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Are all of the videos black with no video, just audio? Maybe something is wrong with my computer?
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Are all of the videos black with no video, just audio? Maybe something is wrong with my computer?
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There's a video.

Here's a direct link.
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OP please keep bumping this thread regularly. At least once a day, would be great.

If it helps and saves only one person, or bring only one person to Christ, it'll be all worth it.
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Are all of the videos black with no video, just audio? Maybe something is wrong with my computer?
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There's a video.

Here's a direct link.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

OP please keep bumping this thread regularly. At least once a day, would be great.

If it helps and saves only one person, or bring only one person to Christ, it'll be all worth it.
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If you watch the section on Mt. Sinai

1) If you do research you'll find others verified what Ron found.

2) He's showing the location directly on video, in addition, other researchers are showing video evidence of the exact same thing.

3) You can use google map, to verify yourself, that this is a real location

I haven't yet came across someone to debunk this. People will criticize Ron, but can't provide any evidence to debunk him, and in particular and in this example, the Mt. Sinai evidence.
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Are all of the videos black with no video, just audio? Maybe something is wrong with my computer?
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There's a video.

Here's a direct link.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

OP please keep bumping this thread regularly. At least once a day, would be great.

If it helps and saves only one person, or bring only one person to Christ, it'll be all worth it.
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If you watch the section on Mt. Sinai

1) If you do research you'll find others verified what Ron found.

2) He's showing the location directly on video, in addition, other researchers are showing video evidence of the exact same thing.

3) You can use google map, to verify yourself, that this is a real location

I haven't yet came across someone to debunk this. People will criticize Ron, but can't provide any evidence to debunk him, and in particular and in this example, the Mt. Sinai evidence.
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THIS.

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Are all of the videos black with no video, just audio? Maybe something is wrong with my computer?
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There's a video.

Here's a direct link.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

OP please keep bumping this thread regularly. At least once a day, would be great.

If it helps and saves only one person, or bring only one person to Christ, it'll be all worth it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30531093


If you watch the section on Mt. Sinai

1) If you do research you'll find others verified what Ron found.

2) He's showing the location directly on video, in addition, other researchers are showing video evidence of the exact same thing.

3) You can use google map, to verify yourself, that this is a real location

I haven't yet came across someone to debunk this. People will criticize Ron, but can't provide any evidence to debunk him, and in particular and in this example, the Mt. Sinai evidence.
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You will have no problem showing us that actual tests he had done on the blood, and i mean the actual notes and papers from the experiment.
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Why?

Praise the Lord for many reasons, but why over "finding His blood"?
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Why?

Praise the Lord for many reasons, but why over "finding His blood"?
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8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. 1 John 5
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If you watch the section on Mt. Sinai

1) If you do research you'll find others verified what Ron found.

2) He's showing the location directly on video, in addition, other researchers are showing video evidence of the exact same thing.

3) You can use google map, to verify yourself, that this is a real location

I haven't yet came across someone to debunk this
. People will criticize Ron, but can't provide any evidence to debunk him, and in particular and in this example, the Mt. Sinai evidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30531093


Did you look very hard?

Some simple google searching reveals multiple christian sites refuting his claims. This same individual also claims to have found the following:

- Noah's arc
- Noah & his wife's tomb
- Ark of the Covenant
- location of Mt. Sinai
- location of Sodom & Gomorrah
- location of the Tower Of Babel
- location of the site of Jesus' crucifixion

How did a former nurse turned pseudoarcheologist with no professional education/training find all these biblical sites????

From his wikipedia page:

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Ronald Eldon Wyatt (1933 – August 4, 1999) was an adventurer and former nurse anesthetist noted for advocating the Durupınar site as the site of Noah's Ark, among other Bible-related pseudoarchaeology. His claims were dismissed by scientists, historians, biblical scholars, and even by leaders in his own Seventh-day Adventist Church, but his work continued to have a following among some fundamentalists and evangelical Christians.

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While Wyatt won a devoted following from some fundamentalist Christians, he was not considered credible by professional archaeologists and biblical scholars. The Garden Tomb Association of Jerusalem state in a letter they issue to visitors on request:
The Council of the Garden Tomb Association (London) totally refute the claim of Mr Wyatt to have discovered the original Ark of the Covenant or any other biblical artifacts within the boundaries of the area known as the Garden Tomb Jerusalem.
Though Mr Wyatt was allowed to dig within this privately owned garden on a number of occasions (the last occasion being the summer of 1991) staff members of the Association observed his progress and entered his excavated shaft. As far as we are aware nothing was ever discovered to support his claims nor have we seen any evidence of biblical artifacts or temple treasures.

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Archaeologist Joe Zias of Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) has stated that "Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed excavation in Israel or Jerusalem. In order to excavate one must have at least a BA in archaeology which he does not possess despite his claims to the contrary. ... [His claims] fall into the category of trash which one finds in tabloids such as the National Enquirer, Sun etc."[13]

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So how did an amateur archeologist with no formal education in archeology and no professional training manage to find all these holy sites/discoveries that have eluded the most talented and well-respected archeologists and biblical scholars in the world for hundreds of years?

hmm

If his claims had any credibility in the field of archeology don't you think he would have been heralded as one of the most famous archeologists of the 20th century?

Why is this not the case and why is he regarded instead as a fraud?

huh

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If you watch the section on Mt. Sinai

1) If you do research you'll find others verified what Ron found.

2) He's showing the location directly on video, in addition, other researchers are showing video evidence of the exact same thing.

3) You can use google map, to verify yourself, that this is a real location

I haven't yet came across someone to debunk this
. People will criticize Ron, but can't provide any evidence to debunk him, and in particular and in this example, the Mt. Sinai evidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30531093


Did you look very hard?

Some simple google searching reveals multiple christian sites refuting his claims. This same individual also claims to have found the following:

- Noah's arc
- Noah & his wife's tomb
- Ark of the Covenant
- location of Mt. Sinai
- location of Sodom & Gomorrah
- location of the Tower Of Babel
- location of the site of Jesus' crucifixion

How did a former nurse turned pseudoarcheologist with no professional education/training find all these biblical sites????

From his wikipedia page:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ronald Eldon Wyatt (1933 – August 4, 1999) was an adventurer and former nurse anesthetist noted for advocating the Durupınar site as the site of Noah's Ark, among other Bible-related pseudoarchaeology. His claims were dismissed by scientists, historians, biblical scholars, and even by leaders in his own Seventh-day Adventist Church, but his work continued to have a following among some fundamentalists and evangelical Christians.

------------
While Wyatt won a devoted following from some fundamentalist Christians, he was not considered credible by professional archaeologists and biblical scholars. The Garden Tomb Association of Jerusalem state in a letter they issue to visitors on request:
The Council of the Garden Tomb Association (London) totally refute the claim of Mr Wyatt to have discovered the original Ark of the Covenant or any other biblical artifacts within the boundaries of the area known as the Garden Tomb Jerusalem.
Though Mr Wyatt was allowed to dig within this privately owned garden on a number of occasions (the last occasion being the summer of 1991) staff members of the Association observed his progress and entered his excavated shaft. As far as we are aware nothing was ever discovered to support his claims nor have we seen any evidence of biblical artifacts or temple treasures.

--------
Archaeologist Joe Zias of Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) has stated that "Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed excavation in Israel or Jerusalem. In order to excavate one must have at least a BA in archaeology which he does not possess despite his claims to the contrary. ... [His claims] fall into the category of trash which one finds in tabloids such as the National Enquirer, Sun etc."[13]

-----------------------

So how did an amateur archeologist with no formal education in archeology and no professional training manage to find all these holy sites/discoveries that have eluded the most talented and well-respected archeologists and biblical scholars in the world for hundreds of years?

hmm

If his claims had any credibility in the field of archeology don't you think he would have been heralded as one of the most famous archeologists of the 20th century?

Why is this not the case and why is he regarded instead as a fraud?

huh
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Yes I already looked at the wiki.

Okay, let's take, his claim about the sulfur content of the brimstone, that doesn't occur anywhere naturally.

Where's the specific evidence that debunked this, that doesn't show up on the wiki.

Evidently you didn't look very hard.
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Yes I already looked at the wiki.

Okay, let's take, his claim about the sulfur content of the brimstone, that doesn't occur anywhere naturally.

Where's the specific evidence that debunked this, that doesn't show up on the wiki.

Evidently you didn't look very hard.
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Fortunately I never claimed that his Wikipedia page debunked his claims. I said some simple google searching turns up some Christian based sites that refute his claims - search for yourself. Evidently you misread my post.

If you wish to take the word of a man whose claims have not been validated nor corroborated by accredited professionals in the fields of archeology, science, and biblical studies, that is up to you to decide.

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Yes I already looked at the wiki.

Okay, let's take, his claim about the sulfur content of the brimstone, that doesn't occur anywhere naturally.

Where's the specific evidence that debunked this, that doesn't show up on the wiki.

Evidently you didn't look very hard.
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Fortunately I never claimed that his Wikipedia page debunked his claims. I said some simple google searching turns up some Christian based sites that refute his claims - search for yourself. Evidently you misread my post.

If you wish to take the word of a man whose claims have not been validated nor corroborated by any accredited professionals in the fields of archeology, science, and biblical studies, that is up to you to decide.
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I looked at other sources criticizing him as well.

I can use many examples, but again, let's take one simple and specific presented evidence regarding the sulfur content of the brimstones at the site.

Find from the countless sites that criticizes him, where they presented a specific counter evidence specifically regarding the brimstone.

If these were 'accredited professionals in the fields of archeology, science, and biblical studies', then they would have presented actual specific evidence debunking his discovery of the the sulphur content of the brimstones, again, which is only one of many examples.
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Yes I already looked at the wiki.

Okay, let's take, his claim about the sulfur content of the brimstone, that doesn't occur anywhere naturally.

Where's the specific evidence that debunked this, that doesn't show up on the wiki.

Evidently you didn't look very hard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30531093


Fortunately I never claimed that his Wikipedia page debunked his claims. I said some simple google searching turns up some Christian based sites that refute his claims - search for yourself. Evidently you misread my post.

If you wish to take the word of a man whose claims have not been validated nor corroborated by any accredited professionals in the fields of archeology, science, and biblical studies, that is up to you to decide.
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I looked at other sources criticizing him as well.

I can use many examples, but again, let's take one simple and specific presented evidence regarding the sulfur content of the brimstones at the site.

Find from the countless sites that criticizes him, where they presented a specific counter evidence specifically regarding the brimstone.

If these were 'accredited professionals in the fields of archeology, science, and biblical studies', then they would have presented actual specific evidence debunking his discovery of the the sulphur content of the brimstones, again, which is only one of many examples.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30531093


You are missing the larger context of the point I'm trying to communicate. If this individual's claims were valid - he would have been heralded as one of the greatest archeologists of the last several hundred years. What could be bigger than finding Noah's ark, the Ark of the Covenant, and the crucifixion site of Jesus? Yet there is no corroboration nor validation from the archeological and scientific communities of his claims. Should that not raise a major 'red flag' surrounding the credibility of this individual and his assertions? Does this pass the sniff test? A man who lays claim to the greatest archeological discoveries of the last several hundred years and no respected/esteemed professionals in the field have validated/confirmed his findings? Why not?

hmm

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Yes I already looked at the wiki.

Okay, let's take, his claim about the sulfur content of the brimstone, that doesn't occur anywhere naturally.

Where's the specific evidence that debunked this, that doesn't show up on the wiki.

Evidently you didn't look very hard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30531093


Fortunately I never claimed that his Wikipedia page debunked his claims. I said some simple google searching turns up some Christian based sites that refute his claims - search for yourself. Evidently you misread my post.

If you wish to take the word of a man whose claims have not been validated nor corroborated by any accredited professionals in the fields of archeology, science, and biblical studies, that is up to you to decide.
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I looked at other sources criticizing him as well.

I can use many examples, but again, let's take one simple and specific presented evidence regarding the sulfur content of the brimstones at the site.

Find from the countless sites that criticizes him, where they presented a specific counter evidence specifically regarding the brimstone.

If these were 'accredited professionals in the fields of archeology, science, and biblical studies', then they would have presented actual specific evidence debunking his discovery of the the sulphur content of the brimstones, again, which is only one of many examples.
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You are missing the larger context of the point I'm trying to communicate. If this individual's claims were valid - he would have been heralded as one of the greatest archeologists of the last several hundred years. What could be bigger than finding Noah's ark, the Ark of the Covenant, and the crucifixion site of Jesus? Yet there is no corroboration nor validation from the archeological and scientific communities of his claims. Should that not raise a major 'red flag' surrounding the credibility of this individual and his assertions? Does this pass the sniff test? A man who lays claim to the greatest archeological discoveries of the last several hundred years and no respected/esteemed professionals in the field have validated/confirmed his findings? Why not?

hmm
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Again look at the actual presented evidence, rather than criticisms, based on no evidence.

If you don't, this is how the masses will remain blind and ignorant.
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Again look at the actual presented evidence, rather than criticisms, based on no evidence.

If you don't, this is how the masses will remain blind and ignorant.
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I asked you why his work is not validated by the scientific/archeological community. Do you have a logical answer to address this major red flag surrounding his work?

We'd be remaining 'blind & ignorant' to accept an individual's claims in the absence of any confirmation/corroboration through the necessary peer review process. Until the work is independently confirmed - it's nothing more than claims/allegations and does not qualify as 'evidence'.

The reason the work MUST be peer reviewed is that it needs to be examinated & evaluated by qualified experts in the respective fields. Neither you nor I would possess the necessary qualifications to critique the findings - that's why experts in these fields need to do so in order to give them any credibility. This has not happened and will not happen. What does that tell you?

But as I said you are entitled to believe this individual's claims at your own discretion. I'm only advocating exercising caution and discernment.

peace

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Again look at the actual presented evidence, rather than criticisms, based on no evidence.

If you don't, this is how the masses will remain blind and ignorant.
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I'm only advocating exercising caution and discernment.
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Same here. To blindly accept, is just as foolish to blindly reject.
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Yes I already looked at the wiki.

Okay, let's take, his claim about the sulfur content of the brimstone, that doesn't occur anywhere naturally.

Where's the specific evidence that debunked this, that doesn't show up on the wiki.

Evidently you didn't look very hard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30531093


Fortunately I never claimed that his Wikipedia page debunked his claims. I said some simple google searching turns up some Christian based sites that refute his claims - search for yourself. Evidently you misread my post.

If you wish to take the word of a man whose claims have not been validated nor corroborated by accredited professionals in the fields of archeology, science, and biblical studies, that is up to you to decide.
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It´s you, man who call Ron Wyatt a liar.
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Again look at the actual presented evidence, rather than criticisms, based on no evidence.

If you don't, this is how the masses will remain blind and ignorant.
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I'm only advocating exercising caution and discernment.
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Same here. To blindly accept, is just as foolish to blindly reject.
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Yeh, you must not be blind, but seeing! Though it is not your decision whether you can or cannot see. While you do have some free will, supposedly, this is not where you have it.
You see, it was always God's decision, to make one seeing or to leave him blind.
Well, let us look here at some evidence.

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Yes I already looked at the wiki.

Okay, let's take, his claim about the sulfur content of the brimstone, that doesn't occur anywhere naturally.

Where's the specific evidence that debunked this, that doesn't show up on the wiki.

Evidently you didn't look very hard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30531093


Fortunately I never claimed that his Wikipedia page debunked his claims. I said some simple google searching turns up some Christian based sites that refute his claims - search for yourself. Evidently you misread my post.

If you wish to take the word of a man whose claims have not been validated nor corroborated by any accredited professionals in the fields of archeology, science, and biblical studies, that is up to you to decide.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


I looked at other sources criticizing him as well.

I can use many examples, but again, let's take one simple and specific presented evidence regarding the sulfur content of the brimstones at the site.

Find from the countless sites that criticizes him, where they presented a specific counter evidence specifically regarding the brimstone.

If these were 'accredited professionals in the fields of archeology, science, and biblical studies', then they would have presented actual specific evidence debunking his discovery of the the sulphur content of the brimstones, again, which is only one of many examples.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30531093


You are missing the larger context of the point I'm trying to communicate. If this individual's claims were valid - he would have been heralded as one of the greatest archeologists of the last several hundred years. What could be bigger than finding Noah's ark, the Ark of the Covenant, and the crucifixion site of Jesus? Yet there is no corroboration nor validation from the archeological and scientific communities of his claims. Should that not raise a major 'red flag' surrounding the credibility of this individual and his assertions? Does this pass the sniff test? A man who lays claim to the greatest archeological discoveries of the last several hundred years and no respected/esteemed professionals in the field have validated/confirmed his findings? Why not?

hmm
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dont put too much faith in mainstream academics telling the truth..they claimed the pot leaf above the Egyptian Goddess Seshats head was some mysterious plant that does not exist..
[link to imageshack.us]

lol....right..very mysterious leaf indeed..
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Thanks for the vid. I didnt' realize he had direct supernatural encounter with Jesus.
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Again look at the actual presented evidence, rather than criticisms, based on no evidence.

If you don't, this is how the masses will remain blind and ignorant.
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I'm only advocating exercising caution and discernment.
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Same here. To blindly accept, is just as foolish to blindly reject.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30531093

Yeh, you must not be blind, but seeing! Though it is not your decision whether you can or cannot see. While you do have some free will, supposedly, this is not where you have it.
You see, it was always God's decision, to make one seeing or to leave him blind.
Well, let us look here at some evidence.


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Thanks for the vid.
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cool. so this blood has been found.. proves nothing.

all you have to do, to prove anything is simple:

BRING ME YOUR GOD.
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cool. so this blood has been found.. proves nothing.

all you have to do, to prove anything is simple:

BRING ME YOUR GOD.
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