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How does a ~110 lbs kid (working alone)...

1. Shoot through a bulletproof glass door making a hole large enough to walk though using an just the AR (16 bullets) which is the official story as of now?

2. Have the schools power go out moments after the first shot is fired, killing all video surveillance, and electronically controlled door locks.

-Powerout
Fox News Interview of a Student (video)
"We were just in the middle of gym, when we heard gunshots, then the power (muffled) went out."
[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net] (video)
(sorry for the crappy link... wish it was on YouTube... this is a VERY important video clip for multiple reasons so I do suggest you watch it... notice anything else weird that this girl says? Anyways I'll get to that at the end....).

-Doors Would Not Lock
"Once the shooting began, Mr Varga tried to lock the door to the conference room. When he found out the door would not lock, the teacher then ran down a smoke-filled hallway to safety but turned back to help his fellow staff escape." (also notice the mention of smoke-filled hallways... haven't heard that mentioned much before either)
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

3. Carry so much stuff, yet have professional marksman aim!!!
(I find it funny it is taking them so long to announce OFFICIALLY the weapon count & type... they have to be very careful what weapons "they" announce here which is why they are taking so long).

-We know he had at least 1 pistol (at very least used to "kill himself"). It will most likely be officially announced as 2 (one used on the administrative staff at the front of the school, and a single bullet from the 2nd pistol to "kill himself"...) but lets just call it 1 pistol for now.

-We know he had at least 1 AR as officially it an AR was used for most the injuries/deaths (although MULTIPLE are mentioned by first responding at ~4:48 in the first link of this post "be advised we have multiple weapons, including long gun(S) & shotgun(S)". But again lets stick with just 1 since no one is being very transparent with us about wtf was found.

-We know he had at least 1 shotgun (again the quote above mentions multiple but lets stick with 1 for now). I believe officially they will only announce 1 shotgun total... meaning the one in the trunk and that there were none found inside the school.... let's call it a hunch... but hey lets go with their story for now that at least 1 shotgun is also found inside the school.

-Extra ammo for the guns. From what I recall hearing officially there was at least 3 clips of ammo used for the AR (16 bullets into the front door, and the rest used later in the classroom(s)). I have heard no mention about other extra clips that may of been on scene, so we will just stick with 3 extra clips for an AR (even though there was likely other extra ammo on scene as well).

-We have accounts of the hallways being filled with smoke. Since there was no account of a fire magically starting we can only assume it was smoke grenades (similar to the Aurora shootings... how interesting). So lets say 1 smoke grenade, even though it was most likely multiple.

-He was apparently wearing body armor (I assume has to weigh 10 or more lbs at least...).

-At least 1 smoke grenade (most likely multiple)

-He was apparently also wearing a mask (which would restrict breathing and be especially exhausting if doing something as active as running around shooting people (I can't think of any situation which could possibly raise your heart rate higher/faster) all the while carrying all that extra weight. A mask would also somewhat restrict vision, yet "Adam" from the official version sounds like he had a well above expected hit/miss ratio considering the person/situation.

Ok so here we have it...
-1 pistol (most likely 2 pistols)
-1 AR (even though multiple are mentioned, in the end it will likely be reported 1 AR total... again a hunch.)
-1 Shotgun (again even though multiple are mentioned. I think in the final story it will be 1 total (the one in the trunk... but how did it get there if it was at one point inside the school to be seen? I won't get into that now)
-Full ammo for all 3+ weapons + at least 3 clips of extra ammo for the AR (most likely more ammo for all the weapons).
-a ~10 lbs bulletproof vest.
-1 Smoke Grenade (most likely more)
-A mask which would restrict vision/breathing (and having in the first place makes no sense if you plan on killing yourself).

Doesn't that seem like a lot of weight for a ~110 kid to be carrying around without issue while having professional accuracy none the less?

Anyways just curious about peoples thoughts on the 3 points I mentioned above.



...Oh and on a side note I am also kind of curious why no one seems to be mentioning the 3 people should of been taken into custody based on radio/video evidence but only 1 ended up being taken in... and that 1 man was later let go. How does 2 become 1 become 0 (~15 min delay) become 1 in custody?

Lastly and BY FAR most important, why is it that no one seems to be questions how 2 police were inside the school DURING the shooting... yes you heard that right.

"then police men came in, and they um just like asked if um he was in here. But then we had climbed to the closets and um we heard more gunshots..."
[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net]
(again sorry for the crappy link... really which is IMPORTANT video was on youtube)

Really? (2) Police ask you if you have seen him and then shortly after that there was more gunshots? Why did no one on the police scanner report first hand shots fired at any point? Why is it commonly believed that the first police didn't show up 10-20 mins after shooting stopped when in fact based on this little girl they were inside when the shooting was happening (and even based on police scanner recording shows 2 police inside the school in less then ~2 after shooting stopped...) and how the hell were 2 police officers already inside the school DURING the shooting to begin with? (and coincidentally both don't use their police radio's until after the shooting stops and play the most important police roll of the day, chasing 2 people/suspects, announcing the wrong weapons on scene, finding Adam's body... as heard in the first link of this post...)?

I won't push my theory to hard on people... but I think you get the jist of where you should start putting some of your research/focus. Timeline the events/police activity using any "official" audio/video you can about the event and see if you come up with a similar "discrepancy" that doesn't seem to at all be mentioned... who were the 2 police INSIDE the school magically DURING the shooting (police presence during the actual shooting goes directly against the official story by the way... yet can be proven) and why didn't they use their police radio's until after more police arrived on scene ~2-3 minutes later (and why were both these men so interested in drawing attention away from the schools back door, and constantly reinforcing the idea for the other early responding police to watch the front entrance on the police scanners?).

Makes ya think...

I guess now I just wait for the shill attacks to come huh? 1dunno1
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Oops forgot to include the police scanner recording from that day which I refer to a few times... anyways the recording is below.

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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
very good
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By the same kind of magic that has affected everything else in this "event".
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Nice summary of what I am sure, after reading all the post on GLP this past week, many of us have been thinking. Would it not be cool if we all, together, actually started a thread, why not here, or a page with a white board, and built a time lime (complete with where the data for the timeline came from). Problem is, it would be riddled with idiots and shills and arguments would turn to everything other than what the task was at hand. I think we should at least try though.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Nice summary of what I am sure, after reading all the post on GLP this past week, many of us have been thinking. Would it not be cool if we all, together, actually started a thread, why not here, or a page with a white board, and built a time lime (complete with where the data for the timeline came from). Problem is, it would be riddled with idiots and shills and arguments would turn to everything other than what the task was at hand. I think we should at least try though.
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Agreed. I am sure the shills will arrive at any minute since this is indisputable evidence that no one seems to be focusing on...

Here is a quick jist of who I think was involved based on my research...

2 operatives (on duty police) on scene before the incident to do the actual killing. 1 in the front, 1 in the back, both dressed the same (camo pants, black jacket & mask + gloves) later switching clothing with the patsy and the cleaner (think of the movie inside man for the basic concept), each operative is assigned to 2 weapons, 1 small (2 pistols, 1 each), 1 small(1 shotgun(front op), 1 AR (back op)).

1 Patsy. Adam Lanza, which is later given op 2's clothing to match witness accounts (op 1 gives his clothing to the cleaner).

1 "civilian" which gains access to the school before the shooting using valid means, and opens the back door at a set time for the 2nd operative (classroom killer) & Adam the patsy.

The civilian (cleaner) based on radio/video evidence by the way is 2 people at first, once cought 2 becomes 1 person, which is never actually taken into custody (since the same guy that apparently cought him is back inside the school less then a minute later(and remember on scene police at this time is VERY LIMITED), and then ~15 mins later is taken into custody being found in the woods (his daughter by the way goes to the school and survived the event and was there helping her build a gingerbread house (remember how I said gained access though valid means?)). He is shortly after let go due in mainly I am sure to the first responding police (the 2 op's) vouching for him not being involved.

There is a lot more to this story then we are being told...
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
i remember them saying his mother prepared his meals for him,why, was he too stupid to cook food, when she left for a trip to n.h. she prepared all his meals,
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No smoke?

I guess YOU'VE never fired a hundred or more rifle rounds inside an enclosed space in the matter of minutes?

Smokeless powder isn't totally smokeless.

That would also kick up a lot of dust and debris.
"Everybody lies."
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No smoke?

I guess YOU'VE never fired a hundred or more rifle rounds inside an enclosed space in the matter of minutes?

Smokeless powder isn't totally smokeless.

That would also kick up a lot of dust and debris.
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True, the smoke could have been caused simply by gunfire.

That being said lets try to keep focus on the more important points made in my original post as the smoke in the halls was one of the less important points (I only added that point because I found it odd when reading that article, and up to this point hadn't heard about smoke in the halls at all).
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
It's called tactical armour dipshit...look it up it can hold all that...learn before you speak
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i remember them saying his mother prepared his meals for him,why, was he too stupid to cook food, when she left for a trip to n.h. she prepared all his meals,
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Over mothering and schizophrenia seem to go hand in hand.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
It's called tactical armour dipshit...look it up it can hold all that...learn before you speak
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Go strap a ~50 lbs weight to a ~100 lbs kids chest and see how far he can move before he collapses... my point isn't the about the armor type... my point is how does a skinny ass kid carry half his body weight in equipment, while wearing a mask restricting his breathing/vision run around doing a killing spree... most 100 lbs people would barely be able to move... let alone walk around killing people with high accuracy.
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i´ll go with pharma drugs will give you super powers!


all hail the pharma drugs... not.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
i remember them saying his mother prepared his meals for him,why, was he too stupid to cook food, when she left for a trip to n.h. she prepared all his meals,
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Over mothering and schizophrenia seem to go hand in hand.
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Aspberger's is NOT schizophrenia.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
It's called tactical armour dipshit...look it up it can hold all that...learn before you speak
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Go strap a ~50 lbs weight to a ~100 lbs kids chest and see how far he can move before he collapses... my point isn't the about the armor type... my point is how does a skinny ass kid carry half his body weight in equipment, while wearing a mask restricting his breathing/vision run around doing a killing spree... most 100 lbs people would barely be able to move... let alone walk around killing people with high accuracy.
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At most that's 20 pounds...logic fail
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
We KNOW it was staged.

Bottom line, the majority of sheep still believe the BS story, and NOTHING will change.

Just like 9/11... Obviously staged, we all know. But did anything happen to the people planning it?? NOPE...

So once again, NOTHING will come of this. Just move on...

These people are untouchable. They will always Hwy away with this shit. Learn to accept it!
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
It's called tactical armour dipshit...look it up it can hold all that...learn before you speak
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spelled it wrong shill
ARMOR

tactical ARMOR

and this has many different types and weights...so
what is your point here.
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Anyone who has handled the gear that is listed here KNOWS, this event has a lot more to it than the official story.

No way possible for a kid that size to operate with such clinical precision with that kind of load out.

Not in 20 minutes, not in 2 hours.
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It's called tactical armour dipshit...look it up it can hold all that...learn before you speak
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It can, but that doesn't mean it is easy to move.

No one knows exactly what kind of gear he had on, body armor is very vague.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
It's called tactical armour dipshit...look it up it can hold all that...learn before you speak
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Go strap a ~50 lbs weight to a ~100 lbs kids chest and see how far he can move before he collapses... my point isn't the about the armor type... my point is how does a skinny ass kid carry half his body weight in equipment, while wearing a mask restricting his breathing/vision run around doing a killing spree... most 100 lbs people would barely be able to move... let alone walk around killing people with high accuracy.
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At most that's 20 pounds...logic fail
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20 lbs ARMOR this could go up to 50 lbs they never said what the armor was
10 lbs extra ammo and any thing else he had
8 lbs for the hand guns
8 lbs for the AR 15
8 lbs for the shot gun

total 54 lbs

his weight was what 110lbs?????

yup 1/2 his body weight.

if you want to say this is wrong please give the OP your links.
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
i remember them saying his mother prepared his meals for him,why, was he too stupid to cook food, when she left for a trip to n.h. she prepared all his meals,
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Over mothering and schizophrenia seem to go hand in hand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30022927



Aspberger's is NOT schizophrenia.
 Quoting: Hahahahaha 28872856


Autistic/Asberegers children have an 80% chance of developing schizphrenia or other mental disorders in adulthood...
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Did the coroner ever report what gun/round was used in his 'apparent' suicide?
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
i remember them saying his mother prepared his meals for him,why, was he too stupid to cook food, when she left for a trip to n.h. she prepared all his meals,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26548545


Over mothering and schizophrenia seem to go hand in hand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30022927



Aspberger's is NOT schizophrenia.
 Quoting: Hahahahaha 28872856


Autistic/Asberegers children have an 80% chance of developing schizphrenia or other mental disorders in adulthood...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


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It's called tactical armour dipshit...look it up it can hold all that...learn before you speak
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Go strap a ~50 lbs weight to a ~100 lbs kids chest and see how far he can move before he collapses... my point isn't the about the armor type... my point is how does a skinny ass kid carry half his body weight in equipment, while wearing a mask restricting his breathing/vision run around doing a killing spree... most 100 lbs people would barely be able to move... let alone walk around killing people with high accuracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28724521


At most that's 20 pounds...logic fail
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Hmm, you obviously either don't know a single thing about all this, are a shill, or, can't add and subtract.
The MINIMUM weight of a vest is 25 lbs, add ammo, .223 weight at 30 round clips, maybe a bandolier, they never have said HOW he carried the ammo you know, a sig loaded by itself is heavy enough to give some smaller people trouble raising it, let alone pointing it, clips for that weapon, a shotgun? geez, it is difficult for our military to carry all that stuff and you state that it's just 20 lbs. You Fail Miserably, I might add.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
It's called tactical armour dipshit...look it up it can hold all that...learn before you speak
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5962630


Go strap a ~50 lbs weight to a ~100 lbs kids chest and see how far he can move before he collapses... my point isn't the about the armor type... my point is how does a skinny ass kid carry half his body weight in equipment, while wearing a mask restricting his breathing/vision run around doing a killing spree... most 100 lbs people would barely be able to move... let alone walk around killing people with high accuracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28724521


At most that's 20 pounds...logic fail
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5962630

20 lbs ARMOR this could go up to 50 lbs they never said what the armor was
10 lbs extra ammo and any thing else he had
8 lbs for the hand guns
8 lbs for the AR 15
8 lbs for the shot gun

total 54 lbs

his weight was what 110lbs?????

yup 1/2 his body weight.

if you want to say this is wrong please give the OP your links.
 Quoting: psyoptics


And, lets not forget that the msm keeps stating that he had PLENTY of ammo, which means that he had to have had tons of clips or a can or a bandolier to carry it all.
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Over mothering and schizophrenia seem to go hand in hand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30022927



Aspberger's is NOT schizophrenia.
 Quoting: Hahahahaha 28872856


Autistic/Asberegers children have an 80% chance of developing schizphrenia or other mental disorders in adulthood...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


bsflag
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[link to psychcentral.com]

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

[link to dspace.ou.nl]

I have a nephew that had autism...now, at 22, FULL-BLOWN SCHIZOPHRENIA!
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Aspberger's is NOT schizophrenia.
 Quoting: Hahahahaha 28872856


Autistic/Asberegers children have an 80% chance of developing schizphrenia or other mental disorders in adulthood...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30703275


[link to psychcentral.com]

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

[link to dspace.ou.nl]

I have a nephew that had autism...now, at 22, FULL-BLOWN SCHIZOPHRENIA!
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They do not say what I bsed. Saying it is on the same gene is not to say they are the same thing or if you have aspergers (which isn't autism) you will develop schizophrenia.

BTW, I have aspergers, asshole. So does my nephew. So do several of my friends.

You really are clueless. You misread and provide typical GLP bullshit. You show you have no reading comprehension and just want to label people.
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Aspberger's is NOT schizophrenia.
 Quoting: Hahahahaha 28872856


Autistic/Asberegers children have an 80% chance of developing schizphrenia or other mental disorders in adulthood...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30703275


[link to psychcentral.com]

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

[link to dspace.ou.nl]

I have a nephew that had autism...now, at 22, FULL-BLOWN SCHIZOPHRENIA!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


The upcoming generation of ZOMBIES...could be the pharmaceutical POISONS they pump into the children...couild be the non-nuturing parents, more concerned with $$$/job/SELF...could be 'THEIR' plan all along....
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Autistic/Asberegers children have an 80% chance of developing schizphrenia or other mental disorders in adulthood...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30703275


[link to psychcentral.com]

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

[link to dspace.ou.nl]

I have a nephew that had autism...now, at 22, FULL-BLOWN SCHIZOPHRENIA!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


They do not say what I bsed. Saying it is on the same gene is not to say they are the same thing or if you have aspergers (which isn't autism) you will develop schizophrenia.

BTW, I have aspergers, asshole. So does my nephew. So do several of my friends.

You really are clueless. You misread and provide typical GLP bullshit. You show you have no reading comprehension and just want to label people.
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Make sure you all STAY ON YOUR MEDS!
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bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30703275


[link to psychcentral.com]

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

[link to dspace.ou.nl]

I have a nephew that had autism...now, at 22, FULL-BLOWN SCHIZOPHRENIA!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


They do not say what I bsed. Saying it is on the same gene is not to say they are the same thing or if you have aspergers (which isn't autism) you will develop schizophrenia.

BTW, I have aspergers, asshole. So does my nephew. So do several of my friends.

You really are clueless. You misread and provide typical GLP bullshit. You show you have no reading comprehension and just want to label people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30703275


Make sure you all STAY ON YOUR MEDS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


More retarded GLP response. Many with aspergers are not on meds. I'm not. My nephew isn't. Sorry, more fail.