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You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...

 
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You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
The path to ending your suffering is within. No other person can love you, help you or support you and make it all better.

This is YOUR journey.

Until you understand that, you will continue to suffer.

An ironic truth is that expecting a loved one to make the pain go away will only make the pain worse!

Listen to me very carefully. Your life will NEVER get better. Even more importantly, every life you live AFTER this one will be the same until you finally come to the understanding that nobody can stop your suffering but you.

And how do you do that? By eating right, refusing to live in hate, anger and fear. By refusing to blame ANYONE else for your suffering. To have love in your heart.

Well, I know what you are thinking right now. Bla, bla bla. Another useless pep talk. This is NOT a pep talk. NO ONE here gives a shit whether you are suffering or not. only YOU do. Now stand up and change it.

But, you can't hear me can you?

Peace
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
Our society will NEVER tell you that! They WANT you lost, afraid and suffering? Why? Because that is how you are kept under control.

I know, that over your head, but it's true.

All the media, music and Internet CONSTANTLY pushes sex, relationships, dating and marriage. WHY? WHY? Because it is a control tool.

Relationships, a partner or a marriage will NEVER make the pain end. Only YOU can do that. Until you have peace and love in your life, any partner will only increase the pain.

That is why over 50% of all marriages fail. How many live-in partnerships or relationships fail? MOST.

See? No? I didn't think so...
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
You are right. Thanks. hf
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
There's a reason God said it is not good for man to be alone. We are meant to couple up and largely incomplete otherwise. And being whole isn't "within" as you say, unless you are filled with the Holy Spirit of God through Christ. New agers such as yourself always giving really bad advice.
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
Thank you undifferentiated absolute!
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
well done OP grinning
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
There's a reason God said it is not good for man to be alone. We are meant to couple up and largely incomplete otherwise. And being whole isn't "within" as you say, unless you are filled with the Holy Spirit of God through Christ. New agers such as yourself always giving really bad advice.
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That would explain why just abpout every christian I have ever met is an emotional wreck...and christians have a higher divorce rate than non christians..and they are also THE most stressed and unhappy lot in general I have ever met.

OP made some very good points.

The only point YOU made is how blind christians are to reality.
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
First relationship love seems great, huh?

Then marriage.

The very soon after kids come along.

Then another one.

Then a car payment.

A house mortgage.

Bills, medical bills, school costs, kids clothes.

Guess what. One day you look up and you are TRAPPED! Up tp your fucking neck and there is NO way out.

So, guess what? Now the anger sets in. How stupid you were.

Then the marriage begins to fall apart.

AND YOU THEN START OVER AND DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN...

Damn........
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
There's a reason God said it is not good for man to be alone. We are meant to couple up and largely incomplete otherwise. And being whole isn't "within" as you say, unless you are filled with the Holy Spirit of God through Christ. New agers such as yourself always giving really bad advice.
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Your God is not the answer, it is part of the control structure. That is why your God wants people to marry...

Duh...
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
I'm afraid that this "rabbit hole" is way to difficult for most people to grasp.

This relationship/marriage/partner crap is one of the primary control tools used on the populous today.

Think about it. Every media form is pushing this like a pimp.

Can't you see why? CONTROL! Why else.

To sell cars, diamonds, rings, houses, EVERYTHING...
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
That sweet little young thing with the great ass will soon turn into an angry mom with three kids tied to her leg soon and you will be a damn slave.

Whose fault is that? Not hers... YOURS!

It's not just the women though. ALL of us beings are being PUSHED daily into this enslavement.

So much talk about being awakened and ascension and NO ONE sees this trap at all...
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
Thanks OP. This is the truth that I have found. I am glad I am not alone in this thinking.

The interesting twist in this is that once I found my place of responsibility and happiness inside of me at source, then I no longer felt I wanted a partner, or husband or anything outside of myself.



Those who won't listen can't.
and those who do listen, no longer need to.
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
Most will refuse to consider what I have said here. Why? Because the truth is way too painful.

I want you to understand something though. This is NOT the fault of women. It is not the fault of men. It is a control system just like drugs, cigarettes, TV and porn.

What better way to keep everyone buying than to force them toward complete enslavement through so called "love".

This isn't "love", this is about lust, pain and fear.

I know, you don't believe any of it.

That's fine with me. Bit, it's the truth...
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
Thanks OP. This is the truth that I have found. I am glad I am not alone in this thinking.

The interesting twist in this is that once I found my place of responsibility and happiness inside of me at source, then I no longer felt I wanted a partner, or husband or anything outside of myself.



Those who won't listen can't.
and those who do listen, no longer need to.
 Quoting: Little Drummer


God gave us hands and fingers for a reason.
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
Thanks OP. This is the truth that I have found. I am glad I am not alone in this thinking.

The interesting twist in this is that once I found my place of responsibility and happiness inside of me at source, then I no longer felt I wanted a partner, or husband or anything outside of myself.



Those who won't listen can't.
and those who do listen, no longer need to.
 Quoting: Little Drummer


Exactly. Thank you. Most will see me as disillusioned, angry or a marriage/family hater.

This couldn't be farther from the truth. This is part of our TRUE awakening.

Peace
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
Most will refuse to consider what I have said here. Why? Because the truth is way too painful.

I want you to understand something though. This is NOT the fault of women. It is not the fault of men. It is a control system just like drugs, cigarettes, TV and porn.

What better way to keep everyone buying than to force them toward complete enslavement through so called "love".

This isn't "love", this is about lust, pain and fear.

I know, you don't believe any of it.

That's fine with me. Bit, it's the truth...
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I am starting to think that love is not a feeling, but more like a behavior. Just what I have been pondering.
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
Does this mean that you can't enjoy being with a pretty girl or talking to some handsome guy? Of course not!

The question you have to ask yourself is WHY are you wanting to be with them. To enjoy their company or to ease your internal pain?

The former reason is great, but if it's for the latter reason, then you are kidding yourself...
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
The OP is right about one thing...the world has become (maybe always was) a machine which produces humanity like so much cannon fodder to be exploited by TPTB/media/economic/industial/military/government etc. Which is why it seems that there are those who wish to control life itself on the level of eugenics/population control. As the population grows too many variables in the civil equation seem to create a destabilization leading to chaos. Anyway you look at it, it all adds up to a fortune in suffering for the human race.
"Life is suffering...anybody who tells you different is trying to sell you something".
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Yes, you are right. We are in charge of our own lives and have a responsibility to take care of ourselves. I wish more people understood that. I have noticed how some people expect their parents, spouses, employers, and the government to take care of them and they are always miserable.
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
Most will refuse to consider what I have said here. Why? Because the truth is way too painful.

I want you to understand something though. This is NOT the fault of women. It is not the fault of men. It is a control system just like drugs, cigarettes, TV and porn.

What better way to keep everyone buying than to force them toward complete enslavement through so called "love".

This isn't "love", this is about lust, pain and fear.

I know, you don't believe any of it.

That's fine with me. Bit, it's the truth...
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I am starting to think that love is not a feeling, but more like a behavior. Just what I have been pondering.
 Quoting: Little Drummer


I believe "love" to be be the most misunderstood word in our vocabulary. This is for a reason. The word has been misused as a control tool.

Some as yourself are beginning to see the truth. Spiritual "love" is a completely different concept than the idea being pushed on society every day.

Thank you!

Peace
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
Thanks OP. This is the truth that I have found. I am glad I am not alone in this thinking.

The interesting twist in this is that once I found my place of responsibility and happiness inside of me at source, then I no longer felt I wanted a partner, or husband or anything outside of myself.



Those who won't listen can't.
and those who do listen, no longer need to.
 Quoting: Little Drummer


Exactly. Thank you. Most will see me as disillusioned, angry or a marriage/family hater.

This couldn't be farther from the truth. This is part of our TRUE awakening.

Peace
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Not sure I remembering anyone else understanding this! What I found found is that being AWAKE for me means, understanding things at a different level.
I see my whole time here on earth like I am looking at it from the outside. I have no anger, no need to tell anyone how to live or think. Just peaceful all is as it should be at all time. I have walked my talk. Laughed with delight of ow powerful nature is as my home burned down. Holding people on the edge of death not as a scary experience or as a trauma, but as just to be there to let them know this too shall pass and is just an experience. Not Good or Bad. I am able to just move on into the next moment with no looking back on anything.
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Yes, you are right. We are in charge of our own lives and have a responsibility to take care of ourselves. I wish more people understood that. I have noticed how some people expect their parents, spouses, employers, and the government to take care of them and they are always miserable.
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Yes!

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“The whole secret of existence is to have no fear. Never fear
what will become of you, depend on no one. Only the moment
you reject all help are you freed.”

-- Buddha
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Feeling delighted to have read your thread.

Love and light to you, I think we agreed to share this thread. eons ago.

You are deeply a part of me.

Thank you

Merry Christmas.
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Re: You want to know a secret truth? A relationship, a partner, a mate will not stop your suffering. Only you can do that...
Thanks OP. This is the truth that I have found. I am glad I am not alone in this thinking.

The interesting twist in this is that once I found my place of responsibility and happiness inside of me at source, then I no longer felt I wanted a partner, or husband or anything outside of myself.



Those who won't listen can't.
and those who do listen, no longer need to.
 Quoting: Little Drummer


Exactly. Thank you. Most will see me as disillusioned, angry or a marriage/family hater.

This couldn't be farther from the truth. This is part of our TRUE awakening.

Peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8850707


Not sure I remembering anyone else understanding this! What I found found is that being AWAKE for me means, understanding things at a different level.
I see my whole time here on earth like I am looking at it from the outside. I have no anger, no need to tell anyone how to live or think. Just peaceful all is as it should be at all time. I have walked my talk. Laughed with delight of ow powerful nature is as my home burned down. Holding people on the edge of death not as a scary experience or as a trauma, but as just to be there to let them know this too shall pass and is just an experience. Not Good or Bad. I am able to just move on into the next moment with no looking back on anything.
 Quoting: Little Drummer


What a beautiful way of describing what I am feeling also.

I know feel as if I am viewing my reality from a few steps removed from it.

I no longer feel guilt for my mistakes throughout my life. I have no anger or hate toward others that I felt at the time mistreated me.

I can honestly say to you that I wake up in the morning and giggle a little at this amazing reality.

I know that sounds a little crazy to many, but it's true.

As I have grown spiritually, "things" no longer hold importance in my life. I no longer care about money or possessions. I still need them, but they no longer control my life.

Little by little everything is dropping away. Until at some point even this physical body will no longer be needed any more.

See? I have NEVER been so happy as I am right now at 62 years old, living alone, travelling around the U.S. in an old truck, sleeping in truck stops and Walmart parking lots.

Ha,ha. Most would call me a bum or even a nut. But, that's ok with me.

Peace
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There's a reason God said it is not good for man to be alone. We are meant to couple up and largely incomplete otherwise. And being whole isn't "within" as you say, unless you are filled with the Holy Spirit of God through Christ. New agers such as yourself always giving really bad advice.
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No, he is correct. I, too, am a Christian.

I am alone and will remain so until the end of my days.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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Feeling delighted to have read your thread.

Love and light to you, I think we agreed to share this thread. eons ago.

You are deeply a part of me.

Thank you

Merry Christmas.
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And to you as well darlin'

Peace and love to you.
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5 stars OP!

I'm married, and have a child, to a man that I do not love.
I've spent the past 10 years trying to forget the man that I do love, who told me a month ago that he still has feelings for me too...though circumstances prevent us from being together.
Stupidly, I've been falling for a man that I met online, that happened quite by accident, with whom I have no hope of a future with, and who refuses to video chat to prove that they are who they even say they are. I think that I properly fucked that up yesterday.

Even though I had everything, a husband who loved me, a child who still adores me, parents who support me (emotionally), when it comes to love and falling in love I'm so freaking stupid. This is my Achilles Heel.
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5 stars OP!

I'm married, and have a child, to a man that I do not love.
I've spent the past 10 years trying to forget the man that I do love, who told me a month ago that he still has feelings for me too...though circumstances prevent us from being together.
Stupidly, I've been falling for a man that I met online, that happened quite by accident, with whom I have no hope of a future with, and who refuses to video chat to prove that they are who they even say they are. I think that I properly fucked that up yesterday.

Even though I had everything, a husband who loved me, a child who still adores me, parents who support me (emotionally), when it comes to love and falling in love I'm so freaking stupid. This is my Achilles Heel.
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We learn from ALL experiences, both the good and the bad experiences equally well. Try to view this a little more simplistically if you can. Try to understand that suffering is a very personal thing. Until we begin to understand that the pain will only end when we see this reality in a new way.

Not as victim or as this is all happening TO us, but that we drew these experiences to us for a reason. The reason, so we can learn from them.

I know that quite deep there, but try and think about what I have said here.

Peace
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5 stars OP!

I'm married, and have a child, to a man that I do not love.
I've spent the past 10 years trying to forget the man that I do love, who told me a month ago that he still has feelings for me too...though circumstances prevent us from being together.
Stupidly, I've been falling for a man that I met online, that happened quite by accident, with whom I have no hope of a future with, and who refuses to video chat to prove that they are who they even say they are. I think that I properly fucked that up yesterday.

Even though I had everything, a husband who loved me, a child who still adores me, parents who support me (emotionally), when it comes to love and falling in love I'm so freaking stupid. This is my Achilles Heel.
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Sad to hear but maybe this online dude had some trouble and will be back soon

I know wise words but i have a good feeling in this...
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No one is to blame for your pain. No one is to blame for your misfortune in life. No on controls you unless you wish them to. If you are victim, it is because you make yourself one.

Now, many will come on here very angry telling me stories about how they were mistreated and hurt due to no fault of their own.

At some level this is true, but at a higher level we learn through experiences we have. This is true for the good experiences as well as the bad experiences. We learn from both equally.

If you are unhappy change it. If you are abused, leave. If you are suffering, stop the suffering.

I know that this is easier said than done, but it is the ONLY way to find true happiness.

The choice is completely yours.

Peace
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“At the center of your being
you have the answer;
you know who you are
and you know what you want.”

-- Lao Tzu

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