Reposted: Sandy Hook Massacre - Some new leads | |
0311INFANTRYSIR User ID: 29546719 United States 12/23/2012 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That was a semi-auto shotgun, not an AR, AR's do not have a side charging handle, they would have been pulling at the back of the weapon if it were a AR/M14/M4..I am a certified Armorer for the M16/M4/AR-15 and that WAS NOT an AR type weapon. Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR I could see it was a shotgun, and I don't know shit about guns. Yup "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" ~ Benjamin Franklin. |
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GunTard User ID: 1967948 Canada 12/23/2012 12:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It wouldn't matter if they pulled a box of cereal out of the trunk, they want it to be an AR so that's what it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30682970 No, apparently they pulled a shotgun out of the trunk. They said the bushmaster was recovered inside the school. Actually, they said that a assault rifle, a shotgun, and two handguns were found in the school. And another shotgun was found in the trunk. Isn't that too many guns? Didn't Nancy only own 4? It was likely a Saiga 12, which is a shotgun that looks like an "assault rifle", hence the confusion. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29019521 United States 12/23/2012 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.courant.com] Quoting: Jonny Blaze "He killed himself as police entered the building." Exactly at the time where 'end the life of Adam' occurs on the scanner. "He then drove to the school, getting there about 9:30 a.m." Makes no mention of who's car he drove. "and the fact that unfired bullets from Lanza's rifle were found on the ground" unfired bullets found in Soto's classroom. Please stop with the "end the life of adam" bit. Many clear minded and articulate posters spent hours yesterday analyzing that audio, and showed beyond a shadow of a doubt that was NOT what was said. Not to mention, that plenty of astute minds gave examples of why that never, in a million years, would have been a code signal. |
0311INFANTRYSIR User ID: 29546719 United States 12/23/2012 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It wouldn't matter if they pulled a box of cereal out of the trunk, they want it to be an AR so that's what it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30682970 No, apparently they pulled a shotgun out of the trunk. They said the bushmaster was recovered inside the school. Actually, they said that a assault rifle, a shotgun, and two handguns were found in the school. And another shotgun was found in the trunk. Isn't that too many guns? Didn't Nancy only own 4? It was likely a Saiga 12, which is a shotgun that looks like an "assault rifle", hence the confusion. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org] I don't think it was a Saiga, I own one, I am thinking it was too long for a saiga which is derived from the AK platform. However, I could be wrong, it just seemed to me more like a longer weapon, but looks can be deceiving especially through somewhat crappy video. Nice Catch. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" ~ Benjamin Franklin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15277493 United States 12/23/2012 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.istockanalyst.com] Gary Hartwig, special agent-in-charge of Homeland Security Investigations, said the investigation "has dealt a serious blow to alleged criminal organizations suspected of trafficking large quantities of heroin and cocaine from Mexico into the Chicago area." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30669911 United States 12/23/2012 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fyi, one article mentioned that Nancy Lanza is a close friends with someone who has a rank in their police department.. could it be this policeman/officer related to something else so the cops are warning and threatening people to be careful on who to blame? think about it.. This is not a case of a kid who went nuts and started shooting everyone..how could he know he is free to shoot everyone there and that he wont get busted ringing the door bell while the school is using a visual machine to see who is outside...remember, they said he has a rifle , with a mask, wearing vest ...doesnt the person who opened the door doesnt recognize anything sinister on it? common sense...what we know is far from shit..and i have a feeling that cops are involved IMO |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8915967 United States 12/23/2012 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought this was "curious": Quoting: Yes I Did !!!! "....Dan Holmes, who owns a local landscaping business, said Nancy Lanza was a gun collector, and that she showed off a rifle she had recently purchased. "She told me she'd go target shooting with her boys pretty often," Holmes said. But ATF Special Assistant Agent Gene Marquez said his agency "has not been able to uncover any evidence that the mother and the son were actively engaged in going to the gun ranges, practicing marksmanship, or anything of that nature." [link to www.cnn.com] Boy(s) - I thought the one boy had nothing to do with her? Yeah, it was made CLEAR that Adam didn't associate with his dad or brother for years. Yes but he said this "She told me she'd go target shooting with her boys pretty often," Holmes said. With her boys I thought that she didn't go anyone where the other boy just the one. The above says boys. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8915967 United States 12/23/2012 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The oddest thing about this story is the car. I think most of you are crazy lunatics. However, I must admit, the car has me a bit baffled. On another note. Is it not possible that Adam was killed by someone else within the school. Perhaps the police or others. Perhaps he was killed in a fit of rage? Someone couldn't help themselves and killed him even though they could have taken him down in other ways? In midst of what just happened who could blame an officer from killing the young man. There was so much anger. Maybe the cover-up is concerning how Adam died. Or why he died. Strange story. Strange interviews from some of the local people. They make strange characters on tv. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24931009 United States 12/23/2012 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.courant.com] Quoting: Jonny Blaze "He killed himself as police entered the building." Exactly at the time where 'end the life of Adam' occurs on the scanner. "He then drove to the school, getting there about 9:30 a.m." Makes no mention of who's car he drove. "and the fact that unfired bullets from Lanza's rifle were found on the ground" unfired bullets found in Soto's classroom. Please stop with the "end the life of adam" bit. Many clear minded and articulate posters spent hours yesterday analyzing that audio, and showed beyond a shadow of a doubt that was NOT what was said. Not to mention, that plenty of astute minds gave examples of why that never, in a million years, would have been a code signal. I heard "end the life of Adam" plain as day the first, second, and...time I listened to it. I agree it's doubtful this was carried out by experienced operators as they would definitely have other comm's but the scanner feed sounded to me like someone talking to another close by not realizing he was miked. Either TPTB are getting sloppy with their domestic deployments (they are in other areas) or this one just went south (which happens, especially in highly populated areas with good civvy communications) but no question in my mind the company line does not match the data that has been aggregated here in the alternate media. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29787375 United States 12/23/2012 02:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That was a semi-auto shotgun, not an AR, AR's do not have a side charging handle, they would have been pulling at the back of the weapon if it were a AR/M14/M4..I am a certified Armorer for the M16/M4/AR-15 and that WAS NOT an AR type weapon. Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR I could see it was a shotgun, and I don't know shit about guns. YOU ARE AN IDIOT....FUCK YOU |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28593910 United States 12/23/2012 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That was a semi-auto shotgun, not an AR, AR's do not have a side charging handle, they would have been pulling at the back of the weapon if it were a AR/M14/M4..I am a certified Armorer for the M16/M4/AR-15 and that WAS NOT an AR type weapon. Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR I could see it was a shotgun, and I don't know shit about guns. YOU ARE AN IDIOT....FUCK YOU You are a bully makes me wonder what caused this shit in the first place.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12502173 United States 12/23/2012 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Somebody is in trouble: "Connecticut State Police said the lone gunman, identified as 20-year-old Adam Lanza, forced his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown and killed 26 people, including 20 children Friday morning." [link to www.11alive.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12502173 United States 12/23/2012 03:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Somebody is in trouble: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12502173 "Connecticut State Police said the lone gunman, identified as 20-year-old Adam Lanza, forced his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown and killed 26 people, including 20 children Friday morning." [link to www.11alive.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18359766 United States 12/23/2012 03:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christopher Rodia doesn't own the car with the license plate 872-YEO. That may or may not be Adam Lanza's mother's car, or his car, or some other person's car. But it's not Rodia's. I am from Connecticut. I have listened to the audio scanner stream that is used here, and I know that the guy who hosts this particular feed is monitoring several frequencies, including state police, Greenwich CT, New Canaan CT and Darien CT police. The problem with this Youtube video is that it pieced together several audio feeds. It's not an actual tape of the radios being used at the school and only those radios. There is a lot going on, including calls unrelated to the shooting. Right before this, an EMS call goes out for a person with neck pain. You have to listen a few minutes before the Christopher Rodia name is played. A man with the same voice who calls out the Rodia info says at 10:00:33 a.m. (25:02 in Youtube video) "33 to Headquarters, motor vehicle stop." He comes back on the radio at 10:01:12 a.m. (25:42 in Youtube video), in between shooting-related calls about getting "buses" aka ambulances, he says "722-ZHA, radar," meaning that the MV stop was by radar of a car with that plate. He is then not heard from for a few minutes. Presumably this is when he is walking to the car and speaking to the driver. At 10:06:13 a.m. (30:43) he's back, "33 to headquarters. Run the operator." Then it is hard to hear because of the encrypted radio transmissions the Newtown police are using. The feed of the Newtown police was edited together with the other feed, which is called "Fairfield County Police, Fire, and EMS" in Radioreference. It's easier to hear what the officer making the traffic stop is saying if you listen to just the "Fairfield County Police, Fire and EMS" feed archive, which can be found in Radioreference's archives. He says "Run the operator. He has a Florida license and out of Connecticut as well. Name is Rodia R-O-D-I-A, Christopher A. Date of Birth is August 6, 69." Dispatcher responds "10-4." So, the cop has the operator's driver's license. He's not running the plate. He wants the dispatcher to run the name through their computers to check for warrants, etc. What happens during the rest of the traffic stop isn't heard on the radio. My assumption, based on listening to radio calls on this feed in the past, is he was stopped in one of the towns monitored on this feed, like New Canaan, Darien or Greenwich. That is because, as you can here at times on the tape, state cops call out their number and then "to G" or to "A" which is the barracks they are based out of. This cop calls the traffic stop into "headquarters." So, my conclusion is Christopher Rodia, a sketchy guy with sketchy criminal connections, just happened to be stopped at the same time of the shooting in a nearby town, and at the same time a cop at the scene ran the plate of the car Lanza or whoever used to get to the scene and left a shotgun in. If you weren't listening to a scanner feed archive and were instead listening to the actual radios being used at the scene, you wouldn't have made the connection between Rodia and the school, so there's no reason for him to be investigated, because both he and his car weren't there. Take this as you will, but this satisfied for me what I agree was a very interesting/possibly sketchy situation with the car. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28593910 United States 12/23/2012 03:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Somebody is in trouble: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12502173 "Connecticut State Police said the lone gunman, identified as 20-year-old Adam Lanza, forced his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown and killed 26 people, including 20 children Friday morning." [link to www.11alive.com] lol posted this comment on wrong thread... I'm sorry but I don't get it... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12502173 United States 12/23/2012 03:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com] Published on Dec 14, 2012 Law enforcement has individual in custody, possible second shooter. [link to www.11alive.com] 11:52 PM, Dec 15, 2012 "Connecticut State Police said the LONE gunman, identified as 20-year-old Adam Lanza, forced his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown and killed 26 people, including 20 children Friday morning." At the very least it exposes the media. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28593910 United States 12/23/2012 03:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12502173 Published on Dec 14, 2012 Law enforcement has individual in custody, possible second shooter. [link to www.11alive.com] 11:52 PM, Dec 15, 2012 "Connecticut State Police said the LONE gunman, identified as 20-year-old Adam Lanza, forced his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown and killed 26 people, including 20 children Friday morning." At the very least it exposes the media. I still don't get it? |
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