Iowa court rules boss can fire employee he considers an ‘irresistible attraction’ | |
BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 United States 12/22/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Dentist was sexually attracted to her and he crossed the line by his statements. So to cut his liability, he fired her for being too sexually attractive to him. Interesting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2146063 Interesting that the court upheld it. Times are finally changing. My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30677160 United Kingdom 12/22/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see the legal point. Everything else about it strikes me as so unfair, to everyone involved, no matter how the ruling came down that it's difficult to think of an option with a superior outcome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 536600 It was the employers problem, not the employees, and did hint at sexual harassment, since it threatened and in fact removed the ladies employment, during a depression none the less, because the boss had inappropriate feelings. He couldn't quit though, given the nature of the work, so what else could have been done. (Provided he found himself unable to control his feelings.) It sucks all the way around, but I have to agree that it seems like the only thing that might work. Actually, he asked her to wear less revealing clothes and apparently she did not, at least not to the required extent? I don't see why women (and men) cannot be required to wear non-revealing, even non-flattering clothes as a condition of employment. It's a bit Sharia-ish, but that's the reason that provision is in Sharia law. I am not going that far, I do not require women to wear hijab, but the workplace is not the same as the general public. She can wear revealing clothes, just not at his workplace. She continued to wear revealing clothes, she got fired. Fine. Clothes are expensive. All my clothes "fit". If I had to go out and buy a set of baggy too big for me clothes because my boss was a 53 year old pervert, I wouldn't be able to afford it. Women are shaped like women, surprise! The report doesn't say she was flashing her cleavage about, just that her clothes were tight fitting. Maybe we should all wear potato sack dresses? In these end times I believe the people will be asking for sharia law. How foolish. Even many muslims are not happy with it as it is merely someone's interpretation of the quran. This is how it is going: false flag attacks happen, people call to be more tightly controlled and monitored. Things will get worse and eventually they will ask for sharia law perhaps. But to OP: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30677160 United Kingdom 12/22/2012 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Dentist was sexually attracted to her and he crossed the line by his statements. So to cut his liability, he fired her for being too sexually attractive to him. Interesting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2146063 Interesting that the court upheld it. Times are finally changing. Courts all too often act unlawfully. However, obvious troll is obvious. The moment someone speaks against it you simply mention your GOD "the court". Oh well if your god the court thinks that it's right, it must be right oh yes. (Sarcasm if you can't tell) |
krosty User ID: 15571780 United States 12/22/2012 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Dentist was sexually attracted to her and he crossed the line by his statements. So to cut his liability, he fired her for being too sexually attractive to him. Interesting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2146063 Interesting that the court upheld it. Times are finally changing. The management should be the ones dropping off the payroll for even mentioning it. Employee to employee is definitely ok but management has no business in those affairs. That's exactly what the Union would do and she would get retroactive backpay. The offending manager will probably get demoted or at LEAST moved to a different facility. |
BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 United States 12/22/2012 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Dentist was sexually attracted to her and he crossed the line by his statements. So to cut his liability, he fired her for being too sexually attractive to him. Interesting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2146063 Interesting that the court upheld it. Times are finally changing. The management should be the ones dropping off the payroll for even mentioning it. Employee to employee is definitely ok but management has no business in those affairs. That's exactly what the Union would do and she would get retroactive backpay. The offending manager will probably get demoted or at LEAST moved to a different facility. It's a dental office. They work in very close proximity to each other. She wears very tight fitting clothing even when he said not to? Hell no. Kind of glad the broad took this to court and lost too...doesn't happen very often. I applaud the justice system in this case and hope and pray it leads to more cases like this. Last Edited by Natures Wrath on 12/22/2012 10:16 PM My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |
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MHz User ID: 25505891 Canada 12/22/2012 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the best way to keep you job now is to look and smell like a slob??? Perfect I now qualify for all jobs. The dentist should just give his pee-pee a shot of nova-cane in the morning. '89 was only 25 years ago, were you 45 then? (age not boob size) Last Edited by MHz on 12/22/2012 10:29 PM |
TheBiss User ID: 25023924 United States 12/22/2012 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "He later told [her] husband that he worried he was getting too personally attached and feared he would eventually try to start an affair with her." This sounds to me like a man of high integrity and character... And she worked for him for 10 years. Why then, did she start changing her wardrobe into something more flirty, even after he asked her not to? Nelson, 32, worked for Knight for 10 years, and he considered her a stellar worker. But in the final months of her employment, he complained that her tight clothing was distracting... [link to www.grainmill.coop] - Bulk foods, long term storage solutions [link to www.CatawbaCoops.com] - Unique A-Frame chicken coop plans |
BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 United States 12/22/2012 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "He later told [her] husband that he worried he was getting too personally attached and feared he would eventually try to start an affair with her." Quoting: TheBiss This sounds to me like a man of high integrity and character... And she worked for him for 10 years. Why then, did she start changing her wardrobe into something more flirty, even after he asked her not to? Nelson, 32, worked for Knight for 10 years, and he considered her a stellar worker. But in the final months of her employment, he complained that her tight clothing was distracting... Someone with some common sense. It's rare these days. :) Stick it to the entitlement freaks. My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |
BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 United States 12/22/2012 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "He later told [her] husband that he worried he was getting too personally attached and feared he would eventually try to start an affair with her." Quoting: TheBiss This sounds to me like a man of high integrity and character... And she worked for him for 10 years. Why then, did she start changing her wardrobe into something more flirty, even after he asked her not to? Nelson, 32, worked for Knight for 10 years, and he considered her a stellar worker. But in the final months of her employment, he complained that her tight clothing was distracting... Come to think of it...her man was some worhtless asshat probably and not giving her what she needed...which she hoped to find in an office romance. Really getting a lot of respect for this man and I don't even know the fella. Last Edited by Natures Wrath on 12/22/2012 10:51 PM My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30320213 Hong Kong 12/22/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | while i agree that any business owner should fire anyone they see unfit or a deterrent that would cause a company to act differently than normal; it's stupid if you stop to think about it. Quoting: usagi yojimbo Basically this is the Muslim approach to a situation. You're turning your inability of self control into a legal issue of female attractiveness. STUPID.... Yup. Talk about retarded....not surprising the xtian nuts on here agree with this. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30662156 United States 12/22/2012 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tent poles swinging in most women's directions, when unwanted, generally result in some complaint. I know if he told me I was giving him wood, my a** would've been out of that office in record time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30682970 United Kingdom 12/22/2012 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Dentist was sexually attracted to her and he crossed the line by his statements. So to cut his liability, he fired her for being too sexually attractive to him. Interesting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2146063 Interesting that the court upheld it. Times are finally changing. Didn't you see the part where it said Iowa? Now if this happened in Cali or New York, that'd be interesting. |
the8track User ID: 23562436 United States 12/22/2012 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've seen boss secretaries try to look sexy to appeal to the boss or make others think that they are in the boss' good graces...or worse, the boss' mistress. The fact that she became a distraction to the workplace both to the boss and by potential employee gossip makes her a liability and worthy of being fired. Good for Iowa. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27834680 Panama 12/23/2012 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmm... Let's see. She was wearing tight clothing to work despite his objections, texting him about personal matters, including her relationship with her husband, and somehow he knew she was having sex infrequently. At the very least, I'd call that less than professional behavior. Fraternizing with superiors has always been a risky career move, even if done with honest and innocent intentions. The key to all this though is that his wife worked in the same office. Reading between the lines, I'm betting the only reason the subject of his bulging pants came up is because his wife noticed and called him out on it. I imagine it was his wife who insisted he reprimand this woman for her tight-fitting work wardrobe. Ultimately, it was his wife who demanded she be fired. I'm sure in the end all this made for quite a tense and uncomfortable work environment. Something had to change. Honestly, I think I have to go with the wife's instincts on this one. She and this other woman worked together in her husband's office for 10 years, but it was only near the end that the wife began to feel threatened. I don't believe this was a case of petty jealousy on the wife's part. I'd say she picked up on some very viable warning signs that this other woman truly posed a threat and acted to defend her marriage and family. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30662156 United States 12/23/2012 01:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with this post 100% (why the heck don't you sign up so I can plus rep you for this excellent analysis?) If anything, she was harassing him. Subtly. Like topping from the bottom. Hmmm... Let's see. She was wearing tight clothing to work despite his objections, texting him about personal matters, including her relationship with her husband, and somehow he knew she was having sex infrequently. At the very least, I'd call that less than professional behavior. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27834680 |
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