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cut the food stamps first, social security is our money.
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Fuck you. They already cut food stamps. My bills went up and I got $20 a month cut from my measly $120 a month in food stamps. I needed that food. You have any idea how hard it is to eat for $100 a month? I have a wife too. Try to feed 2 people on $100 a month. Just fucking try it. Dickhead.
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how come your wife isnot collecting or something?

Did you adjust your application when the bills went up. In other words, do they know your bills went up?
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1. The average US life span has not changed that much. Everyone thinks people are living a lot longer, but it is sadly not true, especially for men. Many will die before they ever collect anything.

average US life span by year:
[link to www.infoplease.com]
 
2. Everyone thinks so many are living to be 100.
Based on the actuarial tables found on the Social Security Administration website, if you are a man (living in the US), your probability is .48% of making it to 100. 
If you are a woman, 1.66%.

[link to www.quora.com]

3. For all those saying people collect soooo much more than they pay in - figure it out for yourself. Compound interest - remember?
$50.00 a week at 6% interest for 50 years = $819,573.63 (and 6% was low for most of the years the boomers worked. Even simple savings accounts used to pay that.)
[link to www.treasurydirect.gov]
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Blue Sage you are a complete idiot. Where do you get people are going to settle on the government's dime? None of the money comes from "the government".

For your information no money comes from the government it comes from us.

Social Security is/was a fully funded operation. It is the 'borrowing' of it for off budget items that has left it with IOUs.
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The stealing of our social security money started with Reagan. Thanks Reagan, another government thief, issuing I.O.U. receipts.
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Blue Sage you are a complete idiot. Where do you get people are going to settle on the government's dime? None of the money comes from "the government".

For your information no money comes from the government it comes from us.

Social Security is/was a fully funded operation. It is the 'borrowing' of it for off budget items that has left it with IOUs.
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The stealing of our social security money started with Reagan. Thanks Reagan, another government thief, issuing I.O.U. receipts.
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+1

Couldn't keep their thieving hands out of it.
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Old people have lived through the most prosperous time in our history. The fact that some don't have a savings and rely solely on social security is really their problem - why should people working 60 hours a week and barely feeding their own kids be responsible for these elderly who couldn't be bothered to save for a rainy day. They need to move in with their kids, nieces, and nephews like in the olden days - or deal with being sick and poor. I know that sounds cruel, but this is the reality of our economic times.
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No one likes to think about the young. Old people want you to pay for their retirement, never mind that people in their 20s and 30s have college debts, might want to start their own families, can barely find work as it is and are struggling to feed their own families, if they have a family.

When Social Security was set up in the 1930s, it originally exempted business owners from paying in to it. The reason? The government thought if you were smart enough to run your own business then you shouldn't have to pay in to Social Security. Stated different, the average person is too stupid to save money.

Many people will decry these cuts as barbaric, but Social Security is a terrible program to begin with. Just because politicians over promised the Baby Boomers, doesn't mean that Social Security is underfunded. That's why promises shouldn't be made unless they can be kept. But politicians don't care about the public, they only care about themselves and getting elected.

Baby Boomers will just have to admit they were lied to and bought in to the idea of a generational ponzi scheme. Either there's honest cuts to Social Security and other entitlement programs or the purchasing power of our money will further decline due to higher inflation than what already exists.

Regardless, we're all going to pay dearly for the idiotic policies voted for by the masses and implemented by the political class. Thanks to military adventurism, excessive taxes, excessive regulations, Wall Street fraud, enormous government deficits and Ben Bernanke monetizing our deficits to the tune of over $1 trillion a year, we're all fucked.

If you're old, consider moving back in with your kids. If you're young, consider moving to another country that has more freedom and opportunity.

"A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything you have...." -Thomas Jefferson
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Both you guys are fucking MISINFORMED. Let me get this straight. A person who spent 50 years working and had a percentage of his income taken out for Social Securiy every pay day, year in, year out, HAS NO RIGHT TO THAT MONEY?

Are you shitting me? The fact that the government STOLE all of their money and left IOU's, is not their fault.

What's this shit about "well, they already lived a good life, just let them move in with their kids or accept being destitute"

Go fuck yourselves. The baby boomers are entitled to ALL the money THEY paid into their own account.
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all of this shows one thing, that the Federal Government and can't manage anything...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Thousands of baby boomers are retiring every month
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There are also thousands of legals and illegals applying for welfare, food stamps, and medicaid every month so what are you saying?
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40 Million+ abortions on U.S. Citizen women since abortion was made legal. Those aborted babies would have been born U.S. Citizens.. another potential 40 Million people in the work force to be Taxed. Instead, allow LEGAL immigration. Instead, overlook Illegal Immigration.
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horse shit , that would make 40 million more clowns living at home with useless degrees.
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cut the food stamps first, social security is our money.
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Fuck you. They already cut food stamps. My bills went up and I got $20 a month cut from my measly $120 a month in food stamps. I needed that food. You have any idea how hard it is to eat for $100 a month? I have a wife too. Try to feed 2 people on $100 a month. Just fucking try it. Dickhead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21000351


Why don't you get a job and stop sucking off the system, and if one job can't cut it, get two, lazy prick.
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cut the food stamps first, social security is our money.
 Quoting: OutdoorsMan


Fuck you. They already cut food stamps. My bills went up and I got $20 a month cut from my measly $120 a month in food stamps. I needed that food. You have any idea how hard it is to eat for $100 a month? I have a wife too. Try to feed 2 people on $100 a month. Just fucking try it. Dickhead.
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how come your wife isnot collecting or something?

Did you adjust your application when the bills went up. In other words, do they know your bills went up?
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Get a job?! I have spent 8 hours a day for the last month trying to get a job. They ain't any.
And yes, I told them of the higher bills.
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Old people have lived through the most prosperous time in our history. The fact that some don't have a savings and rely solely on social security is really their problem - why should people working 60 hours a week and barely feeding their own kids be responsible for these elderly who couldn't be bothered to save for a rainy day. They need to move in with their kids, nieces, and nephews like in the olden days - or deal with being sick and poor. I know that sounds cruel, but this is the reality of our economic times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540


No one likes to think about the young. Old people want you to pay for their retirement, never mind that people in their 20s and 30s have college debts, might want to start their own families, can barely find work as it is and are struggling to feed their own families, if they have a family.

When Social Security was set up in the 1930s, it originally exempted business owners from paying in to it. The reason? The government thought if you were smart enough to run your own business then you shouldn't have to pay in to Social Security. Stated different, the average person is too stupid to save money.

Many people will decry these cuts as barbaric, but Social Security is a terrible program to begin with. Just because politicians over promised the Baby Boomers, doesn't mean that Social Security is underfunded. That's why promises shouldn't be made unless they can be kept. But politicians don't care about the public, they only care about themselves and getting elected.

Baby Boomers will just have to admit they were lied to and bought in to the idea of a generational ponzi scheme. Either there's honest cuts to Social Security and other entitlement programs or the purchasing power of our money will further decline due to higher inflation than what already exists.

Regardless, we're all going to pay dearly for the idiotic policies voted for by the masses and implemented by the political class. Thanks to military adventurism, excessive taxes, excessive regulations, Wall Street fraud, enormous government deficits and Ben Bernanke monetizing our deficits to the tune of over $1 trillion a year, we're all fucked.

If you're old, consider moving back in with your kids. If you're young, consider moving to another country that has more freedom and opportunity.

"A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything you have...." -Thomas Jefferson
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


Both you guys are fucking MISINFORMED. Let me get this straight. A person who spent 50 years working and had a percentage of his income taken out for Social Securiy every pay day, year in, year out, HAS NO RIGHT TO THAT MONEY?

Are you shitting me? The fact that the government STOLE all of their money and left IOU's, is not their fault.

What's this shit about "well, they already lived a good life, just let them move in with their kids or accept being destitute"

Go fuck yourselves. The baby boomers are entitled to ALL the money THEY paid into their own account.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


hey cunt wipe go read on the SS site itself , supreme court ruling in the 50's.
says SS is a tax not a contractual entitlement. do your own homework fucko just cause you delusionally think its a contractual obligation does not make it so.

LOL you in for a rude awakening
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According to the AARP, "A typical 80-year-old woman will lose the equivalent of three months worth of food annually" under this plan.

This is a bad deal for current retirees. And it'll hit future retirees even harder, because the proposal cuts Social Security more and more with each passing year. After 10 years, benefits would be cut by about $500 a year for the average retiree. After 20 years, benefits would be cut by about $1,000 a year. And beyond that, it just gets worse.

[link to www.aarp.org]
 Quoting: BlueSage 13



That's because this society views everyone over the age of 50 as worthless . . .

To all the young people who blame boomers for all the problems in the world and everyone who thinks the elderly serve no purpose: I suggest you stop and consider that if this planet is still around and if you all make it past 50, how will YOU feel when all the young people point fingers and want to get rid of YOU? How will you feel then?
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No a bad deal was SS at 15 % with emplouer contributions for every year worked after 1976. As opposed to 4 % pre employer contributions pre 1976.
A whole lot of non boomers would have loved to work their first 10 20 30 40 years paying 4 %. Fuck off you pensionista garbage
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Old people have lived through the most prosperous time in our history. The fact that some don't have a savings and rely solely on social security is really their problem - why should people working 60 hours a week and barely feeding their own kids be responsible for these elderly who couldn't be bothered to save for a rainy day. They need to move in with their kids, nieces, and nephews like in the olden days - or deal with being sick and poor. I know that sounds cruel, but this is the reality of our economic times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540


No one likes to think about the young. Old people want you to pay for their retirement, never mind that people in their 20s and 30s have college debts, might want to start their own families, can barely find work as it is and are struggling to feed their own families, if they have a family.

When Social Security was set up in the 1930s, it originally exempted business owners from paying in to it. The reason? The government thought if you were smart enough to run your own business then you shouldn't have to pay in to Social Security. Stated different, the average person is too stupid to save money.

Many people will decry these cuts as barbaric, but Social Security is a terrible program to begin with. Just because politicians over promised the Baby Boomers, doesn't mean that Social Security is underfunded. That's why promises shouldn't be made unless they can be kept. But politicians don't care about the public, they only care about themselves and getting elected.

Baby Boomers will just have to admit they were lied to and bought in to the idea of a generational ponzi scheme. Either there's honest cuts to Social Security and other entitlement programs or the purchasing power of our money will further decline due to higher inflation than what already exists.

Regardless, we're all going to pay dearly for the idiotic policies voted for by the masses and implemented by the political class. Thanks to military adventurism, excessive taxes, excessive regulations, Wall Street fraud, enormous government deficits and Ben Bernanke monetizing our deficits to the tune of over $1 trillion a year, we're all fucked.

If you're old, consider moving back in with your kids. If you're young, consider moving to another country that has more freedom and opportunity.

"A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything you have...." -Thomas Jefferson
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


Both you guys are fucking MISINFORMED. Let me get this straight. A person who spent 50 years working and had a percentage of his income taken out for Social Securiy every pay day, year in, year out, HAS NO RIGHT TO THAT MONEY?

Are you shitting me? The fact that the government STOLE all of their money and left IOU's, is not their fault.

What's this shit about "well, they already lived a good life, just let them move in with their kids or accept being destitute"

Go fuck yourselves. The baby boomers are entitled to ALL the money THEY paid into their own account.
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You are forgetting about the entire generation of housewives who have been collecting social security and never worked in their lives.
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We need to end social security right NOW.

These people need to work. If they cannot work then their family needs o support them. It is as simply as that.

No more handouts. No more free ride.
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screw you asshole. I have paid in every year since I was 15 years old , I am 57 now. My Mother and Father paid their entire lives and died too young to collect a single penny.

WE PAID THE MONEY = IT IS OURS.

This is no hand out like with section 8 housing, Obama phones and welfare.. Get your facts straight
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We need to end social security right NOW.

These people need to work. If they cannot work then their family needs o support them. It is as simply as that.

No more handouts. No more free ride.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24545480


screw you asshole. I have paid in every year since I was 15 years old , I am 57 now. My Mother and Father paid their entire lives and died too young to collect a single penny.

WE PAID THE MONEY = IT IS OURS.

This is no hand out like with section 8 housing, Obama phones and welfare.. Get your facts straight
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how about you get your facts straight fucko, read the legal precedent about SS not being a contractual pay out. Age 57 ? You must be one epic fucktard after watching TV and drinking kool aid for that long , grand pa.


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In its ruling, the Court rejected this argument and established the principle that entitlement to Social Security benefits is not contractual right.

Apparently stupid is a strong horse that can ridden far from cradle to grave. How exactly does one get to be senior without learning to read the fine print ?
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They changed the rules. When the social security was sold to the American public, it was clearly said to be an insurance program they were buying. It changed over time. This is NOT a case of people not reading the fine print. It was changed, quietly.

It's really an old, old story repeated many times. I recall reading an old German child's story about this very thing many years ago, and that was from the middle ages.
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Old people have lived through the most prosperous time in our history. The fact that some don't have a savings and rely solely on social security is really their problem - why should people working 60 hours a week and barely feeding their own kids be responsible for these elderly who couldn't be bothered to save for a rainy day. They need to move in with their kids, nieces, and nephews like in the olden days - or deal with being sick and poor. I know that sounds cruel, but this is the reality of our economic times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540


No one likes to think about the young. Old people want you to pay for their retirement, never mind that people in their 20s and 30s have college debts, might want to start their own families, can barely find work as it is and are struggling to feed their own families, if they have a family.

When Social Security was set up in the 1930s, it originally exempted business owners from paying in to it. The reason? The government thought if you were smart enough to run your own business then you shouldn't have to pay in to Social Security. Stated different, the average person is too stupid to save money.

Many people will decry these cuts as barbaric, but Social Security is a terrible program to begin with. Just because politicians over promised the Baby Boomers, doesn't mean that Social Security is underfunded. That's why promises shouldn't be made unless they can be kept. But politicians don't care about the public, they only care about themselves and getting elected.

Baby Boomers will just have to admit they were lied to and bought in to the idea of a generational ponzi scheme. Either there's honest cuts to Social Security and other entitlement programs or the purchasing power of our money will further decline due to higher inflation than what already exists.

Regardless, we're all going to pay dearly for the idiotic policies voted for by the masses and implemented by the political class. Thanks to military adventurism, excessive taxes, excessive regulations, Wall Street fraud, enormous government deficits and Ben Bernanke monetizing our deficits to the tune of over $1 trillion a year, we're all fucked.

If you're old, consider moving back in with your kids. If you're young, consider moving to another country that has more freedom and opportunity.

"A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything you have...." -Thomas Jefferson
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Both you guys are fucking MISINFORMED. Let me get this straight. A person who spent 50 years working and had a percentage of his income taken out for Social Securiy every pay day, year in, year out, HAS NO RIGHT TO THAT MONEY?

Are you shitting me? The fact that the government STOLE all of their money and left IOU's, is not their fault.

What's this shit about "well, they already lived a good life, just let them move in with their kids or accept being destitute"

Go fuck yourselves. The baby boomers are entitled to ALL the money THEY paid into their own account.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


Which is why I don't like the Social Security program. Not only is it immoral in that it steals from young people, you can't count on government to manage your money. Others have also pointed that many people will die before the age of 65.

The best way government can help us, financially, at least, is to lower all of our taxes so we get to keep more of what we earn. Instead, government will advocate more ridiculous programs like Social Security to create ever more dependency and will continue to steal money from us all, which will be given to their buddies on Wall Street and in the military industrial complex. Sadly, I think the public will also cry out for more social welfare programs and the money that was supposed to fund those programs will then be squandered as well. It won't be long before we're all paying a marginal rate of 75% in taxes like the top earners in France.
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Old people have lived through the most prosperous time in our history. The fact that some don't have a savings and rely solely on social security is really their problem - why should people working 60 hours a week and barely feeding their own kids be responsible for these elderly who couldn't be bothered to save for a rainy day. They need to move in with their kids, nieces, and nephews like in the olden days - or deal with being sick and poor. I know that sounds cruel, but this is the reality of our economic times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540


No one likes to think about the young. Old people want you to pay for their retirement, never mind that people in their 20s and 30s have college debts, might want to start their own families, can barely find work as it is and are struggling to feed their own families, if they have a family.

When Social Security was set up in the 1930s, it originally exempted business owners from paying in to it. The reason? The government thought if you were smart enough to run your own business then you shouldn't have to pay in to Social Security. Stated different, the average person is too stupid to save money.

Many people will decry these cuts as barbaric, but Social Security is a terrible program to begin with. Just because politicians over promised the Baby Boomers, doesn't mean that Social Security is underfunded. That's why promises shouldn't be made unless they can be kept. But politicians don't care about the public, they only care about themselves and getting elected.

Baby Boomers will just have to admit they were lied to and bought in to the idea of a generational ponzi scheme. Either there's honest cuts to Social Security and other entitlement programs or the purchasing power of our money will further decline due to higher inflation than what already exists.

Regardless, we're all going to pay dearly for the idiotic policies voted for by the masses and implemented by the political class. Thanks to military adventurism, excessive taxes, excessive regulations, Wall Street fraud, enormous government deficits and Ben Bernanke monetizing our deficits to the tune of over $1 trillion a year, we're all fucked.

If you're old, consider moving back in with your kids. If you're young, consider moving to another country that has more freedom and opportunity.

"A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything you have...." -Thomas Jefferson
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


Both you guys are fucking MISINFORMED. Let me get this straight. A person who spent 50 years working and had a percentage of his income taken out for Social Securiy every pay day, year in, year out, HAS NO RIGHT TO THAT MONEY?

Are you shitting me? The fact that the government STOLE all of their money and left IOU's, is not their fault.

What's this shit about "well, they already lived a good life, just let them move in with their kids or accept being destitute"

Go fuck yourselves. The baby boomers are entitled to ALL the money THEY paid into their own account.
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They really are the dumbest generation. They for get that there was such a thing as the draft and that boys became men. Now all they have is Doom 1,2,3 and an ipad so they can scream "gimme" all day long. They are the real losers cause when the SHTF and it will, they are not going to be able to man up. Just ask any combat vet. You man up or die....
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SS should be phased out completely.It is unconstitutional and unsustainable......Nothing but a giant ponzi scheme from the beginning!I am NOT my brothers keeper and am sick and tired for paying ANYTHING to the people who mostly ARE and WERE a bunch of fucking bums all their lives!
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Go forth and perform the imposible act upon thyself.... what an ignorant sob...
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Thousands of baby boomers are retiring every month
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dream on...
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We need to end social security right NOW.

These people need to work. If they cannot work then their family needs o support them. It is as simply as that.

No more handouts. No more free ride.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24545480


You are an idiot if you truly believe this.

Those senior citizens on social security have paid in to the system for their entire adult lives. This is NOT a handout and it is not a free ride. It is THEIR invested money being returned to them.

Food stamps are a handout. Section 8 housing is a handout. Medicaid is a handout. SOCIAL SECURITY IS NOT A HANDOUT. Neither is unemployment insurance payments.

May you work at Walmart until you die.
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Old people have lived through the most prosperous time in our history. The fact that some don't have a savings and rely solely on social security is really their problem - why should people working 60 hours a week and barely feeding their own kids be responsible for these elderly who couldn't be bothered to save for a rainy day. They need to move in with their kids, nieces, and nephews like in the olden days - or deal with being sick and poor. I know that sounds cruel, but this is the reality of our economic times.
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is this what our government is teaching our people? everyone for themselves? if you cant hardly feed your kids when are you going to start saving for your olden days? you think your kids are going to keep you in the future? what if they dont? where will you be. A good society cares for there old and handicapped. My God what is our country become to have raised assholes like you?
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cut the food stamps first, social security is our money.
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you get both?

no other country does.
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End Social Security! Most young people don't want to be in it and the Government shouldn't FORCE us to be in this ponzi scheme. SS and Medicare are insolvent and will likely collapse with in a couple years anyway.
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Listen, butthead, NOBODY wanted to be in it; however, I paid the MAXIMUM that was allowed for over 30 years of work not because i was rich but because i manned up and did what needed to be done when it ought to be done whether i liked it or not. Now you cry babies are boo-hooing and sheading tears 'cause you have to pay into it not expecting anything in return. You must not only be dumb but blind as well because a freakin' blind, dumb and deaf person could read the writing on the frickin' wall. This country will not exist in four more years much less by the time you maybe might have could have collected social security. Grow a pair.....
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cut the food stamps first, social security is our money.
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Fuck you. They already cut food stamps. My bills went up and I got $20 a month cut from my measly $120 a month in food stamps. I needed that food. You have any idea how hard it is to eat for $100 a month? I have a wife too. Try to feed 2 people on $100 a month. Just fucking try it. Dickhead.
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Why don't you get a job and stop sucking off the system, and if one job can't cut it, get two, lazy prick.
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cut the food stamps first, social security is our money.
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Fuck you. They already cut food stamps. My bills went up and I got $20 a month cut from my measly $120 a month in food stamps. I needed that food. You have any idea how hard it is to eat for $100 a month? I have a wife too. Try to feed 2 people on $100 a month. Just fucking try it. Dickhead.
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how come your wife isnot collecting or something?

Did you adjust your application when the bills went up. In other words, do they know your bills went up?
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Get a job?! I have spent 8 hours a day for the last month trying to get a job. They ain't any.
And yes, I told them of the higher bills.
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Yes, folks, another Anonymous Coward "asswipe" ...
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12/23/2012 10:54 PM

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Old people have lived through the most prosperous time in our history. The fact that some don't have a savings and rely solely on social security is really their problem - why should people working 60 hours a week and barely feeding their own kids be responsible for these elderly who couldn't be bothered to save for a rainy day. They need to move in with their kids, nieces, and nephews like in the olden days - or deal with being sick and poor. I know that sounds cruel, but this is the reality of our economic times.
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No one likes to think about the young. Old people want you to pay for their retirement, never mind that people in their 20s and 30s have college debts, might want to start their own families, can barely find work as it is and are struggling to feed their own families, if they have a family.

When Social Security was set up in the 1930s, it originally exempted business owners from paying in to it. The reason? The government thought if you were smart enough to run your own business then you shouldn't have to pay in to Social Security. Stated different, the average person is too stupid to save money.

Many people will decry these cuts as barbaric, but Social Security is a terrible program to begin with. Just because politicians over promised the Baby Boomers, doesn't mean that Social Security is underfunded. That's why promises shouldn't be made unless they can be kept. But politicians don't care about the public, they only care about themselves and getting elected.

Baby Boomers will just have to admit they were lied to and bought in to the idea of a generational ponzi scheme. Either there's honest cuts to Social Security and other entitlement programs or the purchasing power of our money will further decline due to higher inflation than what already exists.

Regardless, we're all going to pay dearly for the idiotic policies voted for by the masses and implemented by the political class. Thanks to military adventurism, excessive taxes, excessive regulations, Wall Street fraud, enormous government deficits and Ben Bernanke monetizing our deficits to the tune of over $1 trillion a year, we're all fucked.

If you're old, consider moving back in with your kids. If you're young, consider moving to another country that has more freedom and opportunity.

"A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything you have...." -Thomas Jefferson
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Both you guys are fucking MISINFORMED. Let me get this straight. A person who spent 50 years working and had a percentage of his income taken out for Social Securiy every pay day, year in, year out, HAS NO RIGHT TO THAT MONEY?

Are you shitting me? The fact that the government STOLE all of their money and left IOU's, is not their fault.

What's this shit about "well, they already lived a good life, just let them move in with their kids or accept being destitute"

Go fuck yourselves. The baby boomers are entitled to ALL the money THEY paid into their own account.
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You are forgetting about the entire generation of housewives who have been collecting social security and never worked in their lives.
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An entire generation, eh? Exaggerate much? The Ponzi scheme has already been paid out.

Housewives do not collect S.S. unless they are widowed with children. If they remarried, didn't report the marriage, still collecting and get caught, they will have to pay it all back from the date of remarriage.

On the other hand, there are full able bodied men I've known who are in their 20's, 30's, and 40s who are collecting SSI, working under the table when they feel like it doing handyman work. They collect SSI because some corrupt ass hat head doctor wrote a note claiming they're bi-polar, as if they are nothing more than a torso.

No doubt this goes on with both genders who have never worked and paid into the Ponzi scheme, including prisoners. Remember all the outrage some years back when the privatization of saving for your own retirement was brought to the table instead of the guberment saving for people because S.S. was broken? That got squashed in a hurry because of the parasitic leeches of entitlement who aren't willing to sacrifice the useless, disposable made in China shit their Wall St. tell-lie-vision propaganda machine has convinced them they can't live without.

Lather, rinse, repeat out to the Oort Cloud. Yet people can't figure out they're broke because they believed the snakeoil politicians were their friend and saving for them. It doesn't get more ridiculous than that.

Perhaps revisiting the game of Monopoly will help people comprehend how it all works.
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12/23/2012 10:59 PM

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Old people have lived through the most prosperous time in our history. The fact that some don't have a savings and rely solely on social security is really their problem - why should people working 60 hours a week and barely feeding their own kids be responsible for these elderly who couldn't be bothered to save for a rainy day. They need to move in with their kids, nieces, and nephews like in the olden days - or deal with being sick and poor. I know that sounds cruel, but this is the reality of our economic times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540


No one likes to think about the young. Old people want you to pay for their retirement, never mind that people in their 20s and 30s have college debts, might want to start their own families, can barely find work as it is and are struggling to feed their own families, if they have a family.

When Social Security was set up in the 1930s, it originally exempted business owners from paying in to it. The reason? The government thought if you were smart enough to run your own business then you shouldn't have to pay in to Social Security. Stated different, the average person is too stupid to save money.

Many people will decry these cuts as barbaric, but Social Security is a terrible program to begin with. Just because politicians over promised the Baby Boomers, doesn't mean that Social Security is underfunded. That's why promises shouldn't be made unless they can be kept. But politicians don't care about the public, they only care about themselves and getting elected.

Baby Boomers will just have to admit they were lied to and bought in to the idea of a generational ponzi scheme. Either there's honest cuts to Social Security and other entitlement programs or the purchasing power of our money will further decline due to higher inflation than what already exists.

Regardless, we're all going to pay dearly for the idiotic policies voted for by the masses and implemented by the political class. Thanks to military adventurism, excessive taxes, excessive regulations, Wall Street fraud, enormous government deficits and Ben Bernanke monetizing our deficits to the tune of over $1 trillion a year, we're all fucked.

If you're old, consider moving back in with your kids. If you're young, consider moving to another country that has more freedom and opportunity.

"A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything you have...." -Thomas Jefferson
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


Both you guys are fucking MISINFORMED. Let me get this straight. A person who spent 50 years working and had a percentage of his income taken out for Social Securiy every pay day, year in, year out, HAS NO RIGHT TO THAT MONEY?

Are you shitting me? The fact that the government STOLE all of their money and left IOU's, is not their fault.

What's this shit about "well, they already lived a good life, just let them move in with their kids or accept being destitute"

Go fuck yourselves. The baby boomers are entitled to ALL the money THEY paid into their own account.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


What account are you talking about? There is no such thing as a social security account. You hired people (politicians ) to spend the money that you sent in. They did.

The evil government that you hate is you.
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:crowley1obama:
Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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According to the AARP, "A typical 80-year-old woman will lose the equivalent of three months worth of food annually" under this plan.

This is a bad deal for current retirees. And it'll hit future retirees even harder, because the proposal cuts Social Security more and more with each passing year. After 10 years, benefits would be cut by about $500 a year for the average retiree. After 20 years, benefits would be cut by about $1,000 a year. And beyond that, it just gets worse.

[link to www.aarp.org]
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Then we need to impeach Obama for taking away the benefits that the Republicans gave to the World War Two generation.

Damn Democrats with all of their cutting of benefits.
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The Democrats are always stealing benefits that the Republicans provided. We need to impeach all Democrats.
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12/24/2012 12:38 AM
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My Father worked 45 years, My mother worked 25 years.
They paid in a ton of money and both died before receiving any SS.

I don't feel like I will make it either.....so...

All of you can enjoy the money my whole family has paid in...



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You'll make it.

Here's hoping you collect well. hf
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12/24/2012 12:41 AM
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We'll be forced to sell our guns.....and children!

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