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THE BIBLE= THE BABY OR THE BATHWATER!!!!

 
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12/22/2012 10:56 PM
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THE BIBLE= THE BABY OR THE BATHWATER!!!!
for a made up book called the bible, it still has a lot to say especially about Prophesy!! there are of course far too many to mention here.

yes RELIGION does "get in the way", but LIVING as a christian is 24/7 seven days a week, not just on the weekend, depending on ones RELIGIOUS PERSUASION.!!

yes the bible has been CHANGED and has had books and parts of it taken out altogether. many believe that a certain church or RELIGION have kept "the people in fear" by "their traditions of men doctrines"

yes i also agree to a certain extent, but there is no getting away from "THE HISTORIC FACTS" that have alreadt happened and "the future PROPHESY" of a ONE WORLD LEADER that will "enforce his MARK" upon all humanity.!!

yes of course this world has already seen its share of crackpot dictators and religious fruitcakes to boot. this coming world "leader" will be much different and his "MARK" will actually "SEAL" it's 'bearer's" fate for all eternity!!

yes of course it could all still be part of "the great cover up" or "fear mongering" tactics of a certain "religion", but if one looks and what its religious leaders are espousing about "TECHNOLOGY", then alarm bells should ring in ones own ears.

ANY RELIGIOUS LEADER or SO CALLED CHRISTIAN LEADER telling the world or its own "church" that a "SILICON CHIP IMPLANT" IS NOT or will not be "THE MARK OF THE BEAST" should not be trusted at all.

no the bible does NOT STATE or mention a silicon chip implant at all, but it does mention 'he forces his mark" upon all humanity.

time will tell if such church LEADERS are actually or will be "in favor" of such "a mark", when it is "enforced" by the then new world leader.!!

THE BIBLE is a GUIDE book it is that simple, within its pages it can lead a person to seek gods face and a desire to know him more.

it is more than a story book, no matter whether classified as fables or fiction or both by some. yes it has death and murder written within its pages and can be summed up as "historic" whether fiction or real, it is a question of THE BABY OR THE BATH WATER!!

i agree much of the bible has been changed and "CONTINUES" TO BE CHANGED to suit an ever changing world, but that does not make it right either.

THE BIBLE has much of its "original" history, taken out to keep humanity "dumbed down" and from "knowing" where we all started out from in "the very beginning"!!

"where there is a lot of law preached" then there is very "little love" "where there is much love preached" then there is very little "law"!!

NO ONE NEEDS THE BIBLE TO BECOME "SAVED" it is RELATIONSHIP with god that determines where we will spend eternity!!!!
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"NO ONE NEEDS THE BIBLE TO BECOME "SAVED" it is RELATIONSHIP with god that determines where we will spend eternity!!!!"

Heard that
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"NO ONE NEEDS THE BIBLE TO BECOME "SAVED" it is RELATIONSHIP with god that determines where we will spend eternity!!!!"

Heard that
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well it is true,and within ones own heart it becomes "real"
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"NO ONE NEEDS THE BIBLE TO BECOME "SAVED" it is RELATIONSHIP with god that determines where we will spend eternity!!!!"

Heard that
 Quoting: Dark Stranger 3003754


well it is true,and within ones own heart it becomes "real"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19872946


Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Sorry pal try again. You want to make your own way to God, like every other religion does. The Bible is the innerant, inspired, infallible Word of the Living God. It has not changed and will never pass away until ALL be fulfilled.
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"NO ONE NEEDS THE BIBLE TO BECOME "SAVED" it is RELATIONSHIP with god that determines where we will spend eternity!!!!"

Heard that
 Quoting: Dark Stranger 3003754


well it is true,and within ones own heart it becomes "real"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19872946


Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Sorry pal try again. You want to make your own way to God, like every other religion does. The Bible is the innerant, inspired, infallible Word of the Living God. It has not changed and will never pass away until ALL be fulfilled.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot

thousands were 'saved" b4 the bible was even written pal. the THIEF on the cross also, where oh where did THEY ALL RECEIVE 'SALVATION' FROM.???? "it was through what"???? is it not THE HOLY SPIRIT that leads one into ALL TRUTH.???? would you say that "all whom believe in the bible" are "saved" then.????
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"NO ONE NEEDS THE BIBLE TO BECOME "SAVED" it is RELATIONSHIP with god that determines where we will spend eternity!!!!"

Heard that
 Quoting: Dark Stranger 3003754


well it is true,and within ones own heart it becomes "real"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19872946


Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Sorry pal try again. You want to make your own way to God, like every other religion does. The Bible is the innerant, inspired, infallible Word of the Living God. It has not changed and will never pass away until ALL be fulfilled.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


not all that say "lord lord" shall make it into eternity......i wonder if they "believed the bible" or held to just some "doctrine" and turned into "a religion"????
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"NO ONE NEEDS THE BIBLE TO BECOME "SAVED" it is RELATIONSHIP with god that determines where we will spend eternity!!!!"

Heard that
 Quoting: Dark Stranger 3003754


well it is true,and within ones own heart it becomes "real"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19872946


Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Sorry pal try again. You want to make your own way to God, like every other religion does. The Bible is the innerant, inspired, infallible Word of the Living God. It has not changed and will never pass away until ALL be fulfilled.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot

thousands were 'saved" b4 the bible was even written pal. the THIEF on the cross also, where oh where did THEY ALL RECEIVE 'SALVATION' FROM.???? "it was through what"???? is it not THE HOLY SPIRIT that leads one into ALL TRUTH.???? would you say that "all whom believe in the bible" are "saved" then.????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19872946


No, I do not say that. I proclaim that no one will believe the Bible, until they are born again. You cannot. The Bible says the natural man (unsaved, not born again) cannot understand the things of God, in fact they are foolishness to him. It is not until the Spirit of God, by HIS will (not a choice we make like so many nowadays believe) regenerates a man's spirit, that is to say quickens him, or gives him new life (rebirth), can a person begin to appreciate, love and adore the Scriptures. Until a person is born again, they will abhor the things of God, they will consider them a waste of time, or worse.
Peter saw Jesus transform into a Heavenly state. Moses and Elijah appeared next to Christ, and the Father said "this is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased". Peter saw all of that happen with his own eyes! But what does Peter say is a MORE SURE way to know that Jesus is God? The Bible (2 Peter 2.18-20)! It is perfect and perfectly explains all of your questions, as well as your hatred of it, and your desire to find a different way to God. It is all in there, but to answer your original question...You cannot know WHO God is, which GOD is real, or what HE expects from you, without it! You are right a relationship with God is very important, but if you ask a Jew, a Muslim, a Buddhist and a Hindu what that means, they will all give you different answers and will be convinced they are correct. The Bible is what separates religion from truth!
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well it is true,and within ones own heart it becomes "real"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19872946


Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Sorry pal try again. You want to make your own way to God, like every other religion does. The Bible is the innerant, inspired, infallible Word of the Living God. It has not changed and will never pass away until ALL be fulfilled.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot

thousands were 'saved" b4 the bible was even written pal. the THIEF on the cross also, where oh where did THEY ALL RECEIVE 'SALVATION' FROM.???? "it was through what"???? is it not THE HOLY SPIRIT that leads one into ALL TRUTH.???? would you say that "all whom believe in the bible" are "saved" then.????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19872946


No, I do not say that. I proclaim that no one will believe the Bible, until they are born again. You cannot. The Bible says the natural man (unsaved, not born again) cannot understand the things of God, in fact they are foolishness to him. It is not until the Spirit of God, by HIS will (not a choice we make like so many nowadays believe) regenerates a man's spirit, that is to say quickens him, or gives him new life (rebirth), can a person begin to appreciate, love and adore the Scriptures. Until a person is born again, they will abhor the things of God, they will consider them a waste of time, or worse.
Peter saw Jesus transform into a Heavenly state. Moses and Elijah appeared next to Christ, and the Father said "this is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased". Peter saw all of that happen with his own eyes! But what does Peter say is a MORE SURE way to know that Jesus is God? The Bible (2 Peter 2.18-20)! It is perfect and perfectly explains all of your questions, as well as your hatred of it, and your desire to find a different way to God. It is all in there, but to answer your original question...You cannot know WHO God is, which GOD is real, or what HE expects from you, without it! You are right a relationship with God is very important, but if you ask a Jew, a Muslim, a Buddhist and a Hindu what that means, they will all give you different answers and will be convinced they are correct. The Bible is what separates religion from truth!
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


being BORN AGAIN has nothing to do with WHAT WE DECIDE. one is either born of god or is not. children of EARTHLY FATHERS HAVE NO SAY IN BEING BORN AT ALL. it is the same as being BORN AGAIN from above.

NO ONE IS EVER "SAVED" OR BORN AGAIN BY WHAT THEY SAY OR DO least anyone would BOAST. i have already stated THE BIBLE has been changed by men and it is NOT THE BIBLE THAT SAVES ANYONE or THE BELIEF IN IT.

SATAN ALSO BELIEVES but we know his fate dont we.????
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Sorry pal try again. You want to make your own way to God, like every other religion does. The Bible is the innerant, inspired, infallible Word of the Living God. It has not changed and will never pass away until ALL be fulfilled.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


9teen Well said, there is probably more faith and common sense amongst the Christian community in places like Nigeria, China and India than there ever was in the Western world.
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Bathwater - Roman Church

Baby - Bible

"dont throw out the baby"
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Bathwater - Roman Church

Baby - Bible

"dont throw out the baby"
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yes thats right!!

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