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This is a set-up! They know gun confiscation is the ONLY WAY to a guaranteed Civil War

 
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What the second amendment really means and why guns should be banned for citizens because it was never legal.

The second amendment is a misinterpretation


Many people think the second amendment is

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


But all respected historians know that is an error the second amendment actually says.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war


Now using the correct version you can see that the second amendment actually is intended for the people to use offense weapons and protect themselves with body armor.Instead of defensive weapons such as guns.

On that merit alone,guns should be banned because they never were suppose to be legal for citizens anyway.

The second amendment is a misinterpretation
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There is much Fail in this one
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LOL... Man, you aren't kidding. These moronic libtards will do ANYTHING to get you to agree to surrender the remainder of your rights.

They don't mind giving up all of THEIR rights either, just as long as they retain the right to be a pervert, deviant, and dope smoker.
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They would turn all of these expensive toys we've paid for against us, don't think for a moment that they won't.
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So it only stands to reason that people should NEVER make themselves even MORE helpless.

I'm just glad that everybody that I know, says that this issue is their line in the sand.
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Americans will NEVER rise up and fight no matter what..

WHY??..cause MOST of em are so damn fat they could only fit about ten to a street at a time..and the effort of having to maybe RUN??..THATS whats really gonna stop em...just changing mags would get most of em out of breath.

And they would stop the riot every two minutes for a beer and pizza break and to see whos winning dancing with the stars and to check the sports results.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18133274


You need to come hunting with me in West Virginia.
The real estate is mostly vertical.
And damn near everyone has better arms than the US Army,
and arsenals of it.
IF you survive you will have a totally different
stereotype of the American male.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8977874


Sounds like North Idaho.

We built a deer stand last fall. Backstrap in the freezer.
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Re: This is a set-up! They know gun confiscation is the ONLY WAY to a guaranteed Civil War
the question is :

are americans brave enough to fight a civil war ?

dont think so, western society is all about individualism.
 Quoting: Zeff


We've already fought two of them lol.....
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12/22/2012 01:27 AM
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They will confiscate and it will start a civil war. THEY KNOW THIS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29412599


And a great way to initiate Martial Law and fill those FEMA camps; and while they're at it instate Agenda 21.
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“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”

[link to offgridsurvival.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29412599


NO OPTION TIME TO ORGANISE.

IF THEY TAKE YOUR GUNS AWAY, YOU WILL END UP A SLAVE, LIKE THE RUSSIANS.

THEY WILL KILL, YOU, RAPE YOUR FAMILY LIKE THEY THEY DID TO THE RUSSIANS.

REMEMBER OVER 30 MILLION RUSSIANS WERE KILLED BY THE JEWISH COMMUNISTS.

THE HORROR OF NO MEANS TO PROTECT YOUR SELF WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU.

BETTER TO START THE CIVIL WAR NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30582383


Here is one Russian that totally agrees with you:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
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Americans will never fight back?

So all the combat vets won't fight? They'll just line up for re-education camp and the RFID chip? Really?
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Americans will NEVER rise up and fight no matter what..

WHY??..cause MOST of em are so damn fat they could only fit about ten to a street at a time..and the effort of having to maybe RUN??..THATS whats really gonna stop em...just changing mags would get most of em out of breath.

And they would stop the riot every two minutes for a beer and pizza break and to see whos winning dancing with the stars and to check the sports results.
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every time i read trollish dribble i look for location and see AUS; why is that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29019521


Let me splain it to ya...

These Oztards are so full of envy and rage, that they cannot think of anything that they'd like to see MORE than Americans ending up the same way that THEY did. They fucked up, and they know it. So all they can do now, being the hopelessly socially engineered little trolls that they are, is desperately hope that everyone else ends up in the same boat. And even better... in a WORSE situation that they did.

You can just FEEL the jealousy dripping from their posts.

Plenty of these putrid and scrofulous cretins have expressed absolute GLEE at the thought of Americans (who stand up to tyranny) being utterly slaughtered. It goes without saying that these despicable pukes will end up with the same fate as the slaughterers. In the Lake of Fire, after God judges them to be of the exact same cloth of those who do the actual crimes.
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Americans will NEVER rise up and fight no matter what..

WHY??..cause MOST of em are so damn fat they could only fit about ten to a street at a time..and the effort of having to maybe RUN??..THATS whats really gonna stop em...just changing mags would get most of em out of breath.

And they would stop the riot every two minutes for a beer and pizza break and to see whos winning dancing with the stars and to check the sports results.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18133274


You need to come hunting with me in West Virginia.
The real estate is mostly vertical.
And damn near everyone has better arms than the US Army,
and arsenals of it.
IF you survive you will have a totally different
stereotype of the American male.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8977874


Yup, again my WV brethren nailed this one. I kid you not when i state every family I know literally has 20 fire arms to each house hold, from scoped deer rifles, Ars AKs SKSs, to grandpa's ol shotgun. I think thats a bit difficult to completely confiscate, and most of them regard them not for hunting at all. We live in a state that has a history of corporate and government rape that is only a couple generations removed (Mine Wars). In fact we are the only state to be bombed by our own air force during the miner rebellion. That battle was waged with Merc and US military against simple miner families. However most people cant remember past 3 days ago including our noble Aussie cousins.
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Mine wars. That also sounds like North Idaho.

I will likely be going back underground soon. The silver awaits.
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Re: This is a set-up! They know gun confiscation is the ONLY WAY to a guaranteed Civil War
Most Americans are in favor of some sort of gun control. I doubt confiscation will cause a Civil War.
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Bullshit.

You base that erroneous statement on a TOTALLY skewed media, which presents one side of the argument OVERWHELMINGLY.

The polls show that you are wrong. Even DESPITE the INCREDIBLE bias presented by the HIGHLY CONTROLLED globalist owned government/media complex.

So that ought to tell you just how strongly Americans do NOT want their gun rights toyed with any further. Anyone who doesn't yet get the fact that crime goes DOWN where the most guns are found, is living under a rock. A rock with mainstream media on a big screen TV.

Get this through your head...

The television is nothing more than a PROPAGANDA box. And it's WORKING on idiots. It is NOT working on people with triple digit IQ's.
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Voiding of the 2nd amendment?
Then voiding of the "Union" and secession begins.
With armed defense along State borders.
I'll be emigrating to one of these new countries.
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There will NEVER be secession UNLESS *THEY* are ready to split the country up after they are through using it.

NO STATE will secede. They are all on the government teat, collecting MILLIONS in federal funds. No way wil they give those up.

Look around at the "governors." They are ALL PLAYERS (that's why they're governors!).

The 10th Amendment talk is just hot air and a "patriot's" wet dream, just like the "revolution" and "civil war" talk. It's just HOT AIR.
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You conveniently forget that in most states, the citizens pay less than 10% income tax to the state, and around 30% to the federal government (these are the productive, taxpaying citizens).

It a state or region seceded, the 30% paid to the federal government would be absorbed by the state. It might be less since the state also has sales tax, property tax, etc.

The revenue would still be there.
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Most Americans are in favor of some sort of gun control. I doubt confiscation will cause a Civil War.
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By the way, I can see why you picked the username that you did.
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pick ^^^
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Re: This is a set-up! They know gun confiscation is the ONLY WAY to a guaranteed Civil War
The USA is set for destruction in the 4th seal of Revelation. This will happen right after food prices get so high that people are working a day for a loaf of bread (3rd seal is done).

The Obamination is the 44th president of the USA and will be your last. 44 is a Biblical number for judgment and he is your destroyer. His job is to tear the nation apart to prepare it for the 4th seal.

If this gun confiscation starts a civil war then he will be doing his job. Don't sweat it, and don't join the rebels because the rebels will loose.

Things are only going to get worse for our nation, so if you are sitting on the fence then you need to repent and get right with the Lord before the hammer falls.

Preps are not going to save you. The endtimes are the Father's doing, so only Jesus can save you from what His father has prepared for His enemies.
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Most Americans are in favor of some sort of gun control. I doubt confiscation will cause a Civil War.
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Don't know where the hell you're talking about but here in Idaho we don't go along with the "most" crowd, and disarming the mountain states in general would be a nasty task indeed.
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Amen brother. I'm in washington.
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Oregon here...

Everyone I know around these parts, could not agree more.
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The USA is set for destruction in the 4th seal of Revelation. This will happen right after food prices get so high that people are working a day for a loaf of bread (3rd seal is done).

The Obamination is the 44th president of the USA and will be your last. 44 is a Biblical number for judgment and he is your destroyer. His job is to tear the nation apart to prepare it for the 4th seal.

If this gun confiscation starts a civil war then he will be doing his job. Don't sweat it, and don't join the rebels because the rebels will loose.

Things are only going to get worse for our nation, so if you are sitting on the fence then you need to repent and get right with the Lord before the hammer falls.

Preps are not going to save you. The endtimes are the Father's doing, so only Jesus can save you from what His father has prepared for His enemies.
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I think that you truly picked the right username.
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This doing nothing at all, is getting us no where, What would you suggest as a plan for action?

Would you back a peaceful tax protest?
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Just stfu you bunch of morans! iamwith
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Americans will NEVER rise up and fight no matter what..

WHY??..cause MOST of em are so damn fat they could only fit about ten to a street at a time..and the effort of having to maybe RUN??..THATS whats really gonna stop em...just changing mags would get most of em out of breath.

And they would stop the riot every two minutes for a beer and pizza break and to see whos winning dancing with the stars and to check the sports results.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18133274


I know an intuitive fellow, a psychic if you will, he told me there will be a civil war over gun control, as a matter of factly. He has also told me things about me that he would not have known otherwise - than being intuitive (aka psychic).
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the question is :

are americans brave enough to fight a civil war ?

dont think so, western society is all about individualism.
 Quoting: Zeff


Individualism is not without its merits.

It's called FREEDOM, friend.

It's not a selfish idealism. Rather a collective call to live and let live.

Alas...it does take a certain sense of MORALITY to actually work.

You notice...I hope...it's only since liberalism (the embracing of non-traditional morality) that the whole "PC" mentality has taken hold. These people are no different in their policy than Hitler. Agree with us or die.
Conservatism (NOT the Neo-con Bush era Conservatism) in this country has had a much more "live and let live" idealism than the extreme left ever did.

Look at Ayers and his band of hoodlums calling for the deaths of 25 MILLION Americans to bring about their "Liberal" utopia.

When did conservatives EVER dream of such a thing?

Liberalism in America is very simply put...allow us all to be complete social deviants or DIE.
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OK Aussie. What happens to the world if the US goes into civil war, OR loses all weapons and becomes a totalitarian police state, huh? You think it won't affect you?
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Nobody seems to understand that if the US goes down the whole world goes down with it !

Wake up people, stop wishing America's demise ! If you don't care about the American people at least do it for your own selfish reasons cos make no mistake about it, IF the US falls your life will be turned upside down no matter where you live on the planet !
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I do not know who is stupider, you or your little compadre who you are agreeing with. Let's just settle on big idiots and be done with that.

The fact that you think a second amendment 1) actually stops the government from invading your life 2) is the reason that America is not a totalitarian police state or 3) changes the way the USA interacts with the world at large makes you a goddamn idiot.

America is a totalitarian state with a very strong police presence. It is not the government making it totalitarian though. The people are willingly passing laws that allow the government to control them. Legal marijuana anyone? Free consumption of things that are bad for you? We are a totalitarian state. Just a free choice totalitarian state.

Moreover, you are not protected from the government coming in and just taking away your stuff or bending the constitution to their will. This is what happens. This is what has been happening for years. You are foolish to actually believe that a gun will stop the government from doing this in the past or in the future.

Finally, you are incredibly stupid to think that the USA will change the way it interacts with the world because there is a change in power. If there is a change at the top, there is still a giant military infrastructure that does not reflect that change. Since our military infrastructure and aid infrastructure is how the USA interacts with the rest of the world, our military is actually the thing keeping the world in order.

Let me repeat that one more time for you so you get it. There already is a totalitarian regime in place for the way the USA interacts with the world. It is called the military. They control everything that happens within a military setting. Therefore, the military is the dictator of our foreign policy.

You may say that the President controls the military, but that is not the case. The military advises the president. If he tries to do anything too crazy, the media attacks him.

Why don't you just get off your ass, stop complaining about how the USA government is trying to ruin your life, and realize this is the only order in a world of fucking Chaos? The USA is the ONLY goddamn country in the world that is not having riots right now.

Argentina? Riots.

Europe? Riots.

China? Riots.

USA? NO FUCKING RIOTS. IT IS ONLY BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT IS ORGANIZED AND NOT INFLUENCED BY SOME PRESIDENT THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING THAT WE ARE ALWAYS IN A BETTER POSITION.


I don't want to have riots like all these other countries. So I am glad you fools aren't in control of our foreign policy and people that have been doing this a while are.
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You do a nice job of acting intelligent in order to show your stupidity.

Fuck you.
Our military is the "dictator" of every 3rd world country that can not defend its self and has a valuable asset our dictator big bank mafia leaders decide they need to control.
Are you so blind you cant see our "military and government" are nothing more then the BITCHES of Israel?
You have the nerve to brag because you see these other countries rioting against their dictators, while we sit here with our thumb up our asses?
China, Europe, Argentina have citizens who are not dumbed down to the point of caring more about Honey Boo Boo then the rights the are fighting for!
Just wait.... oh.. just wait until the time comes when Americans are considered criminals for possessing their only protection against the criminals that will take advantage of an unarmed public. We will not stand and riot... we will stand and fight.
I will die with my gun in my hand before i will die in a FEMA camp.
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You are too funny. I love how people can be so hateful on the internet. You feel anonymity gives you this shield to really just have a terrible attitude. I think it is this attitude specifically that makes you such a crappy person in general.

I don't really know how to relate to people that really believe a nation of a people control the world. There may be a certain "group" of people that run the world. They are called smart people. There are more likely more Jewish smart people because various European and Middle Eastern nations have periodically culled various religious groups, always being sure to kill the Jews.

It is not a nation of people controlling the world. Israel is a nation in the Middle East that the West trades intellectual, military, and strategic capital with frequently. Because they are now so important strategically, the West defends them. Out of ALL the goddamn countries in the Middle East, Israel is the only one that isn't ruled by some dictator or madman. Just because of that I side with it. Screw Syria and Iran and any country that isn't open and relatively free over there. They can and need to do better for their people.

Israel has open trade and open ideas. All of you people defend countries like Iran and their "sovereignty". WHAT SOVEREIGNTY? SOVEREIGNTY COMES FROM THE PEOPLE. Iran gives nothing to the people. Iran takes from the people. And because Iran takes, its people do not give back nearly as much.

Iran gives nothing to its people, while extracting money from government positions. Israel fosters an environment of open idea exchange. You make these assertions that all the powerful are Jewish. This isn't true. You're just picking on Jewish people, you racist motherfucker.
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Divide et impera.

Divide and conquer.

China waits for the civil war before launching their invasion. Obama knows this, and that's why he's trying to start it. China can kill millions with nuclear and biological weapons, and can follow gun confiscation orders that the U.S. military would not.
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Russia is waiting for the civil war to start too. Why do you think Russia Today media was established? It's the ONLY libertarian/conservative news media in the U.S.

RT is designed to cultivate conservative opposition and sectional conflict. Russia and China need the civil war before they can move.
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civil war.

jerkit
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Well...

You didn't fight back when they blew up the OKC building and blamed militias...

You didn't fight back when you saw 911 was an inside job...

You wouldn't fight back when you knew the BC was a fake...

You wouldn't fight back when you saw the elections were rigged...

What DOES it take?1dunno1
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It's all a setup. They've planned it all out......
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Well...

You didn't fight back when they blew up the OKC building and blamed militias...

You didn't fight back when you saw 911 was an inside job...

You wouldn't fight back when you knew the BC was a fake...

You wouldn't fight back when you saw the elections were rigged...

What DOES it take?1dunno1
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gun confiscation.....
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Well...

You didn't fight back when they blew up the OKC building and blamed militias...

You didn't fight back when you saw 911 was an inside job...

You wouldn't fight back when you knew the BC was a fake...

You wouldn't fight back when you saw the elections were rigged...

What DOES it take?1dunno1
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gun confiscation.....
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I doubt it...
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Thread: Hold on to your pistols fellers
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What the second amendment really means and why guns should be banned for citizens because it was never legal.

The second amendment is a misinterpretation


Many people think the second amendment is

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


But all respected historians know that is an error the second amendment actually says.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war


Now using the correct version you can see that the second amendment actually is intended for the people to use offense weapons and protect themselves with body armor.Instead of defensive weapons such as guns.

On that merit alone,guns should be banned because they never were suppose to be legal for citizens anyway.

The second amendment is a misinterpretation
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: ConTroll


Only in times of war should a citizen have armor.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear armor shall not be infringed:in times of war

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30562031


We have been in a state of war for decades.

War on Drugs

War on Terror


News