ummmm.....Image of Mayan artifact in a MUSEUM shows Dec 23rd 2012 as the 13.0.0.0.0?! | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19505114 12/22/2012 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was right!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539806 Thread: I thought the Mayan Calendar actually ends December 23, 12 NOT the 21st?????????? yeah |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23754089 12/22/2012 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So i'll reiterate what another guy said on here when it was thought to be the 21st.. If thr calendar goes until the 23rd, wouldn't that mean the 24th would be "the date" as if the 23rd is on the calendar, then the 24th would be the non existent date correct? |
| UndercoverAlien User ID: 30631605 12/22/2012 12:08 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Didn't you get over this fucking Mayan fiasco already???? ![]() Last Edited by UndercoverAlien on 12/22/2012 12:08 PM "Do or do not. There is no try." (Yoda) |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 29412599 12/22/2012 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nasa.gov] Q: Is NASA predicting a "total blackout" of Earth on Dec. 23 to Dec. 25? A: Absolutely not. Neither NASA nor any other scientific organization is predicting such a blackout. The false reports on this issue claim that some sort of "alignment of the Universe" will cause a blackout. There is no such alignment (see next question). Some versions of this rumor cite an emergency preparedness message from NASA Administrator Charles Bolden. This is simply a message encouraging people to be prepared for emergencies, recorded as part of a wider government preparedness campaign. It never mentions a blackout. {No such alignment? I thought part of this whole hoopla was a grand Galactic alignment?} Q: Could planets align in a way that impacts Earth? A: There are no planetary alignments in the next few decades and even if these alignments were to occur, their effects on the Earth would be negligible. {what} |
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| 1908247 User ID: 30632452 12/22/2012 12:14 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the mayan calendar is about the return of the sun god. let me tell you something, the 3 days of darkness are real, but its not something that we should see and experience, the 3 days of darkness are related to the awakening of the sun god. the date of the mayan calendar is indeed the 21st. 21st + 3 days = 24th/25th december, ring a bell? -No cause is a lost cause if there is a fool to fight for it. - ? Nus. |
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| Paid Shill User ID: 30239716 12/22/2012 12:18 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the mayan calendar is about the return of the sun god. let me tell you something, the 3 days of darkness are real, but its not something that we should see and experience, the 3 days of darkness are related to the awakening of the sun god. the date of the mayan calendar is indeed the 21st. Quoting: 1908247 21st + 3 days = 24th/25th december, ring a bell? "[Insert Date Here] is about a spiritual awakening."- Average GLP user I'm Definitely Not A Paid Shill |
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| Machine42 User ID: 14765545 12/22/2012 12:27 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Q - According to Mayan calculations, when (in our calendar) is the world due to end? The end of the Mayan Great Cycle after the completion of the 12th Bak'tum. It’s either the 21st or 23rd December, 2012 depending on whether you use the 584,285 or 584,283 correlation coefficient. December 23, 2012. I can't believe I actually remember this. I would go so far as to say that I am ashamed to know this. On the last day. It has already happened, at least for the Mayans. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 29412599 12/22/2012 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to the director of the Hieroglyphic and Iconographic Heap MAYA (Ajimaya) INAH, such belief is modern and its origin can be traced back to the 70s of the twentieth century, with the first esoteric publications in which "predicts" the end of human civilization, coinciding with the TENTH POSTGRADUATE b'ak'tun in the Long Count of the Maya calendar, which corresponds to December 21, 2012. Of the approximately 15 thousand REGISTERED glyphic texts so far and have been traced over time at different sites in the Maya area, only two inscriptions there is mention of the year 2012, pointed out the archaeologist, who teaches a course on mythology and Classic Maya Religion in the National School of Anthropology and History (ENAH). "As the correlation GMT + 2 (Goodman-Martinez-Thompson, plus two days) using epigraphers to convert Maya dates to the Gregorian calendar, the exact date would be December 23, 2012 and not on 21. It was registered in the Tortuguero Monument 6 and a fragment found COMALCALCO, both archaeological sites of Tabasco and relatively close to each other. " ... "The bottom line is that the Mayans never mentioned that will end the world or time," said INAH epigrapher. Carlos Pallan abounded in this sense, the particular passage of Tortuguero Monument 6 is very brief and says simply that "ONCE YOU MEET THE THIRTEENTH b'ak'tun, on 23 December 2012, down from HEAVEN BOLON Yokte 'K'U, ie the god - or gods - of the nine pillars ". ... In STONE IS WRITTEN DATE 23 DECEMBER 2012, prompting a rumor that the Mayans predicted it to the world, powered by the American film "2012", which refers to the alleged apocalypse. In the little that reads the Maya referred to the "Arrival of a Lord of the heavens, to coincide with the end of a cycle number," Romero said. The date inscribed on the stone refers to BACTUM XIII , which means the beginning of a new era, Romero insisted. [link to abakmatematicamaya.blogspot.com] Boom. And there it is. |
| Half Past Midnight User ID: 781996 12/22/2012 12:31 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So i'll reiterate what another guy said on here when it was thought to be the 21st.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23754089 If thr calendar goes until the 23rd, wouldn't that mean the 24th would be "the date" as if the 23rd is on the calendar, then the 24th would be the non existent date correct? So that would be the 2nd coming? Or the 3rd coming, or 4th or............ |
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| Machine42 User ID: 14765545 12/22/2012 12:32 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The canonical dates (according to Ehran the Scribe) on the ends of the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth worlds are August 12, 3113 BCE (the fall of Atlantis), December 24, 2011 CE (the appearance of Ryumyo), and April 4, 7137 CE. This gives 5123-5125 years per mana cycle [1,871,270 days for the Fifth World’s duration, and 1,871,969 for the Sixth World’s]. The Mayan Long Count suggests 1.872M days, or 5125.36 years. It also seems that Ehran’s dates are a year late (0.0.0.0.0 should be August 11 or 12, 3114 BCE— the astronomical year –3113) and a year early (13.0.0.0.0 corresponds to December 21 or 23, 2012). |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30641562 12/22/2012 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From [link to edj.net] Even using Lounsbury's criterea the 584283 wins out. Lounsbury, to his discredit, does not explicitly point this out, except in a denial sort of way when he says "It is date D whose astronomical circumstances are the most critical for an evaluation of the relative merits of the three interpretations of Landa's double date" (200). By eliminating the other data, Lounsbury simply circles back to that same Nov 20th, 934 A.D. date and his requirement of perfect accuracy. But now he begins to generalize his argument, and craftily ends his essay by saying "...I believe that this provides further assurance that one of the Thompson set of values for the correlation constant is correct. (204)" [italics added] Very diplomatic. Yes, one of those Thompson correlations is, indeed the correct one. It is the 584283, the so-called "Thompson 2" correlation of 1950, the one that makes 0.0.0.0.0 4 Ahau 8 Cumku equal to August 11th, 3114 B.C. And the present-day Maya would agree It should be pointed out that in the popular books authored by Linda Schele and David Freidel ("Forest of Kings" (1990) and "Maya Cosmos" (1993), they follow Lounsbury in supporting the 584285 correlation. ("Forest of Kings" was, in fact, dedicated to Lounsbury, Schele's mentor.) This is problematic for another reason, the fact that modern day Mayan daykeepers in Guatemala are de facto following the 283 correlation. Lounsbury bandaged this by saying that there was a two-day shift in the day-count sometime just prior to the conquest. This means that, even by Lounsbury's theory, the 13-baktun cycle end date is December 21st, 2012 A.D., and all other post-conquest dates given in Schele and Freidel are wrong. I point this out in my published article "The How and Why of the Mayan End Date in A.D. 2012" (Dec. '94): "Linda Schele and David Freidel, unlike most Mayanists, continue to support the work of Floyd Lounsbury in promoting the 584285 correlation. This is 2 days off from the Thompson correlation that I use. The decisive factor in supporting the Thompson correlation of 584283 is the fact that it corresponds with the tzolkin count still followed in the highlands of Guatemala. To account for this discrepency in his correlation, Lounsbury claims that the count was shifted back two days sometime before the conquest (not likely), thus explaining its present placement. This means that either correlation will give the December 21st end date. Nevertheless, Schele and Freidel still report that the end date is December 23rd, 2012 rather than Dec. 21st, an unfortunate faux pas understandable only because they aren't particularly interested in the specifics of the correlation debate. For a detailed discussion of this topic, refer to book Tzolkin: Visionary Perspectives and Calendar Studies " ("The Mountain Astrologer", Dec-1994, pg. 57). |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 29412599 12/22/2012 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to the director of the Hieroglyphic and Iconographic Heap MAYA (Ajimaya) INAH, such belief is modern and its origin can be traced back to the 70s of the twentieth century, with the first esoteric publications in which "predicts" the end of human civilization, coinciding with the TENTH POSTGRADUATE b'ak'tun in the Long Count of the Maya calendar, which corresponds to December 21, 2012. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29412599 Of the approximately 15 thousand REGISTERED glyphic texts so far and have been traced over time at different sites in the Maya area, only two inscriptions there is mention of the year 2012, pointed out the archaeologist, who teaches a course on mythology and Classic Maya Religion in the National School of Anthropology and History (ENAH). "As the correlation GMT + 2 (Goodman-Martinez-Thompson, plus two days) using epigraphers to convert Maya dates to the Gregorian calendar, the exact date would be December 23, 2012 and not on 21. It was registered in the Tortuguero Monument 6 and a fragment found COMALCALCO, both archaeological sites of Tabasco and relatively close to each other. " ... "The bottom line is that the Mayans never mentioned that will end the world or time," said INAH epigrapher. Carlos Pallan abounded in this sense, the particular passage of Tortuguero Monument 6 is very brief and says simply that "ONCE YOU MEET THE THIRTEENTH b'ak'tun, on 23 December 2012, down from HEAVEN BOLON Yokte 'K'U, ie the god - or gods - of the nine pillars ". ... In STONE IS WRITTEN DATE 23 DECEMBER 2012, prompting a rumor that the Mayans predicted it to the world, powered by the American film "2012", which refers to the alleged apocalypse. In the little that reads the Maya referred to the "Arrival of a Lord of the heavens, to coincide with the end of a cycle number," Romero said. The date inscribed on the stone refers to BACTUM XIII , which means the beginning of a new era, Romero insisted. [link to abakmatematicamaya.blogspot.com] Boom. And there it is. |
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| Hahahaha User ID: 28872856 12/22/2012 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the mayan calendar is about the return of the sun god. let me tell you something, the 3 days of darkness are real, but its not something that we should see and experience, the 3 days of darkness are related to the awakening of the sun god. the date of the mayan calendar is indeed the 21st. Quoting: 1908247 21st + 3 days = 24th/25th december, ring a bell? Yes, the sun/son "dies for 3 days" and then is "resurrected." That should ring a bell too!! |
| Tantalus User ID: 26159062 12/22/2012 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun, in its yearly cycle, reaches its lowest point south on December 21, where it rises on the horizon on the winter solstice, AND STAYS THERE FOR 3 DAYS, when on the 25th, it moves one degree north in its first step back north again, and will move north every day it rises untill the summer solstice on June 21, where it will stay for 3 days, at its furthest point north, untill June 25, when it begins to move south again, untill the winter solstice, on December 21, again. Do you see the cycle? Watch Zeitgeist. It will break it down for you. The information about the sun cycle starts about 15 min into it. Last Edited by Tantalus on 12/22/2012 01:34 PM "Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither" --Benjamin Franlkin No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk? Thread: No One Ever Said Freedom Was Safe - A Short Thesis on Gun Control |
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