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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1106916 United States 12/22/2012 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God has abandoned man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him So if he forsakes his own son in death Man is basicallyy screwed Jesus felt the weight of sin and death at that moment, and I can only speculate that the Father had to withdrawal from Jesus or else He couldn't die. The Father had to allow it to finish what needed to be accomplished and allow Jesus to die so we could be saved. That is why. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1106916 United States 12/22/2012 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well most of the bible deals mans abandonment f god and god abandoning man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 It explains why he hasn't been seen again for thousands of years Yet 2000 odd years ago he was appearing and stepping in to disputes and stuff on a regular basis He is going to appear again very soon. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18726945 Australia 12/22/2012 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well most of the bible deals mans abandonment f god and god abandoning man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 It explains why he hasn't been seen again for thousands of years Yet 2000 odd years ago he was appearing and stepping in to disputes and stuff on a regular basis God stopped talking with his people once he sent Jesus. But I also feel that in the near future, that we may not have another chance to get to know God. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30443981 United Kingdom 12/22/2012 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God has abandoned man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him So if he forsakes his own son in death Man is basicallyy screwed Jesus felt the weight of sin and death at that moment, and I can only speculate that the Father had to withdrawal from Jesus or else He couldn't die. The Father had to allow it to finish what needed to be accomplished and allow Jesus to die so we could be saved. That is why. The world is worse now then 2000 years ago If Christ died for the sins committed back then, they re nothing compared to the sins committed today Ezekiel 8:12 12 He said to me, “Son of man, have you seen what the elders of Israel are doing in the darkness, each at the shrine of his own idol? They say, ‘The Lord does not see us; the Lord has forsaken the land.’” |
K.Kool User ID: 22874610 Australia 12/22/2012 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God has abandoned man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him So if he forsakes his own son in death Man is basicallyy screwed God has NOT abandoned man, He would never do that. Jesus experienced what it was like, to be abandoned as a human, on the cross, making himself one with us, and making it possible for the laws of justice to allow us eternal life. God withdrew his presence from him at that point, and as a human being, Jesus still gave him his obedience and his life - 'into your hands I commend my spirit'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1106916 United States 12/22/2012 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God has abandoned man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him So if he forsakes his own son in death Man is basicallyy screwed Jesus felt the weight of sin and death at that moment, and I can only speculate that the Father had to withdrawal from Jesus or else He couldn't die. The Father had to allow it to finish what needed to be accomplished and allow Jesus to die so we could be saved. That is why. The world is worse now then 2000 years ago If Christ died for the sins committed back then, they re nothing compared to the sins committed today Ezekiel 8:12 12 He said to me, “Son of man, have you seen what the elders of Israel are doing in the darkness, each at the shrine of his own idol? They say, ‘The Lord does not see us; the Lord has forsaken the land.’” He died for all people, for the ones back then and the ones today. Sin is sin. It was sin back then, and it's sin today. He died so we can be forgiven of our sins and be reconciled to the Father through Jesus. |
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K.Kool User ID: 22874610 Australia 12/22/2012 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God has abandoned man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him You don't understand that He took our place? God forsook Him so that He would not forsake us. If he had not left why he is to come back? To enact a general judgement on humanity and establish his Kingdom subsequently. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26268975 Slovakia 12/22/2012 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God has abandoned man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him You don't understand that He took our place? God forsook Him so that He would not forsake us. If he had not left why he is to come back? To enact a general judgement on humanity and establish his Kingdom subsequently. The point was: he did leave. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30443981 United Kingdom 12/22/2012 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God has abandoned man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him So if he forsakes his own son in death Man is basicallyy screwed Jesus felt the weight of sin and death at that moment, and I can only speculate that the Father had to withdrawal from Jesus or else He couldn't die. The Father had to allow it to finish what needed to be accomplished and allow Jesus to die so we could be saved. That is why. The world is worse now then 2000 years ago If Christ died for the sins committed back then, they re nothing compared to the sins committed today Ezekiel 8:12 12 He said to me, “Son of man, have you seen what the elders of Israel are doing in the darkness, each at the shrine of his own idol? They say, ‘The Lord does not see us; the Lord has forsaken the land.’” He died for all people, for the ones back then and the ones today. Sin is sin. It was sin back then, and it's sin today. He died so we can be forgiven of our sins and be reconciled to the Father through Jesus. That's basically a cop out Your saying we HAVE to sin in order to be forgiven and then god will accept us Yet the bible basically tells us we shouldn't sin in order for god to accept us and that gods patience is short and shouldn't be tested God doesn't like sinners he casts them out |
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christian Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 12/22/2012 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well most of the bible deals mans abandonment f god and god abandoning man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 It explains why he hasn't been seen again for thousands of years Yet 2000 odd years ago he was appearing and stepping in to disputes and stuff on a regular basis GOD gave man a time period 6000 years, after that Man's rein is over.... Now we know from the Hebrew Calendar were almost at 6000, however we do not know how long Adam and Eve were actually in the Garden... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1106916 United States 12/22/2012 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lisa*Lisa Jesus felt the weight of sin and death at that moment, and I can only speculate that the Father had to withdrawal from Jesus or else He couldn't die. The Father had to allow it to finish what needed to be accomplished and allow Jesus to die so we could be saved. That is why. The world is worse now then 2000 years ago If Christ died for the sins committed back then, they re nothing compared to the sins committed today Ezekiel 8:12 12 He said to me, “Son of man, have you seen what the elders of Israel are doing in the darkness, each at the shrine of his own idol? They say, ‘The Lord does not see us; the Lord has forsaken the land.’” He died for all people, for the ones back then and the ones today. Sin is sin. It was sin back then, and it's sin today. He died so we can be forgiven of our sins and be reconciled to the Father through Jesus. That's basically a cop out Your saying we HAVE to sin in order to be forgiven and then god will accept us Yet the bible basically tells us we shouldn't sin in order for god to accept us and that gods patience is short and shouldn't be tested God doesn't like sinners he casts them out lol.......no. I didn't say that you have to sin, or that you should sin. You should do your best not to sin. But, you're going to sin and you need to be redeemed. Jesus is our redeemer. God loves sinners......you're a sinner, we are all sinners. He just hates the sin because sin is rebellion and it's sin that separates us from Him. Jesus paid that price for us, He is our bridge to the Father. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1106916 United States 12/22/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well most of the bible deals mans abandonment f god and god abandoning man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 It explains why he hasn't been seen again for thousands of years Yet 2000 odd years ago he was appearing and stepping in to disputes and stuff on a regular basis GOD gave man a time period 6000 years, after that Man's rein is over.... Now we know from the Hebrew Calendar were almost at 6000, however we do not know how long Adam and Eve were actually in the Garden... +1000 |
Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 29552936 United Kingdom 12/22/2012 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God has abandoned man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him You don't understand that He took our place? God forsook Him so that He would not forsake us. If he had not left why he is to come back? In one sense, He has not left. His Spirit is still with us. In another sense, He is going to come back physically, to overthrow the wicked rulers of this earth, and establish His kingdom. He is coming back with ten thousand times ten thousand of His angels, and at that time every eye shall see him. Even yours. The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1106916 United States 12/22/2012 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God has abandoned man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 Even when Christ dies on the cross he asks why god has forsaken him You don't understand that He took our place? God forsook Him so that He would not forsake us. If he had not left why he is to come back? In one sense, He has not left. His Spirit is still with us. In another sense, He is going to come back physically, to overthrow the wicked rulers of this earth, and establish His kingdom. He is coming back with ten thousand times ten thousand of His angels, and at that time every eye shall see him. Even yours. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22741000 United States 12/22/2012 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pshh well I am not your typical believer. I don't go to a church or having affiliation with many christians. Forget all that stuff anyway. Just ask for the holy spirit to live in you in truth and spirit. Worship in truth and spirit. That's it nothing else. Truth and spirit. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30443981 United Kingdom 12/22/2012 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well most of the bible deals mans abandonment f god and god abandoning man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30443981 It explains why he hasn't been seen again for thousands of years Yet 2000 odd years ago he was appearing and stepping in to disputes and stuff on a regular basis GOD gave man a time period 6000 years, after that Man's rein is over.... Now we know from the Hebrew Calendar were almost at 6000, however we do not know how long Adam and Eve were actually in the Garden... That surely proves he has abandoned us The world is worse now then at any point in its history Which shows he's not bothered about it us or what happens Basically we've been left to our own devices And sooner or later were just gonna destroy ourselves and find out that there is nothing after this is all over |
Zerubbabel User ID: 30539821 United States 12/22/2012 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30443981 United Kingdom 12/22/2012 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pshh well I am not your typical believer. I don't go to a church or having affiliation with many christians. Forget all that stuff anyway. Just ask for the holy spirit to live in you in truth and spirit. Worship in truth and spirit. That's it nothing else. Truth and spirit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22741000 The whole religion lot doesn't make sense Why would we get all this suffering wars corruption starvation etc etc etc Get lied to on a daily basis by politicians media and all that stuff Then they just repent pray to god and Jesus forgives them and they go to heaven The whole lot is twisted if you ask me |
K.Kool User ID: 22874610 Australia 12/22/2012 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny You don't understand that He took our place? God forsook Him so that He would not forsake us. If he had not left why he is to come back? To enact a general judgement on humanity and establish his Kingdom subsequently. The point was: he did leave. As a human man, he left, but he left us his spirit. |
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