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WHERE IS JUDAH AND ISRAEL AND PROVE THIS HAPPENED TO ANY OTHER NATION

 
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king david! a judean! was a red head with blue eyes! he was no indian.
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Chapter and Verse detailing the 'red head with blue eyes' so as to be found within the Book itself, and not just wild assertions -- Please? Some might want that link.
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DEUT CHP:28
48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

cvgbfd

Prove to me then that the europeans were taken on ships with chains on their necks to a land of bondage for a second time?

Did this happen to the chinese or the arabs or any other nations?



JOEL CHP3
3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.


DEUT CHP 28
And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I was just wandering where natives came from, as I am one two.

I had experienced an Awakening last year, and went to some psychic fair, to get some answers.

The psychic told me my soul was old, and all. Well on my way out, I picked up a Edward Cayce report, in it said that my strongest male figure was that in the Canaan/Philistine era, where I was some religious figure.

With my Kundalini activated, and me reaching my Brow chakra(3rd eye) but not totally open yet. I am having vivid dreams, of being in some sort of an ancient Monastery.

Every one was wearing white robes. I remember this man in a white rob, riding in a chariot riding in water, and behind him were a bunch of people who were also wearing white robes, holding candle while walking in water. It truly was a site to see, like a script of a movie.

I don't consider myself as religious, but more spiritual. Since I know lots about spirituality and how it works, I'm having an urge to learn the religious side.

What I dislike about the region, is that God hates, in which he doesn't, or Jesus threatening people to worship him as their savior, or else go to hell. Jesus was a great Spiritual man, that would never say such things.

I just wonder why The Indigenous people are left out of the bible. If you ask me, I believe that we must be mentioned in the bible somewhere, or they are hiding some parts for their own gain.

The people who are in charge of the world we live in, are scared of people growing spiritually.
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The reality is that the whole of the North American continent isn't mentioned in the Bible. I believe we have clues when the 'islands' are spoken of and the 'west'. They speak of the west and islands of their time, but when being mentioned in prophecy, I think they could point to the U.S. There are many peoples and countries who aren't mentioned, it doesn't mean this or that. God gives us the information we NEED to know and the players we need to watch.

All in all, I believe we came across the Bearing Strait and are descended from the Asians. I have no problem with that. It is the most logical progression of the path to the New World, imo. But, again, you can believe as you choose.
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I concur with the Asian thing but I'm thinking deeper. Like Humans evolved in Africa, before they started to migrate.

Why can't the 10 lost tribes represent the different races, of the world. Like Greeks, Scots, Asians, Indigenous people, etc

When Israelites unite, I believe all races unite, as well as religions. In spirituality we are all one, all connected, and I think that is what Gods plan is, for his children Of Israel to become as one nation.

Maybe it's my pipe dream, but my dream from my heart.
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I don't believe it is a pipe dream. I agree, as that is the 'great mystery', in that all gentiles have now the same opportunity and have been 'grafted in'. During the Millennium, all peoples will live in harmony under the reign of our King, Jesus Christ and all will kneel before Him, in one spirit, one faith. I think the clue is in how the world reacts to the Jews in general. God told us in detail the woes He would send upon them for their disobedience, as He spread them out into the world. By this standard, who would WANT to represent this lost tribe of peoples? I see a double standard in that the world hates them and yet some wish they were them. Very confusing. The gist is that the world hates that their own particular race, weren't the special people of God. But, the reality is that He had to pick a bloodline though which He would send His Son; it could have been any of them, but the birth could only come through one and it happened to be theirs. If it were another race they too would be envied, if this is what we shall call it or hated as is the majority of the feelings toward them.

It seems that in the big picture, God's children, Israel are hated just as His gentile children are/will be hated...I think it just boils down to the fact that, as we're told, the majority of the world will not acknowledge God, His Son, His Holy Spirit in any fashion. It has been written and so it has come to pass. If one believes in God's Holy Word, then it is all there in black and white. But, adhere to its warnings in 'testing the spirits' and on the look out for 'false prophets', even those who claim to be of God. It's easy to throw around some scripture to sound holy, but even Satan knows the scriptures, uses them and appears as an 'angel of light'.

1 Timothy 4:1
4 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.


Acts 20:29-32
29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. 31 So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.


2 Peter 2:1-3
2 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.


Romans 16:17-18
17 I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.


Matthew 7:15-20
15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30654485


I love Jesus, but we are all sons of God. I had a vision of me reaching down in the underworld, to kill my lower being.

As I was reaching down, my hands started to radiate white light, I suddenly felt this energy from the pit of my stomach come up to my heart, that made me fell sadness, guilt, remorse.

My Hand seemed like it was Gods hand saving me from the pits of the underworld. I have never cried so hard in my life, knowing I wanted to slay that demon. I suddenly feel down on my knees and begged for forgiveness.

I was taught a valuable lesson. I am sure my Angel(higher self) wouldn't look down at me as I did to that demon.

This I learned that we save our selves, as God, Mother, and the Son(higher Self) lives within us.

Sorry to go off topic, but what you said about false prophets, exists in every man made thing, that includes the bible, to keep us off track of the real path, which is being the true self.
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These people are very slick they know exactly what it means but they are aware that there are not learned people reading and wanting to understand the thread so they create diversions.hf
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Many times it's the 'little words' that hold the most TRUTH in a passage...if people skim right over them, the relevance of the verse is LOST!

Gen 3:1 ¶ Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.
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exactly the pastors have been very skilled in passing over the key words therefore leading the floock down ignorant street.This is deliberate by the way , it is taught in seminary
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Were Adam and Eve to be considered as just some more "beasts of the field"?

Personally I think you need to back track all the way to Genesis 1:1 and try a different 'path', somewhere you have zigged when perhaps you should have zagged.

And if you are talking about Key-Words.. yes, those in seminary deal with Key-Words as well. In fact many of the seminaries apply the principles of the Constructionalist approach to the interpretation of the Texts, first, rather than the Originalist approach to Textual interpretation.

(2Ti 2:14 KJV) Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.

(2Ti 2:15 KJV) Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

(2Ti 2:16 KJV) But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

(2Ti 2:17 KJV) And their word will eat as doth a canker...
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Gen 3:1 ¶ Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.
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bump...for the love of the truth!
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clappa
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In the Hebrew Canon of the Jews, of the Tanach, in the Masoretic Hebrew versions, there are 39,677 or more individual word as a vocabulary used.

Strong's Hebrew to English's Dictionary/Lexicon (definitions) contains only 8,674 words in that Dictionary/Lexicon.

Many lay-teachers and lay-researchers of the Scriptures of the Hebrew Language Old Testament (the Tanach) are only using about 21% of the entire vocabulary in their efforts to understand the Hebrew Text. For this reason only (and there are many other reasons for errors) many assertions and allegations are made by people who do not use a dictionary/lexicon Hebrew to English, assertions that are totally unwarranted. Yes, by all mean.. Seek the Truth... seek it much harder than merely relying on a vocabulary of only 21% of the vocabulary of the Texts.

Yeah, For the Love of the Truth, seek and you shall find.
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Waterman

You are basically correct as the ten northern tribes(gentiles) will set their ten chairs Around the gates of Jerusalem and it seems with NATO that this is happening. Read Jeremiah.

Moreover as Satan hates the Jews I believe that it is intended that by fulfilling whAt the bible says about the creation of Israel and bringing them back 'home' that they have and are set up for destruction by the very same ten tribes that waged war on them before.

I further think that when Jesus warns us most particularly about those Jews who are NOT(Jews) that He is telling us that is they who Are behind this, to make Jews look bad and to bring war against them.

There is nothing new under the sun, nothing, it is the same old story and the same old players acting out their roles.
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And so it goes from generation to the next generation as the next generation alway has to learn anew what their parent's generation, and the grand parents' generation and their far distance ancestors' generations had to learn. And so the say lessons and trials and challenges await every single new generation. No new thing under the Sun... just people being, learning to see, learning to use their hands, learning to crawl, to walk, to run, to read, to write, to speak.

This should be no great Mystery.
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Sorry to disappoint you Neim, but no matter how many pictures of Indians and black people you post, you'll never be Jewish !

You can bleach your skin like Michael Jackson and paint your hair red to look like David and that still wouldn't make you Jewish !

I dunno what your agenda is, but it sure isn't helping Israel's cause that's for sure !
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Yeah right! God created one race to be supreme over the other. Is this what the bible teaches you? No wonder the world is in such chaos. God created everyone equally, whether you like it or not. Get your head out of the knot, and see the truth for once.
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Sorry to disappoint you Neim, but no matter how many pictures of Indians and black people you post, you'll never be Jewish !

You can bleach your skin like Michael Jackson and paint your hair red to look like David and that still wouldn't make you Jewish !

I dunno what your agenda is, but it sure isn't helping Israel's cause that's for sure !
 Quoting: subzero86


My advice to you is not to read these threads you are a go between causing confusiion and chaos.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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What I see in this thread is a continuation of the NATIONS conspiring to make Israel no more a memory. Who are you all fooling? Are you trying to fool GOD? Why do you give a possibility of everyone being Israel EXCEPT for the Negroes?

OP, the answer to your question is obviously NO ONE has gone through those things besides those who suffered in the trans-Atlantic slave trade and throughout their time in those places they were dispersed to.

To see so many people continually reach and grasp for straws in an attempt to deny Israel their identity only serve to reinforce the truth of the Words spoken in Leviticus and Deuteronomy.
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What I see in this thread is a continuation of the NATIONS conspiring to make Israel no more a memory. Who are you all fooling? Are you trying to fool GOD? Why do you give a possibility of everyone being Israel EXCEPT for the Negroes?

OP, the answer to your question is obviously NO ONE has gone through those things besides those who suffered in the trans-Atlantic slave trade and throughout their time in those places they were dispersed to.

To see so many people continually reach and grasp for straws in an attempt to deny Israel their identity only serve to reinforce the truth of the Words spoken in Leviticus and Deuteronomy.
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THE QUESTION IS THIS CAN YOU PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THESE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE AND ALSO DID THIS HAPPEN TO THE EUROPEAN FAKE JEWS GOING ON SHIPS WITH CHAINS ON THEIR NECK AN SOLD AS SLAVES?

DEUT CHP:28
48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

cvgbfd

Prove to me then that the europeans were taken on ships with chains on their necks to a land of bondage for a second time?

Did this happen to the chinese or the arabs or any other nations?



JOEL CHP3
3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.


DEUT CHP 28
And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Waterman

You are basically correct as the ten northern tribes(gentiles) will set their ten chairs Around the gates of Jerusalem and it seems with NATO that this is happening. Read Jeremiah.

Moreover as Satan hates the Jews I believe that it is intended that by fulfilling whAt the bible says about the creation of Israel and bringing them back 'home' that they have and are set up for destruction by the very same ten tribes that waged war on them before.

I further think that when Jesus warns us most particularly about those Jews who are NOT(Jews) that He is telling us that is they who Are behind this, to make Jews look bad and to bring war against them.

There is nothing new under the sun, nothing, it is the same old story and the same old players acting out their roles.
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heresy ? what are you saying the ten tribes are gentiles? where on earth did you get that nonsense from? did you hit a bong?
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Genesis Ten gives the founding of what some call the 71 Nations of Mankind down to three or four or more generations after the Flood of Noah.

All of these 71 Nations are Gentiles. Even Eber (Hebrew) was a Gentile of the Nations. As was even Abraham. Abraham was a Gentile in that sense, even so was Issac a Gentile (in that sense). For that matter even was Jacob until he was chosen to begin a Nation that was cut out from among all the Nations to a very particular mission.. Until then even Jacob as a Gentile.

Was Jacob/Israel an Israelite? Yes, the founder of the Israelites. Was Jacob/Israel a "Jew".. prehaps, but he was not of the Tribe of Judah, but quite the other way around, Judah was of Jacob/Israel.

Actually the Children of Israel (Jacob/Israel's descendants) were tasked to be an example of every thing that is Good about Mankind and every thing that was Evil about Mankind, and to show the Righteousness of God, in judging all Mankind to be students and disciples of Lawlessness and worthy of having a Death Sentence executed upon all Mankind. This is what 'the Jews' were Chosen to be and the purpose they were chosen for.

The Twelve Tribes (and even that 13th one, the Tribe of Levi) were in the Scriptures cut out from among the rest of the 71 Founded Nations, and reckoned then by God to not be of 'the Nations', (which are commonly in the Scriptures) called "Gentiles". Therefore the so called Lost Ten Tribes of Israel are not to be reckoned as of the Nations, i.e., of the Gentiles. Even though they be mixed in with them in living places. The question of biological mixing, in the genetics sense is another topic. And I have shown how it is that this may well be a totally untraceable series of events. Stop the Pretensions, only God knows Who is Who in This day and time.
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Sorry to disappoint you Neim, but no matter how many pictures of Indians and black people you post, you'll never be Jewish !

You can bleach your skin like Michael Jackson and paint your hair red to look like David and that still wouldn't make you Jewish !

I dunno what your agenda is, but it sure isn't helping Israel's cause that's for sure !
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My advice to you is not to read these threads you are a go between causing confusiion and chaos.
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If my heart causes confusion, then how can I be me. To think Jews are all the same color is ridiculous. It's all test anyway by God, by loving the person from within and not by color. Seems like a lot of people are failing to realize that. We are all represented by God.

Maybe you are right, I voiced my opinion, and I shall go!
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Those ten tribes are not Jewiszh, only Benjamin and Judah with Levi being the priest line are. The rest, not being Jewish, are gentiles.
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This assertion has been made over and over, but one should not be so quick to drink of it and swallow it down.

It takes considerable effort and research and time to track out from the English "Jews" to the earlier Greek, Old Latin, Aramaic, and Hebrew language ancient texts to even begin a proper study of this issue.

People can pontificate all they wish.

The Student is tasked to do his own work.
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Waterman

You are basically correct as the ten northern tribes(gentiles) will set their ten chairs Around the gates of Jerusalem and it seems with NATO that this is happening. Read Jeremiah.

Moreover as Satan hates the Jews I believe that it is intended that by fulfilling whAt the bible says about the creation of Israel and bringing them back 'home' that they have and are set up for destruction by the very same ten tribes that waged war on them before.

I further think that when Jesus warns us most particularly about those Jews who are NOT(Jews) that He is telling us that is they who Are behind this, to make Jews look bad and to bring war against them.

There is nothing new under the sun, nothing, it is the same old story and the same old players acting out their roles.
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heresy ? what are you saying the ten tribes are gentiles? where on earth did you get that nonsense from? did you hit a bong?
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Genesis Ten gives the founding of what some call the 71 Nations of Mankind down to three or four or more generations after the Flood of Noah.

All of these 71 Nations are Gentiles. Even Eber (Hebrew) was a Gentile of the Nations. As was even Abraham. Abraham was a Gentile in that sense, even so was Issac a Gentile (in that sense). For that matter even was Jacob until he was chosen to begin a Nation that was cut out from among all the Nations to a very particular mission.. Until then even Jacob as a Gentile.

Was Jacob/Israel an Israelite? Yes, the founder of the Israelites. Was Jacob/Israel a "Jew".. prehaps, but he was not of the Tribe of Judah, but quite the other way around, Judah was of Jacob/Israel.

Actually the Children of Israel (Jacob/Israel's descendants) were tasked to be an example of every thing that is Good about Mankind and every thing that was Evil about Mankind, and to show the Righteousness of God, in judging all Mankind to be students and disciples of Lawlessness and worthy of having a Death Sentence executed upon all Mankind. This is what 'the Jews' were Chosen to be and the purpose they were chosen for.

The Twelve Tribes (and even that 13th one, the Tribe of Levi) were in the Scriptures cut out from among the rest of the 71 Founded Nations, and reckoned then by God to not be of 'the Nations', (which are commonly in the Scriptures) called "Gentiles". Therefore the so called Lost Ten Tribes of Israel are not to be reckoned as of the Nations, i.e., of the Gentiles. Even though they be mixed in with them in living places. The question of biological mixing, in the genetics sense is another topic. And I have shown how it is that this may well be a totally untraceable series of events. Stop the Pretensions, only God knows Who is Who in This day and time.
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THE QUESTION IS THIS CAN YOU PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THESE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE AND ALSO DID THIS HAPPEN TO THE EUROPEAN FAKE JEWS GOING ON SHIPS WITH CHAINS ON THEIR NECK AN SOLD AS SLAVES?

DEUT CHP:28
48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

cvgbfd

Prove to me then that the europeans were taken on ships with chains on their necks to a land of bondage for a second time?

Did this happen to the chinese or the arabs or any other nations?



JOEL CHP3
3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.


DEUT CHP 28
And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Also, I'd like to state that there is nothing in the New Testament that you cannot learn in the Old Testament. Why so many you profess your "love" for Jesus I'll never understand. I suppose it's due to a lack of historical knowledge. Israel's GOD was sovereign. There was NO ONE beside Him. NO ONE behind Him. NO ONE in front of HIM. And NO ONE behind him.

There is never a need to ever quote anything from the New Testament. That is NOT the book of Israel. How can people love Jesus yet hate the Most High, the GOD that brought Israel out of bondage and established HIMSELF as Israel's GOD?

Stop trying to convince these heathens of who you are. Instead, why don't we find a way to enlighten Israel on who they are and on who their GOD is. HE is waiting for us to return to him. Stop wasting time on those who hate but US and THE MOST HIGH.
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Those ten tribes are not Jewiszh, only Benjamin and Judah with Levi being the priest line are. The rest, not being Jewish, are gentiles.
 Quoting: Mickeyblue 9806228


This assertion has been made over and over, but one should not be so quick to drink of it and swallow it down.

It takes considerable effort and research and time to track out from the English "Jews" to the earlier Greek, Old Latin, Aramaic, and Hebrew language ancient texts to even begin a proper study of this issue.

People can pontificate all they wish.

The Student is tasked to do his own work.
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THE QUESTION IS THIS CAN YOU PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THESE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE AND ALSO DID THIS HAPPEN TO THE EUROPEAN FAKE JEWS GOING ON SHIPS WITH CHAINS ON THEIR NECK AN SOLD AS SLAVES?

DEUT CHP:28
48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

cvgbfd

Prove to me then that the europeans were taken on ships with chains on their necks to a land of bondage for a second time?

Did this happen to the chinese or the arabs or any other nations?



JOEL CHP3
3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.


DEUT CHP 28
And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Those ten tribes are not Jewiszh, only Benjamin and Judah with Levi being the priest line are. The rest, not being Jewish, are gentiles.
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1Ki 11:31 And he said to Jeroboam, Take thee ten pieces: for thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, Behold, I will rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and will give ten tribes to thee:


1Ki 11:32 (But he shall have one tribe for my servant David's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake, the city which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel:)
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1Ki 11:31 And he said to Jeroboam, Take thee ten pieces: for thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, Behold, I will rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and will give ten tribes to thee:

In itself this verse no way actually identifies which of the 12 (or 13) Tribes of Israel as to which of these are these ten tribes. In fact you don't even have any indication which Ten Tribes of all Mankind's Tribes this verse in itself is referring to. You do not find out it is pertaining to the Tribes of Israel until you get to the next verse.

1Ki 11:32 (But he shall have one tribe for my servant David's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake, the city which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel:)

Likewise in this verse, in itself it does not identify in this verse which of all the Tribes of Israel is being referred to. If you think this verse is saying, "The Tribe of Judah" you cannot prove it from this verse itself. You must read on to find the answer to this specific question. Stop assuming until you have read the who contextual work... and you many find you have to take in a wider and wider even more remote context as well to answer that very specific question.

Of course, I 'trust' that you have done just that.

Hard to do all this stuff in a forum.
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The reality is that the whole of the North American continent isn't mentioned in the Bible. I believe we have clues when the 'islands' are spoken of and the 'west'. They speak of the west and islands of their time, but when being mentioned in prophecy, I think they could point to the U.S. There are many peoples and countries who aren't mentioned, it doesn't mean this or that. God gives us the information we NEED to know and the players we need to watch.

All in all, I believe we came across the Bearing Strait and are descended from the Asians. I have no problem with that. It is the most logical progression of the path to the New World, imo. But, again, you can believe as you choose.
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I concur with the Asian thing but I'm thinking deeper. Like Humans evolved in Africa, before they started to migrate.

Why can't the 10 lost tribes represent the different races, of the world. Like Greeks, Scots, Asians, Indigenous people, etc

When Israelites unite, I believe all races unite, as well as religions. In spirituality we are all one, all connected, and I think that is what Gods plan is, for his children Of Israel to become as one nation.

Maybe it's my pipe dream, but my dream from my heart.
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I don't believe it is a pipe dream. I agree, as that is the 'great mystery', in that all gentiles have now the same opportunity and have been 'grafted in'. During the Millennium, all peoples will live in harmony under the reign of our King, Jesus Christ and all will kneel before Him, in one spirit, one faith. I think the clue is in how the world reacts to the Jews in general. God told us in detail the woes He would send upon them for their disobedience, as He spread them out into the world. By this standard, who would WANT to represent this lost tribe of peoples? I see a double standard in that the world hates them and yet some wish they were them. Very confusing. The gist is that the world hates that their own particular race, weren't the special people of God. But, the reality is that He had to pick a bloodline though which He would send His Son; it could have been any of them, but the birth could only come through one and it happened to be theirs. If it were another race they too would be envied, if this is what we shall call it or hated as is the majority of the feelings toward them.

It seems that in the big picture, God's children, Israel are hated just as His gentile children are/will be hated...I think it just boils down to the fact that, as we're told, the majority of the world will not acknowledge God, His Son, His Holy Spirit in any fashion. It has been written and so it has come to pass. If one believes in God's Holy Word, then it is all there in black and white. But, adhere to its warnings in 'testing the spirits' and on the look out for 'false prophets', even those who claim to be of God. It's easy to throw around some scripture to sound holy, but even Satan knows the scriptures, uses them and appears as an 'angel of light'.

1 Timothy 4:1
4 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.


Acts 20:29-32
29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. 31 So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.


2 Peter 2:1-3
2 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.


Romans 16:17-18
17 I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.


Matthew 7:15-20
15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
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I love Jesus, but we are all sons of God. I had a vision of me reaching down in the underworld, to kill my lower being.

As I was reaching down, my hands started to radiate white light, I suddenly felt this energy from the pit of my stomach come up to my heart, that made me fell sadness, guilt, remorse.

My Hand seemed like it was Gods hand saving me from the pits of the underworld. I have never cried so hard in my life, knowing I wanted to slay that demon. I suddenly feel down on my knees and begged for forgiveness.

I was taught a valuable lesson. I am sure my Angel(higher self) wouldn't look down at me as I did to that demon.

This I learned that we save our selves, as God, Mother, and the Son(higher Self) lives within us.

Sorry to go off topic, but what you said about false prophets, exists in every man made thing, that includes the bible, to keep us off track of the real path, which is being the true self.
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If this demon were real, then the God in heaven is also real. If this be true, then God's Word would not lie. You do not have to take my word, or the word of none other than God, Himself. This is why we are told to 'test it' ourselves. Only God can reveal Himself and His truth, if you truly seek it...but, if you are already depending on yourself, then you have already decided against Him and the purpose of His son, Jesus Christ...He died in vain for you, then...and this is the sin that cannot be forgiven. If one cannot accept, nor believe, then His blood is not real to you and cannot cover your sins. You must atone for them yourself, and if you think that you can, then you are free to live your life in this way. I've said what I can, the rest is up to God. Bless you, brother/sister and may peace and love cover you this holiday season. That and OP is going to spank us both. spank
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There is 4 main players in the end times the 2 witnesses and the the anti-christ and false prophet. The 2 witnesses will have Elijah as one of them which is the fore-runner and the antichrist has the false prophet as his for-runner.

The anit-christ and false prophet will have 10 kings(10 kingdoms) with them they are trying to get the 2 tribes that make up Israel right now Judah and Benjamin and will allow the temple to be rebuilt to get them to join with them

The 2 witnesses will have the 10 lost tribes and will be trying to get the 2 tribes of Israel (Judah and benjamin) that make up Israel right now to join them so that all the tribes can be joined again as they were in the times of David

The 4 leaders, 2 good side, 2 bad side, are both trying to get Israel to join with the 10 kingdoms or tribes that they have. It is like a mission to see who can get the 12 together first.

Ezekiel 37 shows the good side wins.
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Leave the Lead actor out of the Play, Jesus Christ? He IS the Main Character. Did you forget about Him?
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There is 4 main players in the end times the 2 witnesses and the the anti-christ and false prophet. The 2 witnesses will have Elijah as one of them which is the fore-runner and the antichrist has the false prophet as his for-runner.

The anit-christ and false prophet will have 10 kings(10 kingdoms) with them they are trying to get the 2 tribes that make up Israel right now Judah and Benjamin and will allow the temple to be rebuilt to get them to join with them

The 2 witnesses will have the 10 lost tribes and will be trying to get the 2 tribes of Israel (Judah and benjamin) that make up Israel right now to join them so that all the tribes can be joined again as they were in the times of David

The 4 leaders, 2 good side, 2 bad side, are both trying to get Israel to join with the 10 kingdoms or tribes that they have. It is like a mission to see who can get the 12 together first.

Ezekiel 37 shows the good side wins.
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Leave the Lead actor out of the Play, Jesus Christ? He IS the Main Character. Did you forget about Him?
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THE QUESTION IS THIS CAN YOU PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THESE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE AND ALSO DID THIS HAPPEN TO THE EUROPEAN FAKE JEWS GOING ON SHIPS WITH CHAINS ON THEIR NECK AN SOLD AS SLAVES?

DEUT CHP:28
48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

cvgbfd

Prove to me then that the europeans were taken on ships with chains on their necks to a land of bondage for a second time?

Did this happen to the chinese or the arabs or any other nations?



JOEL CHP3
3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.


DEUT CHP 28
And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Stop pushing that Afrocentric agenda of yours, it's not working !
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I think I am missing OPs point here and seems he is calling someone out. Since I am way out in left field, I will leave you guys to it. Not that it truly matters, but OP is defending an idea that I still don't have a clue. I see it has something to do with the thread where the DNA stated it was European and not African. Is this the point? I thought it was about North American Natives at first. Or is it?


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There is 4 main players in the end times the 2 witnesses and the the anti-christ and false prophet. The 2 witnesses will have Elijah as one of them which is the fore-runner and the antichrist has the false prophet as his for-runner.

The anit-christ and false prophet will have 10 kings(10 kingdoms) with them they are trying to get the 2 tribes that make up Israel right now Judah and Benjamin and will allow the temple to be rebuilt to get them to join with them

The 2 witnesses will have the 10 lost tribes and will be trying to get the 2 tribes of Israel (Judah and benjamin) that make up Israel right now to join them so that all the tribes can be joined again as they were in the times of David

The 4 leaders, 2 good side, 2 bad side, are both trying to get Israel to join with the 10 kingdoms or tribes that they have. It is like a mission to see who can get the 12 together first.

Ezekiel 37 shows the good side wins.
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Leave the Lead actor out of the Play, Jesus Christ? He IS the Main Character. Did you forget about Him?
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THE QUESTION IS THIS CAN YOU PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THESE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE AND ALSO DID THIS HAPPEN TO THE EUROPEAN FAKE JEWS GOING ON SHIPS WITH CHAINS ON THEIR NECK AN SOLD AS SLAVES?

DEUT CHP:28
48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

:cvgbfd:

Prove to me then that the europeans were taken on ships with chains on their necks to a land of bondage for a second time?

Did this happen to the chinese or the arabs or any other nations?



JOEL CHP3
3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.


DEUT CHP 28
And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
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Ok, OP, I see you keep posing this question. Tell me this; now that you know you are Israel, what are you going to do next? Relish in your pride of being able to tell Edom that you are better than them? Is your exchange with Edomites going to bring you peace of mind?

Your heart is in the wrong place, brother.
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Arabs did a huge slave trade and it went on much longer than the white mans and is still going on.

Wake up and stop being so small minded.



they didn't only enslave blacks either!
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Deuteronomy 28:64-68

64 Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your fathers have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the Lord will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, “If only it were evening!” and in the evening, “If only it were morning!”—because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The Lord will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.

The 'again', is not referring to ships, but to the enslavement in Egypt. The scripture could easily read:

The Lord will send you back, [this time], in ships to Egypt.

This is only logical where in verse 64 we are told the Lord has scattered them 'among all nations', 'from one end of the earth to the other'.

The 'journey [God] said 'you should never make again', refers to



Deuteronomy 17:16

16 The king, moreover, must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself or make the people return to Egypt to get more of them, for the Lord has told you, “You are not to go back that way again.”

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Another operative part of Deu 28:68 is the verb (in this translation), that verb, "should never".. the verb is not, "would never", only "should not". You should not eat that apple pie.. has a meaning different from "you would not eat that apple pie". Also notice it is 'should never' and not "shall never".

This give focus and more meaning and support then to Deu 28:64.. in that Egypt could be (could) one of the nations they are scattered into as one of the many "all nations" of that verse.
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There is 4 main players in the end times the 2 witnesses and the the anti-christ and false prophet. The 2 witnesses will have Elijah as one of them which is the fore-runner and the antichrist has the false prophet as his for-runner.

The anit-christ and false prophet will have 10 kings(10 kingdoms) with them they are trying to get the 2 tribes that make up Israel right now Judah and Benjamin and will allow the temple to be rebuilt to get them to join with them

The 2 witnesses will have the 10 lost tribes and will be trying to get the 2 tribes of Israel (Judah and benjamin) that make up Israel right now to join them so that all the tribes can be joined again as they were in the times of David

The 4 leaders, 2 good side, 2 bad side, are both trying to get Israel to join with the 10 kingdoms or tribes that they have. It is like a mission to see who can get the 12 together first.

Ezekiel 37 shows the good side wins.
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Leave the Lead actor out of the Play, Jesus Christ? He IS the Main Character. Did you forget about Him?
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Jesus isn't on earth til the end of the 7 year trib silly rabbit
Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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Arabs did a huge slave trade and it went on much longer than the white mans and is still going on.

Wake up and stop being so small minded.



they didn't only enslave blacks either!
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So what? You only post that so to make yourselves feel less guilty. Why try to convince us? You don't owe US the apology. Your debt is with GOD.

Will you tell this to GOD when you stand before HIM?
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Arabs did a huge slave trade and it went on much longer than the white mans and is still going on.

Wake up and stop being so small minded.



they didn't only enslave blacks either!
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AGREED! BUT LOOK THEY ARE BOTH PARTIED TO THE CRIME

3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites;

1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Around the world all peoples have been dragged off from their lands on ships and taken to other lands in chains.

This includes whites who were stolen for the coastlines around Europe by Muslims.

Whites were also dragged onto ships and forced to come to the US and Australia as slaves.

The difference is most don't carry on crying like a baby about it over a hundred years later!
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Around the world all peoples have been dragged off from their lands on ships and taken to other lands in chains.

This includes whites who were stolen for the coastlines around Europe by Muslims.

Whites were also dragged onto ships and forced to come to the US and Australia as slaves.

The difference is most don't carry on crying like a baby about it over a hundred years later!
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OH PLEASE!

show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Also most of those verses related to the Hebrews of the bible.

Who no longer existed by the New Testament. They where well scattered throughout the nations by then.



Hosea 8:8 Israel is swallowed up! Now they are among the nations like discarded pottery. (KJV) Israel is swallowed up: now shall they be among the Gentiles as a vessel in which is no pleasure.) (9) Like a wild donkey looking for a mate, they have gone up to Assyria. The people of Israel have sold themselves--sold themselves to many lovers.

Zechariah 10:9 And I will sow them among the people: and they shall remember me in far countries; and they shall live with their children, and turn again.

Psalms 44:11
You gave us up (Israelites) to be devoured like sheep and have scattered us among the nations.

Lamentations 4:16 The Lord himself has scattered them; he no longer watches over them. The priests are shown no honour, the elders no favour.
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And please prove how Egypt means bondage!
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Perhaps the assertion is made from such usage as:

(Rev 11:8 KJV) And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

However, in Rev. it clearly shows that this usage of Egypt is in a figure of speech.

In the Hebrew Language there are sometimes indicators, grammatical constructions that will indicate that a figure of speech is being used. One should perhaps be tasked if one were defending the assertion that this in Deu is in a figure of speech rather than in the Literal, the Land of Egypt.

So, yeah, I myself would like to see that 'proof' of that assertion taht the Egypt means only Bondage and not the Land and Peoples, and Politics and Religion of the territory of Egypt... as used in that verse in Due.

Perhaps Church Hymns' Lyrics have fogged a mind?

This happens often enough..

As in the Christmas Noels.. the Angels Sing.. when in the verse it says, "said". It is these sorts of subtle things that can fog a mind that is partly in a spiritual slumber.

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