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Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...

 
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
I think Adam had been working & training with the team before hand and he went along on this mission like he did with all the other training / hanging out scenarios.

Remember his mother was killed so she cannot give any whereabouts as to what Adams activities were in the days, weeks, months leading up to the tragedy. If she were alive she could have talked about the "new job" and "new friends" that Adam had been hanging out with. Killing her off was one of the fist major red flags for me.
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Why did they originally blame it on Ryan Lanza?
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I wanted to avoid "speculation" but whatever... here is my full theory on what I generally feel happened (don't rip me a new one to hard...).

(taken from an e-mail I sent a buddy yesterday)
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Parties Involved
-2 operatives (both on duty police)
-1 cleaner (civilian)
-1 patsy (Adam Lanza)

Operation Prep (again I had to speculate for this part on what "likely" happened as there is 0 information about what took place at Adam's house... other then the mom died... weapons and her car were taken, and his computer was smashed.)

2 on duty police (1 car) go to Adams moms house early in the morning of the event and go up to her door and knock. They wake her up (still in pajama's which match official story), and tell her a distraction story to gain access to the house (such as your older son "Ryan" has been killed). She lets them in and is frantic as one would expect. They ask is anyone else in the house (knowing there is) then offers something like "would you like me to take Adam for a drive while the other officer gives you the details? Adam is fairly young, and has a mental illness (aspergers) so she would likely prefer that he not see/hear this right now as he wouldn't easily understand. The mom calls down for Adam to come upstairs. People suffering from aspergers even at Adams age normally don't like doing things when told by someone they don't know, and Adam's mom likely told Adam to go with and do whatever this man tells you (otherwise he would likely go into a fit of frustration if his mom wasn't the one that told him, but if she did he would likely be more then willing to do what was asked... his mom tells him to do it... they are police... there is no threat... he knows nothing about the fake Ryan dead story being told to his mother). The officer then brings Adam outside and puts him in the back of the police car and goes back in and makes up a lie about "another" police being out there to drive Adam around while we discuss the details (meanwhile Adam is actually outside in the back of the police car alone). They then start feeding her more details about Ryans death (all made up of course) and ask her if she has anything of Ryan's such as a picture or ideally an old ID (I know when I was that age I use to keep my old ID's... I would give them to my mom and say "I don't know if I still need this", and she would just take it and store it somewhere). She goes to get it from her room upstairs. Once she is upstairs 1 police goes downstairs to gain access to and prep the 4 patsy guns, the other yells up stalling the mom asking her questions "what age was Ryan", "when was the last time you saw him"... and eventually makes his way up stairs as if hes having a hard time hearing her answers. She's in her room at this point looking for a picture/ID of Ryan, which we can assume she found (the ID found in Adams pocket... I'll get into that more later) and hands it to the officer which is now standing in/near her room (most likely right in the door to her room). The 2nd police then makes his way upstairs with 1 of the 4 guns (AR) and shoot her dead on the bed (matches official story). They go downstairs and smash his computer (matches official story, and is used to draw extra attention to Adam being the killer... why else would he smash his computer right? also to possibly destroy some form of traceable evidence (maybe they also spoke to Adam via the internet before all this went down)) Anyways, they then take the 4 prepped and ready weapons (1 of which was used to kill her... again matching official story), grab her car keys (match official story) and put the weapons in the trunks of the car(s) (2 in each car... 1 pistol & 1 AR in the police car with 1 police & Adam and 1 pistol & 1 shotgun in Adam's moms car which the other officer will now drive).

Once the mother is killed, the patsy vehicle is obtained, the patsy is obtained, and the patsy weapons are obtained they make a call to their civilian counterpart (the cleaner) to make sure he is in position. The cleaner arrives at the school well before the shooting, for a legitimate reason and is buzzed in willingly (in this SPECIFIC case the cleaner was their helping his daughters class build gingerbread houses... her class was not shot up and this mans daughter lived the event unharmed... go figure). Anyways the cleaners first job is complete, he has access to the inside of the school well before the shooting, gets the call from the 2 police and says he's in position and will be ready at the "scheduled time".

So just to clarify before going into the op itself... that's 3 cars total, 4 people total.
-Adam's Moms car = operative 1... 1 pistol + 1 shotgun = On way to school
-1 Police Car = operative 2 + patsy Adam... 1 pistol + 1 AR = On way to school
-Cleaners Car = no weapons = At school ahead of time

Also before going into the op I should mention the clothing adjustments that would be made before arriving at the school (you will see why this is important in a minute).
Operative 1 = Mask, Dark Jacket (with dark shirt), Camo Pants, Gloves... with his police uniform under it
Operative 2 = Mask (not wearing yet), Dark Jacket (with dark shirt), Camo Pants, Gloves (not wearing yet).... also with his police uniform under it
***Not that WITHOUT the MASK on these outfits would not draw a lot of suspicious attention (dark jacket/camo pants)... fact is you could blend in fairly well with it (until shots are fired that is).
Adam = Irrelevant
Cleaner = Irrelevant


The Black Op
The 2 operatives show up at the school in their 2 separate vehicles at around the same time (again both are dressed the same... this is a key point to remember). Operative 1's job is to breech the front door and take care of the administrative staff, Operative 2's job is the 2 classroom (with his entry made though the back door)... both men will "appear" to be the same person based on eyewitness accounts (due to them looking identical and never being seen at the same place at the same time... ever see the movie Inside Man?).

So basically how I see it going down...

Operative 1 arrives in Adams moms car puts his mask/gloves on (again dressed in a dark shirt & jacket with camo pants), goes to his trunk and grabs the 2 weapons he has (1 pistol, 1 shotgun) and heads to the entrance of the school (he doesn't have to be subtle about it... people are going to think hes Adam in a few minutes... and why wouldn't they... everything lines up so far). At the same time Operative 2 gets out of the police car (again wearing a dark shirt & jacket with camo pants & gloves), puts the mask in his pocket & also grabs the 2 weapons he has from the trunk (1 pistol, 1 AR). Operative 2 would have to be more subtle then Operative 1 as he will be entering from an "unofficial" entry point (the back door) so the pistol would be 100% hidden, and the AR would be tucked under his jacket as much as possible (the patsy Adam would be made to walk in front of him to assist in hiding the mostly concealed AR as they make their way towards the back of the school). Also anyone in the area that is paying attention to their surroundings would be more focused on Op 1 which blatantly has a mask on with an exposed shotgun in hand on the front lawn (so Op 2 would have little issue being basically unnoticed making his way to the back entrance with the needed patsy).

OK so quick update
-Operative 1 going towards front entrance, mask and all, holding a shotgun...
-Operative 2 going towards the back entrance, mask hidden, guns hidden, with the Patsy Adam...
-Cleaner inside the school waiting for his signal to open the back door (signal being front entrance breech).

Operative 1 then uses the shotgun (first shots fired) to blow out the "bulletproof" security glass of the front entrance door making his way into the school... keep in mind multiple shots would be needed to do this... even with a high powered shotgun (the official story is he used a total of 16 AR rounds to breech the front door which I believe to be false).

The Cleaner hearing his signal (entrance breech) opens the back door of the school and lets Operative 2 & Adam into the school. The schools security system at this point would light up letting the secretary know the back door has been opened from the inside... except a second after being let in the school's power goes out.....
"We were just in the middle of gym, when we heard gunshots, then the power (muffled) went out."
[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net]

All video surveillance, and power locks at this point stopped working (go figure).
"Once the shooting began, Mr Varga tried to lock the door to the conference room. When he found out the door would not lock, the teacher then ran down a smoke-filled hallway to safety but turned back to help his fellow staff escape."
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

After the power goes out operative 2 enters and gets into position outside the first target classroom putting on his mask and waiting for his signal (his signal being operative 1's pistol fire to finish).

Operative 1 just entering the school through the hole he breached, uses the pistol to shoot at the administrative office near the front of the school (where the principle was... or the people most likely to cause "trouble" from a black-op perspective)... from what I understand killing 4 adults and wounding 2 in this front area. He then starts making his way towards Operative 2 through the interior of the school.

Operative 2 at this time hearing his signal (pistol fire ending) waits ~5 seconds and then opens the first target classroom door and using the 1 AR shoots as many people as he can and then moves on to the 2nd classroom (again with the AR) and does the same then goes outside in the hall to meet up with the others.

So just as an update to this point both operatives, the cleaner and the patsy are now all together in the hallway outside of the 2 target classrooms and MOST the shooting that took place (at least the entrance/classroom shooting) is finished (although more shots will be fired).

Evidence Cleanup / Patsy Setup / "Official" Police Arrival
Operative 1 takes off his outfit (mask, gloves, dark shirt, dark jacket, camo pants) and gives it to the cleaner to wear which puts it on over his current clothing (the mask and gloves he takes but doesn't actually wear... these he will stash in his own car later on...). Operative 1 has his police uniform on under it.
While that is happening Operative 2 (who did the majority of the killing via the classrooms) makes his way to the front office shoots at the general "front door area" and again shooting at the administrative staff or whoever else happens to still be in that area (which is why AR rounds are found there... only because they lapped back). Anyways operative 2 then makes his way back to the other operative (which is now in his police uniform) and also takes off his outfit (mask, gloves, dark shirt, dark jacket, camo pants) but this time they put it on Adam. Operative 2 is also wearing his police uniform under it.
...so basically the lookout now looks like op 1 (minus the mask/gloves which he has but is not wearing), Adam now looks like op 2... as seen by witnesses in the school they assume it's the same 1 person (due to looking the same yet never being seen together), and the 2 operatives now look like police. Still with me?

Now at this point NO POLICE PRESENCE IS SAID TO BE ON SCENE (OFFICIALLY)... The majority of police took ~15 minutes after reports of shots being fired to arrive (mass police), BUT a few small amounts 1 car (of legit "good" police got there ~3 AFTER shots ended... so let me get this straight... no police were at/in the school while shooting was still happening huh?

"then police men came in, and they um just like asked if um he was in here. But then we had climbed to the closets and um we heard more gunshots..."
[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net]

I REALLY hope that sinks in... Shooting happens, girl sees 2 police run by saying have you seen him? the children go and hide, seconds later more gunfire... The police they saw were the 2 operatives, they hadn't changed to their "on radio" police persona's quite yet (they were dressed as police at this point but not communicating officially on the police radios yet as the patsy was still alive and no other police are on scene yet... which is why they don't speak on the police radio for another ~2-3 minutes...). They were going around making sure that no one would witness the patsy "suicide" that they were about to do seconds later... the 2 operatives were basically running around telling everyone to stay hidden (stay the fuck out of the halls... we are trying to kill/frame a patsy damn it... can't have you guys witnessing this... you get the jist). After running around the immediate area making sure the coast is clear... they shoot Adam the patsy in the head (the shot(s) heard after the girl saw police) using the 1 pistol that up to this point hadn't been used (operative 2's pistol... since he used the AR for all his classroom killing, and the other pistol was used at the front of the school) and they also put his brothers ID in his pocket to cause added confusion early on, especially since the idea of Ryan being dead was used at the start of the op to gain access to Adam's house... the ID is to cover any tracks about "that" story which they used to fool the mom before any of this began (in case someone overheard their original story told to the mom earlier somehow, about Ryan being dead... the early accounts of the killer being Ryan would wipe those accounts out (think of how an "echo" works in Minority Report...)).

The cleaner at this point grabs all "inconsistent" evidence from the scene; the extra mask, the extra gloves (puts in his own car), and by accident takes the shotgun (puts in Adam's moms trunk) and heads back to the schools back door... let me explain, I think they fucked up here. The shotgun was used to blow open the front door, but never to actually kill anyone. The cleaner when removing "inconsistent" evidence assumed the shotgun wasn't used (since he was at the back at the time and never first hand saw it used) and thought he was doing the right thing when removing it to match "what would be expected at the scene" and the operative that would of told him "no wait leave it I used that" was to busy running around the halls making sure nothing was being seen (until they killed Adam). This would normally not be an issue but one of the police on scene 5 minutes later (which is operative 2) accidentally announces it on scene (because he remembers op 1 having it, and didn't see the cleaner take it) when by this time the shotgun had actually been put in Adam's moms trunk by the cleaner... oops.

Well that brings you to about here...

Police Scanners after shots are first reported...

...which start as police are just first getting any reports of a shooting/issue at the school, and it takes 2-3 minutes for a small number of (2) "good" police to arrive... yet 2 "bad" police are magically inside before all this happens and just randomly pop up in the conversation already inside the school. The 2 operatives now in their full police persona first start using their police radios when other police arrive on scene (2-3 minutes after all shooting stops). They tell the just arriving police to cover the entrance (and don't explain how they just out of nowhere appear on the radio inside the school... no we are arriving on the scene... no we are making our way into the school... no we are looking for injuries/deaths or a suspect.... nothing... just outta nowhere when more police arrive they start communicating on the radio and are already inside the school... and keep in mind this recording is from before shots were ever reported being fired... so there is no reason it would not have any mention of the FIRST 2 police "arriving" at the scene.. it has a lot of audio proof of the 2nd squad car pulling in, them getting out, and every detail about what they do after that point... but not the 2 bad cops... they just appear out of nowhere inside). 1 of these 2 "bad" police is also involved in a lot of the important "on record" events of the day which are also caught in that recording such as...

Op 2 chases down 2 "shadows" that were seen running to the back of the school (which was actually him and the other op scoping out the current police situation but their shadows were seen by a a teacher who was on the phone with police dispatch at that time...). Op 2 over the radio pretends to see "them" (2) coming at him and pretends to chase them (its really them that's running)... he then ~1 minute later says hes detained A (1) suspect (2 people become 1) and then very shortly after is back in the school (he didn't actually detain anyone so 1 becomes 0... he said what he did just so more cops didn't come to the back door yet... AKA I got the situation handled... and they will get their planned (1) person taken into custody in a couple of minutes).

Op 2 also announces finding the first bodies, yet doesn't ask for more emergency vehicles (at this point the police don't think anything major at all has happened other then shots fired and the front door is blown out... repeatedly in the early part of that recording the police dispatch tells some of the ambulances they haven't been told to come yet so don't... because they though it was a small scale thing... not a bloodbath... no matter where op 2 was if he saw a hurt/dead body based on the official line (front office, classroom 1, classroom 2)... at least 3 other dead bodies would have to also be with that injured/dead person... why no mention "we got a mass slaughter here... much worse when we originally thought... send massive emergency response... NOW...). Instead he just brushes it off as something like "ya I found some bodies" (and half the message gets muffled out and is basically ignored by dispatch as I doubt they even heard him say what he said due to the lack of response after that was said).

Op 2 also finds the suspects (Adam) body... busy day for a single cop wouldn't you say... all the while op 1 is on the radio basically drawing attention mainly to the front of the school (or the roof)... anything to draw attention away from where all the action is (the back) for as long as possible (the cleaner is most likely doing final adjustments of on scenes forensic evidence to make sure it all looks good).

Anyways the 2 operatives (police) at this point start blending into the other police presence that is just now arriving and would be able to tell a seemingly honest account of what happened up to that point.

The cleaner waits near the back of the school (~15 mins) until he is finally detained (once the mass police presence is able to get there and they finally have the manpower on scene to actually do something). Him getting detained away from his car was crucial since it has the "inconsistent" evidence in it (if he was detained in his car they would search it... but there is a way around that).

The cleaner having a valid story (I was here making gingerbread houses with my daughters class) and being let into the school willing (buzzed in legit), and no sign of being part of a crime (no blood on clothing, no evidence of shooting a gun, having a daughter in the school, and having his 2 operative buddies vouching for him) they clear him to leave (with his car which would of never been searched as of yet). As he's leaving he would be stopped again in his car by roadblocks, but he could simply say I was already cleared, the officer would confirm this over the radio, and once confirmed let him on his way (again not searching the car... see why getting detained outside of his car becomes so crucial?).

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Anyways that's the basic jist... thoughts?
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Anyone who has handled the gear that is listed here KNOWS, this event has a lot more to it than the official story.

No way possible for a kid that size to operate with such clinical precision with that kind of load out.

Not in 20 minutes, not in 2 hours.
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TRUE--TRUE--When I served in the Army, I was just in the medical corps. But over seas Germany we did do rescue training and had to wear full gear (uniform, MOP, helmet, gas mask, ruck sack, etc.) I'm a woman and weighed about 125 lbs. We did 9 mm and Rifle training in full gear out in the field. What a joke. Most doctors and nurses just stood there or sat down. I couldn't move. It was hot, I couldn't breath, I sure as hell could not hit the target. I'm not buying this story. I was a trained combat medic and nurse. I don't see this official story happening at all. At least 3 people or more were involved. If Adam exists, he was killed and so was his mother and the children were killed to push the hysteria for gun control.

As for Aspergers, it is not a gross mental illness, he would not have been a lunatic and there is no medication to treat the disorder. If he took meds it was for something else.
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He wasn't wearing MOPP gear was he? I can't imagine why he would. But you're right just walking around in MOPP4 with all your gear is a chore and exhausting.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Dont know if you put this yet but the Honda Civic was actually not registered to Adams mom but a Chris Rodia.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
It's called tactical armour dipshit...look it up it can hold all that...learn before you speak
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Go strap a ~50 lbs weight to a ~100 lbs kids chest and see how far he can move before he collapses... my point isn't the about the armor type... my point is how does a skinny ass kid carry half his body weight in equipment, while wearing a mask restricting his breathing/vision run around doing a killing spree... most 100 lbs people would barely be able to move... let alone walk around killing people with high accuracy.
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At most that's 20 pounds...logic fail
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shill or idiot. 20 pounds my ass
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Just want to be clear that is a semi-auto rifle with a bumpfire stock.
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Break that out for dummies like me who know nothing about guns, please.
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Sure the common rifle is usually semi-automatic; as fast as you can pull the trigger one bullet each time. This special gun stock upgrade has no springs but slides at each fire allowing the gun to "bump" itself against the finger when the finger is kept in a fixed position; this is legal. As a result many bullets come out in a similar fashion to an automatic rifle.

Bump firing can be done manually without a special gun stock but is very inaccurate. Commercial bump fire stocks run $300 and one can be made at home for less than $80.

A fully automatic assault rifle; it has a mechanism inside the gun you pull the trigger once and many bullets come out. Same as used by the Army and not legal for the public to own without a very strenuous permitting and inspection process.

There is rightfully much confusion on the terms: assault weapon, assault style rifle = rifle that LOOKS like an assault rifle but is not is semi-auto. Assault rifle = FULLY automatic rifle as used by the Army not normally owned by the public is effectively outlawed by regulational burdon and cost.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
No smoke?

I guess YOU'VE never fired a hundred or more rifle rounds inside an enclosed space in the matter of minutes?

Smokeless powder isn't totally smokeless.

That would also kick up a lot of dust and debris.
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I have been in an enclosed space- at the shooting range, and shot well over 100 rounds from my very own AR in <2 min... The room was not filled with smoke. In fact, there was no "smoke" to speak of.

On that note, this is my first post here... I had to join because this whole Sandy Hook thing is just riddled with holes and as of right now, with the holidays, this is all that I can contribute. I will be digging much deeper into this in the near future. Keep asking questions though. The more questions we ask (like the OP has done here), the more the holes in the story become clear so keep up the good work.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
I think Adam had been working & training with the team before hand

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369074


Haha yeah, "working out" [QUEUE WORKOUT MONTAGE]

Fucking get real.


And think back to Oklahoma City and "John Doe #2" -- They almost fumbled pinning it on Timothy McVeigh.

 Quoting: 13th-Century


I was hoping someone would mention the killing of kids in OKC and John Doe #2. You are on the ball mystery monk.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Nice summary of what I am sure, after reading all the post on GLP this past week, many of us have been thinking. Would it not be cool if we all, together, actually started a thread, why not here, or a page with a white board, and built a time lime (complete with where the data for the timeline came from). Problem is, it would be riddled with idiots and shills and arguments would turn to everything other than what the task was at hand. I think we should at least try though.
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Agreed. I am sure the shills will arrive at any minute since this is indisputable evidence that no one seems to be focusing on...

Here is a quick jist of who I think was involved based on my research...

2 operatives (on duty police) on scene before the incident to do the actual killing. 1 in the front, 1 in the back, both dressed the same (camo pants, black jacket & mask + gloves) later switching clothing with the patsy and the cleaner (think of the movie inside man for the basic concept), each operative is assigned to 2 weapons, 1 small (2 pistols, 1 each), 1 small(1 shotgun(front op), 1 AR (back op)).

1 Patsy. Adam Lanza, which is later given op 2's clothing to match witness accounts (op 1 gives his clothing to the cleaner).

1 "civilian" which gains access to the school before the shooting using valid means, and opens the back door at a set time for the 2nd operative (classroom killer) & Adam the patsy.

The civilian (cleaner) based on radio/video evidence by the way is 2 people at first, once cought 2 becomes 1 person, which is never actually taken into custody (since the same guy that apparently cought him is back inside the school less then a minute later(and remember on scene police at this time is VERY LIMITED), and then ~15 mins later is taken into custody being found in the woods (his daughter by the way goes to the school and survived the event and was there helping her build a gingerbread house (remember how I said gained access though valid means?)). He is shortly after let go due in mainly I am sure to the first responding police (the 2 op's) vouching for him not being involved.

There is a lot more to this story then we are being told...
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It has been reported that the gingerbread-house guy, who was wearing camo pants and black jacket, lived in the same neighborhood with Adam Lanza. That should be easy to verify.

Does anyone have the addresses?

Also, gingerbread-house man is athletic director in a high school and will know many teenagers and young men in that area.
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"armour" = nice elderly person with a British accent.
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Most of the real horsepower for this cover story is coming from the UK rags.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Also, it was reported that a brand new surveillance system had been installed recently. Where is the camera footage?
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Being jerked off to by some sick fucks.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
It's called tactical armour dipshit...look it up it can hold all that...learn before you speak
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Go strap a ~50 lbs weight to a ~100 lbs kids chest and see how far he can move before he collapses... my point isn't the about the armor type... my point is how does a skinny ass kid carry half his body weight in equipment, while wearing a mask restricting his breathing/vision run around doing a killing spree... most 100 lbs people would barely be able to move... let alone walk around killing people with high accuracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28724521


At most that's 20 pounds...logic fail
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shill or idiot. 20 pounds my ass
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Shill who has never held a long gun and also an idiot for posting on something he knows nothing about.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
ya ya ya OP, we get it. It was an obvious staged event.

new topic.
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Fuck you you Queen havin child death ignroing irrelevant dipshit.
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meth meth


meth meth meth



but i think it's really meth and
mk ultra manchurian and a conspiracy of at least one more shooter
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
"armour" = nice elderly person with a British accent.
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Most of the real horsepower for this cover story is coming from the UK rags.
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And, we'd really want to consider the true source, that which is in control of the UK.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
It has been reported that the gingerbread-house guy, who was wearing camo pants and black jacket, lived in the same neighborhood with Adam Lanza. That should be easy to verify.

Does anyone have the addresses?

Also, gingerbread-house man is athletic director in a high school and will know many teenagers and young men in that area.
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There was a thread on this last night ( Thread: Reposted: Sandy Hook Massacre - Some new leads )... Somewhere in there I believe.

His name was Chris Manfredonia (or something to that effect) & I believe it was confirmed that he lived near the Lanzas..

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Dont know if you put this yet but the Honda Civic was actually not registered to Adams mom but a Chris Rodia.
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Ya know, the killers and others involved in the conspiracy have had time to start "fixing" documents and relevant data to match the ever-changing 'official' story and timeline.

I really don't believe this late entry of information because it comes about only after the conspirators start looking for a cover story for "Christopher ..." being onsite and handcuffed at the scene.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
It has been reported that the gingerbread-house guy, who was wearing camo pants and black jacket, lived in the same neighborhood with Adam Lanza. That should be easy to verify.

Does anyone have the addresses?

Also, gingerbread-house man is athletic director in a high school and will know many teenagers and young men in that area.
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There was a thread on this last night (will find & edit)...

His name was Chris Manfredonia (or something to that effect) & I believe it was confirmed that he lived near the Lanzas..
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Ya I saw that thread to, please add the link if you find it, as they seemed to be doing quite well on that specific topic.

From what I remember he lived only a few blocks from Adam's mom's house, most likely knew the family direly before the event, and indirectly was connected to them on Facebook (through a person that knows a person that knows a person...) which might be why Adam's computer needed to be smashed smashed...
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ya ya ya OP, we get it. It was an obvious staged event.

new topic.
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You are free to leave, if you don't like the thread topic.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Just want to be clear that is a semi-auto rifle with a bumpfire stock.
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Break that out for dummies like me who know nothing about guns, please.
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Sure the common rifle is usually semi-automatic; as fast as you can pull the trigger one bullet each time. This special gun stock upgrade has no springs but slides at each fire allowing the gun to "bump" itself against the finger when the finger is kept in a fixed position; this is legal. As a result many bullets come out in a similar fashion to an automatic rifle.

Bump firing can be done manually without a special gun stock but is very inaccurate. Commercial bump fire stocks run $300 and one can be made at home for less than $80.

A fully automatic assault rifle; it has a mechanism inside the gun you pull the trigger once and many bullets come out. Same as used by the Army and not legal for the public to own without a very strenuous permitting and inspection process.

There is rightfully much confusion on the terms: assault weapon, assault style rifle = rifle that LOOKS like an assault rifle but is not is semi-auto. Assault rifle = FULLY automatic rifle as used by the Army not normally owned by the public is effectively outlawed by regulational burdon and cost.
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Here:

<<< According to state police, shooter Adam Lanza, 20, had hundreds of rounds of unused, especially deadly ammunition that raises the possibility the mass killing could have been much worse, if he was given the chance. >>>

[link to www.wfsb.com]


Those hundreds of rounds had to weigh at least ten pounds. (1,000 rounds of .223 weighs around 28 lbs.)
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Thanks!! This helped. Don't see, rationally or logically, how this kid(this size and considering his personality and mental defects) could have pulled this off.

Doesn't make sense.
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hiding

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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
How does a ~110 lbs kid (working alone)...

Answer - He doesn't and he didn't.
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Scrawny little guys are usually scrappy and have good stamina. We had little Filipino guys in my old army platoon that we could load down like pack mules and road march them all day. They were little energizer bunnies. The big muscleheads would tire out way before they did. plus you can stack a bunch of them and it's still comfortable in a M113 for sleeping.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Thank you for posting this new thread!

Someone should upload my video to youtube. I posted it on anonfiles.com originally because it was easy and I don't have Youtube.

SnowgooseBob was nice enough to re-upload here:

[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net]

It is still a pretty big file since I recorded it on my phone at 1080p.

I filmed and posted the original thread and video here:

Thread: Sandy Hook Elementary - Power Went Out?

regarding the powering going out.

I also posted the fact that I noticed she stated that there was more than one police officer in the gym prior to "lots more gunshots"...

I do believe this important as it was one of the first interviews and doesn't quite fit the official timeline.

Thank you to the new OP for re-posting and elaborating on this!
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[link to psychcentral.com]

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

[link to dspace.ou.nl]

I have a nephew that had autism...now, at 22, FULL-BLOWN SCHIZOPHRENIA!
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They do not say what I bsed. Saying it is on the same gene is not to say they are the same thing or if you have aspergers (which isn't autism) you will develop schizophrenia.

BTW, I have aspergers, asshole. So does my nephew. So do several of my friends.

You really are clueless. You misread and provide typical GLP bullshit. You show you have no reading comprehension and just want to label people.
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Make sure you all STAY ON YOUR MEDS!
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jerkit
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hiding

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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
You have to remember police are military. Considering 99% come out of the military, they are military. The police cars are just not painted in Camo. You may see a corrupt cop but in reality they could just be still military doing a covert operation.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
Thank you for posting this new thread!

Someone should upload my video to youtube. I posted it on anonfiles.com originally because it was easy and I don't have Youtube.

SnowgooseBob was nice enough to re-upload here:

[link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net]

It is still a pretty big file since I recorded it on my phone at 1080p.

I filmed and posted the original thread and video here:

Thread: Sandy Hook Elementary - Power Went Out?

regarding the powering going out.

I also posted the fact that I noticed she stated that there was more than one police officer in the gym prior to "lots more gunshots"...

I do believe this important as it was one of the first interviews and doesn't quite fit the official timeline.

Thank you to the new OP for re-posting and elaborating on this!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19887656


OMG Thank you for recording that... you will never hear that child's account mentioned on TV ever again... I can guarantee that!
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
ALOT of the people, don't care if it was staged, because they think they are part of the government, they think they are the chosen and the elect, that will get to boss the other half around, spy on them, psychically prey on them.

They are psychic vampires, and there are everywhere. There are literally thousands of weirdo vampire cults now, these freaks flock to Twilight movies, they are completely into this weird vampire movement. All the musical artists, dress up like dark vampiric entities.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
most of this thread is thinking past the point.

all we need to know is, Adam Lanza did not shut the power off to the school. Thus he did not do it.
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ALOT of the people, don't care if it was staged, because they think they are part of the government, they think they are the chosen and the elect, that will get to boss the other half around, spy on them, psychically prey on them.

They are psychic vampires, and there are everywhere. There are literally thousands of weirdo vampire cults now, these freaks flock to Twilight movies, they are completely into this weird vampire movement. All the musical artists, dress up like dark vampiric entities.
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Inside every goth kid and vampie, is a good soul that just needs a good suntan to be released.
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Re: Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)...
the people who actually did this must have had awful, rotten whores for mothers.