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two words....retard strength
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He wasn't a "retard", though.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Good work OP! Its a total Psyop and the sheep are buying it in bulk.

I think there was at least a 3-4 person team. One person had to handle Adam, one had to handle crowd control and at least two had to do the killing. I suspect at least one of the shooters was also a woman...NOBODY suspects a woman in these situations and it would be Waaaaaay easier for a librarinish looking woman to blend in to the crowd once the deed was done.

Also, if at least 200 rounds were fired, why do all of the witnesses only recall hearing a few pop pops here and there? Two hundred round would be ALOT of POP POPS!!! Which is why I suspect the use of silenced weapons in addition to the one they framed adam with.

Of course since the parents were not allowed to see their children it is possible that they were just gassed to death and the use of silenced weapons was not needed.

I think maybe 10-15 real kids died and the rest were plants with fake familys.
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Quite possible as the 3-4 victims families I have seen on TV (seems to always be the same 3-4 pushed on every channel/show) don't appear to be acting the way you would expect them to based on the tragic situation, but I am trying to stick with provable details for now as that is somewhat "speculative", although I don't necessarily disagree.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
I am so glad someone is doing a thread on this.

All this time I thought it was physically impossible.

One thing I noticed, only a few hours after the shooting I was watching CBS news, and the newscaster gave a long speech on the history of public shootings, he talked a long time outlining each event.

There is no way they could have composed all of that so fast when they didn't even know all the facts yet.
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[link to psychcentral.com]

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

[link to dspace.ou.nl]

I have a nephew that had autism...now, at 22, FULL-BLOWN SCHIZOPHRENIA!
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They do not say what I bsed. Saying it is on the same gene is not to say they are the same thing or if you have aspergers (which isn't autism) you will develop schizophrenia.

BTW, I have aspergers, asshole. So does my nephew. So do several of my friends.

You really are clueless. You misread and provide typical GLP bullshit. You show you have no reading comprehension and just want to label people.
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Make sure you all STAY ON YOUR MEDS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


Please do some research, it's the meds that have been proven to cause violent outburst.

But in this case, I'm pretty sure he was carried in and executed on the scene after the bloodbath was over. Nothing else makes sense.
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Good work OP! Its a total Psyop and the sheep are buying it in bulk.

I think there was at least a 3-4 person team. One person had to handle Adam, one had to handle crowd control and at least two had to do the killing. I suspect at least one of the shooters was also a woman...NOBODY suspects a woman in these situations and it would be Waaaaaay easier for a librarinish looking woman to blend in to the crowd once the deed was done.

Also, if at least 200 rounds were fired, why do all of the witnesses only recall hearing a few pop pops here and there? Two hundred round would be ALOT of POP POPS!!! Which is why I suspect the use of silenced weapons in addition to the one they framed adam with.

Of course since the parents were not allowed to see their children it is possible that they were just gassed to death and the use of silenced weapons was not needed.

I think maybe 10-15 real kids died and the rest were plants with fake familys.
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Quite possible as the 3-4 victims families I have seen on TV (seems to always be the same 3-4 pushed on every channel/show) don't appear to be acting the way you would expect them to based on the tragic situation, but I am trying to stick with provable details for now as that is somewhat "speculative", although I don't necessarily disagree.
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Yes but speculation leads to research, research leads to clues, clues lead to facts, and facts lead to men in black suits at your front door :)
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The official lie is a joke.
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[link to psychcentral.com]

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

[link to dspace.ou.nl]

I have a nephew that had autism...now, at 22, FULL-BLOWN SCHIZOPHRENIA!
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They do not say what I bsed. Saying it is on the same gene is not to say they are the same thing or if you have aspergers (which isn't autism) you will develop schizophrenia.

BTW, I have aspergers, asshole. So does my nephew. So do several of my friends.

You really are clueless. You misread and provide typical GLP bullshit. You show you have no reading comprehension and just want to label people.
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Make sure you all STAY ON YOUR MEDS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


Please do some research, it's the meds that have been proven to cause violent outburst.

But in this case, I'm pretty sure he was carried in and executed on the scene after the bloodbath was over. Nothing else makes sense.
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I disagree with him needing to be carried in... it's a long rant to explain and is very speculative (which I am trying to avoid right now), but the basic jist is I think he went along willingly in a sense with the operation (although his role was to stand there, get the killers outfit put on him, and then shot in the head to take the blame... none of which he knew anything about before hand).

I'll give a small hint... Adam never went in the Front entrance (that was someone else)...
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I think Adam had been working & training with the team before hand and he went along on this mission like he did with all the other training / hanging out scenarios.

Remember his mother was killed so she cannot give any whereabouts as to what Adams activities were in the days, weeks, months leading up to the tragedy. If she were alive she could have talked about the "new job" and "new friends" that Adam had been hanging out with. Killing her off was one of the fist major red flags for me.
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For experts in this field to answer:


Can you open up a murder trial in court.....with just pictures of the victim?
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They had to get rid of the patsy. The drugged James Holmes has turned out to be just too messy: jail stories, strange court proceedings, etc. So no way are they going to arrest a live patsy again. They will all be suicided.

And think back to Oklahoma City and "John Doe #2" -- They almost fumbled pinning it on Timothy McVeigh.

People are really waking up now, hmmm?
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They do not say what I bsed. Saying it is on the same gene is not to say they are the same thing or if you have aspergers (which isn't autism) you will develop schizophrenia.

BTW, I have aspergers, asshole. So does my nephew. So do several of my friends.

You really are clueless. You misread and provide typical GLP bullshit. You show you have no reading comprehension and just want to label people.
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Make sure you all STAY ON YOUR MEDS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


Please do some research, it's the meds that have been proven to cause violent outburst.

But in this case, I'm pretty sure he was carried in and executed on the scene after the bloodbath was over. Nothing else makes sense.
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I disagree with him needing to be carried in... it's a long rant to explain and is very speculative (which I am trying to avoid right now), but the basic jist is I think he went along willingly in a sense with the operation (although his role was to stand there, get the killers outfit put on him, and then shot in the head to take the blame... none of which he knew anything about before hand).

I'll give a small hint... Adam never went in the Front entrance (that was someone else)...
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That makes sense as well. The only thing that doesn't make sense is the official story. Or I should say the official stories. There are so many of them I have lost track.
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oh and don't call me a shill.
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fucking shill. if it looks like a shill, and talks like a shill, and stinks like a shill...
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
good point OP.

I did not watch any msm accounts of this incident 4 several days. Now that I have tuned in, the story keeps changing.
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My lunatic buddy told me to watch the "assburgers" episode of south park and it explains all. I still don't know what he's talking about So I tried to think like a conspiracytard slinky brain bats in the belfry freak like him and didn't come up with much but it's fun. maybe it's about sandy berger. the fellow who was swiping documents from the national archive relating to 9-11 and an adviser to john Kerry our future sec of state. This and that lanza creep is supposed to have aspergers syndrome. Stan drink jameson scotch. james holmes was the freak who went bonkers and shot people in colorado. A box by cartmans burger stand reads thompson with an arrow pointing downward. Box is upside down. Tom cruise play jack reacher in a new film which has now had scenes retaken due to the massacre in sandy hook also the author of the book that the film is based on had his latest book released on september 11th 2012. it is about a massive conspiracy. The house numbers 28201,21208 and 2001 are seen during episode along with 6:59am and 7:00 am on a clock radio next to a lamp with a denver broncos lampshade. The episode deals with a bunch no loons who believe everything is a false reality and i noticed a sign on the wall that said "in control'. I can't come up with anything about the house numbers but i'm really not very good at conspiracy stuff. There is also an Arbys restaurant outside stan's window. Stan says we must take a hard left turn to enjoy life but later that is questioned. a duck is the nations leader, somekind of walks like a duck reference i guess and is replaced. but still appears in picture hanging on the marshes wall. There is a picture of a character called street warrior that stans mom straightens on his wall but is crooked when we next see it. The song landslide is played and is as depressing as usual plus Stevie nicks blows! My conclusion is sandy hook was a terrible tragedy and there is nothing to be learned from southpark,the batman movie or anything thing else.
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Because the very innocent were involved.....the initial reaction is just to absorb everything in that is presented to you. For my wife and myself......we felt sick to our stomachs.


A number of hours later however......I asked myself this question......did I really trust MSM prior to this particular incident?
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Anyone who has handled the gear that is listed here KNOWS, this event has a lot more to it than the official story.

No way possible for a kid that size to operate with such clinical precision with that kind of load out.

Not in 20 minutes, not in 2 hours.
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TRUE--TRUE--When I served in the Army, I was just in the medical corps. But over seas Germany we did do rescue training and had to wear full gear (uniform, MOP, helmet, gas mask, ruck sack, etc.) I'm a woman and weighed about 125 lbs. We did 9 mm and Rifle training in full gear out in the field. What a joke. Most doctors and nurses just stood there or sat down. I couldn't move. It was hot, I couldn't breath, I sure as hell could not hit the target. I'm not buying this story. I was a trained combat medic and nurse. I don't see this official story happening at all. At least 3 people or more were involved. If Adam exists, he was killed and so was his mother and the children were killed to push the hysteria for gun control.

As for Aspergers, it is not a gross mental illness, he would not have been a lunatic and there is no medication to treat the disorder. If he took meds it was for something else.
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It's called tactical armour dipshit...look it up it can hold all that...learn before you speak
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spelled it wrong shill
ARMOR

tactical ARMOR

and this has many different types and weights...so
what is your point here.
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"armour" = nice elderly person with a British accent.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
I agree I have been wondering how the heck this kid basically did this...with precision and in that short amount of time like a trained navy seal.

My thought is a pro went in there did it and they threw a body on the ground and took off. aka "The shooter"

No way he did this too many lapsed facts and I am sorry but no one beat this kids ass with a chair or table?

He looks like a little bi***
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Also, it was reported that a brand new surveillance system had been installed recently. Where is the camera footage?
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Anyone who has handled the gear that is listed here KNOWS, this event has a lot more to it than the official story.

No way possible for a kid that size to operate with such clinical precision with that kind of load out.

Not in 20 minutes, not in 2 hours.
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TRUE--TRUE--When I served in the Army, I was just in the medical corps. But over seas Germany we did do rescue training and had to wear full gear (uniform, MOP, helmet, gas mask, ruck sack, etc.) I'm a woman and weighed about 125 lbs. We did 9 mm and Rifle training in full gear out in the field. What a joke. Most doctors and nurses just stood there or sat down. I couldn't move. It was hot, I couldn't breath, I sure as hell could not hit the target. I'm not buying this story. I was a trained combat medic and nurse. I don't see this official story happening at all. At least 3 people or more were involved. If Adam exists, he was killed and so was his mother and the children were killed to push the hysteria for gun control.

As for Aspergers, it is not a gross mental illness, he would not have been a lunatic and there is no medication to treat the disorder. If he took meds it was for something else.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Am thinking Lanza had the tactical advantage of laser sighting, body armor, and maybe a bumpfire stock on that AR with high capacity clips.

It is also entirely possible there were Police on the scene the whole time and they just shit themselves. They hear gunshots but more importantly have to locate the shooter and neutralize him; the Police maybe at best having a pistol and shotgun

WATCH THE VIDEO THE KID IS A SIMILAR SIZE
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I don't really know a lot about this since I have been on the road working for the last three weeks, but I really find this very eye opening.
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Also, it was reported that a brand new surveillance system had been installed recently. Where is the camera footage?
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Kid in gym said power went out after shots rang out.

Lucky Adam, I guess... yeah right.

It was a planned psyop.
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Just want to be clear that is a semi-auto rifle with a bumpfire stock.
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I think Adam had been working & training with the team before hand and he went along on this mission like he did with all the other training / hanging out scenarios.

Remember his mother was killed so she cannot give any whereabouts as to what Adams activities were in the days, weeks, months leading up to the tragedy. If she were alive she could have talked about the "new job" and "new friends" that Adam had been hanging out with. Killing her off was one of the fist major red flags for me.
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Why did they originally blame it on Ryan Lanza?
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Just want to be clear that is a semi-auto rifle with a bumpfire stock.
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Break that out for dummies like me who know nothing about guns, please.
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Here:

<<< According to state police, shooter Adam Lanza, 20, had hundreds of rounds of unused, especially deadly ammunition that raises the possibility the mass killing could have been much worse, if he was given the chance. >>>

[link to www.wfsb.com]


Those hundreds of rounds had to weigh at least ten pounds. (1,000 rounds of .223 weighs around 28 lbs.)
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How does a ~110 lbs kid (working alone)...

1. Shoot through a bulletproof glass door making a hole large enough to walk though using an just the AR (16 bullets) which is the official story as of now?

2. Have the schools power go out moments after the first shot is fired, killing all video surveillance, and electronically controlled door locks.

-Powerout
Fox News Interview of a Student (video)
"We were just in the middle of gym, when we heard gunshots, then the power (muffled) went out."
[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net] (video)
(sorry for the crappy link... wish it was on YouTube... this is a VERY important video clip for multiple reasons so I do suggest you watch it... notice anything else weird that this girl says? Anyways I'll get to that at the end....).

-Doors Would Not Lock
"Once the shooting began, Mr Varga tried to lock the door to the conference room. When he found out the door would not lock, the teacher then ran down a smoke-filled hallway to safety but turned back to help his fellow staff escape." (also notice the mention of smoke-filled hallways... haven't heard that mentioned much before either)
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

3. Carry so much stuff, yet have professional marksman aim!!!
(I find it funny it is taking them so long to announce OFFICIALLY the weapon count & type... they have to be very careful what weapons "they" announce here which is why they are taking so long).

-We know he had at least 1 pistol (at very least used to "kill himself"). It will most likely be officially announced as 2 (one used on the administrative staff at the front of the school, and a single bullet from the 2nd pistol to "kill himself"...) but lets just call it 1 pistol for now.

-We know he had at least 1 AR as officially it an AR was used for most the injuries/deaths (although MULTIPLE are mentioned by first responding at ~4:48 in the first link of this post "be advised we have multiple weapons, including long gun(S) & shotgun(S)". But again lets stick with just 1 since no one is being very transparent with us about wtf was found.

-We know he had at least 1 shotgun (again the quote above mentions multiple but lets stick with 1 for now). I believe officially they will only announce 1 shotgun total... meaning the one in the trunk and that there were none found inside the school.... let's call it a hunch... but hey lets go with their story for now that at least 1 shotgun is also found inside the school.

-Extra ammo for the guns. From what I recall hearing officially there was at least 3 clips of ammo used for the AR (16 bullets into the front door, and the rest used later in the classroom(s)). I have heard no mention about other extra clips that may of been on scene, so we will just stick with 3 extra clips for an AR (even though there was likely other extra ammo on scene as well).

-We have accounts of the hallways being filled with smoke. Since there was no account of a fire magically starting we can only assume it was smoke grenades (similar to the Aurora shootings... how interesting). So lets say 1 smoke grenade, even though it was most likely multiple.

-He was apparently wearing body armor (I assume has to weigh 10 or more lbs at least...).

-At least 1 smoke grenade (most likely multiple)

-He was apparently also wearing a mask (which would restrict breathing and be especially exhausting if doing something as active as running around shooting people (I can't think of any situation which could possibly raise your heart rate higher/faster) all the while carrying all that extra weight. A mask would also somewhat restrict vision, yet "Adam" from the official version sounds like he had a well above expected hit/miss ratio considering the person/situation.

Ok so here we have it...
-1 pistol (most likely 2 pistols)
-1 AR (even though multiple are mentioned, in the end it will likely be reported 1 AR total... again a hunch.)
-1 Shotgun (again even though multiple are mentioned. I think in the final story it will be 1 total (the one in the trunk... but how did it get there if it was at one point inside the school to be seen? I won't get into that now)
-Full ammo for all 3+ weapons + at least 3 clips of extra ammo for the AR (most likely more ammo for all the weapons).
-a ~10 lbs bulletproof vest.
-1 Smoke Grenade (most likely more)
-A mask which would restrict vision/breathing (and having in the first place makes no sense if you plan on killing yourself).

Doesn't that seem like a lot of weight for a ~110 kid to be carrying around without issue while having professional accuracy none the less?

Anyways just curious about peoples thoughts on the 3 points I mentioned above.



...Oh and on a side note I am also kind of curious why no one seems to be mentioning the 3 people should of been taken into custody based on radio/video evidence but only 1 ended up being taken in... and that 1 man was later let go. How does 2 become 1 become 0 (~15 min delay) become 1 in custody?

Lastly and BY FAR most important, why is it that no one seems to be questions how 2 police were inside the school DURING the shooting... yes you heard that right.

"then police men came in, and they um just like asked if um he was in here. But then we had climbed to the closets and um we heard more gunshots..."
[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net]
(again sorry for the crappy link... really which is IMPORTANT video was on youtube)

Really? (2) Police ask you if you have seen him and then shortly after that there was more gunshots? Why did no one on the police scanner report first hand shots fired at any point? Why is it commonly believed that the first police didn't show up 10-20 mins after shooting stopped when in fact based on this little girl they were inside when the shooting was happening (and even based on police scanner recording shows 2 police inside the school in less then ~2 after shooting stopped...) and how the hell were 2 police officers already inside the school DURING the shooting to begin with? (and coincidentally both don't use their police radio's until after the shooting stops and play the most important police roll of the day, chasing 2 people/suspects, announcing the wrong weapons on scene, finding Adam's body... as heard in the first link of this post...)?

I won't push my theory to hard on people... but I think you get the jist of where you should start putting some of your research/focus. Timeline the events/police activity using any "official" audio/video you can about the event and see if you come up with a similar "discrepancy" that doesn't seem to at all be mentioned... who were the 2 police INSIDE the school magically DURING the shooting (police presence during the actual shooting goes directly against the official story by the way... yet can be proven) and why didn't they use their police radio's until after more police arrived on scene ~2-3 minutes later (and why were both these men so interested in drawing attention away from the schools back door, and constantly reinforcing the idea for the other early responding police to watch the front entrance on the police scanners?).

Makes ya think...

I guess now I just wait for the shill attacks to come huh? 1dunno1
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If their forefathers could only warn them......there is nowhere to hide......or means of escape.....from God's punishment......for those who harm the innocent.
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ya ya ya OP, we get it. It was an obvious staged event.

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