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AquaBounty: Man-made salmon-like fish clears last FDA approval hurdle- Yum, Frankenfish!

 
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Here's a good idea for an ad slogan. Show Dennis Rodman smile with mouth full of rotten teeth then at the bottom of the ad in bold letters: Tastes Like Madonna!
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(from OP link)

'....In 2010, the FDA concluded that the AquaAdvantage fish was just as safe as traditional salmon to eat. Only now, however, has it been finally able to release its environmental assessment report, one of the final steps before AquaBounty can be given the green light.....'


(from July 2012)

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'The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is often accused of serving industry at the expense of consumers. But even FDA defenders are shocked by reports this week of an institutionalized FDA spying program on its own scientists, lawmakers, reporters and academics that included an enemies list of "actors" and collaborators....

The paranoid and retaliatory email monitoring program, which sought to suppress the safety opinions of those hired to give their safety opinions, has provoked swift action from Capitol Hill. "I am writing to express my disappointment and disbelief with the way the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has retaliated against whistleblowers who expressed concern to Members of Congress and the Office of Special Counsel (OSC) regarding safety concerns about medical products....

...top FDA managers "committed the most outrageous misconduct by ordering, coercing and intimidating FDA physicians and scientists to recommend approval, and then retaliating when the physicians and scientists refused to go along."
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if these continue to mix in the wild the final gene pool will be very interesting... or it might make salmon go extinct.
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I really don't get what the problem is. It's just a salmon that grows faster than normal, right?
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
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if these continue to mix in the wild the final gene pool will be very interesting... or it might make salmon go extinct.
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Ok, that could be a problem.
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
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So let me guess.....They will/have patented the fish that will sneak out into open waters and mate with other fish. Then they will claim ownership of all the fishies in the waters. That is the least of our worries on this one.
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Patented fish. I never thought of that. Trial and error. I can only hope to survive the 'errors'.
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Genetically modified salmon is composed of DNA of different fish including eel. There are debates going on whether it could start new allergies and cause cancer. No long term studies pertaining to these questions exist. There's a possibility that if the fish escapes in to the ocean, it could cause havoc in our environment and since it grows so fast, deplete the food of the fish in nature that were not tapered with by scientists.
The GMO salmon does not have to be labeled as GMO food. Any Atlantic salmon you buy in the future could be genetically modified.
Enjoy your Frankenfish at your favorite Sushi restaurant and at your dinnertable...
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Monsanto OWNS the FDA !

yes your right on this and the government


















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God forbid these creatures get out into the wild, anyone know if these engineered beasts can interbreed with other fish that are not Frankenfish?
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How would the group here at GLP propose to produce more food?
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How would the group here at GLP propose to produce more food?
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I am not a pot smoker and I don't want to get into that debate, but I believe in Hemp as a crop that could feed people. I buy the seeds as a snack. They are not bad and have some good fats in them. They are high in protein. I personally eat sardines. They aren't my fave fish but they are edible, and they grow really fast and are really high in Omega 3's. Quinoa, millet and other crops are very nutritious and higher in protein so you can feed more people with less of it. Corn is just crap, filler, little nutrition value.

Maybe we just need to grow more of the nutritious crops and less of the crap, filler crops? Genetic engineering is never going to be the answer unless you are hoping civilization dies out much more quickly.
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WILL CHRIST TELL YOU NOW?

WHEN THEY PERMIT SOMETHING. IT IS NOT BECAUSE IT IS SAFE.

THE VERY REASON.

IS BECAUSE IT CARRIES WITH IT, A 'QUOTA' OF CASUALTIES
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There are no limits as to how to increase profits and to quick boost the economy. Get ready for the Frankenturkey, Frankensteak and even Franken Vegan Food next.
The human species is a neurotic, unbalanced, ego and profit driven race that managed to destroy the planet's ecosystem and environment with their scientific and technological "Advancements" in less than 50 years.
It poisoned the oceans, the air, irreversibly destroyed forests and the earth's soil. It created means to self-destruct the entire planet in less than a day.

But...it takes pride in all the technological, scientific and medical "advances" that keep humans alive longer than ever before, but usually forgets to mention that the extra years of life are marked by debilitating modern day chronic diseases that need constant medication, medical intervention and care. Forget about neurological diseases, the rise of the dementia epidemic, autism and high numbers of cancer.
Ignoring all this, business is conducted as usual, critics and ethics are being ignored. Quick profit disregarding any potential consequences is all that matters.
Don't be surprised if the rich start genetically modifying their kids to make them into FRANKENkids who live for 500 years without a conscience, and with a sick sense of entitlement.

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WILL CHRIST TELL YOU NOW?

WHEN THEY PERMIT SOMETHING. IT IS NOT BECAUSE IT IS SAFE.

THE VERY REASON.

IS BECAUSE IT CARRIES WITH IT, A 'QUOTA' OF CASUALTIES

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WILL CHRIST TELL YOU NOW?

WHEN THEY PERMIT SOMETHING. IT IS NOT BECAUSE IT IS SAFE.

THE VERY REASON.

IS BECAUSE IT CARRIES WITH IT, A 'QUOTA' OF CASUALTIES

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Eel+Salmon, maybe they are tryin to bring back the saber tooth salmon. There really was one, just google it.
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It does make me wonder if the radiation in the oceans and the frankenfish have any connection.

Kill off the natural fish with radiation and then replace with frankenfish that probably have all kinds of dangerous things waiting for human consumption.

Just another day in the wonderful world eh!
 Quoting: Moonlight Rambler


Strong paranoia..
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If you can have a conversation with your meal....you probably shouldn't eat it.
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I just see all sorts of good things coming from this. /Sarcasm off

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"On Friday, the US Food and Drug Administration released an environmental assessment report regarding a salmon-hybrid developed in the laboratories of AquaBounty. The FDA must wait two months before they make final their decision regarding the fate of the frankenfish, but through their study they have determined that the genetically engineered animal, the “AquAdvantage,” is safe enough to be sold.

The fish, a hybrid of the Pacific Chinook salmon and a ray-finned creature called the eelpout, is engineered to grow twice as normal as traditional salmon. Once the frankenfish is approved for good, AquaBounty will be able to offer meatier fish able to feed more people.
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“This is a radical new technology. We need very good, careful, close regulation, and we just don't have that. We can't be assured of the safety of any of these genetically engineered organisms,” he said."

[link to rt.com]
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


The fuck?!!

"give me one of them filet-o-frankenfish sammiches"
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From ecowatch.org

The assessment, which relies heavily on data provided by AquaBounty, ignores the fact that up to five percent of the fish may be fertile at a commercial scale. This opens the possibility that fertile, genetically engineered fish could escape into local waterways and wreak havoc on the ecosystem and already threatened wild salmon populations. The FDA also ignores risks posed to the public, since genetically engineered salmon have higher levels of IGF-1, a growth hormone that, according to the National Cancer Institute of the National Institutes of Health, may increase the risk of several types of cancer. Additionally, some tests on allergenicity had a shockingly small sample size of six to twelve fish.

Despite receiving nearly 400,000 public comments, letters signed by more than 300 environmental, public interest, fishing, and animal welfare organizations and restaurants, a letter signed by forty members of Congress, and letters from state legislatures demanding that the FDA deny approval of this fish, the Obama administration has taken the final step towards approval of this genetically engineered salmon. Numerous polls show that the vast majority of Americans feel the FDA should not allow genetically engineered fish and meat into the marketplace and support labeling of genetically engineered food. A 30-day comment period on this assessment will be opened in the Federal Register before the fish is officially approved for human consumption.
Today the Obama administration stated loud and clear that it is more interested in protecting the profits of the biotechnology industry than public health, wild fisheries or our environment. ...genetically engineered salmon pose serious threats to the environment and the public.”
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This has all the plot elements for a bad Syfy Channel movie.

The fish is genetically modified with a Gene from another Salmon and a Gene from a eelpout. Both Growth genes, so the fish achieve a massive size in a very little amount of time.
 Quoting: Red Harvest


He'll yeah this would be sweet. I won't eat em but they would be fun to catch ;-)
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Might as well. KFC has been feeding us Frankenchicken for decades.

www.null-hypothesis.co.uk/science//item/kfc_mutant_meat_genet​ic_chicken
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It does make me wonder if the radiation in the oceans and the frankenfish have any connection.

Kill off the natural fish with radiation and then replace with frankenfish that probably have all kinds of dangerous things waiting for human consumption.

Just another day in the wonderful world eh!
 Quoting: Moonlight Rambler


Strong paranoia..
 Quoting: ForNoOne



<snip>

par·a·noi·a [par-uh-noi-uh] noun

1. Psychiatry. a mental disorder characterized by systematized delusions
2. baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others

fact[fakt] noun

1. something that actually exists; reality; truth:

2. something known to exist or to have happened

3. a truth known by actual experience or observation

4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened

[link to dictionary.reference.com]

[link to dictionary.reference.com]


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Half of the 10 coho salmon tested since the Fukushima disaster were contaminated with cesium. One coho caught in Japanese coastal waters last October had 114 Bq/kg of cesium, surpassing Japan’s ceiling. Chum salmon, on the other hand, showed much less contamination than coho, with only nine of 257 chum catches since the accident testing positive for cesium. The highest amount detected was eight Bq/kg in a catch last November.

Among the hardest-hit fish species are landlocked salmon. Every one of the 42 kokanee (a landlocked sockeye salmon) tested since March 2011 had at least some cesium contamination. Japan exported $430,000 of kokanee to Canada in the first four months of 2012, according to Statistics Canada figures.

[link to www.nuc.berkeley.edu]
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Mmmmmmmm Franken fish!homeruhh
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If the fish grows twice as fast as a normal Salmon, that means it eats at least twice as much. If released into the wild, it could out-eat other fishes, depleting food sources.
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I suppose they will be cooking it in some high fructose corn syrup and sweetening it up with aspartame then....

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This will destroy fisheries around the world.

Biggest mistake since the atomic bomb.

Mark my words.

This has been a Rhamthoth dispatch.

Sorry.
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