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Iowa court rules boss can fire employee he considers an ‘irresistible attraction’

 
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The Dentist was sexually attracted to her and he crossed the line by his statements. So to cut his liability, he fired her for being too sexually attractive to him. Interesting.
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The Dentist was sexually attracted to her and he crossed the line by his statements. So to cut his liability, he fired her for being too sexually attractive to him. Interesting.
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Interesting that the court upheld it.

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Man, I am glad I don't live in Iowa. I'd never be able to work where there are women or gay men.
Can I collect disability for being so hansom?

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Re: Iowa court rules boss can fire employee he considers an ‘irresistible attraction’
I see the legal point. Everything else about it strikes me as so unfair, to everyone involved, no matter how the ruling came down that it's difficult to think of an option with a superior outcome.

It was the employers problem, not the employees, and did hint at sexual harassment, since it threatened and in fact removed the ladies employment, during a depression none the less, because the boss had inappropriate feelings.

He couldn't quit though, given the nature of the work, so what else could have been done. (Provided he found himself unable to control his feelings.)

It sucks all the way around, but I have to agree that it seems like the only thing that might work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536600


Actually, he asked her to wear less revealing clothes and apparently she did not, at least not to the required extent?

I don't see why women (and men) cannot be required to wear non-revealing, even non-flattering clothes as a condition of employment. It's a bit Sharia-ish, but that's the reason that provision is in Sharia law. I am not going that far, I do not require women to wear hijab, but the workplace is not the same as the general public. She can wear revealing clothes, just not at his workplace. She continued to wear revealing clothes, she got fired. Fine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30670070

Clothes are expensive. All my clothes "fit". If I had to go out and buy a set of baggy too big for me clothes because my boss was a 53 year old pervert, I wouldn't be able to afford it.

Women are shaped like women, surprise! The report doesn't say she was flashing her cleavage about, just that her clothes were tight fitting. Maybe we should all wear potato sack dresses?

In these end times I believe the people will be asking for sharia law. How foolish. Even many muslims are not happy with it as it is merely someone's interpretation of the quran.

This is how it is going: false flag attacks happen, people call to be more tightly controlled and monitored. Things will get worse and eventually they will ask for sharia law perhaps.

But to OP:
whatever
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The Dentist was sexually attracted to her and he crossed the line by his statements. So to cut his liability, he fired her for being too sexually attractive to him. Interesting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2146063


Interesting that the court upheld it.

scheming

Times are finally changing.
 Quoting: BlueSage 13


Courts all too often act unlawfully.

However, obvious troll is obvious.

The moment someone speaks against it you simply mention your GOD "the court".

Oh well if your god the court thinks that it's right, it must be right oh yes. (Sarcasm if you can't tell)
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The Dentist was sexually attracted to her and he crossed the line by his statements. So to cut his liability, he fired her for being too sexually attractive to him. Interesting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2146063


Interesting that the court upheld it.

scheming

Times are finally changing.
 Quoting: BlueSage 13


Courts all too often act unlawfully.

However, obvious troll is obvious.

The moment someone speaks against it you simply mention your GOD "the court".

Oh well if your god the court thinks that it's right, it must be right oh yes. (Sarcasm if you can't tell)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30677160


Just pointing out that the faggots and other judicial leeches ... that their leashes are being tightened finally.

Maybe they'll allow less and less reasons for people to sue? One could only hope.

It'd be the tip of the iceberg to stomping out the entitlement freaks.
My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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The Dentist was sexually attracted to her and he crossed the line by his statements. So to cut his liability, he fired her for being too sexually attractive to him. Interesting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2146063


Interesting that the court upheld it.

scheming

Times are finally changing.
 Quoting: BlueSage 13


The management should be the ones dropping off the payroll for even mentioning it. Employee to employee is definitely ok but management has no business in those affairs.

That's exactly what the Union would do and she would get retroactive backpay. The offending manager will probably get demoted or at LEAST moved to a different facility.
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The Dentist was sexually attracted to her and he crossed the line by his statements. So to cut his liability, he fired her for being too sexually attractive to him. Interesting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2146063


Interesting that the court upheld it.

scheming

Times are finally changing.
 Quoting: BlueSage 13


The management should be the ones dropping off the payroll for even mentioning it. Employee to employee is definitely ok but management has no business in those affairs.

That's exactly what the Union would do and she would get retroactive backpay. The offending manager will probably get demoted or at LEAST moved to a different facility.
 Quoting: krosty


It's a dental office. They work in very close proximity to each other. She wears very tight fitting clothing even when he said not to? Hell no. Kind of glad the broad took this to court and lost too...doesn't happen very often.

I applaud the justice system in this case and hope and pray it leads to more cases like this.

Last Edited by Natures Wrath on 12/22/2012 10:16 PM
My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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12/22/2012 10:22 PM
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Re: Iowa court rules boss can fire employee he considers an ‘irresistible attraction’
I was denide a job in 1989 because the boss said I was 'too pretty'.
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12/22/2012 10:23 PM
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Of course....it doesn't matter now. I'm an old fart.
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So the best way to keep you job now is to look and smell like a slob???
Perfect I now qualify for all jobs.

The dentist should just give his pee-pee a shot of nova-cane in the morning.

'89 was only 25 years ago, were you 45 then? (age not boob size)

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"He later told [her] husband that he worried he was getting too personally attached and feared he would eventually try to start an affair with her."

This sounds to me like a man of high integrity and character... And she worked for him for 10 years. Why then, did she start changing her wardrobe into something more flirty, even after he asked her not to?

Nelson, 32, worked for Knight for 10 years, and he considered her a stellar worker. But in the final months of her employment, he complained that her tight clothing was distracting...
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"He later told [her] husband that he worried he was getting too personally attached and feared he would eventually try to start an affair with her."

This sounds to me like a man of high integrity and character... And she worked for him for 10 years. Why then, did she start changing her wardrobe into something more flirty, even after he asked her not to?

Nelson, 32, worked for Knight for 10 years, and he considered her a stellar worker. But in the final months of her employment, he complained that her tight clothing was distracting...
 Quoting: TheBiss


Someone with some common sense. It's rare these days. :)

Stick it to the entitlement freaks.

:vote:
My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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"He later told [her] husband that he worried he was getting too personally attached and feared he would eventually try to start an affair with her."

This sounds to me like a man of high integrity and character... And she worked for him for 10 years. Why then, did she start changing her wardrobe into something more flirty, even after he asked her not to?

Nelson, 32, worked for Knight for 10 years, and he considered her a stellar worker. But in the final months of her employment, he complained that her tight clothing was distracting...
 Quoting: TheBiss


Come to think of it...her man was some worhtless asshat probably and not giving her what she needed...which she hoped to find in an office romance.

Really getting a lot of respect for this man and I don't even know the fella.

Last Edited by Natures Wrath on 12/22/2012 10:51 PM
My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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while i agree that any business owner should fire anyone they see unfit or a deterrent that would cause a company to act differently than normal; it's stupid if you stop to think about it.
Basically this is the Muslim approach to a situation. You're turning your inability of self control into a legal issue of female attractiveness.
STUPID....
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Yup.

Talk about retarded....not surprising the xtian nuts on here agree with this.
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I approve of this post. My faith is slowly growing in this country.

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Keep saying that till some homo pulls this shit....

Then what will you say?
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Anyone who gets fired for being too hot wont have any problems getting another job.
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If the boss getting bulgy britches around her did not offend her then there is something wrong here (scratches head)

Tent poles swinging in most women's directions, when unwanted, generally result in some complaint.

I know if he told me I was giving him wood, my a** would've been out of that office in record time.
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I approve of this post. My faith is slowly growing in this country.

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hey...u can't fix stupid..
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The Dentist was sexually attracted to her and he crossed the line by his statements. So to cut his liability, he fired her for being too sexually attractive to him. Interesting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2146063


Interesting that the court upheld it.

scheming

Times are finally changing.
 Quoting: BlueSage 13


Didn't you see the part where it said Iowa?

Now if this happened in Cali or New York, that'd be interesting.
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I've seen boss secretaries try to look sexy to appeal to the boss or make others think that they are in the boss' good graces...or worse, the boss' mistress.

The fact that she became a distraction to the workplace both to the boss and by potential employee gossip makes her a liability and worthy of being fired.

Good for Iowa.
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why? because you cant control your dick so you have to blame the woman?
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I agree. You can not control your dicks in shit-head Iowa!
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Hmmm... Let's see. She was wearing tight clothing to work despite his objections, texting him about personal matters, including her relationship with her husband, and somehow he knew she was having sex infrequently. At the very least, I'd call that less than professional behavior.

Fraternizing with superiors has always been a risky career move, even if done with honest and innocent intentions.

The key to all this though is that his wife worked in the same office.

Reading between the lines, I'm betting the only reason the subject of his bulging pants came up is because his wife noticed and called him out on it. I imagine it was his wife who insisted he reprimand this woman for her tight-fitting work wardrobe. Ultimately, it was his wife who demanded she be fired.

I'm sure in the end all this made for quite a tense and uncomfortable work environment. Something had to change.

Honestly, I think I have to go with the wife's instincts on this one. She and this other woman worked together in her husband's office for 10 years, but it was only near the end that the wife began to feel threatened.

I don't believe this was a case of petty jealousy on the wife's part. I'd say she picked up on some very viable warning signs that this other woman truly posed a threat and acted to defend her marriage and family.
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Demon-spawn fantasies!

Blame someone else for what you people who do not have any will power always try to do.

Screw with people!

Enough of your Demon-spawns!
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I agree with this post 100% (why the heck don't you sign up so I can plus rep you for this excellent analysis?)

If anything, she was harassing him.
Subtly. Like topping from the bottom.

Hmmm... Let's see. She was wearing tight clothing to work despite his objections, texting him about personal matters, including her relationship with her husband, and somehow he knew she was having sex infrequently. At the very least, I'd call that less than professional behavior.


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she isnt very hot, especially here 2nd picture

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If I was married, and my husband was sexually attractive to his assistant, I would demand that she be fired as well.

She should be given an good reference and shown the door. No-on is owed a job.

byekitty
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so if it was a sexually unattractive it would be fine?insecure much?
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We need to see a picture of this irresistablely-alluring dental babe.
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We need to see a picture of this irresistablely-alluring dental babe.
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i posted some, 3 up from here

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