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Manu-Koelbren  User ID: 1312616  Spain12/21/2012 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just give up your guns ,for the greater good of your country.You don't want more innocent to die Lets say the government does become a tyranny(which I highly doubt because Obama seems nice)even if you have your guns.Think about what the government has like drones ,nukes etc they have weapons that we would consider alien tech and your little guns won't do a thing against a drone a nuke,and missiles Did you hear that guys? We should give up our guns because Obama "seems nice", you present no logic in your arguments every valid point that counters you goes ignored, you haven't even provided a link which supports your bullshit interpretation of OUR 2nd amendment. Straw man argument I didn't say give up your guns because Obama seems nice I said even if the government becomes a tyranny there high tech weaponry would be way more effective than citizens with guns you can't shoot down a missile or a a nuke or a drone with even the the most powerful guns NO your grasping at straws. Your argument is idiotic, no government will use nuclear weapons on their own territory as they would be undermining themselves by doing so. Drones are something that a well armed citizenry can deal with, not with pepper spray however.  Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29643034  United States12/21/2012 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because you have no argument yet you are stubborn, a bad combination especially on a site like this. If i may ask, why are you here right now? Are you attempting to make an effort to understand what we as american's believe? That cant be the case considering your absolute blind stubbornness on what you believe. Are you hear to try n convert us to what you think? maybe you are but it would be a waste of time considering your illogical viewpoints. Are you here out of boredom just trying to antagonize americans who believe in what our bill of rights has said? most likely out of the three... |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain12/21/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Armor was only worn when sword fighting was common. Armor was worthless against the English long bow at close range. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651941 Kevlar armor The original second amendment is quite clear it is only pro gun propagandist who o originally twisted it. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Arms not armor, where are you getting this moronic argument from? Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031  Bahamas12/21/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nice try bahama switching words around. Typical liberal progressive communist activity of someone using propaganda and lies to distort the truth. is that you eric and barry with janet telling you what to type. Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01 What did I switch around the original second amendment is: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war And you can research it yourself and your ad hominem attacks won't work I am convincing people why guns should be banned and I am quite logical in my approach The gun-grabbing whackjob set is so brainwashed and delusional, it's like a cult. Take the log out of your eye,your so blind and selfish you want to hold onto your guns even after 20 innocent children lost there lives last week. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23651941  United Kingdom12/21/2012 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Armor was only worn when sword fighting was common. Armor was worthless against the English long bow at close range. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651941 Kevlar armor The original second amendment is quite clear it is only pro gun propagandist who o originally twisted it. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Arms not armor, where are you getting this moronic argument from? My information is well documented from respected historians. And the original document said 'armor' and 'in times of war' |
| WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 30489425 United States12/21/2012 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because we are lazy redneck hillbilly's who really dislike one poster from the Bahamas who keeps spouting off bullshit about our Constitution that has no merit, basis and is based on some make believe idea that the second amendment has been rewrote to say arms instead of armor. Get a clue you liberal lying douchebag. ARmory is where we keep our guns and armor is what we wore in midevil times. I have a original constitution that has been in my family for a very long long time and nowhere and I mean nowhere does it say or inferm what you are saying and yes I am a constitutional scholar and historian. Any other so called facts you like to bring up you fucktard. If not then GTFO and keep your fancy ideas to yourself and  barry, eric and janet.WAKE UP AMERICA WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17208041 United States12/21/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." -- Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1, Section 21 The Constitution of Maine is nearly identical. Look at others in the original 13 colonies and you'll see variations of the same. The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT "grant" us rights, they actually LIMIT the ability of the government to infringe upon INALIENABLE rights. Our rights are bestowed upon us by our Creator. They are inseparable from us... residing in us from birth and until death and BEYOND. WE, the people. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24854023  Ireland12/21/2012 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been a State Trooper for 11 years and I can tell you right now that not I nor any of my coworkers would attempt to confiscate guns from the people. First of we all believe in the 2nd Ammendment and second, none of us have a death wish. It is that simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30442354 Thank you sir.. and thank you for the job you do. Was a deputy myself at one time.. no more though. Had the same response from our major last night. These fuckin euro weenies just dont get it. They try this shit and it will be a bloodbath of epic proportions, no one will want to fill those shoes again. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 United States12/21/2012 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nice try bahama switching words around. Typical liberal progressive communist activity of someone using propaganda and lies to distort the truth. is that you eric and barry with janet telling you what to type. Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01 What did I switch around the original second amendment is: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war And you can research it yourself and your ad hominem attacks won't work I am convincing people why guns should be banned and I am quite logical in my approach Well, doesn't the NDAA declare America as a 'Battleground'? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23651941 United Kingdom12/21/2012 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because we are lazy redneck hillbilly's who really dislike one poster from the Bahamas who keeps spouting off bullshit about our Constitution that has no merit, basis and is based on some make believe idea that the second amendment has been rewrote to say arms instead of armor. Get a clue you liberal lying douchebag. ARmory is where we keep our guns and armor is what we wore in midevil times. I have a original constitution that has been in my family for a very long long time and nowhere and I mean nowhere does it say or inferm what you are saying and yes I am a constitutional scholar and historian. Any other so called facts you like to bring up you fucktard. If not then GTFO and keep your fancy ideas to yourself and barry, eric and janet.WAKE UP AMERICA  You can ask any well respected historian and they will tell you the original documents say A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war and I have seen the original document myself You lying NRA shills |
| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States12/21/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMO It's about time guns need to ban for citizens in order for modern society to advance barbaric weapons such as weapons have no use. Only law enforcement,military and government should have guns to protect us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031 Gun are for barbaric people who can't settle disputes peacefully.If you want true power write a letter ,sign a petition and peacefully demonstrate  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1292637 United States12/21/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Armor was only worn when sword fighting was common. Armor was worthless against the English long bow at close range. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23651941 Kevlar armor The original second amendment is quite clear it is only pro gun propagandist who o originally twisted it. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Kevlar was first invented in 1965 you fucking half-wit, LONG after the text was written. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29643034 United States12/21/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is exactly what the Pennsylvania Constitution states for anyone who can't quite understand what is meant by the U.S. Constitution (which isn't as old as the Pennsylvania Constitution) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041 "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." -- Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1, Section 21 The Constitution of Maine is nearly identical. Look at others in the original 13 colonies and you'll see variations of the same. The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT "grant" us rights, they actually LIMIT the ability of the government to infringe upon INALIENABLE rights. Our rights are bestowed upon us by our Creator. They are inseparable from us... residing in us from birth and until death and BEYOND. WE, the people.  fuck with us Bahamas, our god given freedoms will not be taken |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nice try bahama switching words around. Typical liberal progressive communist activity of someone using propaganda and lies to distort the truth. is that you eric and barry with janet telling you what to type. Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01 What did I switch around the original second amendment is: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war And you can research it yourself and your ad hominem attacks won't work I am convincing people why guns should be banned and I am quite logical in my approach Well, doesn't the NDAA declare America as a 'Battleground'? Yawn ,your grasping at straws |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29643034 United States12/21/2012 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nice try bahama switching words around. Typical liberal progressive communist activity of someone using propaganda and lies to distort the truth. is that you eric and barry with janet telling you what to type. Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01 What did I switch around the original second amendment is: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war And you can research it yourself and your ad hominem attacks won't work I am convincing people why guns should be banned and I am quite logical in my approach Well, doesn't the NDAA declare America as a 'Battleground'? Yawn ,your grasping at straws yawn, still no link to explain your bullshit interpretation of the 2nd amt. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is exactly what the Pennsylvania Constitution states for anyone who can't quite understand what is meant by the U.S. Constitution (which isn't as old as the Pennsylvania Constitution) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041 "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." -- Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1, Section 21 The Constitution of Maine is nearly identical. Look at others in the original 13 colonies and you'll see variations of the same. The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT "grant" us rights, they actually LIMIT the ability of the government to infringe upon INALIENABLE rights. Our rights are bestowed upon us by our Creator. They are inseparable from us... residing in us from birth and until death and BEYOND. WE, the people. fuck with us Bahamas, our god given freedoms will not be taken Having guns was never in the constitution nor is it a freedom or a basic human right A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Just trust your law enforcement and government they will take care of you after all they are your citizens to. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24854023 Ireland12/21/2012 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain12/21/2012 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No they're not, most citizens (except those willing to recluse into the wilderness and form guerrilla armies) will either give their weapons or be murdered by the military police teams. huh? Here let me help you to understand. [link to sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net] Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29643034 United States12/21/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is exactly what the Pennsylvania Constitution states for anyone who can't quite understand what is meant by the U.S. Constitution (which isn't as old as the Pennsylvania Constitution) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041 "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." -- Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1, Section 21 The Constitution of Maine is nearly identical. Look at others in the original 13 colonies and you'll see variations of the same. The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT "grant" us rights, they actually LIMIT the ability of the government to infringe upon INALIENABLE rights. Our rights are bestowed upon us by our Creator. They are inseparable from us... residing in us from birth and until death and BEYOND. WE, the people. fuck with us Bahamas, our god given freedoms will not be taken Having guns was never in the constitution nor is it a freedom or a basic human right A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Just trust your law enforcement and government they will take care of you after all they are your citizens to. Prove that it was never in the Constitution. Prove that it was never in the Constitution. Prove that it was never in the Constitution. |
| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States12/21/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is exactly what the Pennsylvania Constitution states for anyone who can't quite understand what is meant by the U.S. Constitution (which isn't as old as the Pennsylvania Constitution) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041 "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." -- Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1, Section 21 The Constitution of Maine is nearly identical. Look at others in the original 13 colonies and you'll see variations of the same. The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT "grant" us rights, they actually LIMIT the ability of the government to infringe upon INALIENABLE rights. Our rights are bestowed upon us by our Creator. They are inseparable from us... residing in us from birth and until death and BEYOND. WE, the people. fuck with us Bahamas, our god given freedoms will not be taken Having guns was never in the constitution nor is it a freedom or a basic human right A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Just trust your law enforcement and government they will take care of you after all they are your citizens to. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 United States12/21/2012 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been a State Trooper for 11 years and I can tell you right now that not I nor any of my coworkers would attempt to confiscate guns from the people. First of we all believe in the 2nd Ammendment and second, none of us have a death wish. It is that simple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30442354 Thank you sir! Please, if they begin confiscation, lend us citizens a hand? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30562031 Bahamas12/21/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031 What did I switch around the original second amendment is: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war And you can research it yourself and your ad hominem attacks won't work I am convincing people why guns should be banned and I am quite logical in my approach Well, doesn't the NDAA declare America as a 'Battleground'? Yawn ,your grasping at straws yawn, still no link to explain your bullshit interpretation of the 2nd amt. Book:Law and Constitutes of Society Written in 1804 Pages:1459 page 456 Excerpt The second amendment makes well documented material and was determined by contemporary scholars that it has been reconstructed and in fact the original stated with profound documents. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war Ask any historian |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17208041 United States12/21/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031 What did I switch around the original second amendment is: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war And you can research it yourself and your ad hominem attacks won't work I am convincing people why guns should be banned and I am quite logical in my approach Well, doesn't the NDAA declare America as a 'Battleground'? Yawn ,your grasping at straws yawn, still no link to explain your bullshit interpretation of the 2nd amt. Seriously, why should we even care what bullshit interpretation he comes back with? He's an idiot. "The right of the people, to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed". We, the people, formed the militia. We, being fearful of an overly powerful central government, retained the right to keep and bear arms in defense of ourselves and our Liberty. We, the people, find ourselves right back where we began... our Liberty being threatened by despots who do not represent us, only their desire for more power. Some of our own do not understand. Enough of us understand perfectly. Enough of us will fight and what we will fight for they cannot separate from us. Liberty. For ourselves, yes. For our posterity. Absolutely. That may be something people in other countries cannot quite comprehend. |
