If you held "The Caduceus" What would you do?

From wikipedia:

"The initial errors leading to its adoption and the continuing confusion it generates are well known to medical historians. The long-standing and abundantly attested historical associations of the caduceus with commerce, theft, deception, and death are considered by many to be inappropriate in a symbol used by those engaged in the healing arts.[21] This has occasioned significant criticism of the use of the caduceus in a medical context."

That's right, you are a Tool of the devil.

..here friend EVIL SOMETHING HUMANS SHOULD NOT UNDERSTAND. little sheep human....

Some commentators have linked the symbol to the Nehushtan, a sacred object consisting of a serpent wrapped around a pole mentioned in the Bible in the Book of Numbers (Numbers 21:6-9).[15][16][17][18] The section in the Book of Numbers reads as follows:

Then the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people, so that many people of Israel died. And the people came to Moses and said, "We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD and against you. Pray to the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us." So Moses prayed for the people. And the LORD said to Moses, "Make a fiery serpent and set it on a pole, and everyone who is bitten, when he sees it, shall live." Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on a pole. And if a serpent bit anyone, he would look at the bronze serpent and live.[19]

This is one angry God, he will kill you.

Wake up and see you are from Moses. Be kind.

Hey P7:

Saw the vid. Was pretty sweet dude.

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I noticed something really weird about it though...

...you look just like my brother. Only older. The plot thickens LOL.

Thread: Binary Companion Theory

Binary companions....

Interesting concept, eh guys?

Checkout the vid....

[link to www.history.com]

The cover pic...



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Last Edited by Uncle Mikey on 12/25/2012 10:34 PM

I need to do a post on this one day.... something is not right here.

If she 'mingled' her wine... is that a good thing?

Isaiah 1:22
Douay-Rheims Bible
"Thy silver is turned into dress: thy wine is mingled with water"

New Living Translation
"Once like pure silver, you have become like worthless slag. Once so pure, you are now like watered-down wine"


Isaiah 5:22
King James Bible
"Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink"

New International Version
"Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks"


Mark 15:23
King James Bible
"And they gave him to drink wine mingled with myrrh: but he received it not"


NOTES:
Wine mingled with frankincense was what was usually given by the Jews to persons going to die.

The stupefying drink usually given to those crucified.

A grain of frankincense in a cup of wine, that his mind may be disturbed, or not sensible.

[link to bible.cc]



Keep reading Proverbs 9 until the end. This is her so called 'wisdom'...

17) "Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant"

Stolen merchandise is a "good" thing according to her!

18) But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.

See? It's a warning.



There are TWO types of wisdom according to Scripture. One must be sure to know the differences before proceeding...

Interesting to note perhaps...While attending the Christmas party earlier, my 7 y/o niece and 11 y/o nephew were given watered down wine with dinner with the adults.

Being Italian, it is somewhat customary.


What are your thought on that regarding this verse Mikey?





WHAT IS Water?

What IS Wine?


What was Jesus's FIRST miracle?

Why?

Hi Seer...

Hello pi.

:)


How was your Christmas love?

By 'Christmas' I mean, your day...

I hope it was good.


As we know,

A bird must land to know the sky...

Mikey with all due respect .... Their is a difference in earthly/fleshly/carnal wisdom and heavenly/spiritual/cardinal wisdom You know this , for those un~circumsised in the heart it will be impossible for them to correctly interpret the word

It is a warning against the sensual/lower animal nature and to not mix your energies with the wrong energies ... the same principle of being unevenly yoked.

2 Corinthians 3

.14But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ.15But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart;16but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.


What about all the entries of Wisdom in the proverbs?

proverbs 4:7

Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

proverbs 1



1The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel:

2To know wisdom and instruction,
To discern the sayings of understanding,

3To receive instruction in wise behavior,
Righteousness, justice and equity;

4To give prudence to the naive,
To the youth knowledge and discretion,

5A wise man will hear and increase in learning,
And a man of understanding will acquire wise counsel,

6To understand a proverb and a figure,
The words of the wise and their riddles.

7The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge;
Fools despise wisdom and instruction.


20Wisdom shouts in the street,
She lifts her voice in the square;

21At the head of the noisy streets she cries out;
At the entrance of the gates in the city she utters her sayings:

22“How long, O naive ones, will you love being simple-minded?
And scoffers delight themselves in scoffing
And fools hate knowledge?

23“Turn to my reproof,
Behold, I will pour out my spirit on you;
I will make my words known to you.

24“Because I called and you refused,
I stretched out my hand and no one paid attention;

25And you neglected all my counsel
And did not want my reproof;

26I will also laugh at your calamity;
I will mock when your dread comes,

27When your dread comes like a storm
And your calamity comes like a whirlwind,
When distress and anguish come upon you.

28“Then they will call on me, but I will not answer;
They will seek me diligently but they will not find me,

29Because they hated knowledge
And did not choose the fear of the LORD.

30“They would not accept my counsel,
They spurned all my reproof.

31“So they shall eat of the fruit of their own way
And be satiated with their own devices.

32“For the waywardness of the naive will kill them,
And the complacency of fools will destroy them.

33“But he who listens to me shall live securely
And will be at ease from the dread of evil.”

also about the mingling ~~~

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"For because Christ bore us all, in that He also bore our sins, we see that in the water is understood the people, but in the wine is showed the blood of Christ. But when the water is mingled in the cup with wine, the people [are] made one with Christ, and the assembly of believers is associated and conjoined with Him on whom it believes; which association and conjunction of water and wine is so mingled in the Lord's cup, that that mixture cannot any more be separated.

"Whence, moreover, nothing can separate the Church — that is, the people established in the Church, faithfully and firmly persevering in that which they have believed — from Christ, in such a way as to prevent their undivided love from always abiding and adhering. Thus, therefore, in consecrating the cup of the Lord, water alone cannot be offered, even as wine alone cannot be offered. For if any one offer wine only, the blood of Christ is dissociated from us; but if the water be alone, the people are dissociated from Christ; but when both are mingled, and are joined with one another by a close union, there is completed a spiritual and heavenly sacrament.

"Thus the cup of the Lord is not indeed water alone, nor wine alone, unless each be mingled with the other; just as, on the other hand, the body of the Lord cannot be flour alone or water alone, unless both should be united and joined together and compacted in the mass of one bread; in which very sacrament our people are shown to be made one, so that in like manner as many grains, collected, and ground, and mixed together into one mass, make one bread; so in Christ, who is the heavenly bread, we may know that there is one body, with which our number is joined and united" ("On the Sacrament of the Cup of the Lord," No 13).

Another important symbolic explanation for this rite is given in St. Thomas Aquinas, in his Summa Theologiae, III pars q 74, 6-8:

"Water ought to be mingled with the wine which is offered in this sacrament.

"First of all, on account of its institution: for it is believed with probability that our Lord instituted this sacrament in wine tempered with water according to the custom of that country: hence it is written (Proverbs 9:5): 'Drink the wine which I have mixed for you.'

Much Love to You

( sorry for the wall of text)

Thank you for asking, it was good. Unfortunately I have had some odd problems with energies starting around midnight this morning. I was up all night, as P7 and I seem to do frequently. LOL. Just feeling a little mixed up. Especially in the middle section.

How about you? Was your day a good one?

This sh*t is gettin' real muthaf*cka!

I'm Italian myself, and so my first thought while reading this is that it may relate to Catholic rituals.

Now there's a can o worms! Let's just say I have a deep distrust when it comes to Vatican traditions.

I'll have to study this further.



Also... I've seen research indicating that 'wine' (in John 2) may have been mistranslated for sinister purposes. It may have originally meant 'grape juice'.

Personally, I can't stand alchoholic beverages.



Good questions... I'll look into it.

It was.

Gentle.


Which this entire week has been, for the most part.

Surprisingly so...


Which honestly, I am grateful for, being this week in History, was so hyped UP.


To mingle merrily indeed with plentiful food and drink is a gift not to be taken for granted.

But celebrated and acknowledged...



:)

Really?


I have found that those who completely abstain from alcohol, to be those I am not use to encountering.

Perhaps that is why we find difficulty in relating...

Indeed...

The Epistle of James (James 3:13-18; cf. James 1:5) distinguishes between two kinds of wisdom. One is a false wisdom, which is characterized as "earthly, sensual, devilish" and is associated with strife and contention. The other is the 'wisdom that comes from above':

But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, [and] easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

—James 3:17

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the water is turned into wine.

Jesus has asked the question, "Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with" -- Matthew 20:22

12 /7/12

Dreaming of me wearing a robe, and in the pocket of the robe I pulled out a cup
like the Last supper cup, and it was empty, and I said.."I fill this cup whenever I am thirsty,
and drink, see the design on it? I designed it myself.

Most assuredly

here is some more info about the mixing/mingling of the wine

Strongs definition of masak/mix

[link to biblesuite.com]

also 2 maccabees 15:3

For as it is hurtful to drink wine or water alone; and as wine mingled with water is pleasant, and delighteth the taste: even so speech finely framed delighteth the ears of them that read the story. And here shall be an end.

It could also relate allegorically to this \/


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Wisdom Has Mingled Her Wine!
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Proverbs 9:1-2 & 5 Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewnout her seven pillars:2 She hath killed her beasts;
she hath mingled her wine
;
she hathalso furnished her table.5
Come, eat of my bread, and drink of the wine which I havemingled.
This is a symbolically laced setting of scripture. ‘Wisdom’ hathmingled her ‘wine’. Wine and bread in this setting is symbolic for doctrine. Doctrine is defined as
‘something taught, especially the principles of religion.’
Listening to the opinions of other teachers within theJudaic/Christian tradition is
requisite
to partake of this
mingled wine
. Biblical study mixed within multitude of counselors or teachers is the perfect recipe.Proverbs 11:14 Where no counsel is, the people fall: but
in themultitude of counsellors there is safety

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Those, whose doctrine has been on the ‘threshing floor’ in a sense,have mingled their wine. Wine, meaning doctrine.

crucifixion of the flesh, for the spirit is holy.

crucifiction of the spirit, for the flesh, is 666, the baphomet, pure evil and devolution/devilution.

you devils get off on thinking you are tricking humans, you have brought this curse upon your own race, but because they love you, it is justified.

What has Man NOT delivered unto one another, that the worst of the worst 'Demons' in Hell could perpetrate on Man?



If you have a message attempt to deliver it without damning your peers.

As your self righteousness is based on assumption in 'The World' in which you live.



The World of ONE surrounded by Many.

Perception IS Everything...

Lol... yeah, I'm more of a coffee person I guess. BTW, I'm not really this strange offline. I'm quiet and un-confrontational. I usually just kick back and listen to others talk about life. You would be surprised.



Oh, I should mention my usual wacky theory stuff...

OK, so wine can mean blood or DNA. So mingling DNA can create seven strands or seven 'pillars'.

She may be offering a sort of 'immortality' by offering it (transformation GMO Hybrid) to others. Of course, my research has shown that altering ones DNA that much is an automatic permanent death sentenece (i.e. one ends up in 'hell').

Right on! Thank you for this.