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WHERE IS JUDAH AND ISRAEL AND PROVE THIS HAPPENED TO ANY OTHER NATION

 
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You are such a hypocrite OP, you say all you want is proof and then when people bring proof to your threads, you ban and censor what they say. Shame on you! Repent! You are a total disgrace and in so much trouble with the Lord. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes on your day of Judgement Pharisee.
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He blocks and deletes you because you and your ilk are liars

Case in point...



Jeremiah 17

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17 The sin of Judah is written with a pen of iron, and with the point of a diamond: it is graven upon the table of their heart, and upon the horns of your altars;

2 Whilst their children remember their altars and their groves by the green trees upon the high hills.

3 O my mountain in the field, I will give thy substance and all thy treasures to the spoil, and thy high places for sin, throughout all thy borders.

4 And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.
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And please prove how Egypt means bondage!
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3 And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage
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Egypt was and is a nation, you deceivers are just twisting it to suit your wicked agenda. America IS NOT EGYPT!!!

And you don't fulfill that Prophecy because everyone bought black slaves, none were rejected.

And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you. Deuteronomy 28:68
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Soon, I will send the hornets!
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bring the hornets and prove the thread info applies to any other nation.You are blabbering with no facts
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Oh I will Neim and they will be coming for you first!
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You priests of Baal are in so much trouble!
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Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.


Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
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Black 'Jews'!
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And please prove how Egypt means bondage!
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3 And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage
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Egypt was and is a nation, you deceivers are just twisting it to suit your wicked agenda. America IS NOT EGYPT!!!

And you don't fulfill that Prophecy because everyone bought black slaves, none were rejected.

And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you. Deuteronomy 28:68
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Cat got your tongue Neim?
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And please prove how Egypt means bondage!
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3 And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Egypt was and is a nation, you deceivers are just twisting it to suit your wicked agenda. America IS NOT EGYPT!!!

And you don't fulfill that Prophecy because everyone bought black slaves, none were rejected.

And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you. Deuteronomy 28:68
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Cat got your tongue Neim?
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Oh you like to ignore that part, don't ya?
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You priests of Baal are in so much trouble!
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Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.


Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
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Black 'Jews'!
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link?
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Another thing, the Bible only prophesied that the House of Israel would lose their identity, not Judah and the World has always know who Judah is.
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Now there is a lie for you lets see what Luke SAYS


24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled


IN THE DAYS OF EZRA THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH ANTIOCHES

I CAN FIND THAT FOR YOOU TOO! THIS WAS JUDAH AGAIN BECAUS THEY WILL NOT LISTEN

64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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3 And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage
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Egypt was and is a nation, you deceivers are just twisting it to suit your wicked agenda. America IS NOT EGYPT!!!

And you don't fulfill that Prophecy because everyone bought black slaves, none were rejected.

And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you. Deuteronomy 28:68
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Cat got your tongue Neim?
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Oh you like to ignore that part, don't ya?
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Indentured slaves aren't 'bought'...they work for 'room and board'!
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Another thing, the Bible only prophesied that the House of Israel would lose their identity, not Judah and the World has always know who Judah is.
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Now there is a lie for you lets see what Luke SAYS


24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled


IN THE DAYS OF EZRA THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH ANTIOCHES

I CAN FIND THAT FOR YOOU TOO! THIS WAS JUDAH AGAIN BECAUS ETHEY WILL NOT LISTEN
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What is a lie Neim? And why are you avoiding my other comment? Here let me bump it for you? What are your comments?
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Egypt was and is a nation, you deceivers are just twisting it to suit your wicked agenda. America IS NOT EGYPT!!!

And you don't fulfill that Prophecy because everyone bought black slaves, none were rejected.

And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you. Deuteronomy 28:68
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Cat got your tongue Neim?
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Oh you like to ignore that part, don't ya?
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Indentured slaves aren't 'bought'...they work for 'room and board'!
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You are pitiful and a dishonest swine. You're guilt be upon your own head!
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Cat got your tongue Neim?
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Oh you like to ignore that part, don't ya?
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Indentured slaves aren't 'bought'...they work for 'room and board'!
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You are pitiful and a dishonest swine. You're guilt be upon your own head!
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hey I know who you are "theseventhgate" You can log into your account I never banned you..Be a man but answer the question


DEUT CHP:28
48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

cvgbfd

Prove to me then that the europeans were taken on ships with chains on their necks to a land of bondage for a second time?

Did this happen to the chinese or the arabs or any other nations?



JOEL CHP3
3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.


DEUT CHP 28
And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Cat got your tongue Neim?
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Oh you like to ignore that part, don't ya?
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Indentured slaves aren't 'bought'...they work for 'room and board'!
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You are pitiful and a dishonest swine. You're guilt be upon your own head!
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Matthew 18:7: For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!

If the Jewish people were to be cursed, it was God’s business, not the Church’s business!
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Good morning/day to you my brother!have you seen whats going on at this site? www.idlenomore.com
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[link to www.google.ca]
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Thanks for the info
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No problem. What's funny is that I am a North American Native and a student of God's Word. Natives worship one God, The Great Spirit, but recognize God's spirit within all of His creation and design. They may not have gotten everything right, but they knew there was something much larger than themselves.

However, I do not agree with the Mormon's, who believe that the Natives are descended from the Israelites or are the 'lost tribe' of Israel. This world and its people have had atrocities and though God must respect the free will of evil people, He can always take what was meant for evil and make its purpose and result as something good.

The Native Americans had atrocities committed against them, but for me, imho, it was God's way of bringing the gospel to them so that they, too, could be saved. It is honestly the ONLY good thing to come out of their history since the white man came. Because it sure isn't their way of life as all it has brought is misery, greed and a loss of America's natural beauty given us from that Great Spirit, our God.

People wonder about the Native peoples before the gospel came, but God is a most wondrous God and as they sought Him out in their own primitive way, I believe He spoke to them through His creation so that they humbled themselves before Him and He accepted them through that humbling faith as He has done for all who came before the sacrifice of Christ. God, Himself tells us that since the beginning of the world, His divine nature and presence was obvious and that man has no excuse, this means that even the heathen has no excuse not to know Him.

Romans 1:20

20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

I believe the Native peoples of the world have done well in their recognition of God, as seen and experienced throughout His creation and God will not allow any to perish without having known Him, even in this way.

And this goes for all peoples who lived before the saving grace of Christ, and woe to those who HAVE had Christ, Himself, the prophets and Apostles and God's Holy Word and still do NOT acknowledge Him.

Tell me, who would God recognize more worthy in such a scheme; us today with all we know, compared to those we may deem 'heathens', who actually sought Him out and accepted Him without any other clue accept His creation? Yes, God is indeed fair and just.
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Good morning/day to you my brother!have you seen whats going on at this site? www.idlenomore.com
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the irish kid "theseventhgate" logged in as an AC and trolling I got his number though the mods are allover him

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/22/2012 12:42 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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So, is that your big revelation OP -- that the banksters are Jews?! LMAO!! Like we all didn't know that.

You guys have some incredibly flawed premises that you are basing your conclusions on. For example, the oversimplified "10 tribes in the north and 2 tribes in the south" is NOT accurate! AT LEAST ONE "northern, Israelite" tribe HAS UNITED WITH THE JEWS!! That's all I'm going to say right now because I don't want to leak stuff from my forthcoming book just yet. It took a lot of diligent digging -- years, in fact -- to ferret that info out, BTW.

The bible is a geopolitical propaganda book, so if you are using that as your source rather than objective ones, then you're on the wrong track.
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So, is that your big revelation OP -- that the banksters are Jews?! LMAO!! Like we all didn't know that.

You guys have some incredibly flawed premises that you are basing your conclusions on. For example, the oversimplified "10 tribes in the north and 2 tribes in the south" is NOT accurate! AT LEAST ONE "northern, Israelite" tribe HAS UNITED WITH THE JEWS!! That's all I'm going to say right now because I don't want to leak stuff from my forthcoming book just yet. It took a lot of diligent digging -- years, in fact -- to ferret that info out, BTW.

The bible is a geopolitical propaganda book, so if you are using that as your source rather than objective ones, then you're on the wrong track.
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save yourself the time and the effort with that book smart money should tell you FAIL
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Thanks for the info
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No problem. What's funny is that I am a North American Native and a student of God's Word. Natives worship one God, The Great Spirit, but recognize God's spirit within all of His creation and design. They may not have gotten everything right, but they knew there was something much larger than themselves.

However, I do not agree with the Mormon's, who believe that the Natives are descended from the Israelites or are the 'lost tribe' of Israel. This world and its people have had atrocities and though God must respect the free will of evil people, He can always take what was meant for evil and make its purpose and result as something good.

The Native Americans had atrocities committed against them, but for me, imho, it was God's way of bringing the gospel to them so that they, too, could be saved. It is honestly the ONLY good thing to come out of their history since the white man came. Because it sure isn't their way of life as all it has brought is misery, greed and a loss of America's natural beauty given us from that Great Spirit, our God.

People wonder about the Native peoples before the gospel came, but God is a most wondrous God and as they sought Him out in their own primitive way, I believe He spoke to them through His creation so that they humbled themselves before Him and He accepted them through that humbling faith as He has done for all who came before the sacrifice of Christ. God, Himself tells us that since the beginning of the world, His divine nature and presence was obvious and that man has no excuse, this means that even the heathen has no excuse not to know Him.

Romans 1:20

20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

I believe the Native peoples of the world have done well in their recognition of God, as seen and experienced throughout His creation and God will not allow any to perish without having known Him, even in this way.

And this goes for all peoples who lived before the saving grace of Christ, and woe to those who HAVE had Christ, Himself, the prophets and Apostles and God's Holy Word and still do NOT acknowledge Him.

Tell me, who would God recognize more worthy in such a scheme; us today with all we know, compared to those we may deem 'heathens', who actually sought Him out and accepted Him without any other clue accept His creation? Yes, God is indeed fair and just.
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Then you haven't done any independent research.

The CHEROKEES and their cousins, the IROQUOIS, are HEBREWS. You can still find Cherokees today who SPEAK FLUENT HEBREW and have tons of oral legends, symbols, etc. demonstrating that FACT. PLUS there are cuneiform found chronicling their arrival here.

I'm no LDS (Freemason) or Joseph Smith fan, but that little tidbit in his psychotic crap is CORRECT!! Remember, there are NUGGETS OF TRUTH IN ALL GOOD BULLSHIT.
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So, is that your big revelation OP -- that the banksters are Jews?! LMAO!! Like we all didn't know that.

You guys have some incredibly flawed premises that you are basing your conclusions on. For example, the oversimplified "10 tribes in the north and 2 tribes in the south" is NOT accurate! AT LEAST ONE "northern, Israelite" tribe HAS UNITED WITH THE JEWS!! That's all I'm going to say right now because I don't want to leak stuff from my forthcoming book just yet. It took a lot of diligent digging -- years, in fact -- to ferret that info out, BTW.

The bible is a geopolitical propaganda book, so if you are using that as your source rather than objective ones, then you're on the wrong track.
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save yourself the time and the effort with that book smart money should tell you FAIL
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You are pathetic, desperately clinging to MYTHS and FALSITIES.

Hopefully you will find TRUTH one day, but first you have to drop the defensiveness (and the programming) and open your mind. Good luck -- you need it.
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So, is that your big revelation OP -- that the banksters are Jews?! LMAO!! Like we all didn't know that.

You guys have some incredibly flawed premises that you are basing your conclusions on. For example, the oversimplified "10 tribes in the north and 2 tribes in the south" is NOT accurate! AT LEAST ONE "northern, Israelite" tribe HAS UNITED WITH THE JEWS!! That's all I'm going to say right now because I don't want to leak stuff from my forthcoming book just yet. It took a lot of diligent digging -- years, in fact -- to ferret that info out, BTW.

The bible is a geopolitical propaganda book, so if you are using that as your source rather than objective ones, then you're on the wrong track.
 Quoting: Hahahaha 28872856


save yourself the time and the effort with that book smart money should tell you FAIL
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar




You are pathetic, desperately clinging to MYTHS and FALSITIES.

Hopefully you will find TRUTH one day, but first you have to drop the defensiveness (and the programming) and open your mind. Good luck -- you need it.
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Pagan gentile expressions "good luck?" We live by faith!
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Appears Neim has hit a big NERVE...without personally attacking anyone! No need, though, the truth is like SALT in an open wound...hf
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Appears Neim has hit a big NERVE...without personally attacking anyone! No need, though, the truth is like SALT in an open wound...hf
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because they don't have an answer so they get personal.They cannot prove any of their lies they made up and the biblical heresy they gave to the world

Why do the heathen rage? lol

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Appears Neim has hit a big NERVE...without personally attacking anyone! No need, though, the truth is like SALT in an open wound...hf
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because they don't have an answer so they get personal.They cannot prove any of their lies they made up and the biblical heresy they gave to the world

Why do the heathen rage? lol
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Pro 18:19 A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city: and their contentions are like the bars of a castle.


Pro 18:20 A man's belly shall be satisfied with the fruit of his mouth; and with the increase of his lips shall he be filled.


Pro 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

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[link to www.google.ca]
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Thanks for the info
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No problem. What's funny is that I am a North American Native and a student of God's Word. Natives worship one God, The Great Spirit, but recognize God's spirit within all of His creation and design. They may not have gotten everything right, but they knew there was something much larger than themselves.

However, I do not agree with the Mormon's, who believe that the Natives are descended from the Israelites or are the 'lost tribe' of Israel. This world and its people have had atrocities and though God must respect the free will of evil people, He can always take what was meant for evil and make its purpose and result as something good.

The Native Americans had atrocities committed against them, but for me, imho, it was God's way of bringing the gospel to them so that they, too, could be saved. It is honestly the ONLY good thing to come out of their history since the white man came. Because it sure isn't their way of life as all it has brought is misery, greed and a loss of America's natural beauty given us from that Great Spirit, our God.

People wonder about the Native peoples before the gospel came, but God is a most wondrous God and as they sought Him out in their own primitive way, I believe He spoke to them through His creation so that they humbled themselves before Him and He accepted them through that humbling faith as He has done for all who came before the sacrifice of Christ. God, Himself tells us that since the beginning of the world, His divine nature and presence was obvious and that man has no excuse, this means that even the heathen has no excuse not to know Him.

Romans 1:20

20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

I believe the Native peoples of the world have done well in their recognition of God, as seen and experienced throughout His creation and God will not allow any to perish without having known Him, even in this way.

And this goes for all peoples who lived before the saving grace of Christ, and woe to those who HAVE had Christ, Himself, the prophets and Apostles and God's Holy Word and still do NOT acknowledge Him.

Tell me, who would God recognize more worthy in such a scheme; us today with all we know, compared to those we may deem 'heathens', who actually sought Him out and accepted Him without any other clue accept His creation? Yes, God is indeed fair and just.
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Then you haven't done any independent research.

The CHEROKEES and their cousins, the IROQUOIS, are HEBREWS. You can still find Cherokees today who SPEAK FLUENT HEBREW and have tons of oral legends, symbols, etc. demonstrating that FACT. PLUS there are cuneiform found chronicling their arrival here.

I'm no LDS (Freemason) or Joseph Smith fan, but that little tidbit in his psychotic crap is CORRECT!! Remember, there are NUGGETS OF TRUTH IN ALL GOOD BULLSHIT.
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And dont forget about the Mi'kmaq Indians!they have traditions that they are Isreal/Hebrew and they have the Ark.
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Appears Neim has hit a big NERVE...without personally attacking anyone! No need, though, the truth is like SALT in an open wound...hf
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The Lord despises liars too.
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Appears Neim has hit a big NERVE...without personally attacking anyone! No need, though, the truth is like SALT in an open wound...hf
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The Lord despises liars too.
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God hates sin, but, loves sinners... that would be ALL OF US!

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
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Appears Neim has hit a big NERVE...without personally attacking anyone! No need, though, the truth is like SALT in an open wound...hf
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The Lord despises liars too.
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God hates sin, but, loves sinners... that would be ALL OF US!

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
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The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. Psalm 11:5


Proverbs 6:16-19

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Fail. You don't know the Lord.
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And why are you taking it out of context?

DEUT CHP 28
And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

It says the Lord will bring you into Egypt AGAIN. Not America. Fail.
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Be very careful about the translators' supply of punctuation when translating into the English.

Beware of the Capitalization as well, it is supplied only by the Translators. When you see the casting as "LORD" double check the Hebrew text to find out what the Hebrew letters are. If they are not Yod He Vav He [YHVH], then the translators', or editor's or the publishers have messed up, for instance.

Furthermore, solve the riddle of the Pronouns in every place in the texts with are being consulted. Find the Nouns that each Pronoun is referring to, and use the rules of Hebrew (or in this case English) grammar pertaining to Pronouns.


(Deu 28:68 KJV) And the LORD [YHVY] shall bring thee [the Children of Israel] into Egypt again with ships,

( by the way whereof I [Moses] spake unto thee [the Children of Israel], Thou [the Children of Israel] shalt see it [???] no more again: )

and there [in Egypt] ye [the Children of Israel] shall be sold unto your [the Children of Israel's] enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you[the Children of Israel].

I have tried here to show the derivation of the resolving of the pronouns back into their respective referential nouns.

Understanding that the Speaker of this verse is Mose, and that Moses is speaking to the Children of Israel just as they are ready to pass over the River Jordon into Canaan. There are only three people of the Children of Israel who stood at Mt. Sinai still alive at this time, Moses, Joshua, and Caleb. Everyone else of the Children of Israel is under 41 years of age at this time in question.

The Children of Israel's Tribes, were detailed as the following:

the tribe of Judah.
the tribe of Reuben.
the tribe of Gad.
the tribe of Asher.
the tribe of Nepthalim.
the tribe of Simeon.
the tribe of Levi.
the tribe of Issachar.
the tribe of Zabulon.
the Tribe of Epharim.
the tribe of Manasseh.
the tribe of Benjamin.
the tribe of Dan.

the tribe of Levi was not counted as One of the Twelve Tribes of Israel. Even though they were for all particle purposes a Tribe.

The part:

ye [the Children of Israel] shall be sold unto your [the Children of Israel's] enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you[the Children of Israel].

... seems to be setting forth (at least in the KJV English) an apparent contradiction. You shall be sold vs. no man shall buy you. If one is sold but there is now one to buy, however can one be sold? There is something more going on there than perhaps meets the eye on first blush. The English translation in this case may be ill founded, and poorly translated.

How do we really know who today is of Israel or of one of the Tribes of Israel, that Tribe of Judah?

WE don't. WE Cannot know, period. There today is only on the basis of Man only assumption... at least on the 'race' or 'genetic mtDNA + nuclear DNA (nuDNA). WE cannot find out. Why? Because we do not have the original full genome of Jacob/Israel and his four wives, nor do we have the a sample of the full DNA of Judah and his wive, for instance. Nor of Gad and his wive, etc. (yes, some had more than one wife they begat children with). And because we don't have that original starting set of genomes, we cannot genetically discover who is or who is not in the genetic sense, of Israel. The adoption or injection int the lines of the Tribe of Israel by religious grafting into that Tree is a different issue. But one that grafting in of that 'other' genome into the Tree of Israel the genetics gets every more confused. Any basis of claim as to 'Race' today is a dubious proposition at best and is based only the the 'testimony' and 'witness' of what are often alleged to be long lines of gemologies of which there is no way to proof one way or the other, except to believe their witness or not make their witness. Only God knows who is who.

So it is time to give up all pretensions.
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Appears Neim has hit a big NERVE...without personally attacking anyone! No need, though, the truth is like SALT in an open wound...hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


The Lord despises liars too.
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God hates sin, but, loves sinners... that would be ALL OF US!

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
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The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. Psalm 11:5


Proverbs 6:16-19

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Fail. You don't know the Lord.
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And you speak from NOWHERE?





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