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MERRY XMAS written in the sky above AUSTRALIA'S BIGGEST MOSQUE!!

 
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MERRY XMAS written in the sky above AUSTRALIA'S BIGGEST MOSQUE!!
A "merry Xmas" message is written in the sky above Australia's largest mosque after a fatwa was apparently declared on Christmas greetings!!

Over the weekend, a message appeared on the Facebook page for Lakemba Mosque, saying that Muslims were forbidden from taking part in Christmas traditions or wishing people a merry Christmas.

The entry implied it was a fatwa, or Islamic ruling, and was based on a lecture given at the mosque during Friday prayers.

[link to www.abc.net.au]

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The Lebanese Muslim Association says it has arranged for a Christmas wish to be written in the sky above the country's biggest mosque, in response to reports it had banned Muslims from wishing people a happy Christmas.
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hahahahahahahaha

got to get them to make a giant naked lady cloud drawing hahahaha

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All Muslims believe in Jesus too, you know?
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silly muslims got the wrong day.
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All Muslims believe in Jesus too, you know?
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like the jews and everyone except christians, they don't consider him spawned from a virgin or fathered by a deity.
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All Muslims believe in Jesus too, you know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30690242


like the jews and everyone except christians, they don't consider him spawned from a virgin or fathered by a deity.
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Actually, they consider him spawed for Mary the virgin.
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According to Islam, IIRC, Jesus is the messanger of God, born by virginal conception to Mary by the decree of God as the Messiah to the Children of Israel. He was given the ability to perform miracles to by permission of God. He was raised up to Heaven upon crucifixion.

Islam is much closer to Christianity that is Judaism, IMO.

And for Muslims to be celebrating His birth with skywriting is only to be expected.

Cheers,
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All Muslims believe in Jesus too, you know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30690242


like the jews and everyone except christians, they don't consider him spawned from a virgin or fathered by a deity.
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ANY step in the right direction is cause for celebration!
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According to Islam, IIRC, Jesus is the messanger of God, born by virginal conception to Mary by the decree of God as the Messiah to the Children of Israel. He was given the ability to perform miracles to by permission of God. He was raised up to Heaven upon crucifixion.

Islam is much closer to Christianity that is Judaism, IMO.

And for Muslims to be celebrating His birth with skywriting is only to be expected.

Cheers,
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Jesus being born a Jew is pretty close, lol...
it's a familial closeness I guess, rather than ideological.
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Yeah, an ideological closeness of course.

Many Muslims also belive that he shall return to Earth to restore justice prior to Judgement and to rule over the millenial kingdom. IIRC.
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I Love It !!!!
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how many of you christians think about christmas as Jesus (as) celebration rather than Santa (satan) celebration... ? what does the decorated tree has to do with Jesus (as) ? lolsign
"The Christmas tree is often explained as a Christianization of pagan tradition and ritual surrounding the winter solstice, which included the use of evergreen boughs, and an adaptation of pagan tree worship."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

muslims have no reason to wish anyone merry christmas, it's as stupid as wishing jews happy hanukah...muslims dont even celebrate Muhammad (as) birth since they dont know his birth date, that is for them not to worship him as christians worships Jesus (as) in spite of God. lolsign

each community its rituals and traditions.

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hahahahahahahaha

got to get them to make a giant naked lady cloud drawing hahahaha

riding a pig





haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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^this
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how many of you christians think about christmas as Jesus (as) celebration rather than Santa (satan) celebration... ? what does the decorated tree has to do with Jesus (as) ? lolsign
"The Christmas tree is often explained as a Christianization of pagan tradition and ritual surrounding the winter solstice, which included the use of evergreen boughs, and an adaptation of pagan tree worship."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

muslims have no reason to wish anyone merry christmas, it's as stupid as wishing jews happy hanukah...

each community its rituals and traditions.
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Why is it stupid to wish Jews happy hanukah?
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Why is it stupid to wish Jews happy hanukah?
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for the same reason a biker has no reason to say to a driver, "nice car you got there"
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Was thinking of sending the Lebanese Muslim community a Christmas ham as a thank you...
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Was thinking of sending the Lebanese Muslim community a Christmas ham as a thank you...
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pig eating is also forbidden in christiansim as much as in judaism...great you talk without knowledge.

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Why is it stupid to wish Jews happy hanukah?
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for the same reason a biker has no reason to say to a driver, "nice car you got there"
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Sorry, but I don't follow.

Would you care to elaborate?
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Would have been more convincing if they actually used the word Christ in Christmas instead of an X as in Xmas.
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Was thinking of sending the Lebanese Muslim community a Christmas ham as a thank you...
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pig eating is also forbidden in christiansim as much as in judaism...great you talk without knowledge.
 Quoting: Zeff


Really I never knew... You mean some people actually don't eat pig? WOW... Not even wafer thin ham, that comes pre sliced in a vacuum pack? Thanks for enlightening me Ivan Drago.....
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how many of you christians think about christmas as Jesus (as) celebration rather than Santa (satan) celebration... ? what does the decorated tree has to do with Jesus (as) ? lolsign
"The Christmas tree is often explained as a Christianization of pagan tradition and ritual surrounding the winter solstice, which included the use of evergreen boughs, and an adaptation of pagan tree worship."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

muslims have no reason to wish anyone merry christmas, it's as stupid as wishing jews happy hanukah...muslims dont even celebrate Muhammad (as) birth since they dont know his birth date, that is for them not to worship him as christians worships Jesus (as) in spite of God. lolsign

each community its rituals and traditions.
 Quoting: Zeff


Christmas tree is an evergreen. A tree that REMAINS green even after all other trees have 'died' in a sense for the winter. I look on it as a sign of the EVERLASTING life that is promised to us as believers in Jesus.

I don't really care about 'pagan' worship. I don't WORSHIP the tree!

I view it as a reminder of the eternal life that we have been promised as faithful followers of God and our belief in Jesus' sacrifice for us on the cross.
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Why is it stupid to wish Jews happy hanukah?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30691125


for the same reason a biker has no reason to say to a driver, "nice car you got there"
 Quoting: Zeff


Sorry, but I don't follow.

Would you care to elaborate?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30691125


a biker is from a group/band of moto riders => rockon [link to a388.idata.over-blog.com]
they live bike the eat bike they sleep bike they even poop bike , it's their world, they have their rules and traditions, anyone outside of their group/band isnt part of them, thus a honda-civic driver coming by saying "nice bike you got there" would logically receive a very cold shower since he is not from the moto riders group but from the car drivers group/band, "what you know about our world moron, you are not a part of it, get lost".

Indeed he can ride bike on sunday and car drive on monday...he isnt dedicated to his own group/band but is a vagabond, an errand, lost in this world with no roots.

let each community have their ways and dont interfere one with each other, understanding the others is enough of a hard work. Look at the world, we havent gone over this step yet, let alone communities blending.
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All Muslims believe in Jesus too, you know?
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So do all kangaroos.
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Please don't let this thread be a representation of most. Enlightenment really does take a long time. I guess patience is the key here.
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how many of you christians think about christmas as Jesus (as) celebration rather than Santa (satan) celebration... ? what does the decorated tree has to do with Jesus (as) ? lolsign
"The Christmas tree is often explained as a Christianization of pagan tradition and ritual surrounding the winter solstice, which included the use of evergreen boughs, and an adaptation of pagan tree worship."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

muslims have no reason to wish anyone merry christmas, it's as stupid as wishing jews happy hanukah...muslims dont even celebrate Muhammad (as) birth since they dont know his birth date, that is for them not to worship him as christians worships Jesus (as) in spite of God. lolsign

each community its rituals and traditions.
 Quoting: Zeff


Christmas tree is an evergreen. A tree that REMAINS green even after all other trees have 'died' in a sense for the winter. I look on it as a sign of the EVERLASTING life that is promised to us as believers in Jesus.

I don't really care about 'pagan' worship. I don't WORSHIP the tree!

I view it as a reminder of the eternal life that we have been promised as faithful followers of God and our belief in Jesus' sacrifice for us on the cross.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2849260


i guess you see only the bright side of the stuff...the same way christians gives Jesus (as) a specific face and body without any of you seeing him or having a physical description of him "yea but it's a symbol we can use as a root to strenghten our faith".
What if he was short hair and chubby ? you have no clue and invent things here and there to make roots out of nowhere just to strenghten your weak faith. That's pure paganism.

Since your evergreen was used to be a worship material by pagans, faithfull christians shall leave it aside.
You cant be a christian and going in the shit of Santa and christmas tree , that's epic paganism.
Is Jesus (as) cradle scene not enough for you christians to remember about the rising of the Messiah ? [link to fromupabove.files.wordpress.com]

Has Jesus (as) mentionned anything about an evergreen ? ...why the hell you put pagan symbols on Jesus (as) annoucements of eternal life for believers ?
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Was thinking of sending the Lebanese Muslim community a Christmas ham as a thank you...
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


pig eating is also forbidden in christiansim as much as in judaism...great you talk without knowledge.
 Quoting: Zeff


Really I never knew... You mean some people actually don't eat pig? WOW... Not even wafer thin ham, that comes pre sliced in a vacuum pack? Thanks for enlightening me Ivan Drago.....
 Quoting: Sir Griffo

np hf

feel free to eat filthy animals that eat their own poop and cadavers lolsign

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Why are religious people so boring and prolix?
I seem to remember Jesus was quite witty and to the point.
Must have read the wrong book.
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Why are religious people so boring and prolix?
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catch 22
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Why is it stupid to wish Jews happy hanukah?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30691125


for the same reason a biker has no reason to say to a driver, "nice car you got there"
 Quoting: Zeff


Sorry, but I don't follow.

Would you care to elaborate?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30691125


a biker is from a group/band of moto riders => rockon [link to a388.idata.over-blog.com]
they live bike the eat bike they sleep bike they even poop bike , it's their world, they have their rules and traditions, anyone outside of their group/band isnt part of them, thus a honda-civic driver coming by saying "nice bike you got there" would logically receive a very cold shower since he is not from the moto riders group but from the car drivers group/band, "what you know about our world moron, you are not a part of it, get lost".

Indeed he can ride bike on sunday and car drive on monday...he isnt dedicated to his own group/band but is a vagabond, an errand, lost in this world with no roots.

let each community have their ways and dont interfere one with each other, understanding the others is enough of a hard work. Look at the world, we havent gone over this step yet, let alone communities blending.
 Quoting: Zeff


Okay, thanks. I see, I think.

So a Jew being wished "happy Hanukah" by a non-Jew would take that as an insult?

If someone wishes me a merry Christmas, I take that as an expression of good-will irregardless of their faith, and even though I am not a Christian.

I am still confused - maybe best to never say anything to anyone.

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Okay, thanks. I see, I think.

So a Jew being wished "happy Hanukah" by a non-Jew would take that as an insult?

If someone wishes me a merry Christmas, I take that as an expression of good-will irregardless of their faith, and even though I am not a Christian.

I am still confused - maybe best to never say anything to anyone.

Cheers,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30694440


well, extremists would take it as an insult, the others would raise their eyebrows as if an alien came talking to them out of nowhere "who the hell are you dude, you lost your way or something ?".

you shall make a great difference between those that cares of the meaning behind "Christmas" and those who care only about the name..."yay merry christmas ! errr wait what is christmas already ? bah whatever, let's enjoy the meal"

yea silence is gold, you may hurt someone's feelings without even knowing it.

muslims are not meant to wish merry christmas to christians (thus the fatwa), that's totally out of context since themselves dont celebrate that event....

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