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DECEMBER 21 2012 - THE TORTUGUERO PROPHECY

 
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DECEMBER 21 2012 - THE TORTUGUERO PROPHECY
(a)ays 7 Uinals 0 Tuns and 8 Katuns, previously it happened. On 8 Chuen 9 Mak, it was completed for re-birthing*, the pibnaah of Ahkal K'uk. It was 2 days, 9 Uinals, 3 Tuns, 8 Katuns and 3 Baktuns before the 13th Baktun is completed on 4 Ahau 3 Kankin.

(b)n it will happen - darkness, and Bolon-Yokte will descend to the (???)

That's perhaps the most accurate translation through the years since the discovery of the Tortuguero site back in 1915.

(a) first part refers to the date in question.
December 21, 2012.

(b) second part talks about an event in the future at that particular time.

Then it will happen
What exactly will happen?
After this "happening" darkness - missing part


Bolon Yokte will descend to the?? - missing part

As we can see.
There is no reference to the end of the world.

Although, there is talk of the end of the 4th sun on the Aztec calendar and the Dresden Codex. Nothing about the end of the world on the Tortuguero monument.

Now, if we try match the Mayan calendar with our Gregorian calendar. I think, this doesn't work. As we are off by 6 days, not sure.

We'll see...


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Re: DECEMBER 21 2012 - THE TORTUGUERO PROPHECY
the return of the Mayan Messenger Bolon Yokte...Maybe during the Sol Invictus on the 25th...?
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the return of the Mayan Messenger Bolon Yokte...Maybe during the Sol Invictus on the 25th...?
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I was literally just thinking about this, wondering what the exact transliteration from the Mayan prophecy(or whatever you want to call it) said, and then I came across this thread. Awesome - thanks for posting.

As for what it means... I really don't have anything to add that hasn't already been speculated on or talked about already, but I think it is possible that they are saying that something tangible will happen, and that it will happen after the date in question.

I'll admit that it may partly be my holding on to hope that it wasn't a fail (the world desperately needs major change...), but the original post definitely reads that way. As OP points out, "then it happens." AFTER the date mentioned at the beginning of the translation, "it" happens. Whatever it is.
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I was literally just thinking about this, wondering what the exact transliteration from the Mayan prophecy(or whatever you want to call it) said, and then I came across this thread. Awesome - thanks for posting.

As for what it means... I really don't have anything to add that hasn't already been speculated on or talked about already, but I think it is possible that they are saying that something tangible will happen, and that it will happen after the date in question.

I'll admit that it may partly be my holding on to hope that it wasn't a fail (the world desperately needs major change...), but the original post definitely reads that way. As OP points out, "then it happens." AFTER the date mentioned at the beginning of the translation, "it" happens. Whatever it is.
 Quoting: Ms.Magoo


There are several ancient texts that mention a 'SIGHTING' and dates around the same time frame...A sighting in the sky shall happen...
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Then it will happen
What exactly will happen?
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She mentioned, at the very end, "It will be completed, the 13th Peak. This display of Bolon-Yokte; in the Great Investiture".

Sounds Ok to me :-)


Now, if we try match the Mayan calendar with our Gregorian calendar. I think, this doesn't work. As we are off by 6 days, not sure.
 Quoting: Thomas Dolby


Arg, man, anyone have a ready link to the discrepancies of Maya and Gregorian calendars handy? 6 days.. which way? arrrrgh! I'm not a big fan of realizing I hadn't checked out these two timelines more closely in our current situation. /facepalm
Although, in some ways it only matters now if it's 6 days forward at this point.

I'll poke around in a bit and look, but I have a feeling it will be like wading in a sea of confusion... lol; thus why I ask if anyone has this handy.


Nothing about the end of the world on the Tortuguero monument.
 Quoting: Thomas Dolby


Agreed.
A good many of us know this deal was going to be subtle and take a while for all this to play out anyway.


Here is some info on the Bolon-Yokte:
[link to www.kuxan-suum.org]
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I was literally just thinking about this, wondering what the exact transliteration from the Mayan prophecy(or whatever you want to call it) said, and then I came across this thread. Awesome - thanks for posting.

As for what it means... I really don't have anything to add that hasn't already been speculated on or talked about already, but I think it is possible that they are saying that something tangible will happen, and that it will happen after the date in question.

I'll admit that it may partly be my holding on to hope that it wasn't a fail (the world desperately needs major change...), but the original post definitely reads that way. As OP points out, "then it happens." AFTER the date mentioned at the beginning of the translation, "it" happens. Whatever it is.
 Quoting: Ms.Magoo


I've been to the ruins of Tulum few times.
There is a depiction of a god coming back to earth head first.
I was told that's Kukulkan (Bolon Yokte?)

See it here:



[link to images.travbuddy.com]

[link to www.flickr.com]
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Re: DECEMBER 21 2012 - THE TORTUGUERO PROPHECY
A claim of a "sighting" and "arrival of a cosmic messenger" from the Tree of Life in late December 2012 is a claim apparently made by the ancient Maya and it matches another prophecy time count from the Zohar. The UFO detail is shown by Nostradamus and that which makes a cloud by St John of the book of Revelation. The identity of the messenger also from three prophecies showing the cosmic address of the messenger...Orion shows the way...

BOLON YOKTE THE 'TITLE' OF THE ENTITY

The return of one empowered on this Earth by those who come from above with the title of 'Christos' of the Orion cross secret of the sky... (ref) ... the title of one who will uplift humanity with the call for a stand to remove the evil of the earth manipulating society. The Maya title for the deity who arrives from the sky is B'olon-Yokte'...

Scholars say the Maya believed he is an authoritative leader of power who arrives as a messenger but what was missed here was that he is representing the sacred tree... Creation... The Tree of Life ...

BOLON YOKTE MAYA PLEIADES INCA CONNECTION

An ancient vase artifact is titled 'The vase of the Seven 'gods' Pleiades...This also matches a Nostradamus sketch in his 'Lost Book'...

Bolon is his title name "of the 9" it seems fitting...He is the god over two solar systems are included that he reigns over as a watcher...

There is another interpretation of two solar systems
presented on each side of the sacred cross of Orion which is the cosmic sign post used to locate the special star near the Pleiades. It could be the connection between the primary 'god' star system and our solar system...

Just a thought especially in context with an arrival event mentioned here...
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Then it will happen
What exactly will happen?
 Quoting: Thomas Dolby


She mentioned, at the very end, "It will be completed, the 13th Peak. This display of Bolon-Yokte; in the Great Investiture".

Sounds Ok to me :-)


Now, if we try match the Mayan calendar with our Gregorian calendar. I think, this doesn't work. As we are off by 6 days, not sure.
 Quoting: Thomas Dolby


Arg, man, anyone have a ready link to the discrepancies of Maya and Gregorian calendars handy? 6 days.. which way? arrrrgh! I'm not a big fan of realizing I hadn't checked out these two timelines more closely in our current situation. /facepalm
Although, in some ways it only matters now if it's 6 days forward at this point.

I'll poke around in a bit and look, but I have a feeling it will be like wading in a sea of confusion... lol; thus why I ask if anyone has this handy.

Once I read about the discrepancy about the Gregorian calendar. Actually, as I remember the difference was between the Julian and Gregorian calendar. But, at the end there will be a discrepancy with the Mayan calendar as well.

"The difference is about 8 days and the new calandar came into force around 1582"
Found here:
[link to uk.answers.yahoo.com]

Nothing about the end of the world on the Tortuguero monument.
 Quoting: Thomas Dolby


Agreed.
A good many of us know this deal was going to be subtle and take a while for all this to play out anyway.


Here is some info on the Bolon-Yokte:
[link to www.kuxan-suum.org]
 Quoting: Kii of Earth

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Re: DECEMBER 21 2012 - THE TORTUGUERO PROPHECY
David Stuart’s translation of the Mayan Tortuguero Monument 6...recording the 2012 Bak’tun ending...

“The Thirteenth ‘Bak’tun” will be finished… (It will be) the descent(??) of the Nine Support? God(s) (Bolon Yokte) to the ?...

Something to think about...

Both Jesus and Bolon Yokte were gods around at the time of creation, in John 8:58 Jesus said, ‘before Abraham ever Was “I am”‘...

Again Bolon Yokte appeared on the vase of the seven gods, one of the gods present during creation of the present world...

Jesus is also often referred to as a Judge and the commander of the army of angels and it is of course the main motive for coming back...Also Bolon Yokte symbolises war...this is another similarity...

Bolon Yokte is usually deciphered to mean Bolon (nine) y- (plural) ok (foot) -te (tree) or Nine Footed God or God of Nine Steps...

The fact that Bolon means nine is very interesting as according to the Biblical meaning of numbers nine is the number of Judgement...

Bolon Yokte is shown descending from the heavens just like Jesus who will come to judge man...

Also the reference to tree is also interesting as Jesus is also referred to as the branch...

It is also interesting that Bolon Yokte is often linked with the Aztec god Quetzal Coatl the feathered serpent known as Kukulcan to the Mayans...

Quetzal Coatl was a bearded man...Jesus is depicted as a bearded man unlike the Arab people he was born into...Also some Morman scholars believe that Jesus was Kukulkan...

Bolon Yokte and Jesus Christ could be one and the same based on the following...

-They are both going to descend from the clouds to usher in a new era of peace...

-They are both judgement gods...symbolised by the number 9...Again 9 in hebrew represent judgement and bolon means nine...

-They are both referred to as the tree/branch

-They were both around during the creation of this world...

-Both were unusually bearded which made them stand out from the crowd...
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Re: DECEMBER 21 2012 - THE TORTUGUERO PROPHECY
David Stuart’s translation of the Mayan Tortuguero Monument 6...recording the 2012 Bak’tun ending...

“The Thirteenth ‘Bak’tun” will be finished… (It will be) the descent(??) of the Nine Support? God(s) (Bolon Yokte) to the ?...

Something to think about...

Both Jesus and Bolon Yokte were gods around at the time of creation, in John 8:58 Jesus said, ‘before Abraham ever Was “I am”‘...

Again Bolon Yokte appeared on the vase of the seven gods, one of the gods present during creation of the present world...

Jesus is also often referred to as a Judge and the commander of the army of angels and it is of course the main motive for coming back...Also Bolon Yokte symbolises war...this is another similarity...

Bolon Yokte is usually deciphered to mean Bolon (nine) y- (plural) ok (foot) -te (tree) or Nine Footed God or God of Nine Steps...

The fact that Bolon means nine is very interesting as according to the Biblical meaning of numbers nine is the number of Judgement...

Bolon Yokte is shown descending from the heavens just like Jesus who will come to judge man...

Also the reference to tree is also interesting as Jesus is also referred to as the branch...

It is also interesting that Bolon Yokte is often linked with the Aztec god Quetzal Coatl the feathered serpent known as Kukulcan to the Mayans...

Quetzal Coatl was a bearded man...Jesus is depicted as a bearded man unlike the Arab people he was born into...Also some Morman scholars believe that Jesus was Kukulkan...

Bolon Yokte and Jesus Christ could be one and the same based on the following...

-They are both going to descend from the clouds to usher in a new era of peace...

-They are both judgement gods...symbolised by the number 9...Again 9 in hebrew represent judgement and bolon means nine...

-They are both referred to as the tree/branch

-They were both around during the creation of this world...

-Both were unusually bearded which made them stand out from the crowd...
 Quoting: Settle4It


And both usher in IMPENDING DOOM!
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Re: DECEMBER 21 2012 - THE TORTUGUERO PROPHECY
David Stuart’s translation of the Mayan Tortuguero Monument 6...recording the 2012 Bak’tun ending...

“The Thirteenth ‘Bak’tun” will be finished… (It will be) the descent(??) of the Nine Support? God(s) (Bolon Yokte) to the ?...

Something to think about...

Both Jesus and Bolon Yokte were gods around at the time of creation, in John 8:58 Jesus said, ‘before Abraham ever Was “I am”‘...

Again Bolon Yokte appeared on the vase of the seven gods, one of the gods present during creation of the present world...

Jesus is also often referred to as a Judge and the commander of the army of angels and it is of course the main motive for coming back...Also Bolon Yokte symbolises war...this is another similarity...

Bolon Yokte is usually deciphered to mean Bolon (nine) y- (plural) ok (foot) -te (tree) or Nine Footed God or God of Nine Steps...

The fact that Bolon means nine is very interesting as according to the Biblical meaning of numbers nine is the number of Judgement...

Bolon Yokte is shown descending from the heavens just like Jesus who will come to judge man...

Also the reference to tree is also interesting as Jesus is also referred to as the branch...

It is also interesting that Bolon Yokte is often linked with the Aztec god Quetzal Coatl the feathered serpent known as Kukulcan to the Mayans...

Quetzal Coatl was a bearded man...Jesus is depicted as a bearded man unlike the Arab people he was born into...Also some Morman scholars believe that Jesus was Kukulkan...

Bolon Yokte and Jesus Christ could be one and the same based on the following...

-They are both going to descend from the clouds to usher in a new era of peace...

-They are both judgement gods...symbolised by the number 9...Again 9 in hebrew represent judgement and bolon means nine...

-They are both referred to as the tree/branch

-They were both around during the creation of this world...

-Both were unusually bearded which made them stand out from the crowd...
 Quoting: Settle4It


Bolon Yokte is not nor ever was Jesus, nor is he Kulkukan or Queztlecoatl. Jesus was not Kulkukan, nor was he Queztlecoatl.

The 9 means of the coucil of nine, which is a real coucil of 9.

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