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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18422559 United States 12/23/2012 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting these mass shootings all happen in SMALL TOWNS where the acts are so out there the Authorities in these places can't even handle them, makes it even harder to get a proper investigation. Still the whole 110 lbs kid with anxiety issues all of sudden walks out to strategically pull this off?, this that looks like things death squad assassins would do without blinking but for this to be done by a 20 year old kid just sounds just wild. t |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30741901 United States 12/23/2012 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whoever posted that FBI crap you need to get a clue MORAN! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10952472 One of the former Directors of the FBI was a KNOWN pedophile, Homosexual, and Mafia tool. The Director of the FBI is appointed by the President. If you think the FBI is anything but a TOOL of Psychopaths and NWO miscreants you have lost your mind. Let's put it another way. This is a "faction" issue over who is in control. Some factions control different jurisdictional groups. Focused Intent may just get us to the right place to take care of things. Sandusky, for example, was taken out and put in prison. You understand what I'm talking about, even thought it may seem off-topic. I am sick of being sweated over the well-being of our children! |
Top Hat Top Hat User ID: 22142383 United States 12/23/2012 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some of us care very much, Shills. Some of us have wives and husbands who are teachers and school administrators. Some of us are parents. If this thread or the Aurora anomalies were professional hits, then it doesn't matter if they add more DARE, private security and SRO officers to schools. This entire gun grab is predicated on a falsehood, if true. Many people are either going to die or be thrown in prison in future gun squabbles over a falsehood. Kids and adults are dead to serve a greater evil purpose. I cannot comprehend that people could be this calloused and murderous. But then I hear about Drone attacks of families in Afghanistan and know they are absolutely capable of this. The thought if this makes me sick. |
guncontrolltard2 User ID: 30653248 United States 12/23/2012 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whoever posted that FBI crap you need to get a clue MORAN! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10952472 One of the former Directors of the FBI was a KNOWN pedophile, Homosexual, and Mafia tool. The Director of the FBI is appointed by the President. If you think the FBI is anything but a TOOL of Psychopaths and NWO miscreants you have lost your mind. Let's put it another way. This is a "faction" issue over who is in control. Some factions control different jurisdictional groups. Focused Intent may just get us to the right place to take care of things. Sandusky, for example, was taken out and put in prison. You understand what I'm talking about, even thought it may seem off-topic. I am sick of being sweated over the well-being of our children! well, we're not talking about the safety of children, we're talking about what the hell really happened in Sandy Hook, and we want to know ALL OF IT. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10952472 South Korea 12/23/2012 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The article says... " The shooting lasted about 10 minutes. During those 10 minutes, 20 children and six adults were shot and killed " 26 people in about 10 minutes. That's approx 23 seconds per victim Lets guess it took 1 minute (60 seconds) to manuever inside the building and 30 seconds to change weapons and commit suicide. Thats going to be 8 minutes 30 seconds. That's approx 19 seconds per victim. Assuming 3 rounds popped per victim in about 5 seconds. The rifle jumps a bit after each round. Each victim, as a target, is aquired every 14 seconds After 30 rounds the perpetrator has to change magazines (this takes more time). Lets say the magazine change takes about 10 seconds, and there are at least 3 magazine changes (30 seconds). the total time is now 8 minutes or 480 seconds. Assuming 3 rounds popped per victim in about 5 seconds, that's 140 seconds. Thats going to leave approx 12 seconds to aquire each target. I guess it's possible? So, this crazy "lone gunman" kid does all this? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8240773 United States 12/23/2012 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice summary of what I am sure, after reading all the post on GLP this past week, many of us have been thinking. Would it not be cool if we all, together, actually started a thread, why not here, or a page with a white board, and built a time lime (complete with where the data for the timeline came from). Problem is, it would be riddled with idiots and shills and arguments would turn to everything other than what the task was at hand. I think we should at least try though. Quoting: Weltsmertz I had to de-activate my FaceBook page today because of the incredible abuse I was taking for saying that Sandy Hook was a set-up, or psy-ops, of some kind. I mean, people were outraged. If anyone creates a site like mentioned above...I'm interested. Let's actually solve one of these things. We cannot let them get away with all of it... |
Pale Horse User ID: 29752472 United States 12/23/2012 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I think your scenario is possible. I would ask which LE agency the bad cops belong to? Newtown, State, or something else? There is a radio recording where a cop calls dispatch for a check on a Connecticut license plate 872-YEO, saying it's a possible suspects vehicle. Dispatch responds that it's registered to Christopher Rodia with date of birth August ? 1969. He was arrested in July 2012. Maybe his car was seized? [link to www.westportnow.com] His car was photographed as it was being towed from the Sandy Hook crime scene. Scroll down this page for photo. [link to spitfirelist.com] Is it possible that the 2 bad cops drove to the Lanza neighborhood in separate cars, left cop car a block or two away from Lanzas home, then both cops took Rodias car to the house. That way they would attract less attention. Once there they shot Nancy, drugged Adam with scopaline, dressed him in camo pants and whatever else. Grabbed all the weapons and headed back to the school picking up their unmarked cop car along the way. Maybe these 2 bad cops were plain clothes, not uniformed? Just a shiny badge and black armored vests. That way there would be less costume changing in the midst of chaos? Maybe they were members of some task force with ATF? I can't find the the link for the radio scanner. It may be in here somewhere. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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GladioDaddy-O User ID: 15714917 United States 12/23/2012 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | -the confusion about Ryan/Adam, and the report that Adam had Ryan's ID; -numerous reports that the mother was a teacher when she wasn't; -the nurse's conflicting stories, highlighted on these links: [link to www.usatoday.com] [link to www.cbsnews.com] -eyewitnesses and police scanner indicate multiple suspects, but Lt. Vance clearly says nobody else was detained; -Chris Rodia Thread: Reposted: Sandy Hook Massacre - Some new leads -Gene Rosen <iframe width="640" height="360" src=" [link to www.youtube.com] frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> -the ever changing number, type, and location of the guns; -the one I've been working most closely on, the conflicting reports on the survivors from Ms. Soto's class Thread: Another Sandy Hook Inconsistency - Caught on local talk radio Thread: UPDATE: Sandy Hook Inconsistencies Abound - Survivors from Ms. Soto's class - Censored by WTIC radio Thread: MAJOR SANDY HOOK DEVELOPMENT and here's a link to another general thread on the subject: Thread: The Newtown Massace...the MAJOR DISCREPANCIES LIST (add to it) I'm sure I'm leaving out a lot. Please add to the list, and check the posts in the threads linked above for other info. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1268684 United States 12/23/2012 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok, there seems to be a consensus that the shooter was wearing military camo pants, and then this guy they pull out of the woods, just happens to be wearing camo pants. Do you go to bake ginger bread cookies with your daughter at school, in camo pants? Plus, they put him in the front of the police car. How often do you put a mass murder suspect in the front of the police car? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28017433 United States 12/23/2012 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How does a ~110 lbs kid (working alone)... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28724521 1. Shoot through a bulletproof glass door making a hole large enough to walk though using an just the AR (16 bullets) which is the official story as of now? 2. Have the schools power go out moments after the first shot is fired, killing all video surveillance, and electronically controlled door locks. -Powerout Fox News Interview of a Student (video) "We were just in the middle of gym, when we heard gunshots, then the power (muffled) went out." [link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net] (video) (sorry for the crappy link... wish it was on YouTube... this is a VERY important video clip for multiple reasons so I do suggest you watch it... notice anything else weird that this girl says? Anyways I'll get to that at the end....). -Doors Would Not Lock "Once the shooting began, Mr Varga tried to lock the door to the conference room. When he found out the door would not lock, the teacher then ran down a smoke-filled hallway to safety but turned back to help his fellow staff escape." (also notice the mention of smoke-filled hallways... haven't heard that mentioned much before either) [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] 3. Carry so much stuff, yet have professional marksman aim!!! (I find it funny it is taking them so long to announce OFFICIALLY the weapon count & type... they have to be very careful what weapons "they" announce here which is why they are taking so long). -We know he had at least 1 pistol (at very least used to "kill himself"). It will most likely be officially announced as 2 (one used on the administrative staff at the front of the school, and a single bullet from the 2nd pistol to "kill himself"...) but lets just call it 1 pistol for now. -We know he had at least 1 AR as officially it an AR was used for most the injuries/deaths (although MULTIPLE are mentioned by first responding at ~4:48 in the first link of this post "be advised we have multiple weapons, including long gun(S) & shotgun(S)". But again lets stick with just 1 since no one is being very transparent with us about wtf was found. -We know he had at least 1 shotgun (again the quote above mentions multiple but lets stick with 1 for now). I believe officially they will only announce 1 shotgun total... meaning the one in the trunk and that there were none found inside the school.... let's call it a hunch... but hey lets go with their story for now that at least 1 shotgun is also found inside the school. -Extra ammo for the guns. From what I recall hearing officially there was at least 3 clips of ammo used for the AR (16 bullets into the front door, and the rest used later in the classroom(s)). I have heard no mention about other extra clips that may of been on scene, so we will just stick with 3 extra clips for an AR (even though there was likely other extra ammo on scene as well). -We have accounts of the hallways being filled with smoke. Since there was no account of a fire magically starting we can only assume it was smoke grenades (similar to the Aurora shootings... how interesting). So lets say 1 smoke grenade, even though it was most likely multiple. -He was apparently wearing body armor (I assume has to weigh 10 or more lbs at least...). -At least 1 smoke grenade (most likely multiple) -He was apparently also wearing a mask (which would restrict breathing and be especially exhausting if doing something as active as running around shooting people (I can't think of any situation which could possibly raise your heart rate higher/faster) all the while carrying all that extra weight. A mask would also somewhat restrict vision, yet "Adam" from the official version sounds like he had a well above expected hit/miss ratio considering the person/situation. Ok so here we have it... -1 pistol (most likely 2 pistols) -1 AR (even though multiple are mentioned, in the end it will likely be reported 1 AR total... again a hunch.) -1 Shotgun (again even though multiple are mentioned. I think in the final story it will be 1 total (the one in the trunk... but how did it get there if it was at one point inside the school to be seen? I won't get into that now) -Full ammo for all 3+ weapons + at least 3 clips of extra ammo for the AR (most likely more ammo for all the weapons). -a ~10 lbs bulletproof vest. -1 Smoke Grenade (most likely more) -A mask which would restrict vision/breathing (and having in the first place makes no sense if you plan on killing yourself). Doesn't that seem like a lot of weight for a ~110 kid to be carrying around without issue while having professional accuracy none the less? Anyways just curious about peoples thoughts on the 3 points I mentioned above. ...Oh and on a side note I am also kind of curious why no one seems to be mentioning the 3 people should of been taken into custody based on radio/video evidence but only 1 ended up being taken in... and that 1 man was later let go. How does 2 become 1 become 0 (~15 min delay) become 1 in custody? Lastly and BY FAR most important, why is it that no one seems to be questions how 2 police were inside the school DURING the shooting... yes you heard that right. "then police men came in, and they um just like asked if um he was in here. But then we had climbed to the closets and um we heard more gunshots..." [link to www.yankeewaterfowler.net] (again sorry for the crappy link... really which is IMPORTANT video was on youtube) Really? (2) Police ask you if you have seen him and then shortly after that there was more gunshots? Why did no one on the police scanner report first hand shots fired at any point? Why is it commonly believed that the first police didn't show up 10-20 mins after shooting stopped when in fact based on this little girl they were inside when the shooting was happening (and even based on police scanner recording shows 2 police inside the school in less then ~2 after shooting stopped...) and how the hell were 2 police officers already inside the school DURING the shooting to begin with? (and coincidentally both don't use their police radio's until after the shooting stops and play the most important police roll of the day, chasing 2 people/suspects, announcing the wrong weapons on scene, finding Adam's body... as heard in the first link of this post...)? I won't push my theory to hard on people... but I think you get the jist of where you should start putting some of your research/focus. Timeline the events/police activity using any "official" audio/video you can about the event and see if you come up with a similar "discrepancy" that doesn't seem to at all be mentioned... who were the 2 police INSIDE the school magically DURING the shooting (police presence during the actual shooting goes directly against the official story by the way... yet can be proven) and why didn't they use their police radio's until after more police arrived on scene ~2-3 minutes later (and why were both these men so interested in drawing attention away from the schools back door, and constantly reinforcing the idea for the other early responding police to watch the front entrance on the police scanners?). Makes ya think... I guess now I just wait for the shill attacks to come huh? I asked these exact same questions on another forum whose membership, shall we say, don't get much exposure to alternative views. Here's what one of them said> Well he was carrying an AR 15. It weighs 5 lbs. 30 shot clips are light and tote able in pockets or small bag, a Glock 9 mm, and a Siegsauer 9 mm. The shotgun and rifle remained in the trunk of his car. Any of those he carried, I could handle with ease. The AR was designed for urban or close combat and as Bushmaster says, it was designed to kill a lot of people real fast. My brother in law has one and it is D**n good at covering an area fast with a lot of shells and the clip is quickly replaced. If I can do it, Lanza could as he had practiced with it with his mother. You had the weaponry all wrong. The armament was far far in Lanza's favor. You've been so engrossed in seeing conspiracy everywhere that you see it everywhere. I don't see the problem there. One man could do it. Most of the kids had been herded in to so called safety and therefore were in cloakrooms, etc and very easy to hit. Logistics and teachers trying to hide the children worked in his favor. The element of surprise and planning tipped the scales further. No problem for a 20 yr old with experience with those weapons. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30715847 United States 12/23/2012 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are so many facets of this thing that don't add up, it can be a challenge to pick a starting point. Here's an attempt to list some of the issues that come to mind: Quoting: GladioDaddy-O -the confusion about Ryan/Adam, and the report that Adam had Ryan's ID; -numerous reports that the mother was a teacher when she wasn't; -the nurse's conflicting stories, highlighted on these links: [link to www.usatoday.com] [link to www.cbsnews.com] -eyewitnesses and police scanner indicate multiple suspects, but Lt. Vance clearly says nobody else was detained; -Chris Rodia Thread: Reposted: Sandy Hook Massacre - Some new leads -Gene Rosen <iframe width="640" height="360" src=" [link to www.youtube.com] frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> -the ever changing number, type, and location of the guns; -the one I've been working most closely on, the conflicting reports on the survivors from Ms. Soto's class Thread: Another Sandy Hook Inconsistency - Caught on local talk radio Thread: UPDATE: Sandy Hook Inconsistencies Abound - Survivors from Ms. Soto's class - Censored by WTIC radio Thread: MAJOR SANDY HOOK DEVELOPMENT and here's a link to another general thread on the subject: Thread: The Newtown Massace...the MAJOR DISCREPANCIES LIST (add to it) I'm sure I'm leaving out a lot. Please add to the list, and check the posts in the threads linked above for other info. But today the video of the school nurse claims Ms. Lanza WAS a kindergarten teacher.... a wonderful teacher Many things the nurse said were not credible, but o well |
zetuff64 User ID: 1678044 United States 12/23/2012 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | recently didnt they pass a law that says the government could use the media for propaganda..sandy-hook was just one big movie set.and drill .being filmed..and used to pass new laws..like 911...new laws against the people. not one investigated reporter has ever asked the question about the cctv cameras in school .. if this did happen.. who lured adam into the school.. and where are these children? when you find that you find the truth zetuff64 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30108220 United States 12/23/2012 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How does a ~110 lbs kid (working alone)... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 560401 Answer - He doesn't and he didn't. Scrawny little guys are usually scrappy and have good stamina. We had little Filipino guys in my old army platoon that we could load down like pack mules and road march them all day. They were little energizer bunnies. The big muscleheads would tire out way before they did. plus you can stack a bunch of them and it's still comfortable in a M113 for sleeping. I feel compelled to respond to this. Don't you think those dudes you are talking about, had to prove themselves every day? Who gets picked on in the Army more than filipino and mexican dudes? Of course they made great tunnel rats and pack mules as you so nicely describe. Like Bruce Lee was also strong as hell, but I think he weighed in around 150 or so, so you're not being really truthful. Anyway, you think Adams mom had him out doing squat thrusts each day and carrying water? Fuck no. BZZZT! try again. i think Adam's mom was the driving force behind the whole operation (for what reason, we don't know), but she got cold feet and the last minute, and Adam got pissed, and it was too late for Nancy: she had indoctrinated Adam so thoroughly to the primacy of the mission that Adam kill her so she couldn't interfere (she had also made him into cold-blooded nerves of steel). Good Lord why? Why would this poor woman want to harm anyone? Her son flipped out killed her then did a even more terrible thing. It happens. There may have been signs but predicting something like this is probably unlikely and can't be dealt with by banning things in a knee jerk reaction. Though i think some reasonable gun restrictions and a look at the culture as a whole would be good. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29019521 United States 12/23/2012 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's called tactical armour dipshit...look it up it can hold all that...learn before you speak Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5962630 Go strap a ~50 lbs weight to a ~100 lbs kids chest and see how far he can move before he collapses... my point isn't the about the armor type... my point is how does a skinny ass kid carry half his body weight in equipment, while wearing a mask restricting his breathing/vision run around doing a killing spree... most 100 lbs people would barely be able to move... let alone walk around killing people with high accuracy. At most that's 20 pounds...logic fail 20 lbs! lol; you learn that on MW2? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29019521 United States 12/23/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We KNOW it was staged. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26618617 Bottom line, the majority of sheep still believe the BS story, and NOTHING will change. Just like 9/11... Obviously staged, we all know. But did anything happen to the people planning it?? NOPE... So once again, NOTHING will come of this. Just move on... These people are untouchable. They will always Hwy away with this shit. Learn to accept it! go wash the taste of boot from your tongue and clock back into your cubicle |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18535219 United States 12/23/2012 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ex-military here with actual combat experience...it is possible for a weak person to carry a long rifle such as an AR15, and 2 pistols. The hundreds of rounds of ammo...that starts to weigh you down big time; it's not light. If he actually had a bulletproof vest of some sort, and a helmet...it starts to become very challenging and I'm surprised no one could tackle him if that's the case (if it truly is a lone gunman story). Overall, as a veteran...I absolutely question the story here, and strongly tend to think it was a black op. One of the sloppiest I've ever seen. By the way, where did we find out how much he weighed at the time of the shooting? Where did this 110 lbs number come from? Since (according to the MSM) Adam was interested in the military, perhaps he had been doing physical training on his own at home, which would help him carry the load? |
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Link33333333 User ID: 29700807 United States 12/23/2012 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Active Shooter Crisis Actors Target Mall Shootings via Visionbox" [link to finance.yahoo.com] "A new group of actors is now available nationwide for active shooter drills and mall shooting full-scale exercises, announced Visionbox, Denver's leading professional actors studio..." |
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guncontrolltard2 User ID: 30653248 United States 12/23/2012 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there are no reporters on the job at all. and usually the MSM has their lawyers go to court and demand that ALL the information be released, since this has, in fact, "a compelling public interest", and definitely since there is NO Defendant whose rights need to be protected. |
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Redcat1 Redcat User ID: 28534184 United States 12/23/2012 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some women (around 110-120 lbs) shooting ARs. Quoting: Redcat1 One gets a sore shoulder from just a few rounds at the 2:36 mark. How about the creepy fuck filming this...he needs to be put on some watch list... Yeah, sorry. Did not watch straight through at first. Definitely loses focus on the guns in favor of the girls in a few spots. |