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| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 12/23/2012 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | documents can't be attacked, only criticised, and the ammendment to the one you refer to is the most criticised piece of legislation on the planet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30662946 you going to deport all that criticise it ? The second amendment is on a document but is an inherent right. If people in foreign nations had a word for inherent, in their several languages, they would be able to understand the concept. In the United States, We The People understand, because we are fluent in English, that our rights do not exist by permission of a government or a dictator. They exist because they are INHERENT. Meaning, WE DON'T NEED PERMISSION TO EXERCISE AS A RIGHT. Shall we deport foreigners who publicly attack our inherent rights? You bet. If you don't get it, or won't get it, you don't belong here. IMHO - you have no idea what you're saying. The "right" as you call it is GIVEN by the document as interpreted by the courts. Nothing more. Guys like you scare the crap out of me since all you seem to understand is that you have your guns and love your guns and everything else doesn't matter. Guess what - you are supposed to live in a society, not be a self-styled vigilante with powerful weapons. But the society you live in does NOT believe what you say here. Nobody here was born with a gun as a "God-given right" or whatever BS you want to conjure up. Not you, not anyone. Respectfully, sir, I disagree with you with all of my heart. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7631061 12/23/2012 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Piers Morgan is a snake who speaks in a forked tongue. he is widely hated in the UK, hes just a pompous money grabber. its his way or the highway, he is a tool of the highest order. and he likes to tell lots and lots of lies and make stuff up. |
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| Mastema User ID: 29645223 12/23/2012 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | documents can't be attacked, only criticised, and the ammendment to the one you refer to is the most criticised piece of legislation on the planet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30662946 you going to deport all that criticise it ? The second amendment is on a document but is an inherent right. If people in foreign nations had a word for inherent, in their several languages, they would be able to understand the concept. In the United States, We The People understand, because we are fluent in English, that our rights do not exist by permission of a government or a dictator. They exist because they are INHERENT. Meaning, WE DON'T NEED PERMISSION TO EXERCISE AS A RIGHT. Shall we deport foreigners who publicly attack our inherent rights? You bet. If you don't get it, or won't get it, you don't belong here. True, but that didn't stop them from violating FISA or due process for citizens; they declared they had the authority to illegally wiretap and detain indefinitely if they held any kind of suspicion against a citizen. What is to stop them from violating other rights? Why didn't we do anything about the other illegal actions? When the rights granted to us by the law are violated by additional laws without changing the original laws through a constitutional convention then it seems illegal to me. I don't see why we would deport someone for exercising their freedom of speech. I am not sure that telling us to disarm ourselves amounts to inciting violence, although it may amount in some way to calling for illegal behavior. I don't know what he laws are in regard to this or what he laws on deportation are and I wont sign something that could be calling for something that isn't within the legal framework. I'm not sure that what he did constitutes legality for deportation or anything because people do it all the time. Either way, the federal government has already violated the constitution and nobody did anything about it. It would seem that the Supreme Court has failed us and has not exercised their legal responsibility. People will stand up this time but it's sad that they don't stand up for each right they are granted by the bill of rights, which are inalienable save for a constitutional convention that would amend them. I would not support any kind of change to them. If anyone is breaking the law it's the government; I guess they feel they have no way of changing our rights the legal way, because the people won't stand for it. Last Edited by Mastema on 12/23/2012 07:58 PM “If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. ... We need not wait to see what others do.” -Mahatma Ghandi |
| Janus198 (OP) User ID: 875736 12/23/2012 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have heard he loves it in the U.S and is going to apply for American citizenship as soon as he can, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7631061 ![]() Everybody loves America. Then they attempt to dismantle what it is, and what made it what it is, so it will be more like where they came from. Hope you'll all check out the petition here, and send the link to others who may be interested in signing. [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Janus198 |
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| Mastema User ID: 29645223 12/23/2012 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I.e. there are people higher on the list who need to be tried for treason and/or deported. “If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. ... We need not wait to see what others do.” -Mahatma Ghandi |
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| Janus198 (OP) User ID: 875736 12/23/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | documents can't be attacked, only criticised, and the ammendment to the one you refer to is the most criticised piece of legislation on the planet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30662946 you going to deport all that criticise it ? The second amendment is on a document but is an inherent right. If people in foreign nations had a word for inherent, in their several languages, they would be able to understand the concept. In the United States, We The People understand, because we are fluent in English, that our rights do not exist by permission of a government or a dictator. They exist because they are INHERENT. Meaning, WE DON'T NEED PERMISSION TO EXERCISE AS A RIGHT. Shall we deport foreigners who publicly attack our inherent rights? You bet. If you don't get it, or won't get it, you don't belong here. True but that didn't stop them from violating FISA or due process for citizens, they declared they had the authority to illegally wiretap and detain indefinitely if they held any kind of suspicion against a citizen. What is to stop them from violating other rights? Why didn't we do anything about the other illegal actions? When the rights granted to us by the law are violated by additional laws without changing the original laws through a constitutional convention then it seems illegal to me. I don't see why we would deport someone for exercising their freedom of speech. I am not sure that telling us to disarm ourselves amounts to inciting violence, although it may amount in some way to calling for illegal behavior. I don't know what he laws are in regard to this or what he laws on deportation are and I wont sign something that could be calling for something that isn't within the legal framework. I'm not sure that what he did constitutes legality for deportation or anything because people do it all the time. Either way, the federal government has already violated the constitution and nobody did anything about it. It would seem that the Supreme Court has failed us and has not exercised their legal responsibility. People will stand up this time but it's sad that they don't stand up for each right they are granted by the bill of rights, which are inalienable save for a constitutional convention that would amend them. I would not support any kind of change to them. If anyone is breaking the law it's the government; I guess they feel they have no way of changing our rights the legal way, because the people won't stand for it. You aren't there yet, but everybody has to make a stand sooner or later. Here is the petition. (You might want to review the vids of the Piers Morgan interviews on youtube) Deport British Citizen Piers Morgan for Attacking 2nd Amendment British Citizen and CNN television host Piers Morgan is engaged in a hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution by targeting the Second Amendment. We demand that Mr. Morgan be deported immediately for his effort to undermine the Bill of Rights and for exploiting his position as a national network television host to stage attacks against the rights of American citizens. Created: Dec 21, 2012 Signatures are being added at about 500 per hour today. With this petition growing, and dropping viewership plus complaints at CNN, Piers Morgan's career could become too big a liability for the network. The network is not the least bit interested in the Constitution of course, as I am, but this is a lesson that can be taught to the NWO, by We The People, that is legal, moral and non-violent. Attack on the 2nd amendment WILL. NOT. BE. TOLERATED. We don't get many chances to do this. Would like to thank the petition creator, Kurt N, in Texas for giving us this chance. Link to sign is here. [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Janus198 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3033833 12/23/2012 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I.e. there are people higher on the list who need to be tried for treason and/or deported. Quoting: Mastema very true.. so is.. it only takes a snowflake to cause an avalanche. i honestly dont care / think anything will become of this petition. however... for any who dont really 'get it'... all the 'rights' taken from americans are not something tangible... but guns are.. and they are the only thing stopping a full on police state here... even though it is manifest more and more every day. piers is just 'a' straw that broke the camels back.. or so it would seem from all the heated opinions in this thread. who cares.. they have already said.. there will be no door to door.. and over 900 weapons are exempt. [link to politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com] "We believe we have (perfected it). We exempt over 900 specific weapons that will not fall under the bill, but the purpose of this bill is to get … 'weapons of war' off the street of our cities," she said. |
| Janus198 (OP) User ID: 875736 12/23/2012 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I.e. there are people higher on the list who need to be tried for treason and/or deported. Quoting: Mastema very true.. so is.. it only takes a snowflake to cause an avalanche. i honestly dont care / think anything will become of this petition. however... for any who dont really 'get it'... all the 'rights' taken from americans are not something tangible... but guns are.. and they are the only thing stopping a full on police state here... even though it is manifest more and more every day. piers is just 'a' straw that broke the camels back.. or so it would seem from all the heated opinions in this thread. who cares.. they have already said.. there will be no door to door.. and over 900 weapons are exempt. [link to politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com] "We believe we have (perfected it). We exempt over 900 specific weapons that will not fall under the bill, but the purpose of this bill is to get … 'weapons of war' off the street of our cities," she said. This thread is not about illegal gun legislation. It's about an attack on the 2nd amendment by a foreign national, living and working within the US. The petition is calling for deportation of this criminal, Piers Morgan. The bill to ban weapons, no matter how many are exempt, is unconstitutional. The purpose of the bill is to make it impossible for American citizens to organize and arm an effective militia as is our inherent right, to counter invasion, or domestic attack in our defense. Janus198 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3033833 12/23/2012 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I.e. there are people higher on the list who need to be tried for treason and/or deported. Quoting: Mastema very true.. so is.. it only takes a snowflake to cause an avalanche. i honestly dont care / think anything will become of this petition. however... for any who dont really 'get it'... all the 'rights' taken from americans are not something tangible... but guns are.. and they are the only thing stopping a full on police state here... even though it is manifest more and more every day. piers is just 'a' straw that broke the camels back.. or so it would seem from all the heated opinions in this thread. who cares.. they have already said.. there will be no door to door.. and over 900 weapons are exempt. [link to politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com] "We believe we have (perfected it). We exempt over 900 specific weapons that will not fall under the bill, but the purpose of this bill is to get … 'weapons of war' off the street of our cities," she said. This thread is not about illegal gun legislation. It's about an attack on the 2nd amendment by a foreign national, living and working within the US. The petition is calling for deportation of this criminal, Piers Morgan. The bill to ban weapons, no matter how many are exempt, is unconstitutional. The purpose of the bill is to make it impossible for American citizens to organize and arm an effective militia as is our inherent right, to counter invasion, or domestic attack in our defense. i am fully aware of the purpose of this thread if you have had a chance to read my prior posts in it. however.. (opinion) you cannot have the what 'i'want to do.. (export piers) without a why i want to. and these statements.. IF meant in an absolute way.. are not true. "The bill to ban weapons, no matter how many are exempt, is unconstitutional. The purpose of the bill is to make it impossible for American citizens to organize and arm an effective militia as is our inherent right, to counter invasion, or domestic attack in our defense." ... weapons? such as 500 megaton nukes? or did you mean types of small arms? and will be 'impossible' to organize and defend? i feel that is a stretch as well. now.. it may seem that i am arguing with you.. i am not.. i am trying to verify that facts are facts.. and opinions are just that. just for the record.. i am no fan of collective punishment for another's wrong.. ive had more than my fair share in the army. so i hear ya about its all illegal... i just dont think the obama admin will do anything about piers but laugh.. and the gun legislation, which is the center of piers' problem is a real fact coming done the pike. so i leave my opinion at that.. and sorry if it seems i was off topic in the thread with my last post. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30236959 12/23/2012 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks, you cleared up my questions Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9094168 i am english not british. but i dont expect you to understand the difference. Hmmm...I understand the difference. England is one country within the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The other countries are Scotland, Wales and N.I. Scotland is semi-independent with it's own parliament/assembly, prints it's own money, has laws unique to Scotland within the UK, etc., Wales is administratively part of England and follows English law, but has a Welsh Assembly. England is ruled exclusively by the UK government and has no independent English Assembly. N.I. has it's own assembly, also. I understand completely many British people will refer to themselves as 'English', 'Scottish', 'Welsh', 'Irish'...although Irish unionist will generally identify themselves as British. I know all this and am a dumb fucking Yank. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30236959 12/23/2012 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Piers Morgan is a snake who speaks in a forked tongue. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7631061 he is widely hated in the UK, hes just a pompous money grabber. its his way or the highway, he is a tool of the highest order. and he likes to tell lots and lots of lies and make stuff up. WTF is up with the pretentious name 'Piers'? And how does his smirk come across in the UK? The man has a permanent smirk on his face. Other than that, he's entitled to his opinion. He's a prick, but entitled to be a prick and to be paid well for it. |
| sonic doom User ID: 11391214 12/23/2012 09:07 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Piers Morgan is a snake who speaks in a forked tongue. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7631061 he is widely hated in the UK, hes just a pompous money grabber. its his way or the highway, he is a tool of the highest order. and he likes to tell lots and lots of lies and make stuff up. WTF is up with the pretentious name 'Piers'? And how does his smirk come across in the UK? The man has a permanent smirk on his face. Other than that, he's entitled to his opinion. He's a prick, but entitled to be a prick and to be paid well for it. Pissant Piers is a homo who wants to suck on Ted Nugents barrel. "you mmmmmmake me happy" ~Simple Jack |
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| Team Uzi User ID: 27855136 12/23/2012 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.gematrix.org] Piers Morgan = praise be to allah Last Edited by Team Uzi on 12/23/2012 09:29 PM "It's easy to fool people. The hard part is convincing them that they've been fooled." -Mark Twain [link to farm9.staticflickr.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14236522 12/23/2012 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The OP is 100% correct and all of the small-time shills are out with their petty insults. If you are not a US citizen, you ARE protected under the constitution, HOWEVER, you have absolutely NO RIGHT to use those rights to ATTACK those same rights given to you... much less on your own TV show... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 986356 This guy needs to be deported, and all the real citizens that want gun control need a serious reality check. Unfortunately, that reality check is coming full steam. I'll say it again... |
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