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If you held "The Caduceus" What would you do?

 
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Much Love to you Ac, and I understand what you are saying. It's nothing to play with. I've been searching a long time for that capacity you speak of.
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Possessing that remarkable ability to completely, totally understand the emotions, and the ability to magnify their emotional power, is the secret to super music stardom, as well. You make those people feel their feelings are important, that they are something powerful and beautiful and mysterious.

That is why they buy your albums, it's because you feel what they feel, and make them feel cool.
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"You make those people feel their feelings are important, that they are something powerful and beautiful and mysterious."

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also, one of the greatest mysteries in life, is why we feel, the way we do. Why does one thing make this person happy, why does this same thing, make another person sad and angry?

Granted, some of it is obvious, physical pain and physical pleasure, but in the higher emotions, it is not always revealed.

Do we really know, why certain songs, 'strike a chord' within the souls of a million album purchasers? Or where do these lyrics and melodies come from, do they entirely come, from within the individual artist, or are they coming from something deeper?

LIke in your song, OP, 'ON the loose', the lyrics

We put the mind on idle
And let the others take it for awhile


I'll be standing here beside myself
Getting ready for the final round
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also, one of the greatest mysteries in life, is why we feel, the way we do. Why does one thing make this person happy, why does this same thing, make another person sad and angry?

Granted, some of it is obvious, physical pain and physical pleasure, but in the higher emotions, it is not always revealed.

Do we really know, why certain songs, 'strike a chord' within the souls of a million album purchasers? Or where do these lyrics and melodies come from, do they entirely come, from within the individual artist, or are they coming from something deeper?

LIke in your song, OP, 'ON the loose', the lyrics

We put the mind on idle
And let the others take it for awhile


I'll be standing here beside myself
Getting ready for the final round

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From wikipedia:

"The initial errors leading to its adoption and the continuing confusion it generates are well known to medical historians. The long-standing and abundantly attested historical associations of the caduceus with commerce, theft, deception, and death are considered by many to be inappropriate in a symbol used by those engaged in the healing arts.[21] This has occasioned significant criticism of the use of the caduceus in a medical context."
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That's right, you are a Tool of the devil.
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From wikipedia:

"The initial errors leading to its adoption and the continuing confusion it generates are well known to medical historians. The long-standing and abundantly attested historical associations of the caduceus with commerce, theft, deception, and death are considered by many to be inappropriate in a symbol used by those engaged in the healing arts.[21] This has occasioned significant criticism of the use of the caduceus in a medical context."
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Some commentators have linked the symbol to the Nehushtan, a sacred object consisting of a serpent wrapped around a pole mentioned in the Bible in the Book of Numbers (Numbers 21:6-9).[15][16][17][18] The section in the Book of Numbers reads as follows:

Then the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people, so that many people of Israel died. And the people came to Moses and said, "We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD and against you. Pray to the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us." So Moses prayed for the people. And the LORD said to Moses, "Make a fiery serpent and set it on a pole, and everyone who is bitten, when he sees it, shall live." Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on a pole. And if a serpent bit anyone, he would look at the bronze serpent and live.[19]


This is one angry God, he will kill you.
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Some commentators have linked the symbol to the Nehushtan, a sacred object consisting of a serpent wrapped around a pole mentioned in the Bible in the Book of Numbers (Numbers 21:6-9).[15][16][17][18] The section in the Book of Numbers reads as follows:

Then the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people, so that many people of Israel died. And the people came to Moses and said, "We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD and against you. Pray to the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us." So Moses prayed for the people. And the LORD said to Moses, "Make a fiery serpent and set it on a pole, and everyone who is bitten, when he sees it, shall live." Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on a pole. And if a serpent bit anyone, he would look at the bronze serpent and live.[19]


This is one angry God, he will kill you.
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Wake up and see you are from Moses. Be kind.
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Hey P7:

Saw the vid. Was pretty sweet dude.

...

I noticed something really weird about it though...

...you look just like my brother. Only older. The plot thickens LOL.
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Thread: Binary Companion Theory

Binary companions....

Interesting concept, eh guys?
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I actually only thought of it while watching that "2012 A-Z" thing a few days ago, the video and picture renderings of the helical model are fascinating, the narrator says "I could watch that all day", and I agreed with him. cool2
 Quoting: pi 20063747


Good grief we are in such synch. I just saw that too and thought the same thing!

Wow.
 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Checkout the vid....

[link to www.history.com]

gasp
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I actually only thought of it while watching that "2012 A-Z" thing a few days ago, the video and picture renderings of the helical model are fascinating, the narrator says "I could watch that all day", and I agreed with him. cool2
 Quoting: pi 20063747


Good grief we are in such synch. I just saw that too and thought the same thing!

Wow.
 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Checkout the vid....

[link to www.history.com]

gasp
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The cover pic...

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Wisdom has builded her house, she has hewn out her seven pillars:
She has killed her beasts; she has mingled her wine; she has also furnished her table.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776


7 pilswisdom
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


I need to do a post on this one day.... something is not right here.

If she 'mingled' her wine... is that a good thing?

Isaiah 1:22
Douay-Rheims Bible
"Thy silver is turned into dress: thy wine is mingled with water"

New Living Translation
"Once like pure silver, you have become like worthless slag. Once so pure, you are now like watered-down wine"



Isaiah 5:22
King James Bible
"Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink"

New International Version
"Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks"



Mark 15:23
King James Bible
"And they gave him to drink wine mingled with myrrh: but he received it not"



NOTES:
Wine mingled with frankincense was what was usually given by the Jews to persons going to die.

The stupefying drink usually given to those crucified.

A grain of frankincense in a cup of wine, that his mind may be disturbed, or not sensible.

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trans_sign

Keep reading Proverbs 9 until the end. This is her so called 'wisdom'...

17) "Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant"

Stolen merchandise is a "good" thing according to her!

18) But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.

See? It's a warning.

siren2

There are TWO types of wisdom according to Scripture. One must be sure to know the differences before proceeding...

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Isaiah 1:22

"Thy silver is turned into dress: thy wine is mingled with water"




 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Interesting to note perhaps...While attending the Christmas party earlier, my 7 y/o niece and 11 y/o nephew were given watered down wine with dinner with the adults.

Being Italian, it is somewhat customary.


What are your thought on that regarding this verse Mikey?

hmm



WHAT IS Water?

What IS Wine?


What was Jesus's FIRST miracle?

Why?
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Isaiah 1:22

"Thy silver is turned into dress: thy wine is mingled with water"




 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Interesting to note perhaps...While attending the Christmas party earlier, my 7 y/o niece and 11 y/o nephew were given watered down wine with dinner with the adults.

Being Italian, it is somewhat customary.


What are your thought on that regarding this verse Mikey?

hmm



WHAT IS Water?

What IS Wine?


What was Jesus's FIRST miracle?

Why?
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Hi Seer...

flower
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Hi Seer...

flower
 Quoting: pi


Hello pi.

:)


How was your Christmas love?

By 'Christmas' I mean, your day...

I hope it was good.


As we know,

A bird must land to know the sky...

HighHopes
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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Mikey with all due respect .... Their is a difference in earthly/fleshly/carnal wisdom and heavenly/spiritual/cardinal wisdom You know this , for those un~circumsised in the heart it will be impossible for them to correctly interpret the word

It is a warning against the sensual/lower animal nature and to not mix your energies with the wrong energies ... the same principle of being unevenly yoked.

2 Corinthians 3

.14But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ.15But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart;16but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.


What about all the entries of Wisdom in the proverbs?

proverbs 4:7

Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

proverbs 1



1The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel:

2To know wisdom and instruction,
To discern the sayings of understanding,

3To receive instruction in wise behavior,
Righteousness, justice and equity;

4To give prudence to the naive,
To the youth knowledge and discretion,

5A wise man will hear and increase in learning,
And a man of understanding will acquire wise counsel,

6To understand a proverb and a figure,
The words of the wise and their riddles.

7The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge;
Fools despise wisdom and instruction.


20Wisdom shouts in the street,
She lifts her voice in the square;

21At the head of the noisy streets she cries out;
At the entrance of the gates in the city she utters her sayings:

22“How long, O naive ones, will you love being simple-minded?
And scoffers delight themselves in scoffing
And fools hate knowledge?

23“Turn to my reproof,
Behold, I will pour out my spirit on you;
I will make my words known to you.

24“Because I called and you refused,
I stretched out my hand and no one paid attention;

25And you neglected all my counsel
And did not want my reproof;

26I will also laugh at your calamity;
I will mock when your dread comes,

27When your dread comes like a storm
And your calamity comes like a whirlwind,
When distress and anguish come upon you.

28“Then they will call on me, but I will not answer;
They will seek me diligently but they will not find me,

29Because they hated knowledge
And did not choose the fear of the LORD.

30“They would not accept my counsel,
They spurned all my reproof.

31“So they shall eat of the fruit of their own way
And be satiated with their own devices.

32“For the waywardness of the naive will kill them,
And the complacency of fools will destroy them.

33“But he who listens to me shall live securely
And will be at ease from the dread of evil.”

also about the mingling ~~~

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"For because Christ bore us all, in that He also bore our sins, we see that in the water is understood the people, but in the wine is showed the blood of Christ. But when the water is mingled in the cup with wine, the people [are] made one with Christ, and the assembly of believers is associated and conjoined with Him on whom it believes; which association and conjunction of water and wine is so mingled in the Lord's cup, that that mixture cannot any more be separated.

"Whence, moreover, nothing can separate the Church — that is, the people established in the Church, faithfully and firmly persevering in that which they have believed — from Christ, in such a way as to prevent their undivided love from always abiding and adhering. Thus, therefore, in consecrating the cup of the Lord, water alone cannot be offered, even as wine alone cannot be offered. For if any one offer wine only, the blood of Christ is dissociated from us; but if the water be alone, the people are dissociated from Christ; but when both are mingled, and are joined with one another by a close union, there is completed a spiritual and heavenly sacrament.

"Thus the cup of the Lord is not indeed water alone, nor wine alone, unless each be mingled with the other; just as, on the other hand, the body of the Lord cannot be flour alone or water alone, unless both should be united and joined together and compacted in the mass of one bread; in which very sacrament our people are shown to be made one, so that in like manner as many grains, collected, and ground, and mixed together into one mass, make one bread; so in Christ, who is the heavenly bread, we may know that there is one body, with which our number is joined and united" ("On the Sacrament of the Cup of the Lord," No 13).

Another important symbolic explanation for this rite is given in St. Thomas Aquinas, in his Summa Theologiae, III pars q 74, 6-8:

"Water ought to be mingled with the wine which is offered in this sacrament.

"First of all, on account of its institution: for it is believed with probability that our Lord instituted this sacrament in wine tempered with water according to the custom of that country: hence it is written (Proverbs 9:5): 'Drink the wine which I have mixed for you.'

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Hi Seer...

flower
 Quoting: pi


Hello pi.

:)


How was your Christmas love?

By 'Christmas' I mean, your day...

I hope it was good.


As we know,

A bird must land to know the sky...

HighHopes
 Quoting: Seer777


Thank you for asking, it was good. Unfortunately I have had some odd problems with energies starting around midnight this morning. I was up all night, as P7 and I seem to do frequently. LOL. Just feeling a little mixed up. Especially in the middle section.

How about you? Was your day a good one?
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This sh*t is gettin' real muthaf*cka!


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Isaiah 1:22

"Thy silver is turned into dress: thy wine is mingled with water"




 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Interesting to note perhaps...While attending the Christmas party earlier, my 7 y/o niece and 11 y/o nephew were given watered down wine with dinner with the adults.

Being Italian, it is somewhat customary.


What are your thought on that regarding this verse Mikey?

hmm



WHAT IS Water?

What IS Wine?


What was Jesus's FIRST miracle?

Why?
 Quoting: Seer777


I'm Italian myself, and so my first thought while reading this is that it may relate to Catholic rituals.

Now there's a can o worms! Let's just say I have a deep distrust when it comes to Vatican traditions.

I'll have to study this further.

pope

Also... I've seen research indicating that 'wine' (in John 2) may have been mistranslated for sinister purposes. It may have originally meant 'grape juice'.

Personally, I can't stand alchoholic beverages.

tdown

Good questions... I'll look into it.
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Hi Seer...

flower
 Quoting: pi


Hello pi.

:)


How was your Christmas love?

By 'Christmas' I mean, your day...

I hope it was good.


As we know,

A bird must land to know the sky...

HighHopes
 Quoting: Seer777


Thank you for asking, it was good. Unfortunately I have had some odd problems with energies starting around midnight this morning. I was up all night, as P7 and I seem to do frequently. LOL. Just feeling a little mixed up. Especially in the middle section.

How about you? Was your day a good one?
 Quoting: pi


It was.

Gentle.


Which this entire week has been, for the most part.

Surprisingly so...


Which honestly, I am grateful for, being this week in History, was so hyped UP.


To mingle merrily indeed with plentiful food and drink is a gift not to be taken for granted.

But celebrated and acknowledged...

FilltheCup

:)
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Personally, I can't stand alchoholic beverages.

 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Really?


I have found that those who completely abstain from alcohol, to be those I am not use to encountering.

Perhaps that is why we find difficulty in relating...

hmm
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Mikey with all due respect .... Their is a difference in earthly/fleshly/carnal wisdom and heavenly/spiritual/cardinal wisdom
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Indeed...

The Epistle of James (James 3:13-18; cf. James 1:5) distinguishes between two kinds of wisdom. One is a false wisdom, which is characterized as "earthly, sensual, devilish" and is associated with strife and contention. The other is the 'wisdom that comes from above':

But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, [and] easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

—James 3:17

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