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A question for Christians

 
Anonymous Coward
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A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
So if he forsakes his own son in death
Man is basicallyy screwed
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If you read the book for what the words have to say. You will always be just as confused as all the other religions and followers.
"Do not attempt to accomplish greater results by a greater effort of your little understanding, but by a greater understanding of your little effort. The greater your understanding of the power within yourself, the less effort you need to make in order to achieve.
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Re: A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
So if he forsakes his own son in death
Man is basicallyy screwed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


Jesus felt the weight of sin and death at that moment, and I can only speculate that the Father had to withdrawal from Jesus or else He couldn't die.

The Father had to allow it to finish what needed to be accomplished and allow Jesus to die so we could be saved.

That is why.
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com

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2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

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Well most of the bible deals mans abandonment f god and god abandoning man

It explains why he hasn't been seen again for thousands of years
Yet 2000 odd years ago he was appearing and stepping in to disputes and stuff on a regular basis
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Well most of the bible deals mans abandonment f god and god abandoning man

It explains why he hasn't been seen again for thousands of years
Yet 2000 odd years ago he was appearing and stepping in to disputes and stuff on a regular basis
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


He is going to appear again very soon.
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"Te​ll them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

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2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

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One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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So if he forsakes his own son in death
Man is basicallyy screwed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


Yes, man killed the firstborn of God´s children on Earth. You are screwed rightly.
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Well most of the bible deals mans abandonment f god and god abandoning man

It explains why he hasn't been seen again for thousands of years
Yet 2000 odd years ago he was appearing and stepping in to disputes and stuff on a regular basis
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


God stopped talking with his people once he sent Jesus.

But I also feel that in the near future, that we may not have another chance to get to know God.
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Re: A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
So if he forsakes his own son in death
Man is basicallyy screwed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


Jesus felt the weight of sin and death at that moment, and I can only speculate that the Father had to withdrawal from Jesus or else He couldn't die.

The Father had to allow it to finish what needed to be accomplished and allow Jesus to die so we could be saved.

That is why.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The world is worse now then 2000 years ago
If Christ died for the sins committed back then, they re nothing compared to the sins committed today

Ezekiel 8:12

12 He said to me, “Son of man, have you seen what the elders of Israel are doing in the darkness, each at the shrine of his own idol? They say, ‘The Lord does not see us; the Lord has forsaken the land.’”
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Re: A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
So if he forsakes his own son in death
Man is basicallyy screwed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981



God has NOT abandoned man, He would never do that.

Jesus experienced what it was like, to be abandoned as a human, on the cross, making himself one with us, and making it possible for the laws of justice to allow us eternal life.

God withdrew his presence from him at that point, and as a human being, Jesus still gave him his obedience and his life -
'into your hands I commend my spirit'.
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Re: A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
So if he forsakes his own son in death
Man is basicallyy screwed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


Jesus felt the weight of sin and death at that moment, and I can only speculate that the Father had to withdrawal from Jesus or else He couldn't die.

The Father had to allow it to finish what needed to be accomplished and allow Jesus to die so we could be saved.

That is why.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The world is worse now then 2000 years ago
If Christ died for the sins committed back then, they re nothing compared to the sins committed today

Ezekiel 8:12

12 He said to me, “Son of man, have you seen what the elders of Israel are doing in the darkness, each at the shrine of his own idol? They say, ‘The Lord does not see us; the Lord has forsaken the land.’”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


He died for all people, for the ones back then and the ones today.

Sin is sin. It was sin back then, and it's sin today. He died so we can be forgiven of our sins and be reconciled to the Father through Jesus.
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com

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"Te​ll them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
____________________________

A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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Re: A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


You don't understand that He took our place?

God forsook Him so that He would not forsake us.
John 3:16 is Right
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Re: A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
So if he forsakes his own son in death
Man is basicallyy screwed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


So, what's the question?
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Re: A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


You don't understand that He took our place?

God forsook Him so that He would not forsake us.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


If he had not left why he is to come back?
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Re: A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


You don't understand that He took our place?

God forsook Him so that He would not forsake us.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


If he had not left why he is to come back?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975



To enact a general judgement on humanity and establish his Kingdom subsequently.
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Re: A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


You don't understand that He took our place?

God forsook Him so that He would not forsake us.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


If he had not left why he is to come back?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975



To enact a general judgement on humanity and establish his Kingdom subsequently.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The point was: he did leave.
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Re: A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
So if he forsakes his own son in death
Man is basicallyy screwed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


Jesus felt the weight of sin and death at that moment, and I can only speculate that the Father had to withdrawal from Jesus or else He couldn't die.

The Father had to allow it to finish what needed to be accomplished and allow Jesus to die so we could be saved.

That is why.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The world is worse now then 2000 years ago
If Christ died for the sins committed back then, they re nothing compared to the sins committed today

Ezekiel 8:12

12 He said to me, “Son of man, have you seen what the elders of Israel are doing in the darkness, each at the shrine of his own idol? They say, ‘The Lord does not see us; the Lord has forsaken the land.’”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


He died for all people, for the ones back then and the ones today.

Sin is sin. It was sin back then, and it's sin today. He died so we can be forgiven of our sins and be reconciled to the Father through Jesus.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


That's basically a cop out
Your saying we HAVE to sin in order to be forgiven and then god will accept us
Yet the bible basically tells us we shouldn't sin in order for god to accept us and that gods patience is short and shouldn't be tested
God doesn't like sinners he casts them out
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Look, if he does so, no man would live.
He gave you your breath.
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Re: A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
So if he forsakes his own son in death
Man is basicallyy screwed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


So, what's the question?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13168374


It's supposed to read has god abandoned man
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Well most of the bible deals mans abandonment f god and god abandoning man

It explains why he hasn't been seen again for thousands of years
Yet 2000 odd years ago he was appearing and stepping in to disputes and stuff on a regular basis
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


GOD gave man a time period 6000 years, after that Man's rein is over....

Now we know from the Hebrew Calendar were almost at 6000, however we do not know how long Adam and Eve were actually in the Garden...
Susie

If you don't stand for your faith, then you won't stand at all....
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Jesus felt the weight of sin and death at that moment, and I can only speculate that the Father had to withdrawal from Jesus or else He couldn't die.

The Father had to allow it to finish what needed to be accomplished and allow Jesus to die so we could be saved.

That is why.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The world is worse now then 2000 years ago
If Christ died for the sins committed back then, they re nothing compared to the sins committed today

Ezekiel 8:12

12 He said to me, “Son of man, have you seen what the elders of Israel are doing in the darkness, each at the shrine of his own idol? They say, ‘The Lord does not see us; the Lord has forsaken the land.’”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


He died for all people, for the ones back then and the ones today.

Sin is sin. It was sin back then, and it's sin today. He died so we can be forgiven of our sins and be reconciled to the Father through Jesus.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


That's basically a cop out
Your saying we HAVE to sin in order to be forgiven and then god will accept us
Yet the bible basically tells us we shouldn't sin in order for god to accept us and that gods patience is short and shouldn't be tested
God doesn't like sinners he casts them out
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


lol.......no. I didn't say that you have to sin, or that you should sin. You should do your best not to sin. But, you're going to sin and you need to be redeemed.

Jesus is our redeemer. God loves sinners......you're a sinner, we are all sinners. He just hates the sin because sin is rebellion and it's sin that separates us from Him. Jesus paid that price for us, He is our bridge to the Father.
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com

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"Te​ll them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
____________________________

A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

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Well most of the bible deals mans abandonment f god and god abandoning man

It explains why he hasn't been seen again for thousands of years
Yet 2000 odd years ago he was appearing and stepping in to disputes and stuff on a regular basis
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


GOD gave man a time period 6000 years, after that Man's rein is over....

Now we know from the Hebrew Calendar were almost at 6000, however we do not know how long Adam and Eve were actually in the Garden...
 Quoting: christian


+1000
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com

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"Te​ll them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
____________________________

A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

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Shoot straight Johnny
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Re: A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


You don't understand that He took our place?

God forsook Him so that He would not forsake us.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


If he had not left why he is to come back?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


In one sense, He has not left. His Spirit is still with us.

In another sense, He is going to come back physically, to overthrow the wicked rulers of this earth, and establish His kingdom.

He is coming back with ten thousand times ten thousand of His angels, and at that time every eye shall see him.

Even yours.
John 3:16 is Right
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Re: A question for Christians
God has abandoned man
Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


You don't understand that He took our place?

God forsook Him so that He would not forsake us.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


If he had not left why he is to come back?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


In one sense, He has not left. His Spirit is still with us.

In another sense, He is going to come back physically, to overthrow the wicked rulers of this earth, and establish His kingdom.

He is coming back with ten thousand times ten thousand of His angels, and at that time every eye shall see him.

Even yours.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


hf
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com

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"Te​ll them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
____________________________

A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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Pshh well I am not your typical believer. I don't go to a church or having affiliation with many christians. Forget all that stuff anyway. Just ask for the holy spirit to live in you in truth and spirit. Worship in truth and spirit. That's it nothing else. Truth and spirit.
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Well most of the bible deals mans abandonment f god and god abandoning man

It explains why he hasn't been seen again for thousands of years
Yet 2000 odd years ago he was appearing and stepping in to disputes and stuff on a regular basis
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981


GOD gave man a time period 6000 years, after that Man's rein is over....

Now we know from the Hebrew Calendar were almost at 6000, however we do not know how long Adam and Eve were actually in the Garden...
 Quoting: christian


That surely proves he has abandoned us
The world is worse now then at any point in its history
Which shows he's not bothered about it us or what happens
Basically we've been left to our own devices
And sooner or later were just gonna destroy ourselves and find out that there is nothing after this is all over
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If you took a moment to research what he was saying, you would realize that he was QUOTING a verse that told EXACTLY what was happening around the cross at that very moment. Our Savior was TEACHING us even at the moment of His death of the ACTIONS of those around the cross who were mocking Him-thus giving us and EXAMPLE of how WE would be treated by those who mock us when we are just trying to show love to those who hate us. Even in that moment when His life was slipping away, HE STILL WAS REACHING OUT TO THOSE WHO WERE KILLING HIM!! God NEVER forsook Him. In fact, He brought the darkness down (a palpable darkness that even those around the cross could FEEL) and caused evean a centurion to state "Surely, this was the Son of God!"
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
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If you are REALLY interested, the verse is Psalm 22:1
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
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Live in truth and spirit. God speaks to the ones who seek after him. Most do not and go their own way. Christianity judaism are apostate forget them both. Go in truth and spirit. I am a witness.
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Pshh well I am not your typical believer. I don't go to a church or having affiliation with many christians. Forget all that stuff anyway. Just ask for the holy spirit to live in you in truth and spirit. Worship in truth and spirit. That's it nothing else. Truth and spirit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22741000


The whole religion lot doesn't make sense
Why would we get all this suffering wars corruption starvation etc etc etc
Get lied to on a daily basis by politicians media and all that stuff

Then they just repent pray to god and Jesus forgives them and they go to heaven

The whole lot is twisted if you ask me
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You don't understand that He took our place?

God forsook Him so that He would not forsake us.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


If he had not left why he is to come back?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975



To enact a general judgement on humanity and establish his Kingdom subsequently.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The point was: he did leave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975



As a human man, he left, but he left us his spirit.
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If he had not left why he is to come back?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975



To enact a general judgement on humanity and establish his Kingdom subsequently.
 Quoting: K.Kool


The point was: he did leave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975



As a human man, he left, but he left us his spirit.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Yep, the Holy Spirit!

hf
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com

____________________________


"Te​ll them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
____________________________

A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.

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