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USMC initiates no alcohol Islamic policy

 
Nyarlathotep

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While I don't believe in religious indoctrination into our military, I do believe that if we are to act in the defense of a country or the protection of another that we need to be level headed about it. Alcohol, Marijuana, LSD, etc are recreational drugs that are meant outside the scope of active responsibility. The moment you try to tie someones life to that of a person under the influence that is tasked to protect another is when things get hairy.

Now some of you will scream "What about those blokes who drink and own a gun?". First... the military usually have a weapon on hand while the standard civilian has it put up in a safe environment (at least the responsible individual does).

The middle ground? How about a commanding officer watching over the group. Take their weapons and store them in a safe place they were trained to retrieve their weapons from. If they get close, put them in check.

There needs to be give and take here.

I will probably get negative karma for this opinion but ... meh. There is no black and white... only gray. Gotta find that gray area that floats with the least resistance.

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Re: USMC initiates no alcohol Islamic policy
ok what does this have to do with islam? they dont want
people operating big fire arms in a combat zone while their
drunk Because innocent people can die. Just like you cant
drive while your drunk. What makes you think its smart to
be drunk while on duty? You well get yourself killed and or
other. War is not a game, and drinking on duty, is the stupidest thing. Drink while off duty thats fine, but i think
they want you to maintain a clean and healthy lifestyle. But i failed to see how this is an Islamic policy? I must say tho, cause you deserved it. You pretty stupid, im amazed.
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ok what does this have to do with islam? they dont want
people operating big fire arms in a combat zone while their
drunk Because innocent people can die. Just like you cant
drive while your drunk. What makes you think its smart to
be drunk while on duty? You well get yourself killed and or
other. War is not a game, and drinking on duty, is the stupidest thing. Drink while off duty thats fine, but i think
they want you to maintain a clean and healthy lifestyle. But i failed to see how this is an Islamic policy? I must say tho, cause you deserved it. You pretty stupid, im amazed.
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According to the article, the blood alcohol content limit has been set so low that a Marine drinking off-duty could still be over the limit the following morning.

They've set it so low that a man who drinks half a beer or a woman who drinks one third of a beer would be over the limit.

According to the doctor interviewed, even a Marine who gargled with mouthwash within the last 20 minutes would register above the new limit.
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Re: USMC initiates no alcohol Islamic policy
ok what does this have to do with islam? they dont want
people operating big fire arms in a combat zone while their
drunk Because innocent people can die. Just like you cant
drive while your drunk. What makes you think its smart to
be drunk while on duty? You well get yourself killed and or
other. War is not a game, and drinking on duty, is the stupidest thing. Drink while off duty thats fine, but i think
they want you to maintain a clean and healthy lifestyle. But i failed to see how this is an Islamic policy? I must say tho, cause you deserved it. You pretty stupid, im amazed.
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According to the article, the blood alcohol content limit has been set so low that a Marine drinking off-duty could still be over the limit the following morning.

They've set it so low that a man who drinks half a beer or a woman who drinks one third of a beer would be over the limit.

According to the doctor interviewed, even a Marine who gargled with mouthwash within the last 20 minutes would register above the new limit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27834680


Humans will never get it right. No matter the policy, law, or ethic involved :) It's all relative eh?
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12/22/2012 02:42 AM
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Alcohol is evil, they should be allowed to smoke bud
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12/22/2012 02:51 AM
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I guess you guys don't care that our Marines can't have a fucking beer.

Al Queda doesn't let their guys have beer either.

It makes me sick. The lack of support for our Marines makes me sick.

THEY CAN'T EVEN FART IN AFGHANISTAN!!! THEY NEED BEER!

YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!
 Quoting: Joe Six Pack 20420224


Soldiers need beer!

clappa
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Alcohol is evil, they should be allowed to smoke bud
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Haji don't smoke!
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12/22/2012 02:56 AM
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It's not like they get much out there now! When they are overseas they pretty much work or need to be ready to work 24/7, so it makes sense.
Plus if you guys knew how much sexual assault plays a roll in combat... Well, alcohol just isn't a good mix in such a senario maybe?
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12/22/2012 03:00 AM
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People want to drink. People like to drink. If you take away their freedom to do so then you increase the crime rate by proxy, you decrease the freedom to be stupid, you increase intelligence among smuggler marines.

This has stupid written all over it.
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I guess you guys don't care that our Marines can't have a fucking beer.

Al Queda doesn't let their guys have beer either.

It makes me sick. The lack of support for our Marines makes me sick.

THEY CAN'T EVEN FART IN AFGHANISTAN!!! THEY NEED BEER!

YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!
 Quoting: Joe Six Pack 20420224


Soldiers need beer!

clappa
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Very soon our Jarheads will be bowing toward Mecca five times a day.
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when do they start the NO BACON project?
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12/22/2012 03:33 AM
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Maybe it's time for a good ol'fashioned blanket party

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I guess you guys don't care that our Marines can't have a fucking beer.

Al Queda doesn't let their guys have beer either.

It makes me sick. The lack of support for our Marines makes me sick.

THEY CAN'T EVEN FART IN AFGHANISTAN!!! THEY NEED BEER!

YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!
 Quoting: Joe Six Pack 20420224


Soldiers need beer!

clappa
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


trigger happy marines and booze should never meet.

period

should have been a rule all along.

and no, Im not a muzzie nor do i support their lunatic religion.

I also do not support the lunatic christian religion either.
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[link to www.washingtontimes.com]

Very soon our Jarheads will be bowing toward Mecca five times a day.
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the word Islam or Muslim isnt even once in the article you stupid moran.

get lost idiot.

feedtroll 1 star + unpin for shitty trolling/bashing.

your fukin jarheads/faggotsheads are faggots for most of them "dont ask dont tell" policy, moran; go support their opened soap asses.

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ok what does this have to do with islam? they dont want
people operating big fire arms in a combat zone while their
drunk Because innocent people can die. Just like you cant
drive while your drunk. What makes you think its smart to
be drunk while on duty? You well get yourself killed and or
other. War is not a game, and drinking on duty, is the stupidest thing. Drink while off duty thats fine, but i think
they want you to maintain a clean and healthy lifestyle. But i failed to see how this is an Islamic policy? I must say tho, cause you deserved it. You pretty stupid, im amazed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28885747


According to the article, the blood alcohol content limit has been set so low that a Marine drinking off-duty could still be over the limit the following morning.

They've set it so low that a man who drinks half a beer or a woman who drinks one third of a beer would be over the limit.

According to the doctor interviewed, even a Marine who gargled with mouthwash within the last 20 minutes would register above the new limit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27834680




It's a very puritan move, a beer off-duty is a fundamental right, imho.
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12/22/2012 04:46 AM
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Well there is always Opium

After they are guarding it the least the muzzies can do is share it
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YEP.

They're there for it. Might as well know what it is.
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A drunk guy is the last person I would want watching my back in combat. No need to drink at work anyway. Also, no where in that article does it say anything about muslims or islam.
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Alcohol makes them react stupidly, dumbass. There are videos of marines acting like disgraceful fools while drunk. Shut the hell up and go drink yourself into a stupor if you hate life that much. pigchef
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stfu
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If you want to drink beer, then perhaps you should have joined the army.
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[link to www.washingtontimes.com]

Very soon our Jarheads will be bowing toward Mecca five times a day.
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Its the same no tolerance policy that they have towards non- psychoactive THC metabolites. They will get you for an insanely low level of those...even if you are no at all impaired. Science has nothing to do with it, in the case of THC.

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Sounds more like the USMC is trying to change their culture?

[link to www.usmc-mccs.org]

The Marine Corps objective is to eliminate alcohol abuse. Combating the debilitating threat posed by alcohol abuse and alcohol dependency on both Marines and mission readiness requires a total commitment from all levels of leadership. Leaders must be alert to characteristics of alcohol abuse and with the symptoms of the disease of alcohol dependency. All leaders must not in any way promote or condone alcohol misuse.

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When you willingly and legally sign away your very body to , of all things, the government, then you got no right to say shit. You take exactly what you're given. You chose to kill innocents. You chose to work 70 hour weeks for half of what a McDonald's clerk makes. You chose to get 30 vaccinations at once with an air gun with something added that changes you.

I know cause I'm a vet. I couldn't wait to get out. Americans don't know what it's like to live under a dictatorship but veterans do. It ain't fun and it ain't pretty.

So I say take away their beer. They aren't entitled to anything except 3 hots and a cot and a measly pittance of a payday. And if they don't like that then there can only be one logical solution, don't sign up.
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Good for the Marines.

I remember my 21st birthday... drank so much Vodka, it was oozing from my pores the next day. I reeked of it. Had to see the gunny that day... stood in the doorway to his office... he let me get away with that, thank God!

I also worked for a county government. They had a ZERO tolerance policy. And, we got piss tested all the time. It was supposed to be "random". However, I got picked all the time. Interesting, since it was well known that I did not drink.

I think they hated firing people. It happened, though.

Nothing to see here on this thread.
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12/22/2012 07:38 AM
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All of you who are dumping on OP---did you read the article?

An alcohol level of .01 brings disciplinary action. That truly is a bit ridiculous.
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[link to www.washingtontimes.com]

Very soon our Jarheads will be bowing toward Mecca five times a day.
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bsflag ...BAC testing at the unit level will save 3-5 hour of time and resources by not having to take a suspect Marine to the hospital for testing. Good tool...I don't want a Marine who's impaired in any way to operate lethal weapons or control aircraft with people on board. Should not have to explain all the problems caused by alcohol. It's just another tool to help maintain the highest standards in the Armed Forces. Semper Fi
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Wow I feel like Ted Danson at a Nation of Islam convention.

Good to know GLP still has humorless fucking nuns working the late shift.
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you're a racist. go fuck yourself.
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You guys are cracking me up.

Since when is what I said racist on GLP?
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hey, i know your kind. you're the kind that think that muslims are all lowlifes. who else? blacks and jews?
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Nope...just muzzies.
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[link to www.washingtontimes.com]

Very soon our Jarheads will be bowing toward Mecca five times a day.
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The article doesn't say jack shit about islam.
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Very soon our Jarheads will be bowing toward Mecca five times a day.
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like hell we will
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Fuck the marines. Most of them become asshole cops afterward anyway.

Semper fags.
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I guess you guys don't care that our Marines can't have a fucking beer.

Al Queda doesn't let their guys have beer either.

It makes me sick. The lack of support for our Marines makes me sick.

THEY CAN'T EVEN FART IN AFGHANISTAN!!! THEY NEED BEER!

YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!
 Quoting: Joe Six Pack 20420224


Soldiers need beer!

clappa
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


clappa
WAR INSIDE MY HEAD.