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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28347301 12/23/2012 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Real doom for those who were thinking they could finally settle down and relax for 50 years on the government's dime. Quoting: BlueSage 13 Social Security isnot the "government's dime". My entire life (and my deceased husband who never made it to SS)paid out 15% (7 and one half percent visible, and 7 and one half percent invisible) of our wages from every pay check we ever received.- and wehave been robbed to boot, and get only the crumbs left from the king and his thieves' table . Wehavebeen so sadly HAD and bent over, it is beyond pathetic.- and wehave you and you ilk to thank. |
| juju User ID: 25664589 12/23/2012 02:01 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's sad. I don't know why the government doesn't give those retirees who are well off an income break equal to what they'd receive in Social Security every year. They're no longer paying into the SS fund. It would free up a lot of money to pay retirees who hoped they could live off of it. My parents definitely do not need the money but their attitude is they paid into so they want it. If, however, they were given a tax break, they'd take as would a lot of others in their position. juju |
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| Lips Of Lucifer User ID: 29636008 12/23/2012 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Brits have adopted the same plan as we see with the state sanctioned murder being committed behind the NHS, and the taxing of the vulnerable elderly. This is where the honey comes from...the plundering of those of the working class who have contributed and saved all their lives for their end years...The criminal will brake into and steal or rape this energy; for it is a smoothie, a con-man who will talk it's way into caviar and Moet and fun times...talking is what they see as work, and milk and apples are they things they feel they deserve for a life of hard bull-shitting. See the Global State Criminal for what it is... something on a level lower than Adam Lanza and its family..These are our global 'Leaders'...Human reptiles and insects...true filth with great dentists/// |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7570540 12/23/2012 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old people have lived through the most prosperous time in our history. The fact that some don't have a savings and rely solely on social security is really their problem - why should people working 60 hours a week and barely feeding their own kids be responsible for these elderly who couldn't be bothered to save for a rainy day. They need to move in with their kids, nieces, and nephews like in the olden days - or deal with being sick and poor. I know that sounds cruel, but this is the reality of our economic times. |
| SaveUSa User ID: 30681059 12/23/2012 02:07 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I agree that this is one very minor consequence (by comparison) of this traitorous administration being allowed to continue essentially unchecked, if memory serves me correctly, AARP was an ardent supporter of Obamacare (and therefore Obama by default). What we are seeing today with the rapid demise of social security is a direct result of this. So AARP, you are now getting what you asked for, and just wait! They've only just begun - idiots. Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27352798 12/23/2012 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to end social security right NOW. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24545480 These people need to work. If they cannot work then their family needs o support them. It is as simply as that. No more handouts. No more free ride. You are an idiot if you truly believe this. Those senior citizens on social security have paid in to the system for their entire adult lives. This is NOT a handout and it is not a free ride. It is THEIR invested money being returned to them. Food stamps are a handout. Section 8 housing is a handout. Medicaid is a handout. SOCIAL SECURITY IS NOT A HANDOUT. Neither is unemployment insurance payments. May you work at Walmart until you die. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1513486 12/23/2012 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to the AARP, "A typical 80-year-old woman will lose the equivalent of three months worth of food annually" under this plan. Quoting: BlueSage 13 This is a bad deal for current retirees. And it'll hit future retirees even harder, because the proposal cuts Social Security more and more with each passing year. After 10 years, benefits would be cut by about $500 a year for the average retiree. After 20 years, benefits would be cut by about $1,000 a year. And beyond that, it just gets worse. [link to www.aarp.org] that's our boy |
| MONSTER User ID: 2122560 12/23/2012 02:11 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | old people just cant go out and work, they are just to feeble and sick, if they dont have children who care they will live on the street and die. When social security was born the government was not to stick their hands in it. Why dont the congress and president drop their pay checks several thousand dollars, no they will never take out of their pockets KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27352798 12/23/2012 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old people have lived through the most prosperous time in our history. The fact that some don't have a savings and rely solely on social security is really their problem - why should people working 60 hours a week and barely feeding their own kids be responsible for these elderly who couldn't be bothered to save for a rainy day. They need to move in with their kids, nieces, and nephews like in the olden days - or deal with being sick and poor. I know that sounds cruel, but this is the reality of our economic times. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540 Seriously, do you not know that those "old people" have paid in to social security their whole adult life? YOU are not the one paying for their monthly check, they ALREADY paid for it. And yes, you sound heartless and cruel. Do you even have a Grandma?? You don't sound like the kind of person that would let her live in your home. And stupid on top of it. |
| MONSTER User ID: 2122560 12/23/2012 02:19 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old people have lived through the most prosperous time in our history. The fact that some don't have a savings and rely solely on social security is really their problem - why should people working 60 hours a week and barely feeding their own kids be responsible for these elderly who couldn't be bothered to save for a rainy day. They need to move in with their kids, nieces, and nephews like in the olden days - or deal with being sick and poor. I know that sounds cruel, but this is the reality of our economic times. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540 is this what our government is teaching our people? everyone for themselves? if you cant hardly feed your kids when are you going to start saving for your olden days? you think your kids are going to keep you in the future? what if they dont? where will you be. A good society cares for there old and handicapped. My God what is our country become to have raised assholes like you? KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30716324 12/23/2012 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I agree that this is one very minor consequence (by comparison) of this traitorous administration being allowed to continue essentially unchecked, if memory serves me correctly, AARP was an ardent supporter of Obamacare (and therefore Obama by default). What we are seeing today with the rapid demise of social security is a direct result of this. Quoting: SaveUSa So AARP, you are now getting what you asked for, and just wait! They've only just begun - idiots. this is true. obamacare is the aarp's wet dream come true. the fuckers dug their own grave. |
| Kirk User ID: 25384388 12/23/2012 02:23 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to end social security right NOW. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24545480 These people need to work. If they cannot work then their family needs o support them. It is as simply as that. No more handouts. No more free ride. How about the money I paid in and the money my employer paid in? You advocate stealing that? Worry is a misuse of the imagination. |
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| MONSTER User ID: 2122560 12/23/2012 02:23 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Mom got $800 a month on Social security. Could anyone here live on that? KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
| MONSTER User ID: 2122560 12/23/2012 02:26 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to end social security right NOW. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24545480 These people need to work. If they cannot work then their family needs o support them. It is as simply as that. No more handouts. No more free ride. You realize who PAYS for social security, don't you? No he doesnt, he just jumped in to argure, he must be 14 and have half a brain KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7570540 12/23/2012 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old people have lived through the most prosperous time in our history. The fact that some don't have a savings and rely solely on social security is really their problem - why should people working 60 hours a week and barely feeding their own kids be responsible for these elderly who couldn't be bothered to save for a rainy day. They need to move in with their kids, nieces, and nephews like in the olden days - or deal with being sick and poor. I know that sounds cruel, but this is the reality of our economic times. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540 Seriously, do you not know that those "old people" have paid in to social security their whole adult life? YOU are not the one paying for their monthly check, they ALREADY paid for it. And yes, you sound heartless and cruel. Do you even have a Grandma?? You don't sound like the kind of person that would let her live in your home. And stupid on top of it. People recoup, in just a couple of years, the entire amount they put into the system. That's why this is a house of cards. The program was started when there were few elderly and many young people to fund it. Now we have the opposite situation and you are ignorant if you think all the young people in this country should sacrifice for a bunch of old fools who didn't plan adequately. How my family managed the situation when my grandmother was getting on in years was the grandkids took turns staying with her at her place in town. When she got past the point of living like that, we moved her out to the farm and built on a 1st floor bedroom for her. My parents were luckier - they were able to live in their home until death. You see, I'm not young - I'm 50. I have no illusions about what is going to happen to the system. My husband and I saw the writing in the cards back when we were 21, freshly out of college, and heard the experts talking about how SS couldn't continue in the present form indefinitely. But have we done squat about it? NOPE! In thirty years we couldn't fix it??? So, we continue to qualify more young people for disability and SS (when all they have wrong is ADHD or a speech impediment), we give cost of living increases, and provide health care which we shouldn't - and now we are broke. Yes, my husband and I saved and planned for our retirement, assuming ss wasn't going to be there. If other people didn't, that's really not my problem. The Baby Boomers spent their future on cruises (I've never taken one), luxury cars (we keep ours at least 10 years), and designer clothes (not me). Stupid is as stupid does. Like I said, let them move in with the relatives (if the relatives will have them). |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13509331 12/23/2012 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blessings of the state, blessings of the masses. For more enjoyment and greater efficiency, consumption is being standardized. We are sorry ... Let us be thankful we have an occupation to fill. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30680754 12/23/2012 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to end social security right NOW. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24545480 These people need to work. If they cannot work then their family needs o support them. It is as simply as that. No more handouts. No more free ride. You realize who PAYS for social security, don't you? No he doesnt, he just jumped in to argure, he must be 14 and have half a brain we need to cut them huge pensions the government gets ,congress ,senators ,and president |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30720973 12/23/2012 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old people have lived through the most prosperous time in our history. The fact that some don't have a savings and rely solely on social security is really their problem - why should people working 60 hours a week and barely feeding their own kids be responsible for these elderly who couldn't be bothered to save for a rainy day. They need to move in with their kids, nieces, and nephews like in the olden days - or deal with being sick and poor. I know that sounds cruel, but this is the reality of our economic times. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540 is this what our government is teaching our people? everyone for themselves? if you cant hardly feed your kids when are you going to start saving for your olden days? you think your kids are going to keep you in the future? what if they dont? where will you be. A good society cares for there old and handicapped. My God what is our country become to have raised assholes like you? When the government let "everyone for themselves" and got out of the way...America had the largest economic boom in human history, largest gain in wealth and prosperity, largest increase in living standards, and the elderly and poor were taken care of through charity. The reason some don't have savings to depend on is the government spends too much and uses the FED to inflate its debt which leads to higher prices and destroys savings. Excessive taxes also take away from people savings. YOu really need look at the core problems of society as it has nothing to do with the people and everything to do with your political overlords who are corrupt and only care for themselves. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30721202 12/23/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama was thinking about compromising and going with the Chained CPI to satisfy the Tea Party. This is not Obama's preferred plan. The Tea Party is forcing these concessions. As far as welfare being a hand out. Welfare is a social safety net we all pay for. We pay it in case we loose our jobs or someone in our family looses their job. Why are we not talking about Corporate Welfare instead or the huge amount we spend in Defense (War) spending? |
| BlueSage 13 (OP) User ID: 30140528 12/23/2012 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't get it twisted people! I'm not anti SS people. I'm just saying. They went and done relied on the government for their sole source of income and now it's being robbed from them. Yea, I was trying to a bit earlier because I myself got angered over this but that's how I feel.My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design. Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test? Our free will is nearly begotten. |