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Congress Adjourns for Christmas Without Path Forward to Avert Fiscal Cliff

 
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Congress Adjourns for Christmas Without Path Forward to Avert Fiscal Cliff
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Cindy Saine
December 21, 2012

CAPITOL HILL — U.S. lawmakers are heading home for the Christmas holidays without any agreement or even a clear path forward on a way to avoid a combination of massive tax increases and spending cuts known as the fiscal cliff. The entire process came to a standstill late Thursday, when the Speaker of the House of Representatives, John Boehner, was unable to muster enough votes in his own Republican caucus for a bill that would only have raised taxes on incomes of $1 million a year.

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Morning John, I imagine the payroll departments around the country have a "fiscal cliff" switch ready to throw on January 1, 2013. Should get interesting in the coming days!
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I keep thinking back to 1913 when a few members of the senate were able to enact the current Federal Reserve act while most members had left for the holidays. There was a thread recently talking about a "formal" adjournment.
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All these crooks know it is better to go over the cliff and then come in as the saviors cutting taxes.
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Won't happen, it would be the final blow to destroy the republican party. Too close to 2014. They will come back next Thursday to sign and drive back home.
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congress set the deadline and the rules for the cliff. The failures of them in the past have lead to this point.

lets just go over and get it done with..
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Won't happen, it would be the final blow to destroy the republican party. Too close to 2014. They will come back next Thursday to sign and drive back home.
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Any precedent for this? Logistically this would be quite difficult.
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You elect corrupt liars and cowards to Congress, you get the governance you deserve. If you want actual governance then start voting in actual real people from the private sector, the way Congress was intended to be, instead of career hack politicians.
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Republicans better get used to this fact.

When the US goes over the fiscal cliff, thanks to the tea party faction, the George Bush tax cuts will expire, and tax rates will go up.

Then the new Congress sworn in in January, will pass new tax cuts, with the help of Democrats in the House, the Democrat controlled Senate, and signed by President Obama.

The tax cuts to be forever known as the "Obama tax cuts".

If you can't see this coming, you've been watching too much Foxnews. And are following your tea party faction, beholden to the weathiest 1/5th of 1% of Americans who make over $1 million per year, who couldn't possibly withstand the indignity of a 3% increase in their tax rate.

The Republicans are a bigger joke than ever right now. Bring on the Obama tax cuts!!!
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Republicans better get used to this fact.

When the US goes over the fiscal cliff, thanks to the tea party faction, the George Bush tax cuts will expire, and tax rates will go up.

Then the new Congress sworn in in January, will pass new tax cuts, with the help of Democrats in the House, the Democrat controlled Senate, and signed by President Obama.

The tax cuts to be forever known as the "Obama tax cuts".

If you can't see this coming, you've been watching too much Foxnews. And are following your tea party faction, beholden to the weathiest 1/5th of 1% of Americans who make over $1 million per year, who couldn't possibly withstand the indignity of a 3% increase in their tax rate.

The Republicans are a bigger joke than ever right now. Bring on the Obama tax cuts!!!
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Rest assured my friend, the "joke" is all inclusive!
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Fiscal cliff - another invention to worry the masses with.
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looking forward to this fiscal cliff stuff.

bring it on.
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congress set the deadline and the rules for the cliff. The failures of them in the past have lead to this point.

lets just go over and get it done with..
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I agree lets roll
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It's a cliff hanger.
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Luciferian's have always had a plan to establish the "pure doctrine of Lucifer" in plain sight, and that's exactly what they're going to do! In the end though, Hell awaits them!
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D O O M ! ! !

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So what we go over the fiscal cliff. The players from both sides want to play the savior and be the good guys. Well we all know both sides are two sides of the same coin doing their masters bidding and we the people are the ones that suffer from their greed, lack of intelligence and failure to lead by example. To the AC that has been bashing the republicans all morning, you still believe that the demons are your savior and will tow the co. line till the end won't you. shilly troll

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Boehner said it best....."Merry Christmas, everyone!".

Debt....Spending....bad.
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Yeah...those evil rascally Republican Congressmen.

No mention of Obama jetting off to another multi-million dollar vacation to Hawaii, or the constant shifting in his position.

Dont get me wrong, I feel the President has played Boehner like a Stradivarius, with the medias help. As much as I disagree with the AC's above tone, and blind rhetoric, he does have a distinct point.

BTW...what makes MSNBC or CNN, or any of the other "news" organizations any more or less biased than FOX? IMHO, at least FOX tries to present both sides, and the Lib/Progressive guests get a say and arent shouted down and called morons like the opposition are on lets say...MSNBC.
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Yeah...those evil rascally Republican Congressmen.

No mention of Obama jetting off to another multi-million dollar vacation to Hawaii, or the constant shifting in his position.

Dont get me wrong, I feel the President has played Boehner like a Stradivarius, with the medias help. As much as I disagree with the AC's above tone, and blind rhetoric, he does have a distinct point.

BTW...what makes MSNBC or CNN, or any of the other "news" organizations any more or less biased than FOX? IMHO, at least FOX tries to present both sides, and the Lib/Progressive guests get a say and arent shouted down and called morons like the opposition are on lets say...MSNBC.
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Of course, the President has no say in the matter because it is CONGRESS which needs to do something.
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Republicans better get used to this fact.

When the US goes over the fiscal cliff, thanks to the tea party faction, the George Bush tax cuts will expire, and tax rates will go up.

Then the new Congress sworn in in January, will pass new tax cuts, with the help of Democrats in the House, the Democrat controlled Senate, and signed by President Obama.

The tax cuts to be forever known as the "Obama tax cuts".

If you can't see this coming, you've been watching too much Foxnews. And are following your tea party faction, beholden to the weathiest 1/5th of 1% of Americans who make over $1 million per year, who couldn't possibly withstand the indignity of a 3% increase in their tax rate.

The Republicans are a bigger joke than ever right now. Bring on the Obama tax cuts!!!
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Always last minute. Some plan will come
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Yeah...those evil rascally Republican Congressmen.

No mention of Obama jetting off to another multi-million dollar vacation to Hawaii, or the constant shifting in his position.

Dont get me wrong, I feel the President has played Boehner like a Stradivarius, with the medias help. As much as I disagree with the AC's above tone, and blind rhetoric, he does have a distinct point.

BTW...what makes MSNBC or CNN, or any of the other "news" organizations any more or less biased than FOX? IMHO, at least FOX tries to present both sides, and the Lib/Progressive guests get a say and arent shouted down and called morons like the opposition are on lets say...MSNBC.
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Of course, the President has no say in the matter because it is CONGRESS which needs to do something.
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Wait...What?

The WTF is all these weeks of secret and not so secret meetings with the Executive hmmmmm?

Of course the House needs to pass a Bill, which they have on several occasions, but it still needs to get through the Senate, which the Senate majority leader has publically spoken that any House Bill is DOA in his chamber...but again, no harsh words toward him and his fellow Democrat hostage takers, who havent passed a budget bill in over 4 years....and then the President needs to sign it.

Trust me, I dont needs a civics lesson, and know how things are supposed to work. I am just asking for a little fairness here.
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Many democrats have actually been saying that the reason why our economy has had problems, is that our taxes are too low.

I say, let's give their reasoning a chance. Let everyone's taxes go through the roof. Especially the poor who will be paying 50% more. (Bush's tax cuts helped the poor more then the wealthy.)

Then we can see what happens when the demoncrats get what they wanted.

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When was the last time a federal budget was passed and they actually worked within their own constraints of that budget?
They pass more laws and regulations that do nothing more than try to bring in more revenue for the programs that are insolvent. Taxes are a problem, spending is a problem, the revenue is a problem. The more that is given or taken the more that is borrowed and spent.

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Yeah...those evil rascally Republican Congressmen.

No mention of Obama jetting off to another multi-million dollar vacation to Hawaii, or the constant shifting in his position.

Dont get me wrong, I feel the President has played Boehner like a Stradivarius, with the medias help. As much as I disagree with the AC's above tone, and blind rhetoric, he does have a distinct point.

BTW...what makes MSNBC or CNN, or any of the other "news" organizations any more or less biased than FOX? IMHO, at least FOX tries to present both sides, and the Lib/Progressive guests get a say and arent shouted down and called morons like the opposition are on lets say...MSNBC.
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Of course, the President has no say in the matter because it is CONGRESS which needs to do something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30636883


The president has been creating executive orders nonstop that supersede our constitution in every way without the consent of Congress. Who's to say he won't step in and do it in this matter??
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so Bush's tax cuts expire Jan 1st? is that correct?
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good-
we/thejoker hasen't had a budget for FOUR YEARS anyway and he already spent our future into bankruptsy so it's time for another bazillion dollar spending spree in hawaii buncha poor excuses for humans.

So good - obamazombies should be proud Amerikans.
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so Bush's tax cuts expire Jan 1st? is that correct?
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That is my understanding.......