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WHERE IS JUDAH AND ISRAEL AND PROVE THIS HAPPENED TO ANY OTHER NATION

 
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

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Also most of those verses related to the Hebrews of the bible.

Who no longer existed by the New Testament. They where well scattered throughout the nations by then.



Hosea 8:8 Israel is swallowed up! Now they are among the nations like discarded pottery. (KJV) Israel is swallowed up: now shall they be among the Gentiles as a vessel in which is no pleasure.) (9) Like a wild donkey looking for a mate, they have gone up to Assyria. The people of Israel have sold themselves--sold themselves to many lovers.

Zechariah 10:9 And I will sow them among the people: and they shall remember me in far countries; and they shall live with their children, and turn again.

Psalms 44:11
You gave us up (Israelites) to be devoured like sheep and have scattered us among the nations.

Lamentations 4:16 The Lord himself has scattered them; he no longer watches over them. The priests are shown no honour, the elders no favour.
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OH PLEASE! ANOTHER ONE






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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Also most of those verses related to the Hebrews of the bible.

Who no longer existed by the New Testament. They where well scattered throughout the nations by then.



Hosea 8:8 Israel is swallowed up! Now they are among the nations like discarded pottery. (KJV) Israel is swallowed up: now shall they be among the Gentiles as a vessel in which is no pleasure.) (9) Like a wild donkey looking for a mate, they have gone up to Assyria. The people of Israel have sold themselves--sold themselves to many lovers.

Zechariah 10:9 And I will sow them among the people: and they shall remember me in far countries; and they shall live with their children, and turn again.

Psalms 44:11
You gave us up (Israelites) to be devoured like sheep and have scattered us among the nations.

Lamentations 4:16 The Lord himself has scattered them; he no longer watches over them. The priests are shown no honour, the elders no favour.
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THE QUESTION IS THIS CAN YOU PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THESE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE AND ALSO DID THIS HAPPEN TO THE EUROPEAN FAKE JEWS GOING ON SHIPS WITH CHAINS ON THEIR NECK AN SOLD AS SLAVES?

DEUT CHP:28
48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

cvgbfd

Prove to me then that the europeans were taken on ships with chains on their necks to a land of bondage for a second time?

Did this happen to the chinese or the arabs or any other nations?



JOEL CHP3
3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.


DEUT CHP 28
And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Around the world all peoples have been dragged off from their lands on ships and taken to other lands in chains.

This includes whites who were stolen for the coastlines around Europe by Muslims.

Whites were also dragged onto ships and forced to come to the US and Australia as slaves.

The difference is most don't carry on crying like a baby about it over a hundred years later!
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OH PLEASE!

show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
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The Arabs did that to our people!
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Around the world all peoples have been dragged off from their lands on ships and taken to other lands in chains.

This includes whites who were stolen for the coastlines around Europe by Muslims.

Whites were also dragged onto ships and forced to come to the US and Australia as slaves.

The difference is most don't carry on crying like a baby about it over a hundred years later!
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OH PLEASE!

show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


The Arabs did that to our people!
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PROVIDE SCRIPTURES AND HISTORY FACTS
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Also most of those verses related to the Hebrews of the bible.

Who no longer existed by the New Testament. They where well scattered throughout the nations by then.



Hosea 8:8 Israel is swallowed up! Now they are among the nations like discarded pottery. (KJV) Israel is swallowed up: now shall they be among the Gentiles as a vessel in which is no pleasure.) (9) Like a wild donkey looking for a mate, they have gone up to Assyria. The people of Israel have sold themselves--sold themselves to many lovers.

Zechariah 10:9 And I will sow them among the people: and they shall remember me in far countries; and they shall live with their children, and turn again.

Psalms 44:11
You gave us up (Israelites) to be devoured like sheep and have scattered us among the nations.

Lamentations 4:16 The Lord himself has scattered them; he no longer watches over them. The priests are shown no honour, the elders no favour.
.





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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


THE QUESTION IS THIS CAN YOU PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THESE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE AND ALSO DID THIS HAPPEN TO THE EUROPEAN FAKE JEWS GOING ON SHIPS WITH CHAINS ON THEIR NECK AN SOLD AS SLAVES?

DEUT CHP:28
48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

:cvgbfd:

Prove to me then that the europeans were taken on ships with chains on their necks to a land of bondage for a second time?

Did this happen to the chinese or the arabs or any other nations?



JOEL CHP3
3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.


DEUT CHP 28
And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
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What happened to your people happened in recent times, the bible speaks of this having been done over two thousand years ago!
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show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
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No one can...because it NEVER happened! clappa
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show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
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About 1 more year and you will see that being fulfilled from the country that has turned it's back on God. Those curses are not fulfilled yet, they are endtime prophecies that yet need fulfilling. God will take a nation out of a nation just as it says in Deuteronmy 4:34 and at that time you will see auction blocks with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen slaves
Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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Arabs did a huge slave trade and it went on much longer than the white mans and is still going on.

Wake up and stop being so small minded.



they didn't only enslave blacks either!
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thanks! I wanted to argue with the op too, but you have found it first.

For even though I like his threads, he has an agenda!

And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
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Deuteronomy 28:64-68

64 Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your fathers have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the Lord will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, “If only it were evening!” and in the evening, “If only it were morning!”—because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The Lord will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.

The 'again', is not referring to ships, but to the enslavement in Egypt. The scripture could easily read:

The Lord will send you back, [this time], in ships to Egypt.

This is only logical where in verse 64 we are told the Lord has scattered them 'among all nations', 'from one end of the earth to the other'.

The 'journey [God] said 'you should never make again', refers to



Deuteronomy 17:16

16 The king, moreover, must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself or make the people return to Egypt to get more of them, for the Lord has told you, “You are not to go back that way again.”

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I'm not a religious guy, but believe their is truth to it.

Gods of wood? does that mean totem poles?

Thx
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The injunction is given, Do not return to Egypt.

The curse is in implication: "Screw up bad enough, and I will drag you away back into Egypt, and into all the other Nations of Mankind you will go, including Egypt".

Gods of wood? Like curved wooden statues of "Mother Mary, the Mother of God"? Much the same as curved wooden totem poles.

But consider, even a stone engraved with the 'ten commandments' can be used as an Idol.
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Boy Neim you know I look forward to reading your threads and you can back up your contributions with facts that cannot be denied. I got a game for the naysayers. It's based in Deuteronomy 28. Neim this verse is one of the most powerful verses in Deuteronomy 28 that prove that we negroes are the true people of the book... Let the naysayers try their best to deny this. This is the verse.....

DEUTERONOMY 28: 37 AND THOU SHALT BECOME AN ASTONISHMENT, A PROVERB AND A BYWORD! AMONGST ALL NATIONS WHITHER THE LORD SHALL LEAD THEE.

I mean just skim through the archives of GLP and see not only the many threads but the many pages of negativity and blatant racism against black people on this site. I mean you can search for Jews, Muslims, Asians, Mexicans on this site and you can combine them together and you wouldn't get nearly half of the blatant racism than blacks. I mean look at the smilies for instancehidb african after_boom

Now find some derrogotory smilies against the other races mentioned.
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show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
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No one can...because it NEVER happened! clappa
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The Arabs did it, shit for brains!

They did worse even, go wipe your sleeve and grow the fuck up!



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show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
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No one can...because it NEVER happened! clappa
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I am a slavic person.
shut the hell up!
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Deuteronomy 28:64-68

64 Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your fathers have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the Lord will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, “If only it were evening!” and in the evening, “If only it were morning!”—because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The Lord will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.

The 'again', is not referring to ships, but to the enslavement in Egypt. The scripture could easily read:

The Lord will send you back, [this time], in ships to Egypt.

This is only logical where in verse 64 we are told the Lord has scattered them 'among all nations', 'from one end of the earth to the other'.

The 'journey [God] said 'you should never make again', refers to



Deuteronomy 17:16

16 The king, moreover, must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself or make the people return to Egypt to get more of them, for the Lord has told you, “You are not to go back that way again.”

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28827611


I'm not a religious guy, but believe their is truth to it.

Gods of wood? does that mean totem poles?

Thx
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"Totem poles are not religious artifacts, but more like tombstone markers or signs. They are built to tell stories through the totems carved upon them and to honor those who have passed."



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As possibly in the sense in obedience to the commandment, You shall honor your father and mother... but then where in the codice of the Law of Moses is one told more about HOW to honor one's father and mother? Are we to Pray to our ancestors, our dead parents, or even our relatives?

Rhetorical questions for this thread, I guess.
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Around the world all peoples have been dragged off from their lands on ships and taken to other lands in chains.

This includes whites who were stolen for the coastlines around Europe by Muslims.

Whites were also dragged onto ships and forced to come to the US and Australia as slaves.

The difference is most don't carry on crying like a baby about it over a hundred years later!
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OH PLEASE!

show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
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[link to afgen.com]

And Irish slaves were rejected in place of stronger fitter black slaves.
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Another thing, the Bible only prophesied that the House of Israel would lose their identity, not Judah and the World has always know who Judah is.
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Again, I ask, Chapter and Verse of this assertion, please?
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Boy Neim you know I look forward to reading your threads and you can back up your contributions with facts that cannot be denied. I got a game for the naysayers. It's based in Deuteronomy 28. Neim this verse is one of the most powerful verses in Deuteronomy 28 that prove that we negroes are the true people of the book... Let the naysayers try their best to deny this. This is the verse.....

DEUTERONOMY 28: 37 AND THOU SHALT BECOME AN ASTONISHMENT, A PROVERB AND A BYWORD! AMONGST ALL NATIONS WHITHER THE LORD SHALL LEAD THEE.

I mean just skim through the archives of GLP and see not only the many threads but the many pages of negativity and blatant racism against black people on this site. I mean you can search for Jews, Muslims, Asians, Mexicans on this site and you can combine them together and you wouldn't get nearly half of the blatant racism than blacks. I mean look at the smilies for instancehidb african after_boom

Now find some derrogotory smilies against the other races mentioned.
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Yes I was going to include that after I got an answer but no one can answer.The simple questionanad provide facts.they are all looking on youtube
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships,.... Either into a state of hard bondage and slavery, like that their fathers were in, in Egypt; or rather, strictly and literally, should be brought into Egypt again, since it is said to be "with" or "in ships". This does not respect the going of those Jews into Egypt who were left in the land of Judea, after the destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar; for that was against the express command of God, Jeremiah 42:13. There were several movings of them into Egypt after that time; an Heathen historian (w) tells us, that not a few thousands of Jews went into Egypt and Phoenicia, because of the sedition in Syria after the death of Alexander; and where, it seems, in process of time, they became slaves: for we are told by Josephus (x), that 120,000 slaves were set free by Ptolemy Philadelphus; but what is chiefly respected here is their case in the times of the Romans, and by their means. Now when Jerusalem was taken by Titus, those above seventeen years of age were sent by him to the works, or mines, in Egypt, as the same historian relates (y); and after their last overthrow by Adrian many thousands were sold, and what could not be sold were transported into Egypt, and perished by "shipwreck", or famine, or were slaughtered by the people (z) whereby this prophecy was literally and exactly fulfilled, and which is owned by the Jews themselves. Manasseh Ben Israel (a) observes, that though Vespasian banished the Jews into various countries, Egypt is only mentioned by way of reproach, as if it had been said, ye shall go captives into the land from which ye went out triumphant:

by the way whereof I spake unto thee, thou shall see it no more again; the Targum of Jonathan is,"the Word of the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again in ships;''even the same divine Word, the Son of God, that brought them out of it, and went before them in a pillar of cloud and fire, now provoked by their rejection of him, would lead them back again thither; the paraphrast adds,"through the midst of the Red sea, in the path in which ye passed;''as if they were carried over into Egypt in ships, just in that part of the sea in which they had passed before; but that was an unknown and unseen path, after the waters were closed up, and never to be seen more, and which is here meant; for not Egypt, but the way in which they passed, was to be seen no more:

and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and for bondwomen, and no man shall buy you; that is, there in Egypt they would be offered to sale, and so many would be sold until the market was glutted with them, and there would be no buyers. The Targum of Jonathan is,"ye shall be sold there at first to your enemies, at a dear price, as artificers, and afterwards at a mean price as servants and handmaids, until ye become despised, and be brought to serve for nothing, and there be none to take you in.''Jarchi interprets it of they themselves being desirous, and seeking to be sold, to avoid cruelties and death; which agrees with the sense of the word, which may be rendered, "ye shall offer yourselves for sale"; but there will be no buyer, because their enemies will determine upon the slaughter and consumption of them; and to the same purpose Aben Ezra. There were such numbers of them to be sold both at Egypt and at Rome, that the sellers of them had but a poor market for them; and it seems not only because of their number, but the ill opinion had of them as servants. Hegesippus (b) says,"there were many to be sold, but there were few buyers; for the Romans despised the Jews for service, nor were there Jews left to redeem their own.''It is said (c), that thirty were sold for a penny; a just retaliation to them, who had sold their Messiah for thirty pieces of silver.

(w) Hecataeus apud Joseph. contr. Apion, l. 1. sect. 22. (x) Antiqu. l. 12. c. 2. sect. 1.((y) De Bello Jud. l. 6. c. 9. sect. 2.((z) Hieron. in Zech. ii. fol. 120. I.((a) De Termino Vitae, l. 3. sect. 3. p. 131, 132. (b) De excidio Urb. Hieros. l. 5. c. 47. p. 645. (c) Ib. p. 680.
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Guess you are ignorant of history.

And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again - That is, into another state of slavery and bondage similar to that of Egypt, out of which they had been lately brought. And there ye shall be sold, that is, be exposed to sale, or expose yourself to sale as the word התמכרתם hithmaccartem may be rendered; they were vagrants, and wished to become slaves that they might be provided with the necessaries of life. And no man shall buy you; even the Romans thought it a reproach to have a Jew for a slave, they had become so despicable to all mankind. When Jerusalem was taken by Titus, many of the captives, which were above seventeen years of age, were sent into the works in Egypt. See Josephus, Antiq., b. xii, 100:1, 2, War b. vi., c. 9, s. 2; and above all, see Bp. Newton's Dissertations on the Prophecies.

The first verse of the next chapter, in some of the most correct Hebrew Bibles, makes the 69th of this; and very properly, as the second verse of the following chapter begins a new subject.

This is an astonishing chapter: in it are prophecies delivered more than 3,000 years ago, and now fulfilling.

O God, how immense is thy wisdom, and how profound thy counsels! To thee alone are known all thy works from the beginning to the end. What an irrefragable proof does this chapter, compared with the past and present state of the Jewish people, afford of the truth and Divine origin of the Pentateuch!
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show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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What is this sickness that blacks have?

IT'S ALL ABOUT ME MEEEEEEEE!!!!

SHUT UP FOR FUCKS SAKE

YOU'RE EMBARRASSING YOURSELVES!
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Deuteronomy 28:64-68

64 Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your fathers have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the Lord will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, “If only it were evening!” and in the evening, “If only it were morning!”—because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The Lord will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.

The 'again', is not referring to ships, but to the enslavement in Egypt. The scripture could easily read:

The Lord will send you back, [this time], in ships to Egypt.

This is only logical where in verse 64 we are told the Lord has scattered them 'among all nations', 'from one end of the earth to the other'.

The 'journey [God] said 'you should never make again', refers to



Deuteronomy 17:16

16 The king, moreover, must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself or make the people return to Egypt to get more of them, for the Lord has told you, “You are not to go back that way again.”

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28827611


I'm not a religious guy, but believe their is truth to it.

Gods of wood? does that mean totem poles?

Thx
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"Totem poles are not religious artifacts, but more like tombstone markers or signs. They are built to tell stories through the totems carved upon them and to honor those who have passed."



[link to www.ehow.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28827611


As possibly in the sense in obedience to the commandment, You shall honor your father and mother... but then where in the codice of the Law of Moses is one told more about HOW to honor one's father and mother? Are we to Pray to our ancestors, our dead parents, or even our relatives?

Rhetorical questions for this thread, I guess.
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show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
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About 1 more year and you will see that being fulfilled from the country that has turned it's back on God. Those curses are not fulfilled yet, they are endtime prophecies that yet need fulfilling. God will take a nation out of a nation just as it says in Deuteronmy 4:34 and at that time you will see auction blocks with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen slaves
 Quoting: waterman

Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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And please prove how Egypt means bondage!
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3 And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Egypt was and is a nation, you deceivers are just twisting it to suit your wicked agenda. America IS NOT EGYPT!!!

And you don't fulfill that Prophecy because everyone bought black slaves, none were rejected.

And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you. Deuteronomy 28:68
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5759700


The OP conveniently ignores this. His whole premise is false.

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show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


About 1 more year and you will see that being fulfilled from the country that has turned it's back on God. Those curses are not fulfilled yet, they are endtime prophecies that yet need fulfilling. God will take a nation out of a nation just as it says in Deuteronmy 4:34 and at that time you will see auction blocks with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen slaves
 Quoting: waterman

 Quoting: waterman


you prophecying? No this is getting worse!

show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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And please prove how Egypt means bondage!
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3 And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Egypt was and is a nation, you deceivers are just twisting it to suit your wicked agenda. America IS NOT EGYPT!!!

And you don't fulfill that Prophecy because everyone bought black slaves, none were rejected.

And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you. Deuteronomy 28:68
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5759700


The OP conveniently ignores this. His whole premise is false.

bump
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show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"

Here is more proof for your ignorant blabber


JKLTGG

1711. The Old Slave or Meal Market (Sometimes Called Wall Street Market)
Source: Abram Wakeman (1914)
.

History and reminiscences of lower Wall street and vicinity. New York: The Spice Mill publishing co., pp. 21-23.

There are but few more interesting locations in our city than those in the neighborhood of lower Wall street. Just above the present Nos. 87-89 was the old slave market. “On the 4th day of October, 1709, the inhabitants of the East Ward petitioned for liberty to erect a Market House at the south end of Clark’s Slip at the east end of Wall street.” And permission was granted them “to erect same at their own charge,provided it would be finished within two years from date.”
We find November 30th, 1711: “Later the Market House became a place of meeting for slaves during the period when their masters had no work for them. All negroes and Indian slaves that are let to hire within this city to take up their standing, in order to be hired, whereby all persons may know where to hire slaves as occasion shall require and all masters discover where their slaves are hired.”
otjjhh

November 16,1720, orders, “That the neighbors of Wall Street Market House have liberty to remove said Market House
higher up into said Wall street or repair it where it now stands at their own expense and charge.” Six years
after, “a law was ordained that the House is hereby appointed a public market place for sale of all sorts of
corn, grain and meal and that from and after the 25th day of March next, 1726, no corn, grain or meal to
be sold at any other public market under heavy penalty.


TTTYTY
DEUT CHP 28
43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.

44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

WHO ARE THE BANKERS OF THE WORLD? FEDS YES! WHO ARE THE FEDS?

THE JEWISH EDOMITE POWERES[/b

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/22/2012 05:20 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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Around the world all peoples have been dragged off from their lands on ships and taken to other lands in chains.

This includes whites who were stolen for the coastlines around Europe by Muslims.

Whites were also dragged onto ships and forced to come to the US and Australia as slaves.

The difference is most don't carry on crying like a baby about it over a hundred years later!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


OH PLEASE!

show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves"
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


[link to afgen.com]

And Irish slaves were rejected in place of stronger fitter black slaves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229368


I already showed you!
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Around the world all peoples have been dragged off from their lands on ships and taken to other lands in chains.

This includes whites who were stolen for the coastlines around Europe by Muslims.

Whites were also dragged onto ships and forced to come to the US and Australia as slaves.

The difference is most don't carry on crying like a baby about it over a hundred years later!
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


OH PLEASE!

show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves" in ships
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


[link to afgen.com]

And Irish slaves were rejected in place of stronger fitter black slaves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229368


I already showed you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25262604


show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves" in ships

JKLTGG

1711. The Old Slave or Meal Market (Sometimes Called Wall Street Market)
Source: Abram Wakeman (1914)
.

History and reminiscences of lower Wall street and vicinity. New York: The Spice Mill publishing co., pp. 21-23.

There are but few more interesting locations in our city than those in the neighborhood of lower Wall street. Just above the present Nos. 87-89 was the old slave market. “On the 4th day of October, 1709, the inhabitants of the East Ward petitioned for liberty to erect a Market House at the south end of Clark’s Slip at the east end of Wall street.” And permission was granted them “to erect same at their own charge,provided it would be finished within two years from date.”
We find November 30th, 1711: “Later the Market House became a place of meeting for slaves during the period when their masters had no work for them. All negroes and Indian slaves that are let to hire within this city to take up their standing, in order to be hired, whereby all persons may know where to hire slaves as occasion shall require and all masters discover where their slaves are hired.”
otjjhh

November 16,1720, orders, “That the neighbors of Wall Street Market House have liberty to remove said Market House
higher up into said Wall street or repair it where it now stands at their own expense and charge.” Six years
after, “a law was ordained that the House is hereby appointed a public market place for sale of all sorts of
corn, grain and meal and that from and after the 25th day of March next, 1726, no corn, grain or meal to
be sold at any other public market under heavy penalty.


TTTYTY
DEUT CHP 28
43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.

44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

WHO ARE THE BANKERS OF THE WORLD? FEDS YES! WHO ARE THE FEDS?

THE JEWISH EDOMITE POWERES[/b

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/22/2012 05:25 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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And please prove how Egypt means bondage!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5759700


3 And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Egypt was and is a nation, you deceivers are just twisting it to suit your wicked agenda. America IS NOT EGYPT!!!

And you don't fulfill that Prophecy because everyone bought black slaves, none were rejected.

And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you. Deuteronomy 28:68
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5759700


The OP conveniently ignores this. His whole premise is false.

bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25262604


Are you afraid to comment on this OP? What do you have to say for yourself?
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3 And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Egypt was and is a nation, you deceivers are just twisting it to suit your wicked agenda. America IS NOT EGYPT!!!

And you don't fulfill that Prophecy because everyone bought black slaves, none were rejected.

And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you. Deuteronomy 28:68
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5759700


The OP conveniently ignores this. His whole premise is false.

bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25262604


Are you afraid to comment on this OP? What do you have to say for yourself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25262604


show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves" in ships
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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OH PLEASE!

show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves" in ships
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


[link to afgen.com]

And Irish slaves were rejected in place of stronger fitter black slaves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229368


I already showed you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25262604


show me where whites were sold on the auction block with chains on their necks as bondmen and bondwomen: "slaves" in ships

:JKLTGG:

1711. The Old Slave or Meal Market (Sometimes Called Wall Street Market)
Source: Abram Wakeman (1914)
.

History and reminiscences of lower Wall street and vicinity. New York: The Spice Mill publishing co., pp. 21-23.

There are but few more interesting locations in our city than those in the neighborhood of lower Wall street. Just above the present Nos. 87-89 was the old slave market. “On the 4th day of October, 1709, the inhabitants of the East Ward petitioned for liberty to erect a Market House at the south end of Clark’s Slip at the east end of Wall street.” And permission was granted them “to erect same at their own charge,provided it would be finished within two years from date.”
We find November 30th, 1711: “Later the Market House became a place of meeting for slaves during the period when their masters had no work for them. All negroes and Indian slaves that are let to hire within this city to take up their standing, in order to be hired, whereby all persons may know where to hire slaves as occasion shall require and all masters discover where their slaves are hired.”
:otjjhh:

November 16,1720, orders, “That the neighbors of Wall Street Market House have liberty to remove said Market House
higher up into said Wall street or repair it where it now stands at their own expense and charge.” Six years
after, “a law was ordained that the House is hereby appointed a public market place for sale of all sorts of
corn, grain and meal and that from and after the 25th day of March next, 1726, no corn, grain or meal to
be sold at any other public market under heavy penalty.


:TTTYTY:
DEUT CHP 28
43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.

44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

WHO ARE THE BANKERS OF THE WORLD? FEDS YES! WHO ARE THE FEDS?

THE JEWISH EDOMITE POWERES[/b
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


lol is there something wrong with you or something? You sound like a parrot just repeating things. You didn't even read the link I provided. Do the facts hurt?

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