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# HOW TO "MOVE" THE MOON --- Holy Shit the Moon is a Hologram!!!

DMTHC

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12/23/2012 08:18 PM
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Re: HOW TO "MOVE" THE MOON --- Holy Shit the Moon is a Hologram!!!
Many people (HAM radio enthusiasts) have bounced radio waves off the Moon.
Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

Least I'm learning some new things today

As the albedo (reflecting power of a surface) of the Moon is very low (maximally 12% but usually closer to 7%), and the path loss over the 770,000 kilometre return distance is extreme (around 250 to 310 dB depending on VHF-UHF band used, modulation format and Doppler shift effects), high power (more than 100 watts) and high-gain antennas (more than 20 dB) must be used.
In practice, this limits the use of this technique to the spectrum at VHF and above.
The Moon must be above the horizon in order for EME communications to be possible.

Light and radio waves are both electromagnetic waves. They are simply at different frequencies/wavelengths. Human eyes can perceive only a small fraction of the different wavelengths that are out there. Radio waves have a longer wavelength (or lower frequency) than visible light. EM wavelengths range from the size of a mountain or greater to the size of a single atom, while we can only see roughly 380 nm (violet) to 750 nm (red) wavelengths. Wavelength is inversely proportional to frequency such that the higher wavelengths have lower frequencies (since all EM waves travel at the speed of light, or 3x10^8 meters per second). Almost everything in the universe produces an EM wave at one wavelength or another, including you :)

Quoting: DMTHC

I've heard it is possible to get a return froma laser without the retroreflector but it requires a higher power pulse and gets a weak diffuse return.
Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

Have a read through the links I posted on the previous page- Some interesting points. If you could find out where you heard that that would be great thanks :)- I'm not saying its not possible I'm just saying personally haven't found anything saying it is. I think the moon is real but why cut out all possibilities. I am a firm beliver of anything being possible

2nd picture is actually the other laser (seen in the first) just appears to originate off the moon. Cool photo though! 3000kj lasers.

Let me let you in on a little secrete of mine, as far as god goes I don't believe in your kind- I think we all god just gotter look deeper inside, that's probably what your bible means by you seek and you find.
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12/23/2012 09:05 PM
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Re: HOW TO "MOVE" THE MOON --- Holy Shit the Moon is a Hologram!!!
I seriously hope that some of you nutbags never have children...
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No doubt!
Weasel_Turbine

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12/23/2012 09:20 PM
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Re: HOW TO "MOVE" THE MOON --- Holy Shit the Moon is a Hologram!!!
Many people (HAM radio enthusiasts) have bounced radio waves off the Moon.
Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

Least I'm learning some new things today

As the albedo (reflecting power of a surface) of the Moon is very low (maximally 12% but usually closer to 7%), and the path loss over the 770,000 kilometre return distance is extreme (around 250 to 310 dB depending on VHF-UHF band used, modulation format and Doppler shift effects), high power (more than 100 watts) and high-gain antennas (more than 20 dB) must be used.
In practice, this limits the use of this technique to the spectrum at VHF and above.
The Moon must be above the horizon in order for EME communications to be possible.

Light and radio waves are both electromagnetic waves. They are simply at different frequencies/wavelengths. Human eyes can perceive only a small fraction of the different wavelengths that are out there. Radio waves have a longer wavelength (or lower frequency) than visible light. EM wavelengths range from the size of a mountain or greater to the size of a single atom, while we can only see roughly 380 nm (violet) to 750 nm (red) wavelengths. Wavelength is inversely proportional to frequency such that the higher wavelengths have lower frequencies (since all EM waves travel at the speed of light, or 3x10^8 meters per second). Almost everything in the universe produces an EM wave at one wavelength or another, including you :)

Quoting: DMTHC

I've heard it is possible to get a return froma laser without the retroreflector but it requires a higher power pulse and gets a weak diffuse return.
Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

Have a read through the links I posted on the previous page- Some interesting points. If you could find out where you heard that that would be great thanks :)- I'm not saying its not possible I'm just saying personally haven't found anything saying it is. I think the moon is real but why cut out all possibilities. I am a firm beliver of anything being possible

2nd picture is actually the other laser (seen in the first) just appears to originate off the moon. Cool photo though! 3000kj lasers.

Quoting: DMTHC

It has been brought up by some on this forum to deny that the retroreflectors are even on the Moon. It was done in the early 60's and as I mentioned before they had to use a much higher powered laser pulse and got a much more diffuse return. The retroreflector improves the accuracy of the distance measurement quite a bit.
If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law
DMTHC

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12/23/2012 09:33 PM
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Re: HOW TO "MOVE" THE MOON --- Holy Shit the Moon is a Hologram!!!
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Least I'm learning some new things today

As the albedo (reflecting power of a surface) of the Moon is very low (maximally 12% but usually closer to 7%), and the path loss over the 770,000 kilometre return distance is extreme (around 250 to 310 dB depending on VHF-UHF band used, modulation format and Doppler shift effects), high power (more than 100 watts) and high-gain antennas (more than 20 dB) must be used.
In practice, this limits the use of this technique to the spectrum at VHF and above.
The Moon must be above the horizon in order for EME communications to be possible.

Light and radio waves are both electromagnetic waves. They are simply at different frequencies/wavelengths. Human eyes can perceive only a small fraction of the different wavelengths that are out there. Radio waves have a longer wavelength (or lower frequency) than visible light. EM wavelengths range from the size of a mountain or greater to the size of a single atom, while we can only see roughly 380 nm (violet) to 750 nm (red) wavelengths. Wavelength is inversely proportional to frequency such that the higher wavelengths have lower frequencies (since all EM waves travel at the speed of light, or 3x10^8 meters per second). Almost everything in the universe produces an EM wave at one wavelength or another, including you :)

Quoting: DMTHC

I've heard it is possible to get a return froma laser without the retroreflector but it requires a higher power pulse and gets a weak diffuse return.
Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

Have a read through the links I posted on the previous page- Some interesting points. If you could find out where you heard that that would be great thanks :)- I'm not saying its not possible I'm just saying personally haven't found anything saying it is. I think the moon is real but why cut out all possibilities. I am a firm beliver of anything being possible

2nd picture is actually the other laser (seen in the first) just appears to originate off the moon. Cool photo though! 3000kj lasers.

Quoting: DMTHC

It has been brought up by some on this forum to deny that the retroreflectors are even on the Moon. It was done in the early 60's and as I mentioned before they had to use a much higher powered laser pulse and got a much more diffuse return. The retroreflector improves the accuracy of the distance measurement quite a bit.
Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

Thanks, I have seen that before just would have overlooked
"Greater accuracy was achieved following the installation of a retroreflector array on July 21, 1969" it was for a completely different reason I was reading the page.

Isn't to bad of a skim.
Let me let you in on a little secrete of mine, as far as god goes I don't believe in your kind- I think we all god just gotter look deeper inside, that's probably what your bible means by you seek and you find.
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12/23/2012 09:45 PM
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Re: HOW TO "MOVE" THE MOON --- Holy Shit the Moon is a Hologram!!!
Do you realize how insane you guys sound!!!
Quoting: Anonymous 20575401

No, they don't. It's really pathetic when you get down to it. Half-wits like that should be pitied.

Any sane person would just look at them and shake their heads if they stopped them on the street and told them the moon was a hologram. It's something you'd expect to hear from a raving madman. You can't help but try and show them the error in their thinking but it doesn't help when a person is in a full blown psychosis like that and has lost touch with reality.

It gives new meaning to the term "lunatic" A tic that thinks the moon isn't real.
Anonymous Coward
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12/23/2012 09:48 PM
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Re: HOW TO "MOVE" THE MOON --- Holy Shit the Moon is a Hologram!!!

Watch the whole thing. he explains how he does it. We are living in a hologram!
Quoting: I can't believe this! 26945534

how do you explain the tides genius?
Anonymouse
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12/23/2012 10:27 PM
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Re: HOW TO "MOVE" THE MOON --- Holy Shit the Moon is a Hologram!!!

My first call of bu..s..t
Maybe some has posted this earlier, long thread.
In the first video, if you look closely the clouds move in sync with the moon image. Edit between background and foreground images, well done.
Something IS WRONG
User ID: 8736387
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12/25/2012 01:24 PM
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Re: HOW TO "MOVE" THE MOON --- Holy Shit the Moon is a Hologram!!!
Well,the video is kinda owudcbnmlsjb????
But
Me and and some buddies looked at the moon and seen two long lasers on both sides of the moon

The right and left side.

Long enough to cver the distance

And the moon could not be focused on by eye,keep in mind it was a full moon on the 22nd almost full 12 22 12.

Went online to look and the only live feed,mysteriously was focused on jupiter!??

Something has always been wrong w/the moon and its becoming evident now. Not to mention the fact its no longer in the same position.

This person is trying to tell you something,in a hidden message I think. Keep your eye on the moon!! Im very serious.

It didnt come to mind that it may have been moved and now a hologram is there...that woould be a stretch!! thats alot of light to create.But u never know
User ID: 8736387
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12/25/2012 01:31 PM
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Re: HOW TO "MOVE" THE MOON --- Holy Shit the Moon is a Hologram!!!
THIS IS REAL!

Read the first few chapters you wont be able to stop

Ingo swann penetration

He remote viewed the moon worked for cia for 30 years
You dont work that long unless your PRODUCING REAL RESULTS
in remote viewing

This book is 300 to 500\$ and is rare to find.
Hrry and read before it gets taken down.!!!!

MINDBLOWING!!

Something IS WRONG
User ID: 8736387
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12/25/2012 01:34 PM
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Keep in mind that book is from 1970s

His remote viewing is a scientific process acccepted in the science community but under the table.Sad that it cant get onto the books ...and the reason is cause the elites dont want you to know you have the ability to do this
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 30844366
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12/28/2012 01:03 PM
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Re: HOW TO "MOVE" THE MOON --- Holy Shit the Moon is a Hologram!!!
Motion tracking in a nutshell. The motion tracking hides the tilt of the camera therefore creating the illusion of a moving moon.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1154758

It would only be real if it worked with no camera...the fact that you need a camera and you have to move the camera back a forth up and down shows this is nothing more then a camera trick. Although the info on our own bodies electromagnetism is partly true and we do have amazing potential...I fear this video is disinfo bs...
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10883673

Sometimes, you need an observer...

Anonymous Coward
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12/28/2012 01:07 PM
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Re: HOW TO "MOVE" THE MOON --- Holy Shit the Moon is a Hologram!!!
Wow, this went 8 pages in one day and then nothing....

Did anyone even TRY it? Shills included......nobody? You guys are scared, huh? It's ok, I guesss. Now, stop being sissies!
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12/28/2012 03:04 PM
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Re: HOW TO "MOVE" THE MOON --- Holy Shit the Moon is a Hologram!!!
Try WHAT?

In an hour-long video, the OP still can't seem to make it clear what he is actually doing.

Maybe you could explain the experiment in duplicatable form, since you seem so sure...
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04/02/2013 04:41 PM
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