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Why is it that people from other countries all of a sudden believe they have a say in the American constitutions?

 
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Why is it that people from other countries all of a sudden believe they have a say in the American constitutions?
You had your guys turn. Butt out.
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Probably because America floods the world with our pop culture, our money, and our military. So the world feels they can, at least, comment on their overlord's political processes.
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Probably because America floods the world with our pop culture, our money, and our military. So the world feels they can, at least, comment on their overlord's political processes.
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That's true. The new world order in progress.
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Because somebody has to tell you brain dead yanks that your country is having a little problem.
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Hypocrisy?
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Because you think you can put your nose into foreign affairs.
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Because if we want a free world it has to start with you guys. If you guys fail then we all do, period.

I was dead against gun control in the UK But i was unable to make a difference. The majority of people in the UK do not support a gun ban, but we have no say in the matter. We have lost all our rights to selfdefense now. If we are burgled we have to let the steal our stuff or we go to prison.
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Oh I get it ... So it's okay for the American government to stick their nose everywhere but dare I say something against your 2nd amendment. Fucking hypocrites ...
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Probably because America floods the world with our pop culture, our money, and our military. So the world feels they can, at least, comment on their overlord's political processes.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


I love it when Americans brag about being better than the rest, while the number of dumbfucks is nowhere higher.

Your pop culture? Lady Kaka? Britney Spears? Are you serious? The only country that has made decent music the past half century, is the UK.

Your money? You mean that mountain of debt you created or the Jews who control the money flow in the US?

I agree about the military though. There is not 1 other country with that many dumb pawns that can be used for foreign policy. That's one positive thing about the patriotic agenda.
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Yo OP, get a clue, our government tries to shove its values down the throats of the rest of the world.

Why should we be surprised when they do the same to us?

Anyway, I would own guns even if there was no second amendment.
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Probably because America floods the world with our pop culture, our money, and our military. So the world feels they can, at least, comment on their overlord's political processes.
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I love it when Americans brag about being better than the rest, while the number of dumbfucks is nowhere higher.

Your pop culture? Lady Gaga? Britney Spears? Are you serious? The only country that has made decent music the past half century, is the UK.

Your money? You mean that mountain of debt you created or the Jews who control the money flow in the US?

I agree about the military though. There is not 1 other country with that many dumb pawns that can be used for foreign policy. That's one positive thing about the patriotic agenda.
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So why do you foreigners who so hate America waste your time coming on one of our forums like this?

Surely you don't think what you say matters or is even read by anyone with influence in the first place?

And I really don't think America has done anything worse, actually not as bad, as the countries of the EU have in their own sordid histories.

I don't see America or Americans really having all that much interest in your affairs at all. And we don't sit around thinking of every negative thing we can post about your countries either.
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the Jews
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So we have proof that there is at least one Neanderthal in Belgium.
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Probably because America floods the world with our pop culture, our money, and our military. So the world feels they can, at least, comment on their overlord's political processes.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


I love it when Americans brag about being better than the rest, while the number of dumbfucks is nowhere higher.

Your pop culture? Lady Gaga? Britney Spears? Are you serious? The only country that has made decent music the past half century, is the UK.

Your money? You mean that mountain of debt you created or the Jews who control the money flow in the US?

I agree about the military though. There is not 1 other country with that many dumb pawns that can be used for foreign policy. That's one positive thing about the patriotic agenda.
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So why do you foreigners who so hate America waste your time coming on one of our forums like this?

Surely you don't think what you say matters or is even read by anyone with influence in the first place?

And I really don't think America has done anything worse, actually not as bad, as the countries of the EU have in their own sordid histories.

I don't see America or Americans really having all that much interest in your affairs at all. And we don't sit around thinking of every negative thing we can post about your countries either.
 Quoting: Bluebird


I'm not sitting here thinking of every negative thing about the USA. I merely answered the OP's initial question.

I come on GLP, because I like the info.

It probably doesn't matter or is read by someone with influence, but I really don't care.

You're right when you say Europe has done worse in the past, but can I or anyone else for that matter be blamed for what happened during Hitler's reign or what the Vikings did? That was before our time here and can't be changed.

What matters is today and the future. Unfortunately, today and I predict in the near future as well, Americans kill kill kill abroad. And I see a correlation between the "love for killing" and the "love for guns". Do you?
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the Jews
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So we have proof that there is at least one Neanderthal in Belgium.
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Ben Bernanke is not a Jew? (I could name a whole list of hooked noses controlling the USA, if you want me to)

Truth hurts?
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the Jews
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So we have proof that there is at least one Neanderthal in Belgium.
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Ben Bernanke is not a Jew? (I could name a whole list of hooked noses controlling the USA, if you want me to)

Truth hurts?
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Why didn't you blame it on the whites? Bernanke is white.

You are just racist scum, you are the type that would have been controlled by Hitler, doing his bidding.

So much for evolution, you pitiful monkey.
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LOL! Cause your government is going around killing innocent people believing it has a say in how they live and run their countries. The U.S. is becoming a world tyrant and somehow thinks they run the whole world. If that is the case...then every citizen in the world has a say against it! Including the fact that your Constitution obviously holds no power to your leaders. It is a worthless piece of paper so it matters not what anyone has to say about it...it no longer exists.

But, we say no to your governments tyranny and slaughter!!!!
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the Jews
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So we have proof that there is at least one Neanderthal in Belgium.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30283995


Ben Bernanke is not a Jew? (I could name a whole list of hooked noses controlling the USA, if you want me to)

Truth hurts?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30658353


Why didn't you blame it on the whites? Bernanke is white.

You are just racist scum, you are the type that would have been controlled by Hitler, doing his bidding.

So much for evolution, you pitiful monkey.
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Bernanke is NOT White. A Jew is NOT White.

Jews are not even human. A human has a heart, a soul and a consciousness. Jews are parasites at best. They were put here by the devil himself and their goal is to destroy the world.
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Because America has for many years dictated to the world what they can do, eat, live, spend etc, so the world now thinks its a good idea to reciprocate by letting you crazy kids know that playing with guns is a 'bad thing' and you should just play with twigs instead.

Gosh darn those Americans, they're so new at everything, we really should have let them have the manual on how things are really done.

But whatever you do, don't believe anything the Belgians tell you, just say no...
LOL.
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So we have proof that there is at least one Neanderthal in Belgium.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30283995


Ben Bernanke is not a Jew? (I could name a whole list of hooked noses controlling the USA, if you want me to)

Truth hurts?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30658353


Why didn't you blame it on the whites? Bernanke is white.

You are just racist scum, you are the type that would have been controlled by Hitler, doing his bidding.

So much for evolution, you pitiful monkey.
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Bernanke is NOT White. A Jew is NOT White.

Jews are not even human. A human has a heart, a soul and a consciousness. Jews are parasites at best. They were put here by the devil himself and their goal is to destroy the world.
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I'll assume your parents proudly conspired with the Nazis?

I seriously hope you don't breed.
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Because America has for many years dictated to the world what they can do, eat, live, spend etc, so the world now thinks its a good idea to reciprocate by letting you crazy kids know that playing with guns is a 'bad thing' and you should just play with twigs instead.

Gosh darn those Americans, they're so new at everything, we really should have let them have the manual on how things are really done.

But whatever you do, don't believe anything the Belgians tell you, just say no...
LOL.
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The problem with Americans is that they have no culture. It's just a couple of 100's of years old and they still haven't evolved from the Bill of Rights. LOL.
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You had your guys turn. Butt out.
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Personally, I think it is because of the liberals view that the US is no longer a single country, but a member of a world government, therefore the rest of the world is a part of the US. I noticed that during the election campaigning, a lot of the liberals were saying that it didn't matter that Obama wasn't a natural born citizen because he was running for President of the world, that he was going to run the world so everyone had a right to vote for him.
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Because America has for many years dictated to the world what they can do, eat, live, spend etc, so the world now thinks its a good idea to reciprocate by letting you crazy kids know that playing with guns is a 'bad thing' and you should just play with twigs instead.

Gosh darn those Americans, they're so new at everything, we really should have let them have the manual on how things are really done.

But whatever you do, don't believe anything the Belgians tell you, just say no...
LOL.
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The problem with Americans is that they have no culture. It's just a couple of 100's of years old and they still haven't evolved from the Bill of Rights. LOL.
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Yes Belgian monkey, we know your family's hidden culture - "Seig Heil"!!
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Ben Bernanke is not a Jew? (I could name a whole list of hooked noses controlling the USA, if you want me to)

Truth hurts?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30658353


Why didn't you blame it on the whites? Bernanke is white.

You are just racist scum, you are the type that would have been controlled by Hitler, doing his bidding.

So much for evolution, you pitiful monkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30283995


Bernanke is NOT White. A Jew is NOT White.

Jews are not even human. A human has a heart, a soul and a consciousness. Jews are parasites at best. They were put here by the devil himself and their goal is to destroy the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30658353


I'll assume your parents proudly conspired with the Nazis?

I seriously hope you don't breed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30283995


My parents? Not sure what they have to do with the Nazis. Could you elaborate?

You don't have to be a Nazi to see what Jews are doing to the world and what ultimate goal is.

As for breeding, you're too late. ;)
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You had your guys turn. Butt out.
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Probably because of the fact that you are a bunch of tv-snacking, over-weight arseholes, who's military are such a bunch of cowards that they use drones to kill children in countries like Pakistan - ON A WEEKLY FUCKING BASIS.


Your national hypocrisy is ONLY eclipsed by your national ignorance.


Sheesh!
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Because America has for many years dictated to the world what they can do, eat, live, spend etc, so the world now thinks its a good idea to reciprocate by letting you crazy kids know that playing with guns is a 'bad thing' and you should just play with twigs instead.

Gosh darn those Americans, they're so new at everything, we really should have let them have the manual on how things are really done.

But whatever you do, don't believe anything the Belgians tell you, just say no...
LOL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30243755


The problem with Americans is that they have no culture. It's just a couple of 100's of years old and they still haven't evolved from the Bill of Rights. LOL.
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Yes Belgian monkey, we know your family's hidden culture - "Seig Heil"!!
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Sieg Heil, my friend.

How much for the nose job? ;)
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Why didn't you blame it on the whites? Bernanke is white.

You are just racist scum, you are the type that would have been controlled by Hitler, doing his bidding.

So much for evolution, you pitiful monkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30283995


Bernanke is NOT White. A Jew is NOT White.

Jews are not even human. A human has a heart, a soul and a consciousness. Jews are parasites at best. They were put here by the devil himself and their goal is to destroy the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30658353


I'll assume your parents proudly conspired with the Nazis?

I seriously hope you don't breed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30283995


My parents? Not sure what they have to do with the Nazis. Could you elaborate?

You don't have to be a Nazi to see what Jews are doing to the world and what ultimate goal is.

As for breeding, you're too late. ;)
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If you are teaching your children hate, it would be better if they died in a fire.
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Bernanke is NOT White. A Jew is NOT White.

Jews are not even human. A human has a heart, a soul and a consciousness. Jews are parasites at best. They were put here by the devil himself and their goal is to destroy the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30658353


I'll assume your parents proudly conspired with the Nazis?

I seriously hope you don't breed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30283995


My parents? Not sure what they have to do with the Nazis. Could you elaborate?

You don't have to be a Nazi to see what Jews are doing to the world and what ultimate goal is.

As for breeding, you're too late. ;)
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If you are teaching your children hate, it would be better if they died in a fire.
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Ahhh Jews and their eternal genocidal tendencies.
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I'll assume your parents proudly conspired with the Nazis?

I seriously hope you don't breed.
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My parents? Not sure what they have to do with the Nazis. Could you elaborate?

You don't have to be a Nazi to see what Jews are doing to the world and what ultimate goal is.

As for breeding, you're too late. ;)
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If you are teaching your children hate, it would be better if they died in a fire.
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Ahhh Jews and their eternal genocidal tendencies.
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Are you thinking that I'd be insulted by you calling me Jewish?
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HOW'S THIS FOR SOME FOREIGN POLICY AGAINST THE USA?!!!

RED DAWN: ASIAN MILITARY INVASION OF USA?


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A few years back I read the story of an American woman who ran a business in Hong Kong. She fired one of the Chinese workers, who went into a rage [probably justifiable] against the forces of western corporate imperialism. He told her with full assurace that one day China would stage a massive military invasion of the USA. They would flood into the coast in the millions in massive wave after wave of invaders. They expected heavy losses, however the living soldiers would simply walk over the bodies of their dead comerades, and continue the battle. They would be like a massive wave of army ants, unstoppable [consider that Red China's active military numbers well over 5 million with tens of millions of "reserves", whereas the U.S.A.'s active military force numbers less than one million, and most of these are entabgled in foreign U.N. "peace keeping" operations. This does not include Russia, Cuba, the Arab League or any other nation that might choose to side with China in a military invasion of the USA]. Eventually, according to this former Chinese employee, the Americans would eventually run out of bullets and the invaders would prevail as a result of sheer numbers. Shades of Revelation chapter 18?

Actually, while investigating this possibility, I have discovered that there have been MANY OTHERS who have predicted an inevitable global showdown between the forces of Communism and Capitalism, and their respective 'World Order' agendas. Here are some of the claims/prophecies/visions and so on that I have come across to date. This seems to involve the use BY a Euro-American New World Order agenda of Russian and Chinese U.N. troops to help bring the USA into subjection to a Capitalist based "New World Order". However based on information I have heard through the "grapevine", Russia and China may merely be towing the party line of the "New World Order" for NOW, in order to establish a foothold in the USA through the U.N. "Trojan Horse", however once inside they will apparently dump the U.N. agenda and anything to do with the Euro-American based "New World Order" and implement their OWN agenda of a Sino-Russian based "Red World Order" [if you will], in that the old Communist factions of China and Russia will NEVER submit themselves to a New World Order that is centered outside of Asia, nor one that is run by capitalist western international banking empires. So then, determine what you will regarding what follows:



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Excerpt from George Washington's angelic vision at Valley Forge in 1777, of World War III and a military invasion of the USA, as related by: Wesley Bradshaw

"...And again I heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' At this, the dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, Asia, and Africa. Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene. From each of these countries arose thick, black clouds that were soon joined into one. And throughout this mass, there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men, who, moving with the cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America, which country was enveloped in the volume of cloud. And I dimly saw these vast armies devastate the whole country, and burn the villages, towns and cities that I beheld springing up.

"As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of swords, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat., I again heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast.

"Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shone the word 'Union,' and who bore our national flag in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were well-nigh overcome, but who immediately taking courage again closed up their broken ranks and renewed the battle. Again, amid the fearful noise of the conflict, I heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.'

"As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark cloud rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious.

"Then once more I beheld the villages, towns and cities, springing up where I had seen them before, while the bright angel, plating the azure standard he had brought in the midst of them, cried with a loud voice: 'While the stars remain, and the heavens send down dew upon the earth, so long shall the Union last.' And taking from his brow the crown on which was blazoned the word 'Union,' he placed it upon the Standard, while the people, kneeling down, said 'Amen.'



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From: Don A.

...Russian and Chinese forces are also very active in Canada. They are re-building and strengthening railroad tracks for the anticipated heavy use of railway transportation of incoming military personnel from the west coast (both Russian and Chinese forces) as well as transporting military vehicles and armaments and food supplies. New Tracks are also being laid between border states and Canada. Those people who are arrested as resisters or dissidents will also be transported in specially prepared boxcars to the death camps already established near the border, such as the one near Cut Bank, MT, (see report titled - The Death Camp of Cut Bank, Montana.) The death camp outside of Cut Bank has been conveniently located right off a major AMTRAK express line in the anticipation of transporting resisters and dissidents conveniently to their deaths by rail. Reports have been received form INTEL sources nationwide which indicate that certain boxcars are quietly being renovated from the inside so that they can be used for prisoner transport to such death camps, [Editor's Note: While I Have no proof of these reports, they do match Bible prophecy - so I include them here. In addition, I have heard this report from several credible sources. " In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established."]...

In anticipation of the coming invasion from Russia and China, Canada has even gone so far as to disband it's Western coast guard divisions, thus they are open to amphibious invasion forces. According to our veteran intelligence source in New England, the Chinese are very much anticipating an amphibious invasion of America from the West. This was openly evidenced recently through the presentation of a documentary report over the BBC television in London which detailed amphibious forces practicing war maneuvers and strategy in the Formosa Straits.

When BBC newsmen were permitted to interview these soldiers in training, they repeatedly asked them the same question. "What are you preparing to use this training for?" The shocking, consistent reply was: "FOR THE INVASION OF AMERICA!" When it became clear that the gaff in security was created by airing this broadcast over television in England, its scheduled re-broadcast for the next day was hastily canceled. (Speculate no more on the suspicious suicide of Admiral Michael Borda... I was informed that he was terminated because of his refusal to cooperate in the covert plan by our traitorous NWO forces within our own government to assist in the coming invasion of America. When he refused to go along with the plan to covertly bring Chinese forces into America thru the use of our own Navy vessels, orders were given from high to terminate him.)



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From: Marlys Hardcastle

...Some years ago while I lived near Portland, Oregon, I had a dream in which I saw asian soldiers with faces of iron attacking Astoria, Oregon, 50 miles away, and killing everyone in sight. People were stepping to their front doors to see what the noise was about and were suddenly killed. The number of soldiers was spectacular. Their mercilessness shocking...demonic. Many others have had the same dream.



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From: Dumitru Duduman

I prayed. then went to bed. I was still awake, when suddenly I heard a trumpet sound. A voice cried out to me, "Stand!"

In my vision, I was in America. I walked out out of home, and began to look for the one who had spoken to me. As I looked, I saw three men dressed alike. Two of the men carried weapons. One of the armed men came to me. "I woke you to show you what is to come," he said. "Come with me."

I didn't know where I was being taken, but when we reached a certain place he said, "Stop here!"

A pair of binoculars was handed to me, and I was told to look through them.

"Stand there, don't move, and look," he continued. "You will see what they are saying, and what they are preparing for America."

As I was looking, I saw a great light. A dark cloud appeared over it. I saw the president of Russia, a short, chubby man, who said he was the president of China, and two others. the last two also said where they were from, but I did not understand. However, I gathered they were part of Russian controlled territory. The men stepped out of the cloud.

The Russian president began to speak to the Chinese one. "I will give you the land with all the people, but you must free Taiwan of the Americans. Do not fear, we will attack them from behind."

A voice said to me, "Watch where the Russians penetrate America." Then I saw these words being written: Alaska, Minnesota, Florida.

Then the man spoke again," When America goes to war with China, the Russians will strike without warning."

The other two presidents spoke, "We, too, will fight for you." Each had a place already planned as a point of attack. All of them shook hands and hugged. Then they all signed a contract.

One of them said, "We're sure that Korea and Cuba will be on our side, too. Without a doubt, together, we can destroy America."

The president of Russia began to speak insistently, "Why let ourselves be led by the Americans? Why not rule the world ourselves? They have to be kicked out of Europe, too! Then I could do as I please with Europe!"

The man standing beside me said, "This is what you saw: they act as friends, and say they respect the treaties made together. But everything I've shown you is how it will REALLY happen. You must tell them what is being planned against America. Then, when it comes to pass, the people will remember the words the Lord has spoken."

"Who are you?" I asked. "I am the protector of America. America's sin has reached God. He will allow this destruction, for He can no longer stand such wickedness. God, however, still has people that worship Him with a clean heart as they do His work. He has prepared a heavenly army to save these people."

As I looked, a great army,well armed and dressed in white, appeared before me. "Do you see that?" the man asked. "This army will go to battle to save My chosen ones. Then, the difference between the Godly and the ungodly will be evident.



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From: Zelma Kirkpatrick

In 1954 and written then. I was almost afraid to tell my vision of war and invasion in America; so I called Brother Roy Johnson and asked him if he thought I ought, and he said I should as no doubt God had given it as a warning, but now a lot of people got stirred up and left the coast, and I have been told that they are laying the blame to me, saying I told them to go. But Jesus knows the truth, and that is all that really matters. I only hope it doesn't hurt my ministry for Jesus' sake. I'd hate for my friends that I love to think such a thing. I only told what God showed me and then told the people to pray.

I was praying at home before I ever went to South Bend, Washington, and God spoke to me in prophecy and said, "You will see what they see, hear what they hear, and you will sit among them and be astonished seven days, and you will put your hand over your mouth." I couldn't understand what He meant, but I never once doubted that it was from God; and it was, for it came to pass.

I had the first vision two nights before going. It was in the night before I had gone to sleep when I saw a big relief map of the USA––no states marked off and just in colors of greens and tans. Then I saw a black strip come on the West Coast as black as black paint. It came quickly, like taking a paintbrush and making a quick stripe down the west border from Seattle to lower California. Then it began to spread slowly like ink in a blotter, and I cried out, "What is it, Lord?" for I could not understand it and did not think of war. Then all at once the word "invasion" I heard, I believe in an audible voice. I said, "Lord, will they take all of America?" And He answered, no, that it would take the western states. In fact, the exact words were, "They will not be stopped until they reach the Middle West."

I woke my husband and told him He did not want me to go to South Bend, but I felt I must go to South Bend and went. I was not afraid. In fact, I told him this: "If it's God, He will confirm it. If not, I don't want to listen."

So I forgot it entirely the first two weeks in South Bend. The third week I wakened out of a sound sleep as if someone had shaken me roughly. Then I saw the terrible war. The soldiers were Chinese and a few Russians. They were dressed in red coats and caps and light khaki trousers, almost white. They ran in a sort of hop-skip way, and they squealed as they fought. They looked to be in a fiendish flee. They would plunge their bayonets in the people's belly and rip them up. They were devils. It was fiendish hell turned loose.

This time I did not intend to tell it either, but I called Brother Johnson, and he said to go ahead. I still didn't intend to tell it, but on Monday eve at Aberdeen fellowship meeting I told it, and seven Holy Ghost-filled people, the best I can remember the number, came and told me visions of the same. For one solid week people came, and there was such a stir that I found myself astonished, almost afraid to speak and finally caught myself with my hand covering my mouth as God had said, and I was determined not to mention it again; and I saw a third vision of Christian martyrs and remembered what God had said, and that's how it went. The vision of the saints suffering was the worst, and I can never forget it––torture and rape and everything terrible.

When I came home and told Kirk, he said, "We will leave the coast." I cried and begged him not to go. I told him God was our refuge and strength, and he said this: "God showed you what to do. Do you think He will bless us if you don't obey Him?" And moreover he said, "Everything you have ever told me came to pass, so why should this fail?"

So I prayed. I said, "God, if you want us to go, sell my house for me." I'd had it in five realtors' hands in the past three years, and it hadn't sold. I said, "Sell it soon if it's you." I listed it one day, and it sold the next.

Now, I am not telling people what to do. I only know that God directed my move and told me many would die; many would flee; and some would live through the war. One thing I know: I believe this to have come from God, so much so that I'd stake my life on it. I do not know when, but I do know it is coming.

I never told the visions at Sioux City, but a lady came and told how God gave her a vision of troops being sent west by the trainload and by bus over a pavement that was not as yet built when she saw it––but is now built right where she saw it in her vision.



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From:Tom Heward

Dream: WEST COAST INVASION - HEARTBREAK & SEPARATION (received September 27th, 1990 Thursday, having just moved from Tulsa, Oklahoma to Novato, California)

dream: I saw George Bush and he was standing in front of a white tent. I can't say he was doing anything.

In the next scene I was called up to this high-rise mansion or called up to this complex area and I was told that my mother had died. I was issued a rifle and I had to search around for ammunition. I was only given a limited amount of ammunition and I was given a rifle. Then it was impressed upon me that I needed to go out and defend the coast. I went out along the California Coast and there were enemy soldiers coming in "IN THE HORDES" to take over the country. On this same beach I saw a young boy in the distance who appeared to be my son and who was running frantically toward me thinking I was his dad. As we got closer together and could clearly recognize one another I realized that he was not my son and he saw that I was not his father. We were both grieved and heartbroken, in this instance, because we, like others, had experienced separation from our families and loved ones.

In the next scene there were very long trains with open box cars having blue rubberized vinyl covers. Inside one of these boxcars, with the blue rubberized vinyl covers, were my wife and two children. They were real cold, and they were being transported to some location like Siberia where they were to be given a place to live. The place where they were to live looked much like the large apartment complexes built all over Germany after World War II. They really weren't that bad, but it was not an individual home like you would find in the United States, rather, it was more like the living quarters found in a European Country.

In this dream, my wife, who in reality is quite slim, was very heavy set with freckles on her face and a scarf on her head. She looked very much like a Russian Woman. My wife actually appeared more than heavy set, she actually appeared to be pregnant.

Once again, at the end of the dream, there was much separation of families between the fathers and mothers and the children with much heartbreak and grief.



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From: Celia R. Okhuysen

I must also add that I received further visions, dreams and prophecies in abbreviated format on the same subject by e-mail which unfortunately are not posted on the Web. One particular e-mail was on a brief excerpt of a book entitled "Destiny of America" by Timothy G. Snodgrass (Prophetic Intelligence Network, P. O. Box 1242, Bend, OR 97709). He outlines one particular vision in which he saw a nuclear attack on America. He details the ensuing death, by radiation, of many people while many others "wandered aimlessly, having a look of hopelessness and death written on their faces." Famine and poverty were everywhere. He was carried in the Spirit throughout the country to witness America's post-nuclear attack and destruction, particularly California. He also speaks of the "war in the heavens." There were "many clashes and dogfights with the Chinese in the air." He also saw Chinese troops "landing on our shores and gathering people into camps." (See ARTICLESEquot;The Coming American Holocaust") He gives a strong, graphic account of everything shown him which lines up with many of the visions and dreams referred to here.



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[TheEagle-L] Re: Vision of China

By nanoc@postoffice.swbell.net

I have had dreams of fighting the Chinese soldiers. In one dreem when I was a teen, I was in a zodiac boat with other people in camoflage going down a river [in the U.S.?]. We saw a tin shack with a radio tower next to it. We went in the shack to look at the equipment. I saw a patrol boat with Chinese soldiers coming up the river. I quickly got some wire and hooked the wire to the door and the other end to a large battery in the shack and aimed my rifle at the door. As soon as heard a scream I shot trough the door and the recoil of the rifle woke me up. And I had another dream involving Chinese soldiers I was on a highway walking when I came across burned vehicles and other sorts of debris. I saw a Chinese soldier standing up above a crowd of people saying to surrender to us and you will have a better life. I came across a 50Cal. machine gun in one of the overturned trucks and I could only find 3 rounds and they were chained together. I loaded the gun and fired on the soldier and I woke up. These dreams were strange. I had these dreams before I knew about China and what a threat they [may be] to the U.S. I don't have dreams about killing ether except in these two dreems. And I don't fantasize about killing.

Conan C. Harris



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From: Gail Smith's Story

...U. S. INVADED: Shortly after the second earthquake the United States will be attacked by invading forces. Russia will invade the East coast and China the West coast. The invasion will include missile attacks. She was shown that the invasion would occur when people were eating and drinking which Gail believes to be Thanksgiving, but possibly Christmas. There will be nuclear attacks on both coasts, Las Vegas, and perhaps in Utah. [Note: This is supposed to take place following an October Wall Street economic COLLAPSE, which will be followed by a long-lasting quake 10 days later, and a MAJOR quake that will break many dams 15 days following the first quake. She saw the invasion taking place near or shortly after the second quake. 3 1/2 years after the first two quakes, two more MEGA-QUAKES will hit that will shake the entire planet and will kill millions and literally cause whole mountain ranges to rise and fall].

...Many, including Isaiah and Gayle, have been shown the invasion of the US by Russia on the east coast and China on the west coast. Isaiah says that the invading forces, after accomplishing great destruction will be stopped by divine intervention and themselves destroyed &/or driven back. One man was told that the invasion would occur after the US ships troops to Korea. [Note: Gail has also stated that she has had dreams/visions of what may be destined to be the greatest military ground battle in the history of the world, which will take place in the Nevada desert between Eastern and Western military forces].



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From: Dan Evehema

[Hopi Prophecy]: "...The liberators will come in from the west with great force. They will drop down from the sky like rain. They will have no mercy. We must not get on the house tops to watch. They will shake us by our ears, like children who have been bad. This will be the final decisive battle between good and evil. This battle will cleanse the heart of people and restore our Mother Earth from illness, and the wicked will be gotten rid of."



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The following is from Kathy Kritz, and was submitted to the Berean Bible School's Prophetic Mailing List [now inactive!?]:

29 May, 1997

Dear Vanguard;

I wanted to share what I have been seeing traveling from our home to our church for the past six months. After reading about the different reports coming in I thought this would be the right timing, I have been asking the Lord what this means. I have been seeing (but wasn't revealed the meaning) except it was China taking over different pockets of the USA.

My family and I live about 40 miles to our church so we have to drive every Sunday to get there. For the past 6 months or so whenever we get to a certain area I begin to see these soldiers in black pants with red jackets, black boots with some kind of emblem on their lapel. (I cannot see the emblems impression yet I know it plays a significant role in identification and time). Anyway these soldiers are scattered in groups where they have taken over this area (roughly covering an area of about two small cities population).

I just see them standing around but sense they are from China and this has been a takeover of this area. There are no Americans in sight but a sense of devastation and imprisonment all about this area of Americans and homes being confiscated. That is all I have but it occurs at the same place everytime. We live about 40 miles south of Nashville, Tn and our church is approximately 2 miles from Nashville. The Lord has also confirmed this through my son which is 13. He has dreams of us being in underground caves fighting the Chinese, my husband as well has had dreams of our family being in the mountains fighting gorilla warfare from enemy forces. They are too much to go into but the Lord usually gives the dreams to them out of the blue. Of course my son does not evaluate them, he just wakes up sometimes and tells me Mom let me tell you about my dream, and it is usually prophetic in nature of what the Lord is showing me as well as my husband. We try not to focus on the dreams so that my son will not manufacture them. Actually we do not even talk much about it but listen to what he says in the dream and take it to the Lord later by ourselves.

Kathy

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