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# COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)

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COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)
Blue pill = December 21st, 2012
Red pill = December 16th, 2013

Before I tell you how deep the rabbit hole goes and how I cracked the TRUE end cycle completion date of the Mayan Long Count calendar, I will start with the Mayan Calendar basics. This Youtube explains it well:

"Wheels working together

The Mayan Calendar consists of three separate corresponding calendars, the Long Count, the Tzolkin (divine calendar) and the Haab (civil calendar). Time is cyclical in the calendars and a set number of days must occur before a new cycle can begin.

The three calendars are used simultaneously. The Tzolkin and the Haab identify and name the days, but not the years. The Long Count date comes first, then the Tzolkin date and last the Haab date. A typical Mayan date would read: 13.0.0.0.0 4 Ahau 8 Kumku, where 13.0.0.0.0 is the Long Count date, 4 Ahau is the Tzolkin date and 8 Kumku is the Haab date."

We don't start counting our Gregorian calendar at year 0 right???? It goes like -2 B.C, 1 B.C. 1 A.D, 2 A.D. and so on. You don't start counting the years on the day Christ was born. We skip over that zero year. It has no value! There is no zero year.

So why did these Mayan calendar researchers count zero year, thus coming up with the end date of Dec. 21st or 23rd, 2012? It makes no sense! How could they have be so stupid not to have figured this out?

They started counting at:

Aug. 11th, -3113 or 0.0.0.0.0 (4 Ahau) (ZERO YEAR) and that is how researchers arrived to the date of Dec. 21st, 2012 for the end of the 13th baktun 13.0.0.0.0 or 4 Ahau, 3 Kankin.

Not argueing that the calendar didn't start on 4 Ahau is the Tzolkin date and 8 Kumku is the Haab date or August 11, -3113 in the Gregorian calendar.

What I am pointing out is you don't start counting the Long count calendar year at 0 (just like we don't start counting our Gregorian calendar at 0 but instead we start it at year 1). Thus, the Mayan Code has now been cracked!

This is the calendar convertor tool:

In order for the cycle to be complete, the Long Count calendar has to be at the end of its cycle, and the Tzolkin has to be at the end of its cycle or 13 Ahau. It is like the gears have to be perfectly in tuned or in sync. December 21st, 2012 didn't have all gears perfectly interlocked thus it fails.

The main reason why Carl Calleman came up with his Oct. 28th, 2011 end of the Long Count date, was because it fell on 13 Ahau of the Tzolkin calendar. He stressed that 13 Ahau is very important, which is why 4 Ahau on Dec. 21st, 2012 can't be the end date saying below:

"Another equally compelling reason why December 21, 2012 cannot be the true date of completion of creation is that this day is 4 Ahau in the tzolkin count. Since the Long Count consists of exactly 7200 tzolkin rounds then the true end of creation must fall on a day that is 13 Ahau in the tzolkin count so that the tzolkin rounds even out. If we want to find out what is the real date of ending of the creation cycles we must therefore look for a day around the year 2012, which is 13 Ahau in the tzolkin count. The inscriptions in Palenque, written about a thousand years after the Long Count was devised in Izapa, seem to indicate that the date of relevance is October 28, 2011, which in fact is 13 Ahau in the tzolkin count."

Well.......Dec. 16th, 2013 is 13 Ahau also!

Calleman's theory is correct, he is just got the wrong 13 Ahau date!

To further explain:

"The Tzolkin is a repeating cycle of 260 days which is made up of a cycle of 13 being repeated 20 times. The Tzolkin is read from the top left (1 Imix), down 20 places to the bottom of the first column (7 Ahau) up to the top of the second column (8 Imix) and so on. The cycle of 13 repeats itself in such a way that, over the 260 days, all 20 of the glyphs in the key to the left of the Tzolkin appear 13 times. The 260 day cycle ends with 13 Ahau."

For the calendar to end of 4 Ahau or Dec. 21st, 2012 never made any sense to me which is why I was intrigued with Ian Lungold and Carl Calleman's theories.

13 Ahau is the highest form of completion in regards to the Tzolkin calendar and when you combine that with the 13th baktun, you get the highest form of calendar completion, interlocking the gears in the Mayan cycle. Thus, Dec. 16th, 2013 is 13 Baktun and 13 Ahau. The strongest possible completion you can possibly get! Maximum completion is when it reaches 13.0.1.0.0 or Dec. 16th, 2013! You can't get maximum calendar completion or the Long Count and Tzolkin calendar synchnocity when it reads 13.0.0.0.0 or Dec. 21st, 2012

Again, the Mayans used a 13:20 sync and this is seen in the Tzolkin calendar. The Tzolkin begins at 1 Imix, and ends on 13 Ahau and the 13:20 sync cycle is also used to figure out the katuns and baktuns as shown below:

20 kins equal 1 uinal or 20 days
18 uinals equal 1 tun or 360 days
20 tuns equal 1 katun or 7,200 days
20 katuns equal 1 baktun or 144,000 days

So I plugged in the numbers and calculated this. As soon below, the numbers clearly don't like when I take the end date of Dec. 16th, 2013 and work backwords using a 13:20 cycle sync. Here is the example below:

Dec. 16th, 2013 minus 1,872,000 days or 144,000 days x 13 baktun cycles = August 5th -3113 (13 Ahau) All 13 Batuns completed!

Dec. 16th, 2013 minus 93,600 days or 7,200 days x 13 cycle katuns = Sept. 9th, 1757 (13 Ahau) All 13 Katuns completed!

Dec. 16th, 2013 minus 4680 days or 360 days x 13 cycle tuns = Feb. 22nd, 2001 (13 Ahau) All 13 Tuns completed!

Dec. 16th, 2013 minus 260 days or 20 days x 13 cycle uinals = March 31st, 2013 (13 Ahau) All 13 Uinals completed!

You see, all the gears rotate perfectly this way. It can't be done if you compute it by Dec. 21st, 2012 because everything would fall on a 4 Ahau for the Baktun completion, the Katun completion, the Tun completion, and the Uinal completion, and we know now that this can't be the case because the end of the Tzolkin 260 day cycle is 13 Ahau, not 4 Ahau!

In order for the calendar to reach maximum competion the 20 uinals, the 20 tuns, the 20 katuns, and the 20 baktuns have to be completed in the 13 cycle, all reaching 13 Ahau. Get it?

And as shown above with my calculations, it does! Maximum completion is shown on Dec. 16th, 2013 and again can't be done for computing the date of Dec. 21st, 2012.

December 16th, 2013 (13 Ahau Maximum Completion). All 13 Ahaus line up perfectly! The Long Count and the Tzolkin perfectly interlock and sync together. It is like hitting the jackpot!

:jactkpot:

Thus, zero year shouldn't have been included figuring out the end date as shown below:

Dec 16th, 2013 13.0.1.0.0 (13 Ahau)

144,000 days earlier or 1 baktun cycle...

Sept. 13th, 1619 12.0.1.0.0 (1 Ahau)

144,000 days earlier or another baktun cycle

June 10th, 1225 11.0.1.0.0 (2 Ahau)

and so on....

March 8th, 831 10.0.1.0.0 (3 Ahau)

Dec. 3rd, 436 9.0.1.0.0 (4 Ahau)

Aug. 31st 42 8.0.1.0.0 (5 Ahau)

May 28th, -352 7.0.1.0.0 (6 Ahau)

Feb. 23rd -746 6.0.1.0.0 (7 Ahau)

Nov. 21st -1141 5.0.1.0.0 (8 Ahau)

Aug. 18th -1535 4.0.1.0.0 (9 Ahau)

May 16th -1929 3.0.1.0.0 (10 Ahau)

Feb. 10th -2323 2.0.1.0.0 (11 Ahau)

Nov. 8th -2718 1.0.1.0.0 (12 Ahau)

August 5th -3112 0.0.1.0.0 (13 Ahau) (YEAR 1)

Aug. 11th, -3113 0.0.0.0.0 (4 Ahau) (ZERO YEAR)

You can see then when it starts on August 5th, -3112 B.C. (13 Ahau) and you go baktun by baktun (144,000 days each) it goes up the ladder perfectly. 13 Ahau, 12 Ahau, 11 Ahau, 10 Ahau, and so on, until it reaches 13 cycle baktun completion on Dec. 16th, 2013 and 13 Ahau, It doesn’t equate if you compute it with the base of Dec. 21st, 2012 as shown below:

Dec 21st, 2012 13.0.0.0.0 (4 Ahau)

Sept. 18th, 1618 12.0.0.0.0 (5 Ahau)

June 15th, 1224 11.0.0.0.0 (6 Ahau)

March 13th, 830 10.0.0.0.0 (7 Ahau)

Dec. 9th, 435 9.0.0.0.0 (8 Ahau)

Sept. 5th, 41 8.0.0.0.0 (9 Ahau)

June 3rd, -353 B.C. 7.0.0.0.0 (10 Ahau)

Feb. 28th -747 B.C. 6.0.0.0.0 (11 Ahau)

Nov. 26th -1142 B.C. 5.0.0.0.0 (12 Ahau)

Aug. 23rd -1536 B.C. 4.0.0.0.0 (13 Ahau)

May 21st -1930 B.C. 3.0.0.0.0 (1 Ahau)

Feb. 16th -2324 B.C. 2.0.0.0.0 (2 Ahau)

Nov. 13th -2719 B.C. 1.0.0.0.0 (3 Ahau)

August 5th -3112 B.C. 0.0.1.0.0 (13 Ahau) (YEAR 1)

Aug. 11th, -3113 B.C. 0.0.0.0.0 (4 Ahau) (ZERO YEAR)

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Anonymous Coward (OP)
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Done with the Mayan calendar bull. Move on
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30669939

Read and understand this. This could be huge if I am correct. It makes complete sense if you can follow what I am trying to say here.

If anyone can disprove me on my theory, than I will be happy to admit I am wrong with it.

If you can't disprove me, then this could be the TRUE Mayan Calendar so called "end date" and new beginning.
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Re: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)
I came up with this theory exactly 3 years ago.

Thread: It is not 2012- It is 2013

I just remembered about it and wanted to dig this up again.
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And then it will start over, like any calendar. No doom, nothing will happen.
Quoting: Dr. Super Bowl Dave

Maybe so. The real end date that I have or the so called Armageddon or Apocalpyse date is April 4th, 2015 (Blood Red Moon) Passover day.

Thread: DAY OF THE LORD APRIL 2015 ARMAGEDDON? THE BLOOD RED MOON PASSOVER TIME CODE

I am very confident in that theory for many reasons.
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I lov how the supposed logic comes in AFTER nothing has happened. Nobody was spouting this shit before.
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I lov how the supposed logic comes in AFTER nothing has happened. Nobody was spouting this shit before.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8691221

If you could read, I came up with this theory exactly 3 years ago.

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Re: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)
Wow, just saw this! There is my date!

:great scott:

Schwenger, biggest discovery in 13 centuries, related to Mayan calendars

Susan Lynne “Serafina” SCHWENGER aka Seraf’ina
discovers Mayan Elders End Time of The 12th Grand Cycle,

13.0.1.0.0=13 Ahau 18 Mac=13th MM

and, The start of The 13th grand cycle 17 DEC 2013

Susan’s discovery relates to a greater Mayan calendar synchronized to Tzolkin of 260 day counts
and the Calendar Round of the Haab of 365 days synchronized to the Tzolkin.

These are the lowest number of days, which factor both 260 and 365 and exactly 52 Haab or Mayan years.

These 52 years so began 52 = 13 x 4 Haab before December 16th, 2013
or precisely 73 Tzolkins before December 16th, 2013;
which is a 13 Ahau date as 13.0.1.0.0.

The significance so becomes the matching of two 13 Ahau Dates
in the following details of subtracting 52 Haab,

She discovered this back in 2010 it is said. Or was it me that discovered it towards the end of 2009 and she just saw and took my research on GLP? LOL

Thread: It is not 2012- It is 2013

Interesting isn't it that this woman got to the same end and cycle Mayan Long Calendar date as I did, and apparently she came up with it in an entirely different way than me?

It is quite chilling.

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The Mayan calendar is just like any other. When it ends it starts where it ended. You know, cycles and shit and fuck-ups.
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The Mayan calendar is just like any other. When it ends it starts where it ended. You know, cycles and shit and fuck-ups.
Quoting: Libra II 1001450

Lets have some real comments here and try to debunk my theory or ask any questions. Not juvenile comments.

Again, why would these Mayan calendar researchers include a year zero for their calculations to come up with the so called end date of Dec. 21st or 23rd, 2012? It makes no sense at all. I mean this is basic type of logic here.

It would be like taking the Gregorian calendar and including a year zero to it. i.e. -2 B.C. -1 B.C. 0 Year 1 A.D. 2 A.D. etc.
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For the calendar to end of 4 Ahau or Dec. 21st, 2012 never made any sense to me which is why I was intrigued with Ian Lungold and Carl Calleman's theories.

13 Ahau is the highest form of completion in regards to the Mayan Calendar and when you combined that with the 13th baktun, you get the highest form of calendar completion, interlocking all the gears in the Mayan cycle. Thus, Dec. 16th, 2013 is 13 Baktun and 13 Ahau. The strongest possible completion you can possibly get!
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I came up with this theory exactly 3 years ago.

Thread: It is not 2012- It is 2013

I just remembered about it and wanted to dig this up again.
Quoting: Revelator Stargate

Well, I shall leave you to your theory OP.

As for me, I intend to get on with my life, all this worry about the end of the world or moving into a different dimension/age/time is wasting energy that could be better spent on living life at the moment.
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I came up with this theory exactly 3 years ago.

Thread: It is not 2012- It is 2013

I just remembered about it and wanted to dig this up again.
Quoting: Revelator Stargate

Well, I shall leave you to your theory OP.

As for me, I intend to get on with my life, all this worry about the end of the world or moving into a different dimension/age/time is wasting energy that could be better spent on living life at the moment.
Quoting: Lotus Flower

Oh I totally agree with you. But if you want to read the theory and try to understand it, then go for it.

Although I think my 2015 Blood Red Moon Passover theory could be possibly one of the most important theories that has ever been posted on GLP or the Internet in general.
Quoting: Revelator Stargate

I understand your theory RS...i GET the point of not counting '0' completely.
As ever, time will unfold and reveal :-)
I've never been able to wrap my head around ancient calenders but i admire those, like yourself that have actually immersed yourself in understanding them and calculating them, outside of the Gregorian 'time mindset'.

Well done with your work - i hope it's revealing. I've personally found the past 2 years to be extremely evolutionary...and no doubt will continue to revel in thie unfolding that is occuring.

I find it amazing that many people, especially on here, expected over the course of 1 day, for the world to change forever.

Like all processed...there's the a beginning , middle and end.

Please continue posting your findings as there are some of us here interested in hearing theories based on personal calculations - far more intriguing than 'i heard from..' predictions!

Merriest Christmas to you RS!

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I can clearly show you why the Mayan Calendar Long Count doesn't end or end its cycle on December 21st, 2012 or December 23rd, 2012. There are three gears in the Mayan calendar. The Long Count, The Haab, and the Tzolkin. All the gears need to be aligned and interlocked and it clearly doesn't for Dec. 21st or 23rd, 2012, but the three calendar gears perfectly interlock with each other on Dec. 16th, 2013. Care for me to explain more why this is the case?
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I came up with this theory exactly 3 years ago.

Thread: It is not 2012- It is 2013

I just remembered about it and wanted to dig this up again.
Quoting: Revelator Stargate

Well, I shall leave you to your theory OP.

As for me, I intend to get on with my life, all this worry about the end of the world or moving into a different dimension/age/time is wasting energy that could be better spent on living life at the moment.
Quoting: Lotus Flower

Oh I totally agree with you. But if you want to read the theory and try to understand it, then go for it.

Although I think my 2015 Blood Red Moon Passover theory could be possibly one of the most important theories that has ever been posted on GLP or the Internet in general.
Quoting: Revelator Stargate

I agree, most impressive reasearch..here is the link again for those who have eyes to see (and a brain to work out the mathematics). Thread: DAY OF THE LORD APRIL 2015 ARMAGEDDON? THE BLOOD RED MOON PASSOVER TIME CODE

Alas I see no takers here..instead I see people who are falling for 'the boy who cried wolf' scenario. Your call, their plan.

On topic, I agree with you calculations for the Mayan long count (Gregorian date). Around the same time, comet ISON makes its perihelion around the Sun.

Great work OP, keep posting your grand efforts as the research work and correlations are second to none..BRAVO!
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This comet passes right around Dec. 16th, 2013

:great scott:

COMET ELENIN could have been the deception and this could be the REAL DEAL!

(Freaking weird how he says, "so you can stock up on snacks and beverages" Do the elites know something we don't?)

Sun-Grazing Comets As Triggers For Electromagnetic Armageddon

"Large sun-grazing comets could bring on the sort of global electronics meltdown usually associated with electromagnetic pulse weapons or a full-scale nuclear exchange.

Or so says David Eichler, lead author of a forthcoming Astrophysical Journal Letters paper positing that a sun-grazing comet roughly the size of Hale-Bopp (with a nucleus some 30 kms in diameter), could trigger cosmic ray-generating shockwaves large enough to initiate a global electromagnetic Armageddon."

Looks like more people are starting to see the connections.

Waiting for ISON

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OP This past week I was listening to a man named Thomas Hughes being interviewed by Lisa Harrison on her radio show. He has some especial powers. Anyway, he said that the date was 13/13/13. Now that does not exist right? Yes, it does. The vatican changed the calendar and the names of the months, and the amount of days in each month. The old calendar was based on the moon which means that each month has 28 days and there were 13 months. So if you do the math and you make each month only have 28 days then there would be 13 months instead of 12. When I made the calculation I came up with December 15, 2013. So it appears that you might be correct. 1 day off...close enough for government work! :-) Anyway this guy is pretty cool. Just thought I let you know.
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OP This past week I was listening to a man named Thomas Hughes being interviewed by Lisa Harrison on her radio show. He has some especial powers. Anyway, he said that the date was 13/13/13. Now that does not exist right? Yes, it does. The vatican changed the calendar and the names of the months, and the amount of days in each month. The old calendar was based on the moon which means that each month has 28 days and there were 13 months. So if you do the math and you make each month only have 28 days then there would be 13 months instead of 12. When I made the calculation I came up with December 15, 2013. So it appears that you might be correct. 1 day off...close enough for government work! :-) Anyway this guy is pretty cool. Just thought I let you know.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26823460

Interesting, very interesting! That would explain why Ophiuchus is missing. That is the 13th month!

And thanks! Yeah, I know I am right!

Nobody can debunk my theory. It is December 16th, 2013 that the Long Count Mayan calendar ends and starts over again on December 17th, 2013.

How stupid could these Mayan calendar researchers have been when figuring out the Long calendar end date? It is basic common logic. They included a year 0 in their calculations, which should not have been done!
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Would you bet your life on it?
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This is a new theory (at least to me) OP, but extremely compelling if your suppositions are correct about it not being already included in the Mayan calculations. After all, you are 1-year-old at the end of your first, year, not the beginning.

Question: Western calendars are linear - they just go in a straight line forever. The Mayan calendar is cyclical. So while your theory passes for a linear calendar, couldn't it be said that the "year zero" for a cyclical calendar like the Mayan is the last year of the previous cycle?

For example, in a hundred year cycle, you would reach year 100 at the end of the hundreth year. Then, that hundreth year would continue until the new year of one is reached. So instead of calling it year zero, you'd be calling it year hundred, because it's the name of the number of years that had already been reached. If this is how the Mayan calender works, then their year zero does exist, but it is named after the last year of the previous cycle. So the question arises, when does the cycle end - at the achievement of the end of the last year, or at the achievement of the end of the first year? Because between the two dates is the "year zero."
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ok whatever OP
... go ahead and write a book and see how many you can sell to the doomtards before next year. I think it's funny that i didnt see any of these "researched theories" before dec 21 and now everybody has the "real" date.
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It's called "failure analysis," or for those of you still picking your noses, "learning." It's also part of the scientific method. You observe the world, theorize what it going on, make predictions about what will happen next, watch what happens, and make new theories based on observations.

That includes reconsidering other theorize in the light of new information.

What you are doing, on the other hand, is promoting ignorance, despair, the destruction of learning, shame, stupidity, the mocking condemnation of the learning process itself, and the disruption of the collaborative possibilities the internet enables. You are trying, along with other like you, to undermine and destroy thousands of years of human efforts to come together and try to build a better world. Because of this, you are the enemy of humanity. You are the enemy of truth, of learning, of goodness, and of kindness. You are the destroyer of minds and hearts, and the helper of all of the hells and misery ever to visit the human race. Your life is worth than death, your words are poison, and you are the enemy of all the goodness in the world. In a just world, you would be jailed for life for your efforts to destroy civilization, and your mocking tongue would be silenced behind the slam of a steel prison door, and the entire world would sigh in relief when you were finally locked up for good.

I hope that was clear.
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Thank you OP for your great research.

When my friend asked me: why nothing happened on the 21st, my answer was:

The calculations of present day researchers of Maya calendar must be wrong.

So I was right and I believe you are probably closer to the truth than the rest of the so called researchers.

I think the PTB know the real date also, and that was a purposefully orchestrated misinformation so the profane are confused, and put their guard down when the real thing happens .

The shilling on this thread is the proof.
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Re: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)
I'm sorry, do you have a degree in Mayan Anthropology? Mathematics? Archaeology? What is your expertise that you make these claims? You just quoted a bunch of dates at me as though I should immediately understand their significance, and then said you were right. Can we acknowledge, at least, that this is not about Doomsdays or Armageddons? That there is no "End Time"? That, regardless of any academic interest in the understanding of Mayan time records and spirituality, there is only as much credence to their superstitions ad there is to modern Christianity? To the Shamanistic beliefs of South American tribes? To the Norse and Greek Pantheons?
I grow weary of this innate need in humans to see themselves annihilated. Let's focus instead on moving forward, shall we?
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Re: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)
I'm sorry, do you have a degree in Mayan Anthropology? Mathematics? Archaeology? What is your expertise that you make these claims? You just quoted a bunch of dates at me as though I should immediately understand their significance, and then said you were right. Can we acknowledge, at least, that this is not about Doomsdays or Armageddons? That there is no "End Time"? That, regardless of any academic interest in the understanding of Mayan time records and spirituality, there is only as much credence to their superstitions ad there is to modern Christianity? To the Shamanistic beliefs of South American tribes? To the Norse and Greek Pantheons?
I grow weary of this innate need in humans to see themselves annihilated. Let's focus instead on moving forward, shall we?
Quoting: ImportantQuestions 30776638

Funny, how you are on conspiracy forum and you ask for degrees. You are obviously in a wrong place. There is a lot of scientific forums you can join.

People with degrees are the most manipulated and for them finding true knowledge is impossible. They only follow what they are told to learn.

Thank you OP for your research.
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Re: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)
I for one thankyou OP for bringing the discrepancy to our attention

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Re: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)
I for one thankyou OP for bringing the discrepancy to our attention

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Thanks. It is a very simple calendar discrepancy that even a 7 year old can understand. Again, can anyone disprove my theory? I will be more than happy to admit I am wrong if someone can disprove it.
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Re: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)

It has NOW been revealed!

Thread: Comet ISON C/2012 S1 is bolon yokte of the mayans

Quatrain II.46
After great misery for mankind an even greater one approaches, when the great cycle of the centuries is renewed. It will rain blood, milk, famine, war and disease. In the sky will be seen a fire, dragging a tail of sparks.

(When is the great cycle of centuries renewed as described above? Yup, Dec. 16th, 2013 of the Mayan Long Count calendar).

Comet ISON May Be Visible In The Daylight In 2013

"Comets are always cool, but seeing one during the daytime will be the first in my lifetime and in many people’s experience. Come next November, be on the lookout—both during the day and at night."

Quatrain II.41

The great star for seven days will burn, The cloud will cause two suns to appear: The big mastiff all night will howl, When the great pontiff changes countries.

Posted back in September when the comet was first announced.

Posted back in September as well. Looks like many are seeing the connections!

I just added the major extra dimension with the Mayan calendar truly ending and cycling back over on Dec. 16th, 2013.
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Re: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)
I tell you OP, the game ISON.

Done some research of my own on this comet and especially the NAME..very interesting but not funny.

Looking forward to what you have unearthed..I do believe there is a correlation to the true galactic midnight. As Ursula would say..the dragons tail whips up a frenzy.

By the by, such an astronomic show weighs heavily on the psyche when, at a time of diminishing liberty, we are at witts end to remain sane.
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Re: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)
I'm sorry, do you have a degree in Mayan Anthropology? Mathematics? Archaeology? What is your expertise that you make these claims? You just quoted a bunch of dates at me as though I should immediately understand their significance, and then said you were right. Can we acknowledge, at least, that this is not about Doomsdays or Armageddons? That there is no "End Time"? That, regardless of any academic interest in the understanding of Mayan time records and spirituality, there is only as much credence to their superstitions ad there is to modern Christianity? To the Shamanistic beliefs of South American tribes? To the Norse and Greek Pantheons?
I grow weary of this innate need in humans to see themselves annihilated. Let's focus instead on moving forward, shall we?
Quoting: ImportantQuestions 30776638

No, no, and no.

My expertise is that I am pretty good at researching information and using multicontextual analysis.

I have also studied the Mayan calendar and read numerous books about 4-5 years ago related to it from Carl Calleman, John Major Jenkins, Geoff Stray, among others. I then used my own brain and researched the calendar myself.

I thought the whole Dec. 21st, 2012 was a deception. Hell, they made a Hollywood movie related to that date, so you just knew something was a little off.

I was intrigued by Calleman's research and the importance of the 13 Ahau Tzolkin end date. He had it at Oct. 28th, 2011, which was 13 Ahau. But I quickly realized that even his theory might be right in some ways, the date was off. So I am embarked on my own journey researching it and figuring out the numbers, which I will explain in more depth later.

Then to my amazement, I realized the Mayan calendar researchers included the Year 0 in their calculations, which they shouldn't have done, thus the calendar is off by a year, or 360 days according to the Mayan Long Count.
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Re: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)
waiting for more of your research results..................fascinating!

After I looked through your information, it's an obvious mistake that they (the researchers) overlooked the year 0, which was mistakenly counted in as a full year.

Makes a lot of sense.
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