Wouldn't It Be Best To Put The Gun Ban Issue To A Public Vote?

Obtuse is a good word for you.

NO, it's the 2nd Amendment and its #2 for a reason.

THIS

No. This is a Republic, not a democracy.

MorAn.

gutards would lose.

obama said he was going to ban assualt weapons before he was elected both times.

the last power of the mainly republican nra is to allow americans to murder each other at

their current rate.

What you'll see is this issue will become the most polarizing issue of our time, families and friends will be torn apart by it. Also what you will have is many people from urban areas and the over educated the media brainwashed folk will be on one side of the issue and the rest of us that know our history and believe the constitution wasn't and isn't just a goddammed piece of paper like some have said on the other side.

The later group will be demonized and in the end targeted for their "extreme" views, the will be forced to surrender their weapons and yes they will kill and be killed. This is just the way it is going to be, it doesn't mean that I'm advocating this position it's just a fact of life and something that cannot be stopped.

My apologies for being presumptuous

You shouldn't worry about it until we start heading across the ocean.

You mean so the government can then do as they wish and commit genocide, like all other nations that have done so in the past.

No, this is not a democracy, it is a republic. No mob rule for me thank you.

OP:

I like it. Balance of power. Maintaining the status quo without actual force! MAD!!! Mutual Assured Destruction.

The problem with that is we don't know where they live and they aren't talking, while they know every fricking thing about us. Plus, they have us financially broke.

That's funny coming from Switzerland. I thought all you cheese eaters had guns.

Another dumb-ass foreigner sticking their nose in our business. - We are not and have never been a democracy.
We are a Republic! Go back to sleep down under

um no, my rights are inalienable and endowed from my creator.


they are not up for vote, sorry.

I find it very amusing how many Aussies come to GLP and rag on Americans because we have a GOD given right to defend ourselves and our Founding Fathers had enough intelligence and foresight to add the Second Amendment to our Constitution.

On most gun related threads on GLP you will find Aussies who for the most part are anti-gun. Not surprising since your government does not allow you the same degree of defense we are given in the US.

Your liberal stance (and ignorance/lack of common sense) is noted.

Now kindly fuck off.

Can't tell if you're being satirical.

This will start a civil war in a heartbeat. Impeach the asshole

Perhaps I should have added the words 'self professed'

Are you fucking insane with this "leveling the playing field" shit? Do you really believe for a moment that the military couldn't wipe out any group of "militia" with assault weapons, no matter how many assault weapons they had? Ever hear of airstrikes? Drones? Tanks? What the fuck are you smoking that allows you to believe for a minute that you and your friends with your stockpiles of assault weapons would make a shred of difference if your crazed fantasies about government conspiracies to steal your liberty actually came true? It's beyond ridiculous and shouldn't be part of any serious discussion about gun control.

Nowhere in this thread have I expressed any view as to being anti gun-ownership.

If you guys are to retain your present rights, you are going to have to express you arguments in a soundly reasoned, logical and ration manner, IMO.

Using sweeping racial stereotypes is doing you no favours.

You might consider moderating your avatar for example.

Nowhere in this thread have I expressed any view as to being anti gun-ownership.

If you guys are to retain your present rights, you are going to have to express you arguments in a soundly reasoned, logical and rational manner, IMO.

Using sweeping racial stereotypes is doing you no favours.

You might consider moderating your avatar for example.

The Constitution is not up for a vote, dork. Wake the hell up

What about amendments to the Constitution?

Well lie down and spread your cheeks and submit to the whims of the government as obviously you fail to understand that many veterans and active duty still understand and respect the Constitution even if you do not.

The principle behind the second Amendment is to not apply force as a well-equipped populace is a viable deterrence. Why do you believe the progressives in our government seek to neuter us from our second Amendment rights?

You gave up your rights for healthcare and the government caring for you do not expect respect for your failure to stand up for yourselves and forge your own way in life. You can just stand there by the side of the road, waiting for the government to toss food into your open mouth and cash into your greedy lazy hands.

they are not up for a vote either

I see. So it's a constitutional dictatorship?

On what evidence do you base these assertions?

First, I love my avatar...it's so American ya know.

Next, if we are to retain our present rights, as you say, we don't actually have to do anything because the 2nd Amendment guarantees us that right. Any law passed by CONgress or the Executive branch (via Executive Orders) would be null and void IF it infringes on our rights to keep and bear arms.

I think you have a huge misunderstanding of the long held and deep seated belief of how we conservatives (the majority, and no I'm not talking about political conservatives) view our RIGHT to defend ourselves against government tyranny.

Evil exists. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. This has never been more on display in this country than what we are seeing within our own goverment today.

Most politicians are bought and paid for with corporate money. They no longer represent "we the people". They represent their own personal agendas for more money and power.

Don't ever under-estimate the will of the people in America to "keep and bear arms".

As far as my racial stereotypes go, if walks like a duck and talks like a duck...