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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
If someone went through every single Thread on Sandy Hook since it happened, and all the details people remember, and all the comments from people actually living in the area where it happened... they would have the makings of a book.

I know that someone reported on GLP seeing a video of the school which showed two white, unmarked 18-wheeler tractor trailers, parked at the side. The person was surprised. What were they doing there?

To transport what, or to transport whom -- in or out?

Think I can find it now? No way.
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Best guess: Film trucks recording activity. Please recall that there was a white van, with a crew, who filmed 9/11.

Now 'they' have a recording of how people will react under these circumstances. Helps them set up for control.

I do not suggest that no people were murdered in the school. We just don't know who, or how many were actually killed.
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If someone went through every single Thread on Sandy Hook since it happened, and all the details people remember, and all the comments from people actually living in the area where it happened... they would have the makings of a book.

I know that someone reported on GLP seeing a video of the school which showed two white, unmarked 18-wheeler tractor trailers, parked at the side. The person was surprised. What were they doing there?

To transport what, or to transport whom -- in or out?

Think I can find it now? No way.
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Best guess: Film trucks recording activity. Please recall that there was a white van, with a crew, who filmed 9/11.

Now 'they' have a recording of how people will react under these circumstances. Helps them set up for control.

I do not suggest that no people were murdered in the school. We just don't know who, or how many were actually killed.
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FEMA trucks loaded with coffins?
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Parties Involved
-2 operatives (both on duty police)
-1 cleaner (civilian)
-1 patsy (Adam Lanza)

Operation Prep (again I had to speculate for this part on what "likely" happened as there is 0 information about what took place at Adam's house... other then the mom died... weapons and her car were taken, and his computer was smashed.)

2 on duty police (1 car) go to Adams moms house early in the morning of the event and go up to her door and knock. They wake her up (still in pajama's which match official story), and tell her a distraction story to gain access to the house (such as your older son "Ryan" has been killed). She lets them in and is frantic as one would expect. They ask is anyone else in the house (knowing there is) then offers something like "would you like me to take Adam for a drive while the other officer gives you the details? Adam is fairly young, and has a mental illness (aspergers) so she would likely prefer that he not see/hear this right now as he wouldn't easily understand. The mom calls down for Adam to come upstairs. People suffering from aspergers even at Adams age normally don't like doing things when told by someone they don't know, and Adam's mom likely told Adam to go with and do whatever this man tells you (otherwise he would likely go into a fit of frustration if his mom wasn't the one that told him, but if she did he would likely be more then willing to do what was asked... his mom tells him to do it... they are police... there is no threat... he knows nothing about the fake Ryan dead story being told to his mother). The officer then brings Adam outside and puts him in the back of the police car and goes back in and makes up a lie about "another" police being out there to drive Adam around while we discuss the details (meanwhile Adam is actually outside in the back of the police car alone). They then start feeding her more details about Ryans death (all made up of course) and ask her if she has anything of Ryan's such as a picture or ideally an old ID (I know when I was that age I use to keep my old ID's... I would give them to my mom and say "I don't know if I still need this", and she would just take it and store it somewhere). She goes to get it from her room upstairs. Once she is upstairs 1 police goes downstairs to gain access to and prep the 4 patsy guns, the other yells up stalling the mom asking her questions "what age was Ryan", "when was the last time you saw him"... and eventually makes his way up stairs as if hes having a hard time hearing her answers. She's in her room at this point looking for a picture/ID of Ryan, which we can assume she found (the ID found in Adams pocket... I'll get into that more later) and hands it to the officer which is now standing in/near her room (most likely right in the door to her room). The 2nd police then makes his way upstairs with 1 of the 4 guns (AR) and shoot her dead on the bed (matches official story). They go downstairs and smash his computer (matches official story, and is used to draw extra attention to Adam being the killer... why else would he smash his computer right? also to possibly destroy some form of traceable evidence (maybe they also spoke to Adam via the internet before all this went down)) Anyways, they then take the 4 prepped and ready weapons (1 of which was used to kill her... again matching official story), grab her car keys (match official story) and put the weapons in the trunks of the car(s) (2 in each car... 1 pistol & 1 AR in the police car with 1 police & Adam and 1 pistol & 1 shotgun in Adam's moms car which the other officer will now drive).

Once the mother is killed, the patsy vehicle is obtained, the patsy is obtained, and the patsy weapons are obtained they make a call to their civilian counterpart (the cleaner) to make sure he is in position. The cleaner arrives at the school well before the shooting, for a legitimate reason and is buzzed in willingly (in this SPECIFIC case the cleaner was their helping his daughters class build gingerbread houses... her class was not shot up and this mans daughter lived the event unharmed... go figure). Anyways the cleaners first job is complete, he has access to the inside of the school well before the shooting, gets the call from the 2 police and says he's in position and will be ready at the "scheduled time".

So just to clarify before going into the op itself... that's 3 cars total, 4 people total.
-Adam's Moms car = operative 1... 1 pistol + 1 shotgun = On way to school
-1 Police Car = operative 2 + patsy Adam... 1 pistol + 1 AR = On way to school
-Cleaners Car = no weapons = At school ahead of time

Also before going into the op I should mention the clothing adjustments that would be made before arriving at the school (you will see why this is important in a minute).
Operative 1 = Mask, Dark Jacket (with dark shirt), Camo Pants, Gloves... with his police uniform under it
Operative 2 = Mask (not wearing yet), Dark Jacket (with dark shirt), Camo Pants, Gloves (not wearing yet).... also with his police uniform under it
***Not that WITHOUT the MASK on these outfits would not draw a lot of suspicious attention (dark jacket/camo pants)... fact is you could blend in fairly well with it (until shots are fired that is).
Adam = Irrelevant
Cleaner = Irrelevant


The Black Op
The 2 operatives show up at the school in their 2 separate vehicles at around the same time (again both are dressed the same... this is a key point to remember). Operative 1's job is to breech the front door and take care of the administrative staff, Operative 2's job is the 2 classroom (with his entry made though the back door)... both men will "appear" to be the same person based on eyewitness accounts (due to them looking identical and never being seen at the same place at the same time... ever see the movie Inside Man?).

So basically how I see it going down...

Operative 1 arrives in Adams moms car puts his mask/gloves on (again dressed in a dark shirt & jacket with camo pants), goes to his trunk and grabs the 2 weapons he has (1 pistol, 1 shotgun) and heads to the entrance of the school (he doesn't have to be subtle about it... people are going to think hes Adam in a few minutes... and why wouldn't they... everything lines up so far). At the same time Operative 2 gets out of the police car (again wearing a dark shirt & jacket with camo pants & gloves), puts the mask in his pocket & also grabs the 2 weapons he has from the trunk (1 pistol, 1 AR). Operative 2 would have to be more subtle then Operative 1 as he will be entering from an "unofficial" entry point (the back door) so the pistol would be 100% hidden, and the AR would be tucked under his jacket as much as possible (the patsy Adam would be made to walk in front of him to assist in hiding the mostly concealed AR as they make their way towards the back of the school). Also anyone in the area that is paying attention to their surroundings would be more focused on Op 1 which blatantly has a mask on with an exposed shotgun in hand on the front lawn (so Op 2 would have little issue being basically unnoticed making his way to the back entrance with the needed patsy).

OK so quick update
-Operative 1 going towards front entrance, mask and all, holding a shotgun...
-Operative 2 going towards the back entrance, mask hidden, guns hidden, with the Patsy Adam...
-Cleaner inside the school waiting for his signal to open the back door (signal being front entrance breech).

Operative 1 then uses the shotgun (first shots fired) to blow out the "bulletproof" security glass of the front entrance door making his way into the school... keep in mind multiple shots would be needed to do this... even with a high powered shotgun (the official story is he used a total of 16 AR rounds to breech the front door which I believe to be false).

The Cleaner hearing his signal (entrance breech) opens the back door of the school and lets Operative 2 & Adam into the school. The schools security system at this point would light up letting the secretary know the back door has been opened from the inside... except a second after being let in the school's power goes out.....
"We were just in the middle of gym, when we heard gunshots, then the power (muffled) went out."
[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net]

All video surveillance, and power locks at this point stopped working (go figure).
"Once the shooting began, Mr Varga tried to lock the door to the conference room. When he found out the door would not lock, the teacher then ran down a smoke-filled hallway to safety but turned back to help his fellow staff escape."
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

After the power goes out operative 2 enters and gets into position outside the first target classroom putting on his mask and waiting for his signal (his signal being operative 1's pistol fire to finish).

Operative 1 just entering the school through the hole he breached, uses the pistol to shoot at the administrative office near the front of the school (where the principle was... or the people most likely to cause "trouble" from a black-op perspective)... from what I understand killing 4 adults and wounding 2 in this front area. He then starts making his way towards Operative 2 through the interior of the school.

Operative 2 at this time hearing his signal (pistol fire ending) waits ~5 seconds and then opens the first target classroom door and using the 1 AR shoots as many people as he can and then moves on to the 2nd classroom (again with the AR) and does the same then goes outside in the hall to meet up with the others.

So just as an update to this point both operatives, the cleaner and the patsy are now all together in the hallway outside of the 2 target classrooms and MOST the shooting that took place (at least the entrance/classroom shooting) is finished (although more shots will be fired).

Evidence Cleanup / Patsy Setup / "Official" Police Arrival
Operative 1 takes off his outfit (mask, gloves, dark shirt, dark jacket, camo pants) and gives it to the cleaner to wear which puts it on over his current clothing (the mask and gloves he takes but doesn't actually wear... these he will stash in his own car later on...). Operative 1 has his police uniform on under it.
While that is happening Operative 2 (who did the majority of the killing via the classrooms) makes his way to the front office shoots at the general "front door area" and again shooting at the administrative staff or whoever else happens to still be in that area (which is why AR rounds are found there... only because they lapped back). Anyways operative 2 then makes his way back to the other operative (which is now in his police uniform) and also takes off his outfit (mask, gloves, dark shirt, dark jacket, camo pants) but this time they put it on Adam. Operative 2 is also wearing his police uniform under it.
...so basically the lookout now looks like op 1 (minus the mask/gloves which he has but is not wearing), Adam now looks like op 2... as seen by witnesses in the school they assume it's the same 1 person (due to looking the same yet never being seen together), and the 2 operatives now look like police. Still with me?

Now at this point NO POLICE PRESENCE IS SAID TO BE ON SCENE (OFFICIALLY)... The majority of police took ~15 minutes after reports of shots being fired to arrive (mass police), BUT a few small amounts 1 car (of legit "good" police got there ~3 AFTER shots ended... so let me get this straight... no police were at/in the school while shooting was still happening huh?

"then police men came in, and they um just like asked if um he was in here. But then we had climbed to the closets and um we heard more gunshots..."
[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net]

I REALLY hope that sinks in... Shooting happens, girl sees 2 police run by saying have you seen him? the children go and hide, seconds later more gunfire... The police they saw were the 2 operatives, they hadn't changed to their "on radio" police persona's quite yet (they were dressed as police at this point but not communicating officially on the police radios yet as the patsy was still alive and no other police are on scene yet... which is why they don't speak on the police radio for another ~2-3 minutes...). They were going around making sure that no one would witness the patsy "suicide" that they were about to do seconds later... the 2 operatives were basically running around telling everyone to stay hidden (stay the fuck out of the halls... we are trying to kill/frame a patsy damn it... can't have you guys witnessing this... you get the jist). After running around the immediate area making sure the coast is clear... they shoot Adam the patsy in the head (the shot(s) heard after the girl saw police) using the 1 pistol that up to this point hadn't been used (operative 2's pistol... since he used the AR for all his classroom killing, and the other pistol was used at the front of the school) and they also put his brothers ID in his pocket to cause added confusion early on, especially since the idea of Ryan being dead was used at the start of the op to gain access to Adam's house... the ID is to cover any tracks about "that" story which they used to fool the mom before any of this began (in case someone overheard their original story told to the mom earlier somehow, about Ryan being dead... the early accounts of the killer being Ryan would wipe those accounts out (think of how an "echo" works in Minority Report...)).

The cleaner at this point grabs all "inconsistent" evidence from the scene; the extra mask, the extra gloves (puts in his own car), and by accident takes the shotgun (puts in Adam's moms trunk) and heads back to the schools back door... let me explain, I think they fucked up here. The shotgun was used to blow open the front door, but never to actually kill anyone. The cleaner when removing "inconsistent" evidence assumed the shotgun wasn't used (since he was at the back at the time and never first hand saw it used) and thought he was doing the right thing when removing it to match "what would be expected at the scene" and the operative that would of told him "no wait leave it I used that" was to busy running around the halls making sure nothing was being seen (until they killed Adam). This would normally not be an issue but one of the police on scene 5 minutes later (which is operative 2) accidentally announces it on scene (because he remembers op 1 having it, and didn't see the cleaner take it) when by this time the shotgun had actually been put in Adam's moms trunk by the cleaner... oops.

Well that brings you to about here...

Police Scanners after shots are first reported...

...which start as police are just first getting any reports of a shooting/issue at the school, and it takes 2-3 minutes for a small number of (2) "good" police to arrive... yet 2 "bad" police are magically inside before all this happens and just randomly pop up in the conversation already inside the school. The 2 operatives now in their full police persona first start using their police radios when other police arrive on scene (2-3 minutes after all shooting stops). They tell the just arriving police to cover the entrance (and don't explain how they just out of nowhere appear on the radio inside the school... no we are arriving on the scene... no we are making our way into the school... no we are looking for injuries/deaths or a suspect.... nothing... just outta nowhere when more police arrive they start communicating on the radio and are already inside the school... and keep in mind this recording is from before shots were ever reported being fired... so there is no reason it would not have any mention of the FIRST 2 police "arriving" at the scene.. it has a lot of audio proof of the 2nd squad car pulling in, them getting out, and every detail about what they do after that point... but not the 2 bad cops... they just appear out of nowhere inside). 1 of these 2 "bad" police is also involved in a lot of the important "on record" events of the day which are also caught in that recording such as...

Op 2 chases down 2 "shadows" that were seen running to the back of the school (which was actually him and the other op scoping out the current police situation but their shadows were seen by a a teacher who was on the phone with police dispatch at that time...). Op 2 over the radio pretends to see "them" (2) coming at him and pretends to chase them (its really them that's running)... he then ~1 minute later says hes detained A (1) suspect (2 people become 1) and then very shortly after is back in the school (he didn't actually detain anyone so 1 becomes 0... he said what he did just so more cops didn't come to the back door yet... AKA I got the situation handled... and they will get their planned (1) person taken into custody in a couple of minutes).

Op 2 also announces finding the first bodies, yet doesn't ask for more emergency vehicles (at this point the police don't think anything major at all has happened other then shots fired and the front door is blown out... repeatedly in the early part of that recording the police dispatch tells some of the ambulances they haven't been told to come yet so don't... because they though it was a small scale thing... not a bloodbath... no matter where op 2 was if he saw a hurt/dead body based on the official line (front office, classroom 1, classroom 2)... at least 3 other dead bodies would have to also be with that injured/dead person... why no mention "we got a mass slaughter here... much worse when we originally thought... send massive emergency response... NOW...). Instead he just brushes it off as something like "ya I found some bodies" (and half the message gets muffled out and is basically ignored by dispatch as I doubt they even heard him say what he said due to the lack of response after that was said).

Op 2 also finds the suspects (Adam) body... busy day for a single cop wouldn't you say... all the while op 1 is on the radio basically drawing attention mainly to the front of the school (or the roof)... anything to draw attention away from where all the action is (the back) for as long as possible (the cleaner is most likely doing final adjustments of on scenes forensic evidence to make sure it all looks good).

Anyways the 2 operatives (police) at this point start blending into the other police presence that is just now arriving and would be able to tell a seemingly honest account of what happened up to that point.

The cleaner waits near the back of the school (~15 mins) until he is finally detained (once the mass police presence is able to get there and they finally have the manpower on scene to actually do something). Him getting detained away from his car was crucial since it has the "inconsistent" evidence in it (if he was detained in his car they would search it... but there is a way around that).

The cleaner having a valid story (I was here making gingerbread houses with my daughters class) and being let into the school willing (buzzed in legit), and no sign of being part of a crime (no blood on clothing, no evidence of shooting a gun, having a daughter in the school, and having his 2 operative buddies vouching for him) they clear him to leave (with his car which would of never been searched as of yet). As he's leaving he would be stopped again in his car by roadblocks, but he could simply say I was already cleared, the officer would confirm this over the radio, and once confirmed let him on his way (again not searching the car... see why getting detained outside of his car becomes so crucial?).

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Anyways that's the basic jist... thoughts?
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
some of the scenarios i've read make this sound like
a training exercise for some bizarre assassination squad,
and Sandy Hook Elementary School was nothing more than a "proving grounds".
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Is it possible that any children in one class room, who may now be deceased, had been harnessed together by a string or rope in some sort of "game" before the shooting?
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Is it possible that any children in one class room, who may now be deceased, had been harnessed together by a string or rope in some sort of "game" before the shooting?
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Doubtful. Understand that there WAS a homeland security training exercise happening on the exact same day of the shootings (9am-4pm Dec 14, 2012) in Connecticut... which involved assessment of crisis from the perspective of "CHILDREN". This is the standard type of "drill" you will always see present at the same time of a black op and is used for plausible deniability after the fact (if anything goes wrong in the black op itself they can say they thought it was just a drill / blanks / fake / ___... whatever they need to fill in the blanks to try to explain away what happened as a mistake). This is only done IF something goes wrong with the operation (which in this event was not the case... the operation went EXACTLY as planned... see top of page 4 for op details).

There is a lot more to this story then most people will ever understand... but people did die (likely a few less then what we are being told (most likely 22-24 not 28)), a DHS drill was being used as a backup plan in case something went wrong early in the operation (as a backup plan), SOME parent actors are being used as "in your face" propaganda to push a very weak official story to its limit's (although there are real parents as there WERE real victims... that you are not hearing anything from) and this event involved multiple peopled (including at least 2 police)... and Adam never touched or fired a gun that day (simply there to die and take the blame).

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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
some of the scenarios i've read make this sound like
a training exercise for some bizarre assassination squad,
and Sandy Hook Elementary School was nothing more than a "proving grounds".
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Is it possible that any children in one class room, who may now be deceased, had been harnessed together by a string or rope in some sort of "game" before the shooting?
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Doubtful. Understand that there WAS a homeland security training exercise happening on the exact same day of the shootings (9am-4pm Dec 14, 2012) in Connecticut... which involved assessment of crisis from the perspective of "CHILDREN". This is the standard type of "drill" you will always see present at the same time of a black op and is used for plausible deniability after the fact (if anything goes wrong in the black op itself they can say they thought it was just a drill / blanks / fake / ___... whatever they need to fill in the blanks to try to explain away what happened as a mistake). This is only done IF something goes wrong with the operation (which in this event was not the case... the operation went EXACTLY as planned... see top of page 4 for op details).

There is a lot more to this story then most people will ever understand... but people did die (likely a few less then what we are being told (most likely 22-24 not 28)), a DHS drill was being used as a backup plan in case something went wrong early in the operation (as a backup plan), SOME parent actors are being used as "in your face" propaganda to push a very weak official story to its limit's (although there are real parents as there WERE real victims... that you are not hearing anything from) and this event involved multiple peopled (including at least 2 police)... and Adam never touched or fired a gun that day (simply there to die and take the blame).
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A bit more evidence to backup my above claims.


"The goal of the course is to enable participants to improve their community’s mitigation and emergency operations plan specifically regarding the needs of children. The course will provide them with the information needed to address the unique needs of children prior to, during and following disasters. It will also provide them guidance and direction on how to form coalitions and how to become advocates for the unique needs of children in all aspects of emergency management."
Drill/Exercise Date: Dec 14, 2012
Drill/Exercise Location: 2800 Main Street, Bridgeport, CT
[link to www.ct.gov]

HSEEP - Homeland Security Exercise and Evaluation Program
"The Master Scenario Events List (MSEL) is a chronological timeline of expected actions and scripted events (i.e., injects) to be inserted into operations-based exercise play by controllers in order to generate or prompt player activity. It ensures necessary events happen so that all exercise objectives are met."
[link to hseep.dhs.gov (secure)]

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"DENVER, CO--(Marketwire - Oct 31, 2012) - A new group of actors is now available nationwide for active shooter drills and mall shooting full-scale exercises, announced Visionbox, Denver's leading professional actors studio.

Visionbox Crisis Actors are trained in criminal and victim behavior, and bring intense realism to simulated mass casualty incidents in public places.

The actors' stage acting experience, ranging from Shakespeare to contemporary American theater, enables them to "stay in character" throughout an exercise, and improvise scenes of extreme stress while strictly following official exercise scenarios."

[link to www.marketwire.com]
[link to ca.finance.yahoo.com]

Crisis Actors Homepage
[link to crisisactors.org]

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That being said I don't think the ENTIRE Sandy Hook event is fake... it's a real event (black op) layered on top of a fake event (drill/exercise). For more details on the black op itself see the top of page 4 of this thread.

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Parties Involved
-2 operatives (both on duty police)
-1 cleaner (civilian)
-1 patsy (Adam Lanza)

Operation Prep (again I had to speculate for this part on what "likely" happened as there is 0 information about what took place at Adam's house... other then the mom died... weapons and her car were taken, and his computer was smashed.)

2 on duty police (1 car) go to Adams moms house early in the morning of the event and go up to her door and knock. They wake her up (still in pajama's which match official story), and tell her a distraction story to gain access to the house (such as your older son "Ryan" has been killed). She lets them in and is frantic as one would expect. They ask is anyone else in the house (knowing there is) then offers something like "would you like me to take Adam for a drive while the other officer gives you the details? Adam is fairly young, and has a mental illness (aspergers) so she would likely prefer that he not see/hear this right now as he wouldn't easily understand. The mom calls down for Adam to come upstairs. People suffering from aspergers even at Adams age normally don't like doing things when told by someone they don't know, and Adam's mom likely told Adam to go with and do whatever this man tells you (otherwise he would likely go into a fit of frustration if his mom wasn't the one that told him, but if she did he would likely be more then willing to do what was asked... his mom tells him to do it... they are police... there is no threat... he knows nothing about the fake Ryan dead story being told to his mother). The officer then brings Adam outside and puts him in the back of the police car and goes back in and makes up a lie about "another" police being out there to drive Adam around while we discuss the details (meanwhile Adam is actually outside in the back of the police car alone). They then start feeding her more details about Ryans death (all made up of course) and ask her if she has anything of Ryan's such as a picture or ideally an old ID (I know when I was that age I use to keep my old ID's... I would give them to my mom and say "I don't know if I still need this", and she would just take it and store it somewhere). She goes to get it from her room upstairs. Once she is upstairs 1 police goes downstairs to gain access to and prep the 4 patsy guns, the other yells up stalling the mom asking her questions "what age was Ryan", "when was the last time you saw him"... and eventually makes his way up stairs as if hes having a hard time hearing her answers. She's in her room at this point looking for a picture/ID of Ryan, which we can assume she found (the ID found in Adams pocket... I'll get into that more later) and hands it to the officer which is now standing in/near her room (most likely right in the door to her room). The 2nd police then makes his way upstairs with 1 of the 4 guns (AR) and shoot her dead on the bed (matches official story). They go downstairs and smash his computer (matches official story, and is used to draw extra attention to Adam being the killer... why else would he smash his computer right? also to possibly destroy some form of traceable evidence (maybe they also spoke to Adam via the internet before all this went down)) Anyways, they then take the 4 prepped and ready weapons (1 of which was used to kill her... again matching official story), grab her car keys (match official story) and put the weapons in the trunks of the car(s) (2 in each car... 1 pistol & 1 AR in the police car with 1 police & Adam and 1 pistol & 1 shotgun in Adam's moms car which the other officer will now drive).

Once the mother is killed, the patsy vehicle is obtained, the patsy is obtained, and the patsy weapons are obtained they make a call to their civilian counterpart (the cleaner) to make sure he is in position. The cleaner arrives at the school well before the shooting, for a legitimate reason and is buzzed in willingly (in this SPECIFIC case the cleaner was their helping his daughters class build gingerbread houses... her class was not shot up and this mans daughter lived the event unharmed... go figure). Anyways the cleaners first job is complete, he has access to the inside of the school well before the shooting, gets the call from the 2 police and says he's in position and will be ready at the "scheduled time".

So just to clarify before going into the op itself... that's 3 cars total, 4 people total.
-Adam's Moms car = operative 1... 1 pistol + 1 shotgun = On way to school
-1 Police Car = operative 2 + patsy Adam... 1 pistol + 1 AR = On way to school
-Cleaners Car = no weapons = At school ahead of time

Also before going into the op I should mention the clothing adjustments that would be made before arriving at the school (you will see why this is important in a minute).
Operative 1 = Mask, Dark Jacket (with dark shirt), Camo Pants, Gloves... with his police uniform under it
Operative 2 = Mask (not wearing yet), Dark Jacket (with dark shirt), Camo Pants, Gloves (not wearing yet).... also with his police uniform under it
***Not that WITHOUT the MASK on these outfits would not draw a lot of suspicious attention (dark jacket/camo pants)... fact is you could blend in fairly well with it (until shots are fired that is).
Adam = Irrelevant
Cleaner = Irrelevant


The Black Op
The 2 operatives show up at the school in their 2 separate vehicles at around the same time (again both are dressed the same... this is a key point to remember). Operative 1's job is to breech the front door and take care of the administrative staff, Operative 2's job is the 2 classroom (with his entry made though the back door)... both men will "appear" to be the same person based on eyewitness accounts (due to them looking identical and never being seen at the same place at the same time... ever see the movie Inside Man?).

So basically how I see it going down...

Operative 1 arrives in Adams moms car puts his mask/gloves on (again dressed in a dark shirt & jacket with camo pants), goes to his trunk and grabs the 2 weapons he has (1 pistol, 1 shotgun) and heads to the entrance of the school (he doesn't have to be subtle about it... people are going to think hes Adam in a few minutes... and why wouldn't they... everything lines up so far). At the same time Operative 2 gets out of the police car (again wearing a dark shirt & jacket with camo pants & gloves), puts the mask in his pocket & also grabs the 2 weapons he has from the trunk (1 pistol, 1 AR). Operative 2 would have to be more subtle then Operative 1 as he will be entering from an "unofficial" entry point (the back door) so the pistol would be 100% hidden, and the AR would be tucked under his jacket as much as possible (the patsy Adam would be made to walk in front of him to assist in hiding the mostly concealed AR as they make their way towards the back of the school). Also anyone in the area that is paying attention to their surroundings would be more focused on Op 1 which blatantly has a mask on with an exposed shotgun in hand on the front lawn (so Op 2 would have little issue being basically unnoticed making his way to the back entrance with the needed patsy).

OK so quick update
-Operative 1 going towards front entrance, mask and all, holding a shotgun...
-Operative 2 going towards the back entrance, mask hidden, guns hidden, with the Patsy Adam...
-Cleaner inside the school waiting for his signal to open the back door (signal being front entrance breech).

Operative 1 then uses the shotgun (first shots fired) to blow out the "bulletproof" security glass of the front entrance door making his way into the school... keep in mind multiple shots would be needed to do this... even with a high powered shotgun (the official story is he used a total of 16 AR rounds to breech the front door which I believe to be false).

The Cleaner hearing his signal (entrance breech) opens the back door of the school and lets Operative 2 & Adam into the school. The schools security system at this point would light up letting the secretary know the back door has been opened from the inside... except a second after being let in the school's power goes out.....
"We were just in the middle of gym, when we heard gunshots, then the power (muffled) went out."
[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net]

All video surveillance, and power locks at this point stopped working (go figure).
"Once the shooting began, Mr Varga tried to lock the door to the conference room. When he found out the door would not lock, the teacher then ran down a smoke-filled hallway to safety but turned back to help his fellow staff escape."
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

After the power goes out operative 2 enters and gets into position outside the first target classroom putting on his mask and waiting for his signal (his signal being operative 1's pistol fire to finish).

Operative 1 just entering the school through the hole he breached, uses the pistol to shoot at the administrative office near the front of the school (where the principle was... or the people most likely to cause "trouble" from a black-op perspective)... from what I understand killing 4 adults and wounding 2 in this front area. He then starts making his way towards Operative 2 through the interior of the school.

Operative 2 at this time hearing his signal (pistol fire ending) waits ~5 seconds and then opens the first target classroom door and using the 1 AR shoots as many people as he can and then moves on to the 2nd classroom (again with the AR) and does the same then goes outside in the hall to meet up with the others.

So just as an update to this point both operatives, the cleaner and the patsy are now all together in the hallway outside of the 2 target classrooms and MOST the shooting that took place (at least the entrance/classroom shooting) is finished (although more shots will be fired).

Evidence Cleanup / Patsy Setup / "Official" Police Arrival
Operative 1 takes off his outfit (mask, gloves, dark shirt, dark jacket, camo pants) and gives it to the cleaner to wear which puts it on over his current clothing (the mask and gloves he takes but doesn't actually wear... these he will stash in his own car later on...). Operative 1 has his police uniform on under it.
While that is happening Operative 2 (who did the majority of the killing via the classrooms) makes his way to the front office shoots at the general "front door area" and again shooting at the administrative staff or whoever else happens to still be in that area (which is why AR rounds are found there... only because they lapped back). Anyways operative 2 then makes his way back to the other operative (which is now in his police uniform) and also takes off his outfit (mask, gloves, dark shirt, dark jacket, camo pants) but this time they put it on Adam. Operative 2 is also wearing his police uniform under it.
...so basically the lookout now looks like op 1 (minus the mask/gloves which he has but is not wearing), Adam now looks like op 2... as seen by witnesses in the school they assume it's the same 1 person (due to looking the same yet never being seen together), and the 2 operatives now look like police. Still with me?

Now at this point NO POLICE PRESENCE IS SAID TO BE ON SCENE (OFFICIALLY)... The majority of police took ~15 minutes after reports of shots being fired to arrive (mass police), BUT a few small amounts 1 car (of legit "good" police got there ~3 AFTER shots ended... so let me get this straight... no police were at/in the school while shooting was still happening huh?

"then police men came in, and they um just like asked if um he was in here. But then we had climbed to the closets and um we heard more gunshots..."
[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net]

I REALLY hope that sinks in... Shooting happens, girl sees 2 police run by saying have you seen him? the children go and hide, seconds later more gunfire... The police they saw were the 2 operatives, they hadn't changed to their "on radio" police persona's quite yet (they were dressed as police at this point but not communicating officially on the police radios yet as the patsy was still alive and no other police are on scene yet... which is why they don't speak on the police radio for another ~2-3 minutes...). They were going around making sure that no one would witness the patsy "suicide" that they were about to do seconds later... the 2 operatives were basically running around telling everyone to stay hidden (stay the fuck out of the halls... we are trying to kill/frame a patsy damn it... can't have you guys witnessing this... you get the jist). After running around the immediate area making sure the coast is clear... they shoot Adam the patsy in the head (the shot(s) heard after the girl saw police) using the 1 pistol that up to this point hadn't been used (operative 2's pistol... since he used the AR for all his classroom killing, and the other pistol was used at the front of the school) and they also put his brothers ID in his pocket to cause added confusion early on, especially since the idea of Ryan being dead was used at the start of the op to gain access to Adam's house... the ID is to cover any tracks about "that" story which they used to fool the mom before any of this began (in case someone overheard their original story told to the mom earlier somehow, about Ryan being dead... the early accounts of the killer being Ryan would wipe those accounts out (think of how an "echo" works in Minority Report...)).

The cleaner at this point grabs all "inconsistent" evidence from the scene; the extra mask, the extra gloves (puts in his own car), and by accident takes the shotgun (puts in Adam's moms trunk) and heads back to the schools back door... let me explain, I think they fucked up here. The shotgun was used to blow open the front door, but never to actually kill anyone. The cleaner when removing "inconsistent" evidence assumed the shotgun wasn't used (since he was at the back at the time and never first hand saw it used) and thought he was doing the right thing when removing it to match "what would be expected at the scene" and the operative that would of told him "no wait leave it I used that" was to busy running around the halls making sure nothing was being seen (until they killed Adam). This would normally not be an issue but one of the police on scene 5 minutes later (which is operative 2) accidentally announces it on scene (because he remembers op 1 having it, and didn't see the cleaner take it) when by this time the shotgun had actually been put in Adam's moms trunk by the cleaner... oops.

Well that brings you to about here...

Police Scanners after shots are first reported...

...which start as police are just first getting any reports of a shooting/issue at the school, and it takes 2-3 minutes for a small number of (2) "good" police to arrive... yet 2 "bad" police are magically inside before all this happens and just randomly pop up in the conversation already inside the school. The 2 operatives now in their full police persona first start using their police radios when other police arrive on scene (2-3 minutes after all shooting stops). They tell the just arriving police to cover the entrance (and don't explain how they just out of nowhere appear on the radio inside the school... no we are arriving on the scene... no we are making our way into the school... no we are looking for injuries/deaths or a suspect.... nothing... just outta nowhere when more police arrive they start communicating on the radio and are already inside the school... and keep in mind this recording is from before shots were ever reported being fired... so there is no reason it would not have any mention of the FIRST 2 police "arriving" at the scene.. it has a lot of audio proof of the 2nd squad car pulling in, them getting out, and every detail about what they do after that point... but not the 2 bad cops... they just appear out of nowhere inside). 1 of these 2 "bad" police is also involved in a lot of the important "on record" events of the day which are also caught in that recording such as...

Op 2 chases down 2 "shadows" that were seen running to the back of the school (which was actually him and the other op scoping out the current police situation but their shadows were seen by a a teacher who was on the phone with police dispatch at that time...). Op 2 over the radio pretends to see "them" (2) coming at him and pretends to chase them (its really them that's running)... he then ~1 minute later says hes detained A (1) suspect (2 people become 1) and then very shortly after is back in the school (he didn't actually detain anyone so 1 becomes 0... he said what he did just so more cops didn't come to the back door yet... AKA I got the situation handled... and they will get their planned (1) person taken into custody in a couple of minutes).

Op 2 also announces finding the first bodies, yet doesn't ask for more emergency vehicles (at this point the police don't think anything major at all has happened other then shots fired and the front door is blown out... repeatedly in the early part of that recording the police dispatch tells some of the ambulances they haven't been told to come yet so don't... because they though it was a small scale thing... not a bloodbath... no matter where op 2 was if he saw a hurt/dead body based on the official line (front office, classroom 1, classroom 2)... at least 3 other dead bodies would have to also be with that injured/dead person... why no mention "we got a mass slaughter here... much worse when we originally thought... send massive emergency response... NOW...). Instead he just brushes it off as something like "ya I found some bodies" (and half the message gets muffled out and is basically ignored by dispatch as I doubt they even heard him say what he said due to the lack of response after that was said).

Op 2 also finds the suspects (Adam) body... busy day for a single cop wouldn't you say... all the while op 1 is on the radio basically drawing attention mainly to the front of the school (or the roof)... anything to draw attention away from where all the action is (the back) for as long as possible (the cleaner is most likely doing final adjustments of on scenes forensic evidence to make sure it all looks good).

Anyways the 2 operatives (police) at this point start blending into the other police presence that is just now arriving and would be able to tell a seemingly honest account of what happened up to that point.

The cleaner waits near the back of the school (~15 mins) until he is finally detained (once the mass police presence is able to get there and they finally have the manpower on scene to actually do something). Him getting detained away from his car was crucial since it has the "inconsistent" evidence in it (if he was detained in his car they would search it... but there is a way around that).

The cleaner having a valid story (I was here making gingerbread houses with my daughters class) and being let into the school willing (buzzed in legit), and no sign of being part of a crime (no blood on clothing, no evidence of shooting a gun, having a daughter in the school, and having his 2 operative buddies vouching for him) they clear him to leave (with his car which would of never been searched as of yet). As he's leaving he would be stopped again in his car by roadblocks, but he could simply say I was already cleared, the officer would confirm this over the radio, and once confirmed let him on his way (again not searching the car... see why getting detained outside of his car becomes so crucial?).
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Is it possible that any children in one class room, who may now be deceased, had been harnessed together by a string or rope in some sort of "game" before the shooting?
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Doubtful. Understand that there WAS a homeland security training exercise happening on the exact same day of the shootings (9am-4pm Dec 14, 2012) in Connecticut... which involved assessment of crisis from the perspective of "CHILDREN". This is the standard type of "drill" you will always see present at the same time of a black op and is used for plausible deniability after the fact (if anything goes wrong in the black op itself they can say they thought it was just a drill / blanks / fake / ___... whatever they need to fill in the blanks to try to explain away what happened as a mistake). This is only done IF something goes wrong with the operation (which in this event was not the case... the operation went EXACTLY as planned... see top of page 4 for op details).

There is a lot more to this story then most people will ever understand... but people did die (likely a few less then what we are being told (most likely 22-24 not 28)), a DHS drill was being used as a backup plan in case something went wrong early in the operation (as a backup plan), SOME parent actors are being used as "in your face" propaganda to push a very weak official story to its limit's (although there are real parents as there WERE real victims... that you are not hearing anything from) and this event involved multiple peopled (including at least 2 police)... and Adam never touched or fired a gun that day (simply there to die and take the blame).
 Quoting: TruthNow88


A bit more evidence to backup my above claims.


"The goal of the course is to enable participants to improve their community’s mitigation and emergency operations plan specifically regarding the needs of children. The course will provide them with the information needed to address the unique needs of children prior to, during and following disasters. It will also provide them guidance and direction on how to form coalitions and how to become advocates for the unique needs of children in all aspects of emergency management."
Drill/Exercise Date: Dec 14, 2012
Drill/Exercise Location: 2800 Main Street, Bridgeport, CT
[link to www.ct.gov]

HSEEP - Homeland Security Exercise and Evaluation Program
"The Master Scenario Events List (MSEL) is a chronological timeline of expected actions and scripted events (i.e., injects) to be inserted into operations-based exercise play by controllers in order to generate or prompt player activity. It ensures necessary events happen so that all exercise objectives are met."
[link to hseep.dhs.gov (secure)]

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"DENVER, CO--(Marketwire - Oct 31, 2012) - A new group of actors is now available nationwide for active shooter drills and mall shooting full-scale exercises, announced Visionbox, Denver's leading professional actors studio.

Visionbox Crisis Actors are trained in criminal and victim behavior, and bring intense realism to simulated mass casualty incidents in public places.

The actors' stage acting experience, ranging from Shakespeare to contemporary American theater, enables them to "stay in character" throughout an exercise, and improvise scenes of extreme stress while strictly following official exercise scenarios."

[link to www.marketwire.com]
[link to ca.finance.yahoo.com]

Crisis Actors Homepage
[link to crisisactors.org]

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That being said I don't think the ENTIRE Sandy Hook event is fake... it's a real event (black op) layered on top of a fake event (drill/exercise). For more details on the black op itself see the top of page 4 of this thread.
 Quoting: TruthNow88


Nice job figuring this all out! I agree with you 100%. Especially the fact that there was the HSEEP Exercise
being held the same day (12-14-2012) in Bridgeport, CT. If you listen to the radio scanner recordings, some responses seem very casual.

For example a state cop radios dispatch that some Newtown cops have showed up and they need something to do in a derisive tone. That they want to participate too. He suggests they do some menial job on the outskirts and dispatch says "yeah whatever."

Another thing that was odd was the dispatcher telling responding troopers that they can use just lights, not sirens in code speak. Sort of like this is just another surprise exercise they didn't know about.

You really nailed it as far as them having the Bridgeport HSEEP exercise the same day for back-up if something went wrong. Just as NORAD was staging a huge exercise on 911.

If this is how it happened, then the propaganda mission is tied in very deeply with the MSM. I suggest that the new digital cable mandate and this Cable Advisory Council that you will find in every town across America is dumbing down the masses so bad, they will believe everything that is spewed from the boob tube. Throw out your TV's or sell them!
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NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING.

because the dickwad government authorities in Sand Hook
haven't released one single shred of information about
what really happened in Sandy Hook on Dec. 14, 2012

and the dickwad news media isn't doing a damn thing
to force the dickwad government authorities in Sandy Hook
to cough of the information.
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Someone in Connecticut please check. Have young children ever been harnessed, or roped to one another to keep them moving together in an emergency?

Please check on this. We need to know what is being done with children to assist getting them through a disaster.

Such an attempt predicated on the so-called "safety" of the children is, in fact, very dangerous. Similar to an incident where a father tied his 3-year-old to the mast of a sailboat in a storm. The boat capsized and sunk with the boy. The father, in a life jacket, was picked up floating in the water.

Are small children being tied?
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Someone in Connecticut please check. Have young children ever been harnessed, or roped to one another to keep them moving together in an emergency?

Please check on this. We need to know what is being done with children to assist getting them through a disaster.

Such an attempt predicated on the so-called "safety" of the children is, in fact, very dangerous. Similar to an incident where a father tied his 3-year-old to the mast of a sailboat in a storm. The boat capsized and sunk with the boy. The father, in a life jacket, was picked up floating in the water.

Are small children being tied?
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a safer thing to do is to tell the children that they have to "hold on to the rope".

problem solved.

NEXT
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Someone in Connecticut please check. Have young children ever been harnessed, or roped to one another to keep them moving together in an emergency?

Please check on this. We need to know what is being done with children to assist getting them through a disaster.

Such an attempt predicated on the so-called "safety" of the children is, in fact, very dangerous. Similar to an incident where a father tied his 3-year-old to the mast of a sailboat in a storm. The boat capsized and sunk with the boy. The father, in a life jacket, was picked up floating in the water.

Are small children being tied?
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a safer thing to do is to tell the children that they have to "hold on to the rope".

problem solved.

NEXT
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I disagree that the problem is solved. I certainly disagree that children should be tied. In light of the Sandy Hook disaster, we must have LOCAL ordinances which require outside, affected observers when children and other dependent persons are to be involved in an emergency drill. In other words, family and guardians must be advised of a drill and allowed to observe.

Very few people are trusting the nazi-corporate takeover of the government. Regardless that people appear to be "sheeple" they are not trusting government. In this light, we must make changes that will protect children.
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By the same kind of magic that has affected everything else in this "event".
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Maybe he was on Bath Salts.
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Someone in Connecticut please check. Have young children ever been harnessed, or roped to one another to keep them moving together in an emergency?

Please check on this. We need to know what is being done with children to assist getting them through a disaster.

Such an attempt predicated on the so-called "safety" of the children is, in fact, very dangerous. Similar to an incident where a father tied his 3-year-old to the mast of a sailboat in a storm. The boat capsized and sunk with the boy. The father, in a life jacket, was picked up floating in the water.

Are small children being tied?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30902658


a safer thing to do is to tell the children that they have to "hold on to the rope".

problem solved.

NEXT
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I disagree that the problem is solved. I certainly disagree that children should be tied. In light of the Sandy Hook disaster, we must have LOCAL ordinances which require outside, affected observers when children and other dependent persons are to be involved in an emergency drill. In other words, family and guardians must be advised of a drill and allowed to observe.

Very few people are trusting the nazi-corporate takeover of the government. Regardless that people appear to be "sheeple" they are not trusting government. In this light, we must make changes that will protect children.
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i didn't say anything about tying children, you fricking
peabrained moron. i said, sometimes it's a good idea
to have a length of rope (or ribbon) and line the children
up and tell them that "everyone has to hold on to the ribbon".

you, ma'lady, are a close encounter of the worst kind.
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Someone in Connecticut please check. Have young children ever been harnessed, or roped to one another to keep them moving together in an emergency?

Please check on this. We need to know what is being done with children to assist getting them through a disaster.

Such an attempt predicated on the so-called "safety" of the children is, in fact, very dangerous. Similar to an incident where a father tied his 3-year-old to the mast of a sailboat in a storm. The boat capsized and sunk with the boy. The father, in a life jacket, was picked up floating in the water.

Are small children being tied?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30902658


a safer thing to do is to tell the children that they have to "hold on to the rope".

problem solved.

NEXT
 Quoting: Prof. Einstein



I disagree that the problem is solved. I certainly disagree that children should be tied. In light of the Sandy Hook disaster, we must have LOCAL ordinances which require outside, affected observers when children and other dependent persons are to be involved in an emergency drill. In other words, family and guardians must be advised of a drill and allowed to observe.

Very few people are trusting the nazi-corporate takeover of the government. Regardless that people appear to be "sheeple" they are not trusting government. In this light, we must make changes that will protect children.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30907216


i didn't say anything about tying children, you fricking
peabrained moron. i said, sometimes it's a good idea
to have a length of rope (or ribbon) and line the children
up and tell them that "everyone has to hold on to the ribbon".

you, ma'lady, are a close encounter of the worst kind.
 Quoting: Prof. Einstein



Well, I see that the Dr., nee Prof. has gone to the trouble to look me up, and I'm not registered. Also, it is reasonable to suggest that Dr./Prof. is new to this board or he would most probably have called me "peabrained moran."

Thus, it is reasonable to suggest that Dr./Prof. is on board because of the SH disaster. Let's pass on the rope/ribbon argument for the moment and work on solutions to a problem which is not yet solved.

How do we protect our children in emergency situations?

It will be helpful to know what happened at SH on the 14th. The closed circuit TV in the new security system will have shown staff everything going on in the class rooms. The actions being taken to prepare students for the "drill" must have been authorized.

About learning some facts of what happened, there will have been at least a preliminary incident report by local authorities. The incident report should be public information even though there is an ongoing investigation.

Please .... under the Freedom of Information Act:

Someone in Connecticut request a copy of the incident report and post a copy on the internet to link up here.

Thank you.
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I have created a new thread with a MUCH MORE detailed breakdown of the true events of that day after finding some new evidence that blows this whole event away...

It's a long read but trust me it's worth it...

Sandy Hook Elementary: A Complete Breakdown Of The Days Event(s)...
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a safer thing to do is to tell the children that they have to "hold on to the rope".

problem solved.

NEXT
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I disagree that the problem is solved. I certainly disagree that children should be tied. In light of the Sandy Hook disaster, we must have LOCAL ordinances which require outside, affected observers when children and other dependent persons are to be involved in an emergency drill. In other words, family and guardians must be advised of a drill and allowed to observe.

Very few people are trusting the nazi-corporate takeover of the government. Regardless that people appear to be "sheeple" they are not trusting government. In this light, we must make changes that will protect children.
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i didn't say anything about tying children, you fricking
peabrained moron. i said, sometimes it's a good idea
to have a length of rope (or ribbon) and line the children
up and tell them that "everyone has to hold on to the ribbon".

you, ma'lady, are a close encounter of the worst kind.
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Well, I see that the Dr., nee Prof. has gone to the trouble to look me up, and I'm not registered. Also, it is reasonable to suggest that Dr./Prof. is new to this board or he would most probably have called me "peabrained moran."

Thus, it is reasonable to suggest that Dr./Prof. is on board because of the SH disaster. Let's pass on the rope/ribbon argument for the moment and work on solutions to a problem which is not yet solved.

How do we protect our children in emergency situations?

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as a practical matter, whenever police respond to a situation
like this, the best the can hope for is to arrive in
time to keep the casualty count less than 50.
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I disagree that the problem is solved. I certainly disagree that children should be tied. In light of the Sandy Hook disaster, we must have LOCAL ordinances which require outside, affected observers when children and other dependent persons are to be involved in an emergency drill. In other words, family and guardians must be advised of a drill and allowed to observe.

Very few people are trusting the nazi-corporate takeover of the government. Regardless that people appear to be "sheeple" they are not trusting government. In this light, we must make changes that will protect children.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30907216


i didn't say anything about tying children, you fricking
peabrained moron. i said, sometimes it's a good idea
to have a length of rope (or ribbon) and line the children
up and tell them that "everyone has to hold on to the ribbon".

you, ma'lady, are a close encounter of the worst kind.
 Quoting: Prof. Einstein



Well, I see that the Dr., nee Prof. has gone to the trouble to look me up, and I'm not registered. Also, it is reasonable to suggest that Dr./Prof. is new to this board or he would most probably have called me "peabrained moran."

Thus, it is reasonable to suggest that Dr./Prof. is on board because of the SH disaster. Let's pass on the rope/ribbon argument for the moment and work on solutions to a problem which is not yet solved.

How do we protect our children in emergency situations?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30911772


as a practical matter, whenever police respond to a situation
like this, the best the can hope for is to arrive in
time to keep the casualty count less than 50.
 Quoting: Prof. Einstein


Thanks, Sgt. Friday!
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
I have created a new thread with a MUCH MORE detailed breakdown of the true events of that day after finding some new evidence that blows this whole event away...

It's a long read but trust me it's worth it...

Sandy Hook Elementary: A Complete Breakdown Of The Days Event(s)...
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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The problem with taking time to read your thread is that you confirm a preconceived mindset with the "88."
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
I have created a new thread with a MUCH MORE detailed breakdown of the true events of that day after finding some new evidence that blows this whole event away...

It's a long read but trust me it's worth it...

Sandy Hook Elementary: A Complete Breakdown Of The Days Event(s)...
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: TruthNow88


The problem with taking time to read your thread is that you confirm a preconceived mindset with the "88."
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88 means "heil hitler" wtf
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Something like that.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
How does a ~110 lbs kid (working alone)...

1. Shoot through a bulletproof glass door making a hole large enough to walk though using an just the AR (16 bullets) which is the official story as of now?

2. Have the schools power go out moments after the first shot is fired, killing all video surveillance, and electronically controlled door locks.

-Powerout
Fox News Interview of a Student (video)
"We were just in the middle of gym, when we heard gunshots, then the power (muffled) went out."
[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net] (video)
(sorry for the crappy link... wish it was on YouTube... this is a VERY important video clip for multiple reasons so I do suggest you watch it... notice anything else weird that this girl says? Anyways I'll get to that at the end....).

-Doors Would Not Lock
"Once the shooting began, Mr Varga tried to lock the door to the conference room. When he found out the door would not lock, the teacher then ran down a smoke-filled hallway to safety but turned back to help his fellow staff escape." (also notice the mention of smoke-filled hallways... haven't heard that mentioned much before either)
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

3. Carry so much stuff, yet have professional marksman aim!!!
(I find it funny it is taking them so long to announce OFFICIALLY the weapon count & type... they have to be very careful what weapons "they" announce here which is why they are taking so long).

-We know he had at least 1 pistol (at very least used to "kill himself"). It will most likely be officially announced as 2 (one used on the administrative staff at the front of the school, and a single bullet from the 2nd pistol to "kill himself"...) but lets just call it 1 pistol for now.

-We know he had at least 1 AR as officially it an AR was used for most the injuries/deaths (although MULTIPLE are mentioned by first responding at ~4:48 in the first link of this post "be advised we have multiple weapons, including long gun(S) & shotgun(S)". But again lets stick with just 1 since no one is being very transparent with us about wtf was found.

-We know he had at least 1 shotgun (again the quote above mentions multiple but lets stick with 1 for now). I believe officially they will only announce 1 shotgun total... meaning the one in the trunk and that there were none found inside the school.... let's call it a hunch... but hey lets go with their story for now that at least 1 shotgun is also found inside the school.

-Extra ammo for the guns. From what I recall hearing officially there was at least 3 clips of ammo used for the AR (16 bullets into the front door, and the rest used later in the classroom(s)). I have heard no mention about other extra clips that may of been on scene, so we will just stick with 3 extra clips for an AR (even though there was likely other extra ammo on scene as well).

-We have accounts of the hallways being filled with smoke. Since there was no account of a fire magically starting we can only assume it was smoke grenades (similar to the Aurora shootings... how interesting). So lets say 1 smoke grenade, even though it was most likely multiple.

-He was apparently wearing body armor (I assume has to weigh 10 or more lbs at least...).

-At least 1 smoke grenade (most likely multiple)

-He was apparently also wearing a mask (which would restrict breathing and be especially exhausting if doing something as active as running around shooting people (I can't think of any situation which could possibly raise your heart rate higher/faster) all the while carrying all that extra weight. A mask would also somewhat restrict vision, yet "Adam" from the official version sounds like he had a well above expected hit/miss ratio considering the person/situation.

Ok so here we have it...
-1 pistol (most likely 2 pistols)
-1 AR (even though multiple are mentioned, in the end it will likely be reported 1 AR total... again a hunch.)
-1 Shotgun (again even though multiple are mentioned. I think in the final story it will be 1 total (the one in the trunk... but how did it get there if it was at one point inside the school to be seen? I won't get into that now)
-Full ammo for all 3+ weapons + at least 3 clips of extra ammo for the AR (most likely more ammo for all the weapons).
-a ~10 lbs bulletproof vest.
-1 Smoke Grenade (most likely more)
-A mask which would restrict vision/breathing (and having in the first place makes no sense if you plan on killing yourself).

Doesn't that seem like a lot of weight for a ~110 kid to be carrying around without issue while having professional accuracy none the less?

Anyways just curious about peoples thoughts on the 3 points I mentioned above.



...Oh and on a side note I am also kind of curious why no one seems to be mentioning the 3 people should of been taken into custody based on radio/video evidence but only 1 ended up being taken in... and that 1 man was later let go. How does 2 become 1 become 0 (~15 min delay) become 1 in custody?

Lastly and BY FAR most important, why is it that no one seems to be questions how 2 police were inside the school DURING the shooting... yes you heard that right.

"then police men came in, and they um just like asked if um he was in here. But then we had climbed to the closets and um we heard more gunshots..."
[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net]
(again sorry for the crappy link... really which is IMPORTANT video was on youtube)

Really? (2) Police ask you if you have seen him and then shortly after that there was more gunshots? Why did no one on the police scanner report first hand shots fired at any point? Why is it commonly believed that the first police didn't show up 10-20 mins after shooting stopped when in fact based on this little girl they were inside when the shooting was happening (and even based on police scanner recording shows 2 police inside the school in less then ~2 after shooting stopped...) and how the hell were 2 police officers already inside the school DURING the shooting to begin with? (and coincidentally both don't use their police radio's until after the shooting stops and play the most important police roll of the day, chasing 2 people/suspects, announcing the wrong weapons on scene, finding Adam's body... as heard in the first link of this post...)?

I won't push my theory to hard on people... but I think you get the jist of where you should start putting some of your research/focus. Timeline the events/police activity using any "official" audio/video you can about the event and see if you come up with a similar "discrepancy" that doesn't seem to at all be mentioned... who were the 2 police INSIDE the school magically DURING the shooting (police presence during the actual shooting goes directly against the official story by the way... yet can be proven) and why didn't they use their police radio's until after more police arrived on scene ~2-3 minutes later (and why were both these men so interested in drawing attention away from the schools back door, and constantly reinforcing the idea for the other early responding police to watch the front entrance on the police scanners?).

Makes ya think...

I guess now I just wait for the shill attacks to come huh? 1dunno1
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the cops were packing AR15 type guns themselves when they arrived I noticed in one of the pictures taken of the area outside the school at the time. you know, when the entire shoot out was long over and the first few "serve and protect" officers were finally allowed to what...? step outside their armored vehicles and stretch their legs? they damn sure weren't sent in to do damage control or attempt to waylay anything, it's clear whose side they were on.

these swat units hid in their vehicles until it was all clear. surprised they've come out yet in truth. just long enough to plant the weapon of choice for proposed banishment. shades of the colorado shooters. same team set both up.

then it was indicated that an AR15 weapon was found, oddly tho it wasn't found inside the building with the two handguns that the kid was supposedly wielding. hence someone took the AR15 from the kid at the scene where he lay dead with his other two guns, and walked it outside and left it laying somewhere in order that it be found...? tho they were not specific in that regard, can you blame them at this point? lol less is best when your working with this level of acumen, cough.

no wonder they're in an all fired hurry to ban automatic weapons, this particular unit walked itself outside and lay down to take a nap after the shooter was dead inside. in fact, this unit may be entirely responsible for the entire fiasco, sans the hypnotic kid in question.

they are patronizing us to death at this point with their blatant hypocrisy. stinks to high heaven and then some. in fact, it's so blatantly obvious that it's just another stereotypical false flag that they needn't even bother with their usual spin. (and I daresay they didn't put much effort into it, which means they are clear that we are clear on how the cow ate that cabbage)

tain't working anymore nor will it ever be capable of being a viable excuse in future. too much water under that bridge at this point.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Part Five of my continuing Sandy Hook coverage is now up online. You don't wanna miss this one: new shocking revelations! [link to www.brendanhunt.com]
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Part Five of my continuing Sandy Hook coverage is now up online. You don't wanna miss this one: new shocking revelations! [link to www.brendanhunt.com]
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... and the hunt goes on to list citizens interested in this false flag screw up involving dead children.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
i remember them saying his mother prepared his meals for him,why, was he too stupid to cook food, when she left for a trip to n.h. she prepared all his meals,
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Sorry to the o.p for going off the subject, but I remember reading someone say in an article that she didn't want him using the stove as she was afraid he'd burn the house down or words to that affect.

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