. have a hissy over a .22 round lately? There is a reason we celebrate the 4th.. oh and that thing round about 1812 as well. We are cunts?.. ya.. but you are a nation of pussies. 1812? why does canada still exist? lmfao. Another yank that dont know history. "The War of 1812 was a 32 month military conflict between the United States and the British Empire and their allies which resulted in no territorial change, but a resolution of many issues remaining from the American War of Independence." And what remained of the British task was to switch to Economic Warfare and Psychological Warfare. That is one reason the British troops in 1812 went directly to burn the Library of Congress and the Statehouse of Virginia, do muddy up the water as to whether or not the then 13th Amendment had been truly ratified or not. That Economic Warfare by the British against the USA has carried to this very day. That Psychological Warfare by the British against the USA has carried also to this very day. This is with the British Agents in this thread are doing there pathetic Psyops thing on this tread. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031 What did I switch around the original second amendment is: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war And you can research it yourself and your ad hominem attacks won't work I am convincing people why guns should be banned and I am quite logical in my approach Well, doesn't the NDAA declare America as a 'Battleground'? Yawn ,your grasping at straws yawn, still no link to explain your bullshit interpretation of the 2nd amt. Book:Law and Constitutes of Society Written in 1804 Pages:1459 page 456 Excerpt The second amendment makes well documented material and was determined by contemporary scholars that it has been reconstructed and in fact the original stated with profound documents. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Ask any historian |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17208041 United States12/21/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031 What did I switch around the original second amendment is: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war And you can research it yourself and your ad hominem attacks won't work I am convincing people why guns should be banned and I am quite logical in my approach Well, doesn't the NDAA declare America as a 'Battleground'? Yawn ,your grasping at straws yawn, still no link to explain your bullshit interpretation of the 2nd amt. Seriously, why should we even care what bullshit interpretation he comes back with? He's an idiot. "The right of the people, to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed". We, the people, formed the militia. We, being fearful of an overly powerful central government, retained the right to keep and bear arms in defense of ourselves and our Liberty. We, the people, find ourselves right back where we began... our Liberty being threatened by despots who do not represent us, only their desire for more power. Some of our own do not understand. Enough of us understand perfectly. Enough of us will fight and what we will fight for they cannot separate from us. Liberty. For ourselves, yes. For our posterity. Absolutely. That may be something people in other countries cannot quite comprehend. |
| Manu-Koelbren Shalom. User ID: 1312616 Spain12/21/2012 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been a State Trooper for 11 years and I can tell you right now that not I nor any of my coworkers would attempt to confiscate guns from the people. First of we all believe in the 2nd Ammendment and second, none of us have a death wish. It is that simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30442354 Thank you sir! Please, if they begin confiscation, lend us citizens a hand? Well if all of the authorities would be like you it'd be great, however if that'd be the case there wouldn't be swat teams helping banks foreclose homes, officers performing illegal cavity searches for littering nor cops going into people's houses and killing their dogs among a big list of etc. Unfortunately I don't think you're the rule here, most of the authorities will obey orders as they've been programmed to do. "Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will be utterly ruined." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been a State Trooper for 11 years and I can tell you right now that not I nor any of my coworkers would attempt to confiscate guns from the people. First of we all believe in the 2nd Ammendment and second, none of us have a death wish. It is that simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30442354 You better confiscate guns if you want a job |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yawn, still no link to explain your bullshit interpretation of the 2nd amt. Book:Law and Constitutes of Society Written in 1804 Pages:1459 page 456 Excerpt The second amendment makes well documented material and was determined by contemporary scholars that it has been reconstructed and in fact the original stated with profound documents. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Ask any historian |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24854023 United States12/21/2012 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only reason its there is because the pr -gun propagandist put it there(Deep research of historical records can show you this) to try to replace the original second amendment which reads: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Really?REALLY??.. Ok how bout this you retated fuckstick. PROVE YOUR ASSERTION. LINKS RIGHT FUCKIN NOW! show us your "deep research" cocksucker. NOW! or shut the fuck up! Typical hillbilly to lazy to do anything ask any historian and they can show you the historical documents that confirm what I am saying How bout YOU show them fucktard?.. you wont because you cant. You should be banned. now. |
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| WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 30489425 United States12/21/2012 08:12 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to caselaw.lp.findlaw.com] WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24854023 United States12/21/2012 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just give up your guns ,for the greater good of your country.You don't want more innocent to die Lets say the government does become a tyranny(which I highly doubt because Obama seems nice)even if you have your guns.Think about what the government has like drones ,nukes etc they have weapons that we would consider alien tech and your little guns won't do a thing against a drone a nuke,and missiles Did you hear that guys? We should give up our guns because Obama "seems nice", you present no logic in your arguments every valid point that counters you goes ignored, you haven't even provided a link which supports your bullshit interpretation of OUR 2nd amendment. And the cumstain wont... because he/she/it cannot. |
