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what happeed to the men of the younger generation in the USA?

 
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I am a 32 yr old female. I have been working since I was 18. I had a home built at 19. I was raised primarily by my mother who was single off and on. While my step father from 14 on taught me some thing I still agree that there is something wrong with today's "men." I am single because I cannot seem to find a worthy male. Most have no goals regardless of their upbringing. Family means nothing. I ended up choosing to be a single mother with the use of a donor because of the problems with all the men I encountered. I live in a suburb of Indianapolis so there should be plenty of men to choose from. I feel like every guy I have dated regardless of age has sever issues. I can do tile, trim, paint, drywall, and some plumbing. I wasnt taught. I learned! I wanted something done I learned from trial and error. Every guy has an excuse why something cant be done instead of trying. I feel guys have no ambition. They would rather sit on the couch or at the computer(looking for their next victim to leech off) instead of doing their own laundry, taking out the trash or even having a hobby! I have dated senior networking analysts to tattoo artists. If I need something done I have to rely on myself, family or paying someone. I have also noticed that most have "failure to launch" issues. And that could contribute to why they have no idea how to manage money, pay a bill, shovel the driveway, use a dishwasher, what a trash can is, that food costs money, use a hammer...not even going to push the power tools..., change a light bulb, change their own oil, mow a lawn, change a tire, call places to get something taken care of, file their own taxes, pick up dog poop after it craps in the yard, sweep a floor...shall i go on? There seems to be very few decent "men" out there... Let's not even touch the fact that they tend to be only looking for one thing or the next best thing...cheat, lie, and steal. What happened to gentlemen? Or men making us feel like they can take care of us instead of the other way around?
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I think, the men of this generation are too afraid to do some things. Women everywhere hate the average man of the USA. Since they were young they saw, that love was hard. Life was tough, women don't want the nice, smart guys. Plus many of them just grow up in poverty. They get beat up and belittled by women and their "superior alpha males".

But you know what too? It's not like men can get a degree anymore and expect to get somewhere with it. No..

Now you have masses of men who are basically "useless", and women don't care to support them through the THICK AND THIN. So the natural reaction is to just destroy themselves. And that's what's happening now.
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That, or they become what is called herbivore men, and they give up on women completely because they are convinced that the pursuit is pointless.
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I'm not much older than the young generation. I'm 35. I see a bunch of kids who are remarkably different than we were at their age, at least in certain ways.

Even by 23 or 24 years old they have no skills.The young men are pathetically incompetent with tools. Until recently I owned a small construction business and I'd hire these kids. Almost none of them could read a tape measure. If their truck had a water pump go out or something I'd have to pick them up for weeks until they could have it fixed. They were clueless about how to take care of such little things themselves.

I'd catch them playing on their phones when there was work to be done. They walked around on my job site like they didn't have shit to do, sticking their fingers in their ears and up their noses.

I finally quite hiring anybody under 30 years old. A broken down elderly man was more useful than these strong young man. At least they had enough sense to not step on a nail (and bend nails over in scrap lumber so they wouldn't step on them later).

The kids today are different. When I turned 16 I was given a $500 1981 camaro and a very nice and large tool set (my father was a proud tradesman and put a lot of stock in being able to work on things). By the time I was 20 I was assembling $5,000 high performance engines, stripping heads, working on trannies, etc. By 25 I had my own construction business (tiny little business).

If you can't read a tape measure or change a water pump on a chevy you are not a man as far as I'm concerned (whether you choose to change a pump is a little different). Go buy some panties and tampons and watch some Dr. Phil.
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Hey, I agreed with you until I read the insult to women at the bottom. :( My mom taught me all about house work, cooking, gardening, sewing, etc. My dad taught me how to care for the farm animals, but he didn't want his girls around the machinery. I had to teach myself about engines and power tools once I got married and lived in the country with a husband who traveled most of the time. Somebody had to fix stuff and I wasn't about to spend big bucks on some plumber with an 85 IQ. Everyone needs to be able to take care of themselves and their own property - not just the men.
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Shut up.
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I grew up without a dad and I didn't end up that way. I am in my 40's and can outrun any 20-something mechanic they bring into the shop. While you might be able to teach them something, there are very few that have the desire.
The generation behind us has no work ethic at all. You can't teach that, and with no desire to learn, there is little hope.
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That's so true.

But do they have a right to be hopeful?

We have sold their futures so that our way of life can continue unabated.
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My take on this whole thing also has a lot to do with the old "everyone gets a trophy for participating" BS that started here in the past 2 decades. There is no competition bred into people because everyone is a winner if they just "show up". That, and little Johnny having to wear a helmet and knee pads cause riding a bike is just so darn dangerous...he might hurt his wittle knees.


Kids are put in a bubble and taught that it's a dangerous world that shouldn't be explored, mommy cleans their rooms/laundry/meals until they are in their 20s and we wonder wth is going on
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I'd guess this has a lot to do with the attitudes. Overprotectiveness has its price. Life used to be more of an adventure when I was young, so raising my boys (four of them - ages 18, 17, 16, 15) I tried to teach them how to work and the need to know how to work. They have each learned differently. We (my wife and I) homeschooled them for four years so that when we put them in school they were all supposed to be put up a grade, but it didn't work out that way. The 18 year old was valendictorian of his graduating class (and yeah, I'm proud) and was taking college courses when he was 16. The 17 year old was getting straight F grades so we pulled him out of school and put him back in home school. The first thing he did was build an electric guitar. Carved the wood, wound the pickups, cut the frets out of a coat hanger, and used various electronic parts he'd collected for the rest. He's also the go-to guy when anything needs fixing on the cars or computers. The 16 year old had a heart operation when he was 5 days old (transposition of the great arteries) and suffered from the anesthetic, which derailed his brain synopsis in some way. By second grade in school he didn't even know his alphabet, which is why we started home school to begin with. In four years at home he went from being 2 grades behind to a grade ahead and is one of the top in his class. The 15 year old is a phenomenal reader. He read The DaVinci Code in fourth grade in three nights. He is in the same grade with the 16 year old because they are best friends and always competing. He is the top of his class.

All of these boys helped build the chicken coop, chop firewood, and help with every other job I give them without much whimpering (except cleaning their rooms). Every one has at least the rudimentaries of mechanics. They have all worked on a local horse farm (along with their sister of 14 years) and are sought after by the lady that runs the place because they know how to work where most of the kids she hires come in not knowing which end of the shovel to use. This is not their fault, but it is a fact, and most of these are girls.

We had a hard time with the school system about the way in which they turned our kids away from the values we tried to instill in them. It seemed, much of the time, that they wanted to break our family up. Upon looking at society as a whole I'd say the entire thing is set up to break up families. Dishonesty is rewarded. Recreation is an entitlement. Technology is the answer. Money is the Way to achieve anything. And, responsibility is a disease that only affects the low lifes. These are the values I have seen undermining the system where mores, ethics, and good judgement are in short supply. Oh, and the happy two parent family is not so common anymore, either.

Several years ago I read a book that pointed out that throughout history every society had ceremonies to acknowledge the coming of age in children. Most don't now, and the children suffer from this. They lack identity within a societal structure and are left to drift along learning who they are by what they have. They are bereft of the feeling that they have a reason to be responsible since they don't believe anyone gives a damn about them. And here we sit, judging them, when we are the ones who should shoulder the responsibility of bringing them home. The adventures we had are lost on them because they don't feel the same way. How could they? The knee pads and helmet prevent this from happening, and how else can they achieve anything worth recognizing as noteworthy?
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You're right.. Two teenagers myself and I'm 34. They WILL know what work is, how to manage a firearm, how to do shit (like undo a few bolts on a car) and what it means to take care of a family/wife with RESPECT. Whether they choose to follow thru with it is not within my control, but they will Learn it. I am in the in between generation of those that are "soft' and those that are "men" of old school proportions, but my only teacher was hard knocks (without mommy kissin' my boo boos). Don't know how to remedy this situation. Only feel sorry for the females who's only "macho, manly" options are those that do "gangster" things as opposed to those that actually can be the man in a situation and handle business as they aught to
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Re: what happeed to the men of the younger generation in the USA?
Pathetic.

There are plenty of young, middle aged, and older men that have learned the true secrets.

If you desire wealth, you must not only work for it, you must take it. No one will give it to you.

If you desire power, take it. No one will give it to you.

If you desire a family, you must not only work for it, you must make one. It will not be given to you.

If you wish authority, you must take it.

All of these can be had, and are being had, by plenty of American males. What I am reading disgusts me. Those that blame class warfare (if you don't have it, take it, or take it from someone else). Those that blame their upbringing (you obviously have the internet and knowledge of the outside world). Those that blame women in regards to their own shortcomings.

If you want a good woman, you must work to find a good woman, then you must work to make her your woman. If it is too much for you, then either she is not a good woman or you have fallen short. Move on.

Fortunately, none of this will be an issue for anyone for very much longer... it will be taken from you.
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It's difficult to pinpoint. I grew up in Alaska (female) where the men were hyper alpha males, disrespected and abused women, and yet were hard workers and businessmen. I learned to take care of myself because there were no men around to care for me nor teach me anything. So, while it was difficult, I learned a lot in personal survival, especially in extreme weather and hostile people - in other words to take care of myself. There was value in that, but it would have been comforting to have a male figure who was concerned about my welfare.

Fast forward, have a 34-year old son who had one grandfather that taught him everything from changing an engine in a truck to shooting rifles, etc. In Iraq, as a tank commander in the middle of nowhere, the track came off his tank and he managed to fix the damn thing in 12 hours. And so on. But he is not married and probably will never be. The divorce was hard on him, he watched mom struggle (we lived in cars off and on), but now is financially stable and happy - he doesn't understand the games women play and doesn't want the responsibility of either supporting a wife or kids.

Other two sons are excellent students but are not into machines of any sort though my hubby offers to teach them at every opportunity. What a difference video games as done to these younger men. They don't even want cars as they don't want the payments, insurance, etc. They have girlfriends but are not interested in marriage yet. Education and jobs come first - along with the gaming and computers. A different generation.

I've lived long enough to see several generations of men grow up. You really are the product of your environment, which includes family, education, societal changes (culture creation) etc. so I suggest to reserve judgement on anyone unless you know their background and upbringing. But I will say that it is critical that young men have some sort of a father figure in their lives. Being fatherless is, IMO, THE biggest problem in America for young males for they are indeed the Lost Generation because of it.
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We are about to fix this mess for good, please don't feel "holier than thou", I an my peers will surprise you with what we have created

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